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- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:38 pm
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- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:36 pm
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- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:36 pm
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- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:33 pm
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- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:33 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
I loudly doubted it, but not for that reason lol.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:25 pmSomeone (thought it was Nutella) loudly doubted the “Eva is a mason” theory.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:31 pm
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- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:31 pm
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- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:30 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
he's talking out his ass or he misinterpreted something. I never did any such thing.iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:18 pmthen nutellas scumJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:17 pmNutella implied she was the mason in a non cheaty way.
[VOTE: nutella] aubergine
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:29 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
I did no such thing.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:29 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
no??Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:17 pmNutella implied she was the mason in a non cheaty way.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:26 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
OkJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:13 pm For the record, this convinced me I was possibly backwards on Radishes and Eva.Spoiler: show
And these posts all made Eva look bad.
*gestures to entire page 5 of her iso*
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- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:25 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
I don't think because they were townreading each other means they were 100% the masons. I put forth the possibility that Texas was the mason and was janitored
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:23 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
uhhhh ok [mention]Quin[/mention] explain why you think he knew tony flipped town?iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:11 pm what dont you follow
i read tsp w
i isoed multiple players n1
one of the people i isoed was quin
i saw that he had a pretty fiery push on TSP that was likely unaligned
so i tentativey cleared quin d2 assuming TSP was scum
i have just now seen the TSP flip
now i dont think quin looks good for it and his push on TSP mightve been on the town lowhanging fruit of d1
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:16 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:09 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
I don't really follow what you're saying here but when quin first joined us he said he thought you had TMI about stuff in the other threads and now he's specifying that it was the Tony kill/flip he thought you had TMI about. What do you have to say about that?iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:59 pmi sussed em both d1 and n1 i reread some isos and saw an interaction with quin pushing tsp in a not w/w way
i was reading tsp w at the time so i cleared quin off that but in the first layer where quin showed up he quoted me calling the not w/w thing and just said interesting and nothing else
maybe right now hes thinking that was me telegraphing a ml
or hes scum and trying to represent that thats what he thinks
idk lol
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:08 pm
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- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:03 pm
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- Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:00 pm
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- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:58 pm
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- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:57 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
Okay, I read your posts and I still don't know what your reasoning is for voting Eva other than "we should lynch within the F3"
Pls explain
Pls explain
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:54 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:27 amGod, I wouldn’t expect any Eva to come close to WC1 Eva even if she tried. She fucking went off on conspiracy theories and switched personalities mid game.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:27 pmWhy are you not scum reading Evenstar who is basically the same Evenstar from wc1?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:29 amRut roh, Raggy.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:28 pm Since Mac apparently refuses to read my earlier posts, here's the case all laid out in one place for easy reference:
1: Defends Jack for no apparent reason really early, feels the need to go digging for a game to back him up. Answers his own leading question in the process. Jack/Mac W/W?
2: No energy/fire, tone badly off. Letting two scumreads get under his skin when he's usually more resilient than that.
3: Severe lack of game content, directly stating his intent to not produce more until people start townreading him. This is not town behavior.
4: Didn't vote me until I directly fucking challenged him to. Tried to get Nanook to vote me first. No balls.
5: Just in general gives the impression he's scared to be lynched. Mac in WC1 deliberately looked scummy D1, and he was still townier than this.
Good lord I know I'm confbiasing all over the place but this is a gold mine.
Eva/Jack/Drago just openwolfed with each other all of Day 1. It's really incredible.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:53 pm
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Re: Inception [Hypnagogic Phase]
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:49 amI didn’t feel like it was.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:33 amMindmeld with Jack here, though I'm surprised he didn't find it scummy that the obvious joke was treated as an attack.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:02 amThe joke is you can’t vote me anyway cause it’s D0.
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:49 amNo it wasn't.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:33 amMindmeld with Jack here, though I'm surprised he didn't find it scummy that the obvious joke was treated as an attack.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:02 amThe joke is you can’t vote me anyway cause it’s D0.
...holy shit what happened here
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:52 pm
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Re: Inception [Hypnagogic Phase]
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:02 amLol yeah.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:57 pmOh, you're my disciple! Right, yeah, ok.~ Sorry!Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:53 pmI was the voice of “Evenstar is scum” during your WC match and stupidly made a bet with you about who your teammates would kill and who they would send to lylo.
^ Teammate interaction
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:57 amDrago’s like 14, right?
^Teammate interaction
I searched your iso for the keyword evenstar and I'm having a helluva time.
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- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:49 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
[mention]iaafr[/mention] vote eva, or elephant, or jack, or tl. I still lean to preferring eva for reasons stated here:
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:11 pmI'm voting for Eva because she was one of the "final three" in a level so it makes sense to lynch within those three, and based on radish's and sprityo's descriptions her actions in that level sounded scum-motivated, and radish had lots of other good points on her from previous phases, and the NKs have thus far been mostly players that she would be afraid of reading her correctly, and her interactions with drago don't preclude them being w/w in my opinion, and her thread content in general hs been opportunistic at best and agenda-y/controlling at worst, and I think she may have taken advantage of the janitored kill, and.... ok I'll stop there.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:04 pmSorry, I mean to say: can everyone explain why they're voting the way they are?juliets wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:03 pmColin, I'm not sure I understand - you don't have any votes.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:00 pm Can everybody just do Colin a big ol' favor and like ... one-line summarize your current vote for me. I'll love you 5ever.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:47 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
Okay.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:47 pmI’m voting Eva.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:45 pmI don't think you can convince me Epi is scum at this stage lol. Try somewhere else.
Why?
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:47 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
Uh. Find scum??Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:45 pm
You don’t like when I’m missing. You don’t like when I tell jokes. You don’t like when I can easily townread you. You don’t like when I try to bait votes.
What exactly do you want me to do here?
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:45 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
I don't think you can convince me Epi is scum at this stage lol. Try somewhere else.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:44 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
He has explained that he and Colin were the two to get kicked out of some level, and it made no sense for Colin to be the NK since he was a low poster and so the assumption was Colin was the lynch and Pawn was the NK.
However now that I've thought of that caveat I'm pondering Eva/Pawn powerwolf tinfoil again.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:43 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
I don't care if you were trying to trap Epi or whatever. I don't think that's the sole reason he voted for you. I think you're just a wolf here and your bizarre gambits don't make you look any better.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:36 pmNo, I expect you to take note of it and keep it in mind later when we don’t have obvious suspects.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:31 pmAnd because you baited their votes you expect me to worship you now rather than just assume that they are right?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:26 pmWhen I voted you, both of them jumped on me.
I don’t care if you scumread me. I’m never lynched, much less today.
I care if you think I’m so bad as a wolf that I’d put a naked vote on a townread as a save attempt.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:32 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
Don't try to throw Epi's play back in his face. That's not a good look.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:31 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
And because you baited their votes you expect me to worship you now rather than just assume that they are right?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:26 pmWhen I voted you, both of them jumped on me.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:25 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
I don't get it. What are you talking about when you say LC and Epi both jumped?
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:23 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
Dom fwiw I've been more or less convinced that Pawn was likely NKed so probably town -- caveat there is that by then the scum know NKs weren't actually dying in that level so maybe they deliberately targeted one of their own to throw us off.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:13 pm
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- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:04 pm
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- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:03 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
Or TL I guess. Whatever
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:03 pm
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- Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:02 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
Lol what.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:58 pm Nutella has no respect for my play at all and freaking Dom is telling me I need more content.![]()
Respect for your play?
When your "play" has been mostly buddying me and not really doing anything productive, and overall less content than I usually see from town jack.
What is there to respect or disrespect?
I want to see you play at all lol.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:27 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
Seriously though. If you guys would rather lynch jack than eva I'm game
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:22 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
Hey no that was good Epi, you baited Jack onto the wagon and he is now confirmed scum lol
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:22 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:21 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
yeah. Jack hopping on after Epi did is ultra sus though.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:21 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
I am more concerned about Jack.
Still don't know why Epi voted for me though.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:18 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
Epi and Jack were townreading me but have jumped on my wagon with little to no explanation. Trying to save Eva??
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:14 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
Besides, interaction analyses in isolation can be misleading. People interact in unpredictable ways sometimes, and while analyzing a dead wolf's interactions is a great tool it's not foolproof and works best when supplemented with other context and other reasons to view someone as scum.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:12 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
Look, on the one hand I agree that analyzing the one dead wolf's interactions is important, but on the other hand I do think there are other data points we can use by now. We have had numerous other flips by now, mislynches, NKs, lots of interaction between players. Yes, it's worth defending the point that a suspect is teammate-compatible with Dragomir, but it's completely reasonable to derive those suspicions from the numerous other data points we have at our disposal.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:06 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
I only know what they have told us in the thread, and from what I've learned it sounds likely to me that one of them is mafia. It's possible I'm misinterpreting something.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:02 pmNo. That's not Occam's Razor. That's the opposite of Occam's Razor. That's making up shit.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:39 pmI'm pretty tired of your pedantry regarding the use of terms like "lynch" here. You know full well how people are using that term in the context of this game and the layers. I genuinely don't understand why you would assume all three of them were civilians. If you want to invoke Occam's razor again, one of the three is scum. Please explain why you think the "F3" scenario would have happened and what would have been at stake if all three of them were town.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:22 pmIs there any evidence behind this besides "people kept saying?"nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:14 pmPeople kept saying that the mafia could gain some advantage by "lynching" a townie there. I'm sure it had some bearing on the game that relied on one of the three being mafia. Wouldn't make sense for it to have happened at all if not. Except just to fuck with our heads.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:06 pm Nobody on the final three got lynched. There was no lynch. Nobody died. Nothing game-related happened. It was inconsequential. Why are people acting like there has to be a mafia member among those three? What logical reason (not "It had to be this way or it sucked") do you have to think it was important and that mafia was represented there?
Again- let me stress this point- nobody got lynched down there. Nobody. So even if what people kept saying is true, nobody got an advantage.
Or- alternatively if you want to assume a civilian who got the most votes gave the mafia an advantage for the sake of argument- three civilians made it down there, which means the mafia had zero chance at getting the advantage.
Can't we just do this shit the old fashioned way?
Who is Dragomir's teammate and why?
Do you think it was just randomized from who was left in the previous level, and that it only occurred in order to bring everyone back here the next round? Do you think that if it had gone differently we would still be split up? I honestly have no idea and confuse myself more the longer I think about this. Help me out here.
I am not assuming all three of them are civilians. I am challenging the assumption that there is mafia among them. That's a dangerous and frankly dumb assumption.
If you do not have evidence to demonstrate the claim that one of the three is bad, then you're making shit up.
Personally, I think the entire split phases were bullshit, and I refuse to put any stock into them beyond what people said about one another. Mechanically, it means nothing to me. As far as I'm concerned, I have a job to do: Find mafia and lynch they asses.
I don't think you should ignore the mechanics of the game. Maybe it's all random, but it's part of how the game has gone down and you can't deny that it has affected player interactions and most likely role use. It's information, however opaque, that is at our disposal and I do not think you should pretend this is a normal mafia game.
- Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:04 pm
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]
.....Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:00 pmMAYBE... the winners of the lower-level lynches got more ROLE POINTS to use! That would explain.... role points.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:59 pmThe lynches in other levels have been "kicks" up to higher levels. If the F3/"Limbo" was the catalyst for everyone coming back together here, perhaps that didn't happen the same way, but I think the popular speculation is that it still mattered whether town or scum was lynched. Either for some kind of "advantage" or something relating to the layers reuniting. Idk.Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:54 pmI agree with these thoughts.nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:17 pm I would be fairly happy with an Elephant vote as well, because he instigated and perpetuated the vanity focus and I have some reason to believe he has been controlling in some other ways, potentially including pocketing juliets and taking advantage of her not only in order to make himself look good but in order to benefit the scum team in the long term.
I think TL may well be scum and would be the relatively "safe" poe shot based on GH's article; however I have townread his posts at face value, and his flip will not do much for us in solving other slots. We do need a scum flip and he may be a good bet, but I have reservations there and I think it it's probably a better choice at this point to lynch within the "F3" group and solve from there.
What do we know about the F3? What happened down there? What did the host say? Was that Limbo? Epi is confident that the lynches weren't lynches, is that a legit idea? If they weren't lynches, what were they?
I know that went beyond a response to your post.
@Evenstar @Master Radishes @sprityo was there some kind of special wording in the host post at the beginning of the F3 phase? Or was it just a standard "players currently in this location are:" announcement?![]()
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Would never have thought of that lol. I assumed there was some other mechanic for getting role points, since if this were true it would greatly disadvantage the people who stayed behind in our level. But idk. I thought maybe they were just on a "cooldown"/recharge time after some number of phases or something.