The Syndicate

*opinion on sloonei dumb phone

Rej that was interesting if a bit hard to read. I'm kind of lost as to your point of sloonei and what you mean by "there's something going on" in regards to me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:47 pm This conversation makes more sense now.

I thought you started from the position that boo was OMGUSing me and that's a perfectly acceptable thing for boo to do. So that's what I've been yelling about.

Lol wut.

boo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:37 pm I didn't vote for you because you voted for me Sloonei. I was talking about lynching you during N1 and it was even on my mind D1. You just happened to vote for me in the first ten seconds of the day. And I think you know all of that. You've been around a lot, but have also continuously played dumb, acting like you don't know what's going on. I don't buy it. Not even a little bit.

Yeah. This nails it. He's pushing the idea that you omgused him when that isn't the case, and he's been playing dumb quite a lot.

Gross,sucks, whatever same diff

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:31 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:24 pm Also his post saying that he gets mislynched a lot, compared with the fact he was mled in inception which you know as well as I, should be enough to give you some inkling of that worry. Instead you were all like "so?"
I do not understand your point. I have played with boo maybe once or twice, and not recently. I hosted Inception, which he was in for a brief period of time. He was mislynched there, but that's a singular incident. It doesn't tell me anything, really, about boo as a player (and if I recall, he was primarily mislynched because of the player he was subbing in for). Even if I held the opinion that boo is a vulnerable mislynch target in games, that would not absolve him of suspicion here.

But my original point is that him voting for me because I voted for him is wack. I just put it there on a whim to indicate that he was a person of interest. That's a thing I do in every game I play. You know this.

I'm just saying that his post about it should at least have you considering it rather than doubling down on his posts being "gross."

And I didn't view his vote of you as omgus but ok.

The post you called "gross" was extremely townie and I can't fathom a town sloonei thinking otherwise.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:19 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:14 pm boo's not stupid. That's not what I meant. My point is I put a vote on boo because I did not have a read on them and had no place else to put it. We all realize that votes are changeable, right? Watch:

I moved my second vote to tony, because his response to me last night was wacky.
Ok so now you're just backing off of boo that's cool. Cool cool cool
Yes, if voting for him is just going to make him vote for me. I put my vote on him on a whim because he was a player who was around and who I'd had a few reasons to suspect at the end of the day/night phases. But if we're interpreting that vote I placed 10 seconds into this phase as a campaign to lynch him right here and right now, then i'd like us to cut that out. Y'all are acting like I just dropped a hammer on him.

boo remains someone I'd like to look at. My vote does not need to be on him.

I never said you were so heavily pushing for boo's lynch. You're really twisting my words there. I was literally just talking about your reactions to a couple posts.

*should be "combined" or "coupled" not "compared" but whatever

Also his post saying that he gets mislynched a lot, compared with the fact he was mled in inception which you know as well as I, should be enough to give you some inkling of that worry. Instead you were all like "so?"

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:17 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:12 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:10 pm
boo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:34 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:33 pm It actually kinda freaks me out that Boo has votes. Why?
Cause getting lynched is mostly all I'm good for as a civ. It's a long and proud tradition at this point
@Sloonei

Yeah?
That's stupid.
It doesn't stir any feelings of concern or sympathy or wariness that he's an easy mislynch target?

I guess it doesn't because you're scum and you have no interest in seeing it that way.
I seriously cannot comprehend the stances you're taking from a town sloonei perspective. You wolfin bro.
Is he an easy mislynch target? I don't have much experience playing with boo. I don't remember him ever being a particularly vulnerable player.
When have you ever known me to leave my vote in one place for the duration of a day phase?

It has little to do with whether your vote stayed there. It's the way you talked about it.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:15 pm But please tell me again how pointing out your “case” doesn’t make sense is a scummy defense. Not every townie flies off the handle at the merest whiff of suspicion

I mean that is actually one of the oldest and truest scumtells in the book in my experience

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:14 pm boo's not stupid. That's not what I meant. My point is I put a vote on boo because I did not have a read on them and had no place else to put it. We all realize that votes are changeable, right? Watch:

I moved my second vote to tony, because his response to me last night was wacky.

Ok so now you're just backing off of boo that's cool. Cool cool cool

"Hey sloonei aren't you afraid that this person who gets mislynched a lot might just be town?"
"No that's stupid"

Lol

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:12 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:10 pm
boo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:34 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:33 pm It actually kinda freaks me out that Boo has votes. Why?
Cause getting lynched is mostly all I'm good for as a civ. It's a long and proud tradition at this point
@Sloonei

Yeah?
That's stupid.

It doesn't stir any feelings of concern or sympathy or wariness that he's an easy mislynch target?

I guess it doesn't because you're scum and you have no interest in seeing it that way.
I seriously cannot comprehend the stances you're taking from a town sloonei perspective. You wolfin bro.

boo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:34 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:33 pm It actually kinda freaks me out that Boo has votes. Why?
Cause getting lynched is mostly all I'm good for as a civ. It's a long and proud tradition at this point

[mention]Sloonei[/mention]

Yeah?

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:56 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:50 pm Creature yeah vote sloonei he is covered in fur
Yep thought that

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

You got two votes though. I personally would recommend speed or perhaps tony for your second but I'll leave you to some more of your own research ideally

I certainly wouldn't say nobody on the syndicate thinks about it.

Idk sig, when I'm scum I usually am thinking about NKA but on a second or third level of wifom/framing/reverse framing. See: my decision to kill Jack in Aussie game

Creature yeah vote sloonei he is covered in fur

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:48 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:39 pm
boo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:38 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:59 pm Who should I vote? Sell me
Nanook told me in our super secret "murder inactives with fire" BTSC that in mafiachat Sloonei has been pushing to kill you tomorrow night, so you should vote for Sloonei. And for your second vote... Just preferably not me. I dunno. Can I interest you in voting LC or Zemmi?
This post sucks.
I *strongly* disagree. I think it's amazing, except for the last sentence

Like damn boo is so obviously the ML here. Come on

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:39 pm
boo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:38 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:59 pm Who should I vote? Sell me
Nanook told me in our super secret "murder inactives with fire" BTSC that in mafiachat Sloonei has been pushing to kill you tomorrow night, so you should vote for Sloonei. And for your second vote... Just preferably not me. I dunno. Can I interest you in voting LC or Zemmi?
This post sucks.

I *strongly* disagree. I think it's amazing, except for the last sentence

I had been vaguely suspicious of sig I guess and I thought he was sorta compatible with both of my top suspects, but I don't think he'd defend that NKA stance this brazenly if he were mafia

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:53 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:43 pm Ew NKA

Shush you're both town

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:22 pm Why does Drago get lynched? He gets mislynched D1 or D2 pretty often. I didn’t feel he was really caught in Inception but he was correctly lynched D1.

He has shown a pretty consistent ability to pinpoint when Rej isn’t town. He saved the day in Kirby even though the mechanically correct move was going to cause a wolf win AND he was up against a really dangerous wolf. Ie he is a valuable townie.

Something to think about for future games.

Ok maybe there is something to his Rej read then. Also I agree he can be a really valuable townie, idr which game I'm thinking about but he was strong town in one or two. I didn't feel the town spark from him d1 here but should have given him a bit more of a chance to get settled.

I don't care about rej's defense post either but I also don't entirely hate it. Idk how to read him really but I think he'd be a little more flippant as scum? Maybe? Just going off my memory of cats and dogs here

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:18 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:02 am
boo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:00 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:53 pm
boo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:51 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:43 pm I feel worse about nutella today too. So much changes after 3 dead town.
Like you immediately somehow feeling better about Sloonei? You're wrong to have changed your mind on that, imo. If @Zemmi actually shows up I'll be happy cause then I can move from her to Sloonei.
You’re incapable of moving to me now? Why do you want to?
No, but with two votes, I'm going to use one as a policy vote for at least the time being.
that's a bad policy
On the topic of policy lynches, they only work to enforce policies, to promote good town play/not being able to get away with bullshit wolf moves.

Example: Lynching anyone who claims survivor.
Example: Lynching anyone who fake claims cop and doesn’t take it back until after their fake red peel gets lynched.

It doesn’t work on lynching inactives. Zemmi is not here to see you policy lynching her (idk if Zemmi is a her but the name seems somewhat feminine. Sorry if I get that wrong) so she will not take the policy lynch to heart. Additionally, inactivity due to not caring about the game (generally or because of more important stuff). If Zemmi doesn’t care enough to post, she won’t care if you lynch her.

In conclusion yeah, bad policy.

Yeah also like I think it's likely she just forgot about the game which is more likely if she's town.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:11 pm But also scum sloonei wouldnt have tried to steer us away from Dom so much but rather plant us there instead of starting a dragomir lynch imo.

That doesn't mean he can't be 3p.

Nah he's want to at least make an attempt to look like town sloonei by appearing to generate some content in the thread when there was none. He knew he'd look bad if he just let the Dom lynch go uncontested.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:12 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:01 am I'm done doing your homework for you sloonei. Have some ketchup with your paprika
You seriously like the worst foods.

I'm actually not much of a fan of either of those things

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:12 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:10 pm oh you actually just explained your townread of him lol oops

still I just remembered the ddl thing and it was real bad
DDL thing?

The read of him you made before replacing in, then you liked his case on rej and decided he was town. Like it makes me think you replaced into a scum slot, went with your spectator read for a bit but it didn't catch on and you had tmi on him so you dropped it.

oh you actually just explained your townread of him lol oops

still I just remembered the ddl thing and it was real bad

dunya why did you turn back to town on sloonei? was your suspicion of him entirely dependent on dom being bad? what about the gross progression on ddl??

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:21 pm @nutella

Talk to me about Speedchuck.

Spoiler: show
This is a joke.

He's a fantastic writer and we should let him do that instead of playing this game

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:44 pm I have no idea why boo is voting for me. I’m also unclear on the exact nature of nutella’s suspicion of me, but i’n used to that being the case.

I just feel it in my bones

But like, to put part of it into words, and I think others have said similar things:. You're asking empty questions, which is generally your MO, except they feel particularly insincere/like your heart is not really in them. You, along with speed, are saying things just to say things and asking questions you could easily find the answers to yourself so it looks to me like you're trying to fluff your post count up to emulate your town game while not fully showing the spirit of it.

Actually jack when was the last time we were town together?? We were scum in hydra, you knew I was scum in Aussie, and i was town and you were scum in inception. I actually am not sure if I should believe what I said in the previous post bc maybe you are just buddying me and I'm just always right about it like I was in inception.

I feel like I can't even do my token "oh no jack is buddying me" anymore because he really just reads me that well when he's town too. But he could be scum.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:32 pm
boo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:31 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:29 pm why is anyone voting for boo wtf
You mean like you did in inception?

At least in this case two of my voters are mafia.
Which two?

I assume the two he's voting for.

boo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:31 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:29 pm why is anyone voting for boo wtf
You mean like you did in inception?

At least in this case two of my voters are mafia.

Do you think sloonei and LC are teammates??? I don't see it tbh. I think sloonei was buddying LC. I could entertain dunya being scum though

why is anyone voting for boo wtf

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:24 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:41 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:58 am My positive interpretation is that Tony responded to my question very assertively. Scum Tony might have fallen into any of those traps he listed.

My negative interpretation is that Scum Tony is clever enough to come up with an assertive response to a question like that. He doesn’t want to appear soft, so he throws the question back in my face.

Typing it out now, I actually think I feel more strongly about the latter. Interesting.
I think town Tony is more likely to not want to appear soft I can do a self analysis if you want but it’s all WIFOM.
scumslip

lolno

I suspect Tony but you're misreading this

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:03 am
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:55 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:50 am What if I think Speed and DDL are both town?
What do those two names have to do with each other?
People were saying Speed was suspicious. DDL has votes.

I townread both.

lol ok dude. how bout sloon

boo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:00 am
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:58 am
boo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:55 am
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:54 am
boo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:45 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:39 am I think I like Tony’s responses to my questions. But Tony’s scum game in Fallout fooled me hard and I’m incapable of looking past it.
I don't get his responses. I mean, they exist, which is nice. But I'm genuinely not able to discern any actual meaning. His last few posts feel so... Turing Test. Oooh, is that it? Is he an AI and I just made him fail? That'd be cool.
Lol I've got a mindmeld with mister bishop over here
There's a 99% chance you just implied your a cow.
I never actually watched enough Fringe to get this one lol
Walter kept a pet cow in the lab that he experimented on. Iirc, at one point he used her for early mind connection research.

That actually sounds somewhat familiar (but maybe I've been incepted lol) was it in season 1 bc I think I only ever watched season 1 but even my memories of that are vague

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:58 am My positive interpretation is that Tony responded to my question very assertively. Scum Tony might have fallen into any of those traps he listed.

My negative interpretation is that Scum Tony is clever enough to come up with an assertive response to a question like that. He doesn’t want to appear soft, so he throws the question back in my face.

Typing it out now, I actually think I feel more strongly about the latter. Interesting.

yeah this too. I'm inclined to think scum tony is more likely to have thought through that whole pile of bizarrely specific analysis

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:54 am Why do we dislike that response from Tony? @nutella @boo

I don't understand what he's even talking about. And even what I can discern from it is that he is making a point of having some bizarre argument with you and then coming out with a "null to townread" on you which is vague and w/w-ish.

boo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:55 am
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:54 am
boo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:45 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:39 am I think I like Tony’s responses to my questions. But Tony’s scum game in Fallout fooled me hard and I’m incapable of looking past it.
I don't get his responses. I mean, they exist, which is nice. But I'm genuinely not able to discern any actual meaning. His last few posts feel so... Turing Test. Oooh, is that it? Is he an AI and I just made him fail? That'd be cool.
Lol I've got a mindmeld with mister bishop over here
There's a 99% chance you just implied your a cow.

I never actually watched enough Fringe to get this one lol

boo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:52 am Are you ever lost in a good way?
It is literally her addiction, so yes.

hahaha well it was twelve years ago

(totally could have also made a reference to lost the show lol)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:52 am Are you ever lost in a good way?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:50 am What if I think Speed and DDL are both town?

What do those two names have to do with each other?

boo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:45 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:39 am I think I like Tony’s responses to my questions. But Tony’s scum game in Fallout fooled me hard and I’m incapable of looking past it.
I don't get his responses. I mean, they exist, which is nice. But I'm genuinely not able to discern any actual meaning. His last few posts feel so... Turing Test. Oooh, is that it? Is he an AI and I just made him fail? That'd be cool.

Lol I've got a mindmeld with mister bishop over here

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