The Syndicate

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:44 am
Tangrowth wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:58 pm
Hi!

To the PerC people and/or anyone else who wants to answer:

1) what do you think you bring to a game when you're town?
2) what do you hope to accomplish this game?
[VOTE: Tangy] aubergine Same reasons as voting for Sloonei...it's a tell. This questionnaire feels more agenda based than Sloonei's did. It feels like you are really looking to see where everyone is at. It's like you are specifically fishing for something. There is a motive behind this.

It kind of looks like you are trying to be on good graces, but to me it feels like you are searching for reasons to keep or not keep someone in the game. It is troublesome.

hmm

going for the big fish here eh

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:41 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:40 am Like mafia mac or nook could be pushing me because I'm not literally the top poster and they think they can look good for not just admitting I'm obv town already
What of Alison?

Do you suspect this to be the case for either Mac or Nanook?

If Alison continues to stretch her poe to include me she could have agenda but I mostly feel good about her from other stuff and think she's still just sorting me out.

Idk about mac and nook, yolo probably one or both of them is wolfing

I've been calling things I agree with spicy for literal years now what is wrong with you people

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:38 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:31 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:30 am I wanna kill nutella
why
she keeps pinging me, that spicy comment in particular was weird

Okay what

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:37 am I feel like town nutella would be fiercer and less deflective here.

I'm torn about whether to vote Owner or nutella.

The people voting for me are mac, nanook, and guillo

I'm not concerned lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:35 am Maybe my spice-o-meter has been broken by prolonged exposure to seth but nothing in that exchange felt spicier than a smattering of garlic

Meh you just don't use the term same way I do lol

But I'm not afraid of mac staying on me for more than like five minutes regardless of his alignment

Like mafia mac or nook could be pushing me because I'm not literally the top poster and they think they can look good for not just admitting I'm obv town already

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:31 am @nutella what do you make of people giving you shit

Well, I could make a hat, or a brooch, or a pterodactyl

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:30 am I wanna kill nutella

Oh cool

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:25 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:23 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:20 am
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:16 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:12 am
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk
I really hate this AtE.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine
It's not AtE. It's I see 4 votes on lomo that look steady or have been there for a period of time. Generally like 4 or 5 votes on someone is like there is probably scum in that wagon. Or it could mean like a cop check or something, but generally day 1 a wagon that size and potentially unmoving is kind of meh for me.

So from that point of view, I think he might be town, but I have yet to read his posts, so I don't know yet.
"PerC players are being wagoned by unwelcoming Syndicate players" -> "This specific wagon on a PerC player is probably scum-driven because of its static nature" doesn't connect. If you don't like the LoMo wagon because there's no resistance, say so. Framing it as a PerC vs Syndicate thing reads as fishing for an appeal to emotion, and doesn't really make sense if your primary concern was the size and fluidity of the wagon. It does make sense if you have TMI on LoMo so I'm very happy to vote you.
mmmm spicy
What about 5his is spicy

That owner seemed to backtrack on why she was uneasy with the wagon. I think Alison might be onto something, it seemed like a fake elaboration

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:21 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:17 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:13 am POE: Allcrab, bad bunny, Kito, lost monkey, nutella, Owner
Do you have gripes with nutella's town reads?
I have gripes with the fact that she hasn't really dug deep into the thread or developed strong convictions/pushes on her own. A lot of her posting feels shallow and touch-and-go on pretty surface level stuff. A lot of it is fluff. It reminds me of her posting in Modern Family hydra.

I have mostly townreads rn, LM is the closest I have to a strong scumread and still just want to see them get more involved

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:20 am
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:16 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:12 am
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk
I really hate this AtE.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine
It's not AtE. It's I see 4 votes on lomo that look steady or have been there for a period of time. Generally like 4 or 5 votes on someone is like there is probably scum in that wagon. Or it could mean like a cop check or something, but generally day 1 a wagon that size and potentially unmoving is kind of meh for me.

So from that point of view, I think he might be town, but I have yet to read his posts, so I don't know yet.
"PerC players are being wagoned by unwelcoming Syndicate players" -> "This specific wagon on a PerC player is probably scum-driven because of its static nature" doesn't connect. If you don't like the LoMo wagon because there's no resistance, say so. Framing it as a PerC vs Syndicate thing reads as fishing for an appeal to emotion, and doesn't really make sense if your primary concern was the size and fluidity of the wagon. It does make sense if you have TMI on LoMo so I'm very happy to vote you.

mmmm spicy

Sonny wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:17 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:44 am
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:33 am @Alison So my comment about nutella's first post feels similar to the interesting tell. "Upgaymers" feels like a filler word. In a previous game on here I picked out Sloonei saying "spicy", which apparently people on here and MU both use. I'm trying to keep an open mind that it could very well be a community clash. But at the same time, it feels like it is something that wouldn't necessarily be said. I don't know if it could be too scummy to be scum or if the context of it is just this site players that commonly use words I'm not use to, which typing them feels of note, as it is uncommon for me to see it in game. But for me, it feels off. It's not directly aligned with a specific tell though.
wait this is the funniest thing ive ever seen
Sweet, can you interpret it for me?

Basically she thinks my meme entry was suspicious or maybe not(?) because shes boomer and doesnt meme

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:16 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:12 am
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk
I really hate this AtE.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine
It's not AtE. It's I see 4 votes on lomo that look steady or have been there for a period of time. Generally like 4 or 5 votes on someone is like there is probably scum in that wagon. Or it could mean like a cop check or something, but generally day 1 a wagon that size and potentially unmoving is kind of meh for me.

So from that point of view, I think he might be town, but I have yet to read his posts, so I don't know yet.

lalala dadv isnt real it cant hurt me

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:13 am POE: Allcrab, bad bunny, Kito, lost monkey, nutella, Owner

one of these is not like the others

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:06 am
Tangrowth wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:54 pm How does one catch Alison as scum anyway? This is not a rhetorical question.
I don't know. I think you need to explain her playstyle or look for patterns in her playstyle over time.

Huh

Why does this post exist

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:58 am Yeah avatars are probably nai

Just probably tho

My avatar is extremely townie

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:33 am @Alison So my comment about nutella's first post feels similar to the interesting tell. "Upgaymers" feels like a filler word. In a previous game on here I picked out Sloonei saying "spicy", which apparently people on here and MU both use. I'm trying to keep an open mind that it could very well be a community clash. But at the same time, it feels like it is something that wouldn't necessarily be said. I don't know if it could be too scummy to be scum or if the context of it is just this site players that commonly use words I'm not use to, which typing them feels of note, as it is uncommon for me to see it in game. But for me, it feels off. It's not directly aligned with a specific tell though.

wait this is the funniest thing ive ever seen

I was about to form a preflip associative read but then I saw sloonei was here so i preemptively bonked myself

Meh talk to me about belzy i dont have a good handle there

Anything else I need to translate

He said if one of you flips town he doesnt have particular reason to scumread the other because he was only talking about an associative read and otherwise had null reads on you

Thought that was pretty clear but you just seem to enjoy twisting things

Yeah that's not what he said lol

I.... What

You were one of my first townreads

You're just continuing to read into things that arent there and it bothers me but prob best to drop it

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:42 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:38 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:36 pm
Kito wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:10 pm relies entirely on them being teamed though, if one of them flipped town I'd have no reason to scum read the other.
Wait what? Why not? If i flipped town you'd have no reason to scum read belzy just for that? What if belzy is actually scum pushing me?

What kind of logic is this?

Gth townread rescinded.
Episode #573 of guillo doesn't actually read the posts he replies to
It looks like you are the one who cant read, now i've been scum reading you and pushing you heck! Even deathtunneling you and you didnt react but now you have the time to instigate a fight between me and Kito? If i was a day vig i would shoot you right now.

amazing post hit the showers

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:36 pm
Kito wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:10 pm relies entirely on them being teamed though, if one of them flipped town I'd have no reason to scum read the other.
Wait what? Why not? If i flipped town you'd have no reason to scum read belzy just for that? What if belzy is actually scum pushing me?

What kind of logic is this?

Gth townread rescinded.

Episode #573 of guillo doesn't actually read the posts he replies to

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:34 pm I'm a bit bugged that lost monkey appeared, responded to my grievances, beer-cheers emoji'd me when I said I'd let 'em hunt, and then... gone.

yeah

And if I take Alison to be town it's best to sheep her on Martin 100%, they are just the same alignment always

So if theyre town I'm wrong on some ppl

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:32 pm Right now if I did GTH:

Actvscenei - scum
Alison - scum
Allcrab - N/A due to lack of posts
bad bunny - scum
Belzy - town
Dana - town
Garden Gnome - town
Gavial - town
Guillotine - town
hawkataine - town
JaggedJimmyJay - town
Kito - town
Long Con - town
lost monkey - scum
MacDougall - town
Made - town
MartinGG99 - scum
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - town
nutella - town
Owner of a Lonely Heart - town
Sloonei - town
Seanzie - scum
Sonny - town
Tangrowth - the best

Well, that was interesting.

I think other than alison these pretty much all line up with where I'd land as well though some of them are very barely

My gut said alison claiming vig to get a reaction was towny but my brain says not to weigh stuff like that from alison too much because she can basically do anything as scum too that's kinda her whole deal

Sonny wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 9:19 pm Funny thing, when I woke up one of my first thoughts was I bet LoMo would be leading the votes and lol, here it is, should be fun to catch up. 2 is meh, but it tickles me that I saw that one coming.

do you have a read there?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 9:17 pm Hi has nutella returned to town telling or no?

Never stopped

......kito? wat why

I thought Owner was sort of off-topic/not into the game yet in a more similar way to Gnome (which I found townier than LM's borderline approach)

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 1:56 am
Tangrowth wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:58 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:54 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:14 pm First date icebreaker question for everyone: what’s your favorite trip you’ve ever been on?
Disney World/Disney Cruises. And you?

Follow up, why did you choose to ask this particular question?
Hi!

To the PerC people and/or anyone else who wants to answer:

1) what do you think you bring to a game when you're town?
2) what do you hope to accomplish this game?
1. My town reads.
2. Win with town.

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:09 am
Sonny wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:01 am Finding someone genuine?

Unrelated, screw nested quotes. Really.
yeah lol

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:17 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 8:11 pm Not really the only reason no I just sort of generally toneread you as wolfy/found your approach disingenuous, starting with the dana read (bc again I'm a defender of hedginess and didn't see it your way). But as you've posted more it seems like that's just your style and you are poking in various places and have solvey intentions. I could move off you but don't know where
You could just unvote? There is no compulsion that a person needs to be voted. This I could move off you but don't know where stuff I don't buy it and seems fake. Leaning scum here.

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:29 am Allison like an evolved form of alana lol.

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:45 am
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:33 am
Tangrowth wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:02 pm Hello, I'm Tangy and this is my first mafia game.
Hi Tangy. This may be one of my final mafia games I play. I have been considering retirement. Not, to rain on the date though, I just feel as though I can't mod how I want to mod anymore, which is my main appeal to the game in the recent years.
Owner you should try modding games here owner. Some of the setup i have seen here are right up your alley.

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:20 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 2:17 pm What do you want me to expand?

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:22 amIf I didn't play a game before this one, I would been the same way as act and you on dana.
It'd be super to know what made you feel this way, and what playing a game before this one did to change your perspective.
The playstyles are mainly the reason if I have to say. Certain things which you guys see as townie are not seen as townie thing over there. Now lets take act what you guys saw stilted and acting scummie from act we consider as something normal from her. This is her playstyle this is how she plays regardless of alignment. Similarly to what you felt with gnome. I felt the same way when I saw syn, mac play. Dana coming in and saying i am nervous and stuff if i didnt see others play last game even i would have felt it was scummie.

Like my impression is most of LM's posts are comments on things that don't actually have bearing on the game itself, there's a couple like the discussion of act's style that could come close to giving a read but avoid actually doing so. There's a hint of a scumread on me, and some interaction with Jay and that's it. I feel like they're hesitant to actually get into the meat of the game.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 4:16 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 4:14 pm The sloonei thing was clearly meme/bait lol
I don't think it was a pure reaction test because he later went on to describe serious seeming scumreads on all of those players.

I mean putting in that format was a meme but those can still be his actual suspects/at least names he wants talked about

Like he could do that as scum I guess but it was definitely intentional regardless

The sloonei thing was clearly meme/bait lol

Alison what do you think about lost monkey?

Alison wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 4:03 pm I think Act's posting has improved in recent times. I'm willing to give her some space and see how she uses it.

I liked her dismissive response to you asking for a read list tbh

I have strong town reads

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:30 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:18 pm Im watching eurovision ama
Why is it called Eurovision if it's a competition based on musical performance? Shouldn't it be called Euroaudio?

at LEAST half the appeal is the visuals/costumes/aesthetics/dancing

Im watching eurovision ama

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 4:07 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 4:05 am Strong town
Jay
Sonny
Guillo
Tangy

Town leans
Gnome
Alison
Martin I guess sheeping alison
Dana
Mac
Sloonei
Hawk? Liked their style
Act maybe at this point

Gav Nook LC are more tbd
Dont remember anyone else

Going to sleep for like 12 hours gl
I think if Jay is mafia then you are mafia

If not q then not p ez

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 4:06 am @nutella @Tangrowth @Sloonei @Alison what if Jay is pocketing everyone on course for a curbstomping shame bringing victory? How are we gonna deal with that? Just let the game revolve around him and hope by the time he gets caught by mech the game isn't locked as a mafia win?

Im kinda down if that's the plan actually.

I can catch wolf jay don't worry lol. Think he's just legit so far

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 4:04 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:59 am [VOTE: lost monkey] aubergine

you seem to be in neutral commentary mode, let's see some reads
You scum lean, jay town lean. Sonny might be town. Null on the rest unless something catches my eye. You might ask why i haven't voted you, need to see more, the read is not concrete.

K

Strong town
Jay
Sonny
Guillo
Tangy

Town leans
Gnome
Alison
Martin I guess sheeping alison
Dana
Mac
Sloonei
Hawk? Liked their style
Act maybe at this point

Gav Nook LC are more tbd
Dont remember anyone else

Going to sleep for like 12 hours gl

[VOTE: lost monkey] aubergine

you seem to be in neutral commentary mode, let's see some reads

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 3:17 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 8:11 pm Not really the only reason no I just sort of generally toneread you as wolfy/found your approach disingenuous, starting with the dana read (bc again I'm a defender of hedginess and didn't see it your way). But as you've posted more it seems like that's just your style and you are poking in various places and have solvey intentions. I could move off you but don't know where
You could just unvote? There is no compulsion that a person needs to be voted. This I could move off you but don't know where stuff I don't buy it and seems fake. Leaning scum here.

I don't believe in naked unvoting generally

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