The Syndicate

Bruh you EMers post so many paragraphs smh be like me and iaafr, short and snappy

Anyway I really think dizzy is town so dont vote him

i think i might maybe possibly townread dizzy more than marmot atp

had some bad vibes on marmot d1 that i dismissed later on, and have basically always felt fine with dizzys posts/reads

shrug they prob v/v lol

i haven't decided if i think there's exactly one wolf in spf/anne or they're w/w but it's at least one im p sure

[VOTE: spf] aubergine

i think spf looks pretty compatible with jay, treated him hesitantly etc and hasn't been particularly towny, and i would bet she's a/the teammate included on jay's town list. shes also approached me awkwardly today imo, she said twice like "nutella is prob just town" in an uncharacteristically hedgy way as a wolf capitulating to my townieness might be

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:40 pm actually Nutella I feel like you should be town reading me tbh

like, in the last game we played you scum read me (though incorrectly) for being too serious

I guess I could see you not thinking of that this game cause it was wrong but I'm pretty sure you're aware I'm a lot more casual as town cause of that and irt my meta like that I'm decently towny imo

so what's up with that

ive never gotten anything resembling a clear rubric for how to read you but this resonates a little i guess

@falcon45ca you were in the rym mu game right? anne was neopest there

anyway i have like 25 posts left jfc gonna go do other stuff

anne wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:34 pm Is it really true that JJJ hasn't randed scum in 5 years?

no? lol

ziggy stardust is one i can remember, you can find it in the museum subforum, there's prob others i dont remember

anne seems really awkward here like she doesn't know how to look like she has any insight or contributions to the thread lol.

the spf/mac interaction was weird, i can see that as any configuration of alignment really

i feel like spf has been pretty low key so far and i don't have a clear view on what i think of her at all

esooa... idk. i go back and forth. sloonei was p much completely nai but my gut still says wolf, and esooa has been fairly neutral in my view so far. the fact iaafr townreads her does mean something to me though, iaafr is my single beacon of sanity in this thread where everyone else is taking crazy pills and pushing the least charitable interpretations of everything i say

Hey alexa, vote anne already. You've been dancing around seriously scumreading her all game, you should commit atp.

anne wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:24 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:22 pm
anne wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:13 pm Where did I suspect the mech clears? Please tell me, Nutella. All I said is that mech clears don't exist in this game as we typically know it, a factually true statement. If you want to suspect me then go right ahead, but don't make up things I never said.
I did near mech clears, yes I know there aren't real mech clears youal are entirely missing my point. The point is we are taking them as town for now and working with a poe and i think maybe you're not happy with that poe and want to expand it.

Sure I think Mac should be in the poe, but not falcon. Illeeric I think are most likely just town from play, it did cross my mind that it could be like a jekyll and hyde situation where one of them is actually mafia but that would be pretty bastard lol. Like I think leetics playstyle alone explains why he's so hard to work with and the way he grabs onto things is towny if aggravating.
Well, I had leetic as my strongest townread, so did you read my post? That's not what I meant when I said we shouldn't mech clear people, also I was referring to the opposite which would be Mac/Falcon sharing alignments. The POE right now is just me basically, so of course anyone I suspect would be "expanding" it and if you look closely at my post, if I was mafia trying to expand the POE then i didn't do a very good job with it.

The poe is really not just you lol. Sure it's technically possible mac and falcon are w/w but the way they explained the mech I think it is exceedingly unlikely. Falcon should be taken as near clear for now imo, it's optimal to go along with it etc

anne wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:22 pm I don't think voting Falcon before Mac matters because I think they both can be scum. You're trying to create an argument where there is none other than your preference to flip Mac first for mech reasons

It matters bc if mac flips town falcon is ic and the inverse is not true

anne wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:13 pm Where did I suspect the mech clears? Please tell me, Nutella. All I said is that mech clears don't exist in this game as we typically know it, a factually true statement. If you want to suspect me then go right ahead, but don't make up things I never said.

I did near mech clears, yes I know there aren't real mech clears youal are entirely missing my point. The point is we are taking them as town for now and working with a poe and i think maybe you're not happy with that poe and want to expand it.

Sure I think Mac should be in the poe, but not falcon. Illeeric I think are most likely just town from play, it did cross my mind that it could be like a jekyll and hyde situation where one of them is actually mafia but that would be pretty bastard lol. Like I think leetics playstyle alone explains why he's so hard to work with and the way he grabs onto things is towny if aggravating.

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:48 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:45 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:43 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:38 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:37 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:33 am @nutella why are you wolf reading me
idk i don't really actively anymore, iaafr townreading you is a good sign

just, sloon did nothing and your entrance didnt help much but you're ok now maybe

ok im actually going to bed, @cassandra lemme leave you with this, iaafr townreading me should be taken like hally or ladd townreading me, p sure hes never been wrong (i promise reading me is super easy once you know what to look for)
I don't really know how you go from saying "does anyone have an ITA" irt me to posting this

Why did you wolf read me before? You said I was wolfy, not that my entrance didn't help much
well like i said you could have been pocketing me and some other ways you engaged thread didn't sit well with me

and yeah the ita comment was an impulsive moment of confidence bc sloon was such a nothing/potentially compatible with jay so your slot felt like a straight poe slot to just flip

one last hedgy take before i go to bed: i dont get the scumreads on dizzy, sure hes in the poe but i thought his posts felt ok and im a bit anti consensus there and it's exactly what i did with jay so probably im wrong and youre all right again and lolme but maybe not
You still haven't answered why you said that Esooa had "zillions of hours" to read the thread. Do that before you go to bed please.
nutella, if you continue to ignore this I'll take it as an admission that you're bad and partnered with Esooa

@leetic this is literally the stupidest fucking thing lmao. we all know when esooa subbed in, it was posted in thread several hours before the phase turned over. it is literally public information, why do you care about this lol

you're like ticking all the boxes of most annoying things people do in mafia in terms of not thinking things through with any amount of nuance

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:58 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:52 am
cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:26 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:25 am
cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:23 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 am Is it wild that I’m thinking alexa Nutella and esooa can all be town?
from my point of view, yes? i could see myself misreading esooa but i think nutella is like very fucking obvious wolf at this point with her posts

the only reason im not voting is how tired i am and i had some wine so ya i need to rr in the morning
Okie lmk how you feel in the morning. I still think ur like 95% town and idk if this is how nutella would come into today in a world where ur town. Idk I could be wrong but her paranoia doesn’t seem implausible to me. I still think the scummiest thing nutella did all game was having me as a top town because jjj treated me very similarly. Other than, ehhh I have no gripes with Nutella.
95% wtf just say you don't have me as town at that point
lmfao i missed this post earlier

iconic post
honestly staring at it and wondering if its not self aware parody and its increasing my tinfoil levels (not enough to put cassandra on the chopping block forgive me cassandra)

yeah idk shes being so weird and especially if anne flips w i think she deserves a lot of scrutiny tbh, she has consistently admitted that anne looks bad/is in wolf meta but is keeping her totally at the fringes of her poe and never really pushing her

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:51 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:50 am Idk, that JJJ yeet was solid. I think I did a good job clearing a slot that would cause us trouble at least in terms of PoE.

Get how I'll need to be pulled out of PoE eventually, but for now Nutella or Mac I wanna know.
i mean he was an ic but you couldnt have known that though

i like how youre framing the shot as a positive thing to assuage your own ego though, it's a towny pov

i might agree with this, i still really dislike the mr shot but wilgy's posts since feel ok

cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:37 am The fact that I'm in your pool when I led the fucking CFD on JJJ feels outing to me.

I need to count my posts to see where I'm at before I say more, I'm just annoyed at this game. I've also literally hardclaimed weakened doctor. Idc if you're "green checked" you can die.

lmao this is insane and really does sound like self parody idk

anne wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:16 pm Okay, first of all it's impossible for me to engage with this thread when the majority of conversation happens at like 3 AM. Second of all, imma need you to take your votes off of me because it don't make no sense. I was distracted during the previous EOD and I actually went back and reread everything I missed from that, but unfortunately you guys posted up a storm today and I won't be at all re-reading that because it's too much.

So with that I say that we need to stop clearing everyone for "claims". Roles were randed before alignments in the setup so mafia could theoretically have any roles available to them. This isn't important to my point because I don't FOS anyone who has an open claim rn idt, but something to keep in mind. Second of all, I want Nutella to explain why she pushed me when I was not around and apparently continues to do so just based on my skimming? JJJ was extremely reluctant to TR me for a reason, because he knows I am town. Now if I had to guess, JJJ probably was townreading at least one of his buddies. I'd need to go back and reread his posts though to figure out exactly who he was townreading to begin with though.

Also iaafr keeps trying to shove me into a POE with NAA. We can't be teamed so you need to get over that, already your POE is flawed. The reason me and NAA can't be teamed is that if he were my partner I would not buss him and leave my vote up on him like that as mafia ever, it just doesn't happen. I am already anti-bussing to begin with, but I would not miss EOD as wolf knowing it's possible a partner goes over and do nothing to stop. Which is already a point in my favor why I can't be mafia with JJJ, but I acknowledge his wagon formed rather quickly so it doesn't really "count".

Anyways, I'm going to actually give some reads now. I think there was at least one mafia voting me at EOD, either Wigly or Nutella, maybe even both but might be unlikely due to JJJ's vote being on me. Cassandra is probably town for... emotional reasons I don't care to get into. Also she claimed her role for no reason which is rand v for her anyways. I think iaafr's approach to me today has been somewhat opportunistic and he won't even wait to see what I have to say at all, but I liked his day 1 so idk. Also I still think ilario/leetic are town, mostly cause of ilario now because I think leetic has dropped off. Also as I'm typing this, I'm wondering if it's possible Mac and Falcon are both mafia and share the same alignment similar to ilario/leetic? Anyways have a reads list

Ilario/Leetic
LimeCoke
Cassandra
Marmot
Mac
Dizzy
Falcon
SPF
iaafr
NAA
Nutella
Wigly

Not putting Esooa on the list because I haven't read a single one of her posts or Sloonei's posts.

you weren't around for half the game sis how else am i gonna push you

i dont like this post, the defense feels flimsy and i especially dislike that you're trying to widen the poe by suspecting the near mech clears (yes i know roles aren't tied to alignment but we've reasoned out why it's far more likely those people are town). i think we need to let those narrow our poe in early game

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:38 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:37 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:33 am @nutella why are you wolf reading me
idk i don't really actively anymore, iaafr townreading you is a good sign

just, sloon did nothing and your entrance didnt help much but you're ok now maybe

ok im actually going to bed, @cassandra lemme leave you with this, iaafr townreading me should be taken like hally or ladd townreading me, p sure hes never been wrong (i promise reading me is super easy once you know what to look for)
I don't really know how you go from saying "does anyone have an ITA" irt me to posting this

Why did you wolf read me before? You said I was wolfy, not that my entrance didn't help much

well like i said you could have been pocketing me and some other ways you engaged thread didn't sit well with me

and yeah the ita comment was an impulsive moment of confidence bc sloon was such a nothing/potentially compatible with jay so your slot felt like a straight poe slot to just flip

one last hedgy take before i go to bed: i dont get the scumreads on dizzy, sure hes in the poe but i thought his posts felt ok and im a bit anti consensus there and it's exactly what i did with jay so probably im wrong and youre all right again and lolme but maybe not

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:33 am @nutella why are you wolf reading me

idk i don't really actively anymore, iaafr townreading you is a good sign

just, sloon did nothing and your entrance didnt help much but you're ok now maybe

ok im actually going to bed, @cassandra lemme leave you with this, iaafr townreading me should be taken like hally or ladd townreading me, p sure hes never been wrong (i promise reading me is super easy once you know what to look for)

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:22 am We should all stop fighting and turboyeet naa

1) he’s the “deciding” vote on a mafia (he wasn’t but let’s just pretend anyways
2) he cased someone d1
3) he’s explained his reads
4) he displayed empathy towards jjj and fellow players
5) has tried to caution the town from making bad plays and speed hammering
6) has made a poe that i can agree with

Yeah sure these look like reasons to indicate someone’s town, but not naa. The dude is completely out of his town range and is literally howling.

[VOTE: notanaxehole] aubergine

yeah probably

the stuff abt wilgy pocketed me a bit, but that's probably a 1 for 1 at worst

need to conserve posts smh (hi look at how much im spamposting good ol obvtown nutella here hi!!!) gn

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 am Is it wild that I’m thinking alexa Nutella and esooa can all be town?

nope i think it's quite possible

if theyre both v my pool is anne/wilgy/naa/spf/maybe dizzy

cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:18 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:16 am
cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:14 am i cant tell how to constantly look at vote counts on the syndiacate
The only person that voted you, was yourself this day phase.
nutella and iaafr were gearing up to

this is demonstrably incorrect if you would actually read my posts thank you

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:15 am idk if this has been showing through in my posts but all this lock scumming of nutella/esooa and the claims stuff has had me cackling pretty hard

it's pretty wtf

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:14 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:11 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:09 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:07 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:06 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:04 am
cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:02 am ok im pretty sure esooa and nutella are just outing
Are you really just gonna go back to tunneling for no reason like this?
Can I see a defense against the points people are making against you? I know you've only been here a short time but you still found time to tinfoil like four separate people, it's the least you could do
No
Yeah you're full of shit. [VOTE: Esooa] aubergine Even my previous point for you can be rescinded given nutella's interaction, and you have not given me one indication you are town. nutella's still scummier but I would not mind going after this.
Your previous points are about Sloonei, lmfao

90% of the rest are "PoE cause they subbed in "

The only existing not-that reasons are Alexa going off because I didn't agree with her, and SPF saying that I am slightly tonally off in whatever way, I forgot

Extremely cringe
You have tried to go after me for basically no reason other than "wallpost", you've tried shading Mac with no explanation, you have a hedgy and overly convoluted nutella defense, nutella has given a number of strong indications of being partnered with you, I don't even care about Sloonei at this point because the evidence against you is so much stronger.

i would like to flip esooa with you but you seem hellbent on her being tied to me, pls dont. i scumread her slot and she just started defending me possibly as a pocket

cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:12 am ok well

i know this isn't smart but it stresses me out rn to be on the chopping block

i'm a doctor except instead of saving someone, i save them for one cycle (so like, i went on spf then i switched to illartic - and if they were nightkilled they'd be poisoned instead)

anyway im super tired and a bit tipsy and it stresses me out to be on the chopping block, im a protective role

IN WHAT UNIVERSE ARE YOU ON A CHOPPING BLOCK HERE LMAO WHAT

cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:02 am ok im pretty sure esooa and nutella are just outing

this whole outing thing is so weird like cmon

youve seen me scum right? it's...not like this

cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:01 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:00 am
cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:53 am spf, do u think im sus or no
whats up with you acting like this and capslock hardclaiming lol

really reminds me of finale like i said before, ppl are like all town clearing you but you are still displaying nervousness and insecurity about it
can u give me a dissertation of how this remotely compares to finale

if you're town i'd like it to be 5000 words

idk search spec chat for the posts i pulled

you like faked town pov in certain manipulative ways and tried to shore up townreads on you im not sure how to describe it

sloonei was scummy and esooa is scummy yeah lets just blast that slot tbh whos got an ita

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:57 am fwiw i had some alexa paranoia before jay flipped maf but i mean nutella just ripped bong so its easier to suspect top town in that state (not joking)

also true

anyway alexa/marmot/lime idk what else to say, i think im reasonably obvtown by now with this whole thing and you'll see it eventually or some of you have ill intentions

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:56 am
cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:55 am no spf is my top townread so i need to know if im going crazy to think its weird random people like nutella think im scum

That's just how spf would say it too

I think nutella's sudden random scumread of you is weird af, and I don't buy it.

it is just healthy paranoia, she has had many strong scum games where unwitting townies bought into her whole schtick and she snowed them, so just be cautious with your confidence. i dont want to vote her or anything it's just some things are setting me off as similar to those games and im not letting them go without comment, so if you end up in f3 with her you can't say i didn't warn you

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:54 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:54 am idk i dont wanna bend over backwards to confbias anne scum, spf had a decent point (though i think they could be w/w lmao)
why am i even at the bottom of ur readslist?

idk you're not strongly there im just unsure and paranoid of you

cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:53 am spf, do u think im sus or no

whats up with you acting like this and capslock hardclaiming lol

really reminds me of finale like i said before, ppl are like all town clearing you but you are still displaying nervousness and insecurity about it

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:52 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:49 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:48 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:46 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:25 am Lime ngl I don't blame you for thinking my d1 was weak, I'm playing more low key than usual due to rl stuff, and on that note I will be flying home tomorrow and will be quite sparse

Still it should be clear that I'm uninformed and jumping between reads organically

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:24 am if you guys really think that's how i would approach a teammate jay when everyone else called out that he was off, im actually kinda insulted
whats up with this though
idk read nutellas iso and control f jay in the middle pages

to me it reads like somebody thinking everybody finding jay off was within the tolerance for his recent towngame meta and overcorrecting

like she said

as opposed to a scum partner trying to powerwolf jay out of contention

this exactly yes

i could explain my history with reading jay if i have time but this is the gist
But the thing is both you and Jay felt off the same way by being much hedgier than your normal selves. Why were you like that at EoD? And more importantly,

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:58 pm This is fine actually lmao
Why is this the only thing you had to say at EoD, without even changing your vote?

i dont think you have a clue what my normal self is, youve barely played with me and not recently, hedging is normal townie behavior for me and honestly your closed mindedness about hedging is one of my biggest pet peeves in mafia

@spf bc she dropped off weirdly d1 after expressing discomfort performatively, and did some stuff early that alexa said are wolftells for her

idk i dont wanna bend over backwards to confbias anne scum, spf had a decent point (though i think they could be w/w lmao)

if jay had stated trs on wilgy and naa then ofc he'd want to appear consistent with that so

he also wasnt here at eod anyway and his vote timing is important, maybe he didn't expect anne to be super at risk of going over

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:48 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:46 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:25 am Lime ngl I don't blame you for thinking my d1 was weak, I'm playing more low key than usual due to rl stuff, and on that note I will be flying home tomorrow and will be quite sparse

Still it should be clear that I'm uninformed and jumping between reads organically

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:24 am if you guys really think that's how i would approach a teammate jay when everyone else called out that he was off, im actually kinda insulted
whats up with this though
idk read nutellas iso and control f jay in the middle pages

to me it reads like somebody thinking everybody finding jay off was within the tolerance for his recent towngame meta and overcorrecting

like she said

as opposed to a scum partner trying to powerwolf jay out of contention

this exactly yes

i could explain my history with reading jay if i have time but this is the gist

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:43 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:14 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:11 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:11 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:02 am @ilario voting the deciding vote against mafia is a bad play tbh. I have no reason to move from Anne to JJJ if I'm on his team.
Bc Anne is also maf obv
Why? Literally explain why.
Wagons, movement and composition like marmot said, other ppl are townier

Idk I think axe's last minute vote on Jay is an awkward bus regardless of anne's alignment, but it's possible she has a stronger role
@nutella - can you expand on the bolded please? there was a completely immovable and stubborn wagon on anne that remained static in spite of how chaotic the EOD1 got, and this gave me the impression that anne was the designated d1 mischop. i dont think this read holds up to logical scrutiny and i actually think it's entirely possible anne is mafia, but im curious why you think that the wagon movement points to her being a wolf when i think on a surface level, it looks like the opposite

i had that thought overnight but it also depends on wilgy i think. but then marmot posted about how pure the wagon was and im not sure we can draw a form conclusion either way

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:42 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:42 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:39 am Why are illario and leetic in the poll together?
you had like a zillion hours to read the thread during night phase im not babying you

Uh.... Did she sub in over night, or right as the day turned?

it was posted several hours earlier

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:40 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:37 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:33 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:29 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:29 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:53 pm Maybe this is the game Jimmay and Sloonmeister finally landed mafia together. We can only hope.
What do you guys think about this post from Dyslexicon? It kind of came out of nowhere, especially considering they hadn't voiced suspicion of either slot up to that point, and the posts leading up to it don't elucidate it any further
smells unaligned 2 me
It kind of reeks of trying too hard, since the post came from nowhere and did not flow naturally from their or anyone else's progression. It just feels like TMI.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:30 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:21 am List of people from least suspicious to most suspicious:

ilario - Mod-confirmed town to me
Marmot - Strong claim, doubt mafia would take responsibility for settling ties rather than keeping it hidden
cassandra - Good progression, good-looking EoD
Lime Coke - Same reasons as cassandra
falcon45ca - Is only scum if Mac is also, and probably not even then
anne - Not sure why people are still suspecting her, only way she's scum is if Wilgy and Axehole are also scum otherwise Jay would have no reason to bus
MacDougall - Good-looking interactions with Jay, Mac's a good enough player that he can fake them though. Still, I think the claim is more likely town than not.
iaafr - A bit all over the place at EoD, I have mixed feelings about him jumping off Jay's wagon, but there's still a lot of reasons to townread him
staypositivefriend - Probably my least confident of my town reads, she's towny but nothing that's lock town and is a little hedgy for my liking
NotAnAxehole - Jay seemed unconcerned with the possibility of him dying and 640 seems too obvious for a w/w interaction. Still, I'm not a fan of how he voted JJJ at last minute while previously saying he wouldn't vote Jay.
DrWilgy - Like Axehole, Jay seemed unconcerned with the possibility of him dying, and I can kind of see why MR would be a good shot from a town perspective. Still, there's nothing in his ISO that's particularly towny.
Sloonei/whoever his replacement is - Largely here due to PoE and a couple of Jay interactions that look not the best,
Dyslexicon - Many posts that look scummy in hindsight, 1035 is a noticeable example, bad Jay interactions
nutella - Showed same hedginess of Jay, scummy defense of Jay, last post before EoD was particularly scummy, seriously I would be shocked if this doesn't flip wolf.
wall post wolf
Yeah, you're gonna have to try harder than that. My post restriction's twice as strict as yours, y'know
You made a couple posts claiming a red check but you had literal no conviction in it, and then you left for a bit to return with a random wall post, just feels mostly fake to me right now, and like giving thoughts rather to look productive rather than having them

Yeah, it was a gambit, and I was playing Smash with a friend so I couldn't post right away. I've been collecting my thoughts in BTSC for the better part of the last 48 hours. Why are you judging my post by these technicalities rather than what's actually in them?

Also, can someone who suspects anne tell me why they think JJJ would bus her? Also, what do you make of JJJ's hedginess the last time he was in thread, do you think he would have acted the same way if he thought that there was a considerable risk that one of his teammates would have gone down?

jay's stance on anne was quite weak/shrug, can easily see it as a nonchalant bus as her wagon took off, might need to reread it though

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:39 am Why are illario and leetic in the poll together?

you had like a zillion hours to read the thread during night phase im not babying you

cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:38 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:36 am
cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:35 am #2080 is insanely wolfy

idk what my post count is
how/why
just felt extreme W/W with nutella
literally read it
im going to bed for now tho

come back when you know how to read past level 0

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:36 am
cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:32 am honestly im 95% sure nutella is just outed wolf, but the rest of the percept is if she's legit so paranoid of me she's incapable of reading or trying to solve a game at all, so if this is the case then she should just ignore me

I'm right there with you, so I'm gonna park my vote for now and look elsewhere and let her spew her teammates keep playing in case we're wrong and she can provide us some good takes if she flips town.

wtf man

cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:35 am #2080 is insanely wolfy

idk what my post count is

#2080 is literally just spitting facts but go off i guess

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:34 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:27 am
cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:21 am i legit led the CFD on JJJ

the fact that you'd even consider me as mafia at this point is complete bs from you lmfao
maybe if i were maf it would be more front of mind that you led the cfd but since im town i am just reactively getting bad vibes from you rn and not caring whatever else you had going for you

like sure that's cool but you're def reminding me of ur scum games rn
mehhh these posts sound so bad to me, nutella going "I'm town and that's because the things I'm doing are towny right now and I recognize that," I just don't like, especially something like "if I was mafia I would have better reads but I don't care cause I'm town"

But any time I think this it's wrong and posts like this are usually just town

I think I've seen Nutella do this before as town too, I don't really remember

I know that in bread mafia I thought she was aw olf incorrectly for saying a bunch of stuff about how she's out of wolf range etc when pushed

yeah, i think alexa should know this too

cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:32 am honestly im 95% sure nutella is just outed wolf, but the rest of the percept is if she's legit so paranoid of me she's incapable of reading or trying to solve a game at all, so if this is the case then she should just ignore me

im not sold on you being wolf from this don't twist that, the jay push does look p good for you

im not voting you

but yes i am paranoid

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:31 am
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:30 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:27 am
cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:27 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:26 amanne / naa / x
that feels like the copout
well nutellas a villager and this playerlist is townsided af
Why do you townread nutella? Have you reread her posts after Jay's flip?
ya she was just contrarian and wrong on a lot of stuff day 1 it happens ive been there

yeah this, idk why this is hard for you guys to grasp but i was just wrong about jay and realized it by the time the cfd was happening

usually i catch bad vibes from him d1 and i overcorrected

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:29 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:53 pm Maybe this is the game Jimmay and Sloonmeister finally landed mafia together. We can only hope.
What do you guys think about this post from Dyslexicon? It kind of came out of nowhere, especially considering they hadn't voiced suspicion of either slot up to that point, and the posts leading up to it don't elucidate it any further

I think he might be right lol

cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:21 am i legit led the CFD on JJJ

the fact that you'd even consider me as mafia at this point is complete bs from you lmfao

maybe if i were maf it would be more front of mind that you led the cfd but since im town i am just reactively getting bad vibes from you rn and not caring whatever else you had going for you

like sure that's cool but you're def reminding me of ur scum games rn

if you guys really think that's how i would approach a teammate jay when everyone else called out that he was off, im actually kinda insulted

cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:19 am #2027 is never a real thought

smh i almost protected spf because gut thought nutella maf

it's a real thought lol

this push is baffling to me

i feel like you saw i had a wagon, hopped on, realized the wagon wasnt built to last and started doubling down to preserve it

cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:13 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:12 am
cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:10 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:10 am
cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:07 am oh nutella has the most votes
well from memory nookk called mac and JJJ outed maf and i didn't disagree and he ded now
What do you think of her?
town but probably need to reassess

can you update me on why she has votes?
I thought both her Day 1 and EOD were pretty bad, especially considering JJJ flipped mafia against the Anne wagon that was stuck forever.
yeye fair
i mean it's either a maf setup or she's maf
but i just thought about the nook kill
she's probably just mafia

what does the nook kill have to do with me?

and sure my association with jay might not be great on the surface but i prolly would've just bussed him

like as the cfd formed on him i thought, town jay would never get chopped like this so probably just a hit. but i felt like sticking to my guns on the anne vote symbolically

cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:12 am i feel like i'm the spec chat and i had someone as town but now read recent posts and it dawned on me they're maf lmfao.

this is the exact kind of fake town pov comment i sniffed you out on from spec chat in finale funnily enough

this seems bad from you, my main hesitation being that scum wouldn't see me as a realistic opportunistic push

cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:11 am vote: nutella

bad

just based on my readslist which is fine and dandy and on the fact that i already happen to have votes?

you can do better than that lexums

cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:10 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:10 am
cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:07 am oh nutella has the most votes
well from memory nookk called mac and JJJ outed maf and i didn't disagree and he ded now
What do you think of her?
town but probably need to reassess

can you update me on why she has votes?

leetic fake redded me, they sred me d1 but not sure where they really stand
marmot voted in response to that but trs me, just hasn't moved post rescind
lime actually srs me, just letting him come around

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