The Syndicate

Why am I reading hyena defend his case on a dead townie

Get in the bin

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:59 am

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:53 am

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:47 am

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:43 am By the way, I think the Vig that was in our group is within, like, [TLib, Elephant, and nutella].

Can you explain what's up with the "misread roleclaim" business? The vig might be in that group because nutella talked a LOT about holstering, but I had someone else in mind for that role.

Yeah, I think people kinda thought you were softing cop with a green check on Juliet. That's why Creature instantly backed off of you. It had no bearing on my read on you though, though it seemed like it had affected other people's read on you and Juliets. It's also why I think Nanook told me that I had to include Juliets in the towncore, too, if I included you in it.

Ugh, ok. I meant to imply something else. Apparently nobody caught on to what it actually was, but I wasn't surprised to be cleared off it.

I think you specifically figured out juliets' role and I think that's because you're the mafia role cop and have been using her to your advantage.

Also like why even say that though

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:43 am By the way, I think the Vig that was in our group is within, like, [TLib, Elephant, and nutella].

And why not juliets or long con?

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:42 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:27 am

Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:18 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:22 am

Elephant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:04 am I can't make much sense of Michelle's D0/D1 ISO, but I found these two gems.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:19 pm

vanity. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:13 pm

yeah i'd expect to have a townread on michelle at this point if she were a villa

[VOTE: michelle] aubergine

wait you voted me before reading my Iso? -_-

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:34 pm

vanity. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:31 pm i guess michelle is posting more than i know of her scum meta but uhh

no townread still

defaults to a wolfread

omgus suits you

I'd vote Radishes over Sprityo and Evenstar right now, but it's still earlay in the day.

what to do with this gem? What do you see here?

1) You scumread vanity, yet you blame me for the same thing.
2) You criticize vanity for voting without reading the ISO, yet you do the same with me.
3) You shade him for omgus'ing, but he is town; but me omgus'ing makes me a wolf
4) vanity wolfread you.
I will put it as clearly as I can: Vanity is our redirector; I'd bet he redirected your wolf kill onto Tony or Texas, and because you couldn't kill me, you have been pushing this agenda-y lynch ever since.

1. that is old d1 story. reading in d4 I saw he should be saved.
2. I've skimmed it. I have a life tbh.
3. again old d1 early stages
4. so what? village can make mistakes
This is a lie. There is never knowledge from me about Texas until Sod 5 you are spouting nonsenses no offense :/

When you get redirected, the host does not tell you about it.

Lol where did that crazy theory come from elephant? Maybe you were the one redirected eh?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:41 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:08 am

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:07 am ok why are people glomping onto trustwrothy liberal-- they sound like they're my brand tbh

I glomped on. Then Hyena glomped on. Then I think LC glomped on. And I think Jack glomped on. Then I glomped off. Then Jack glomped off. Ergo Hyena and LC are lockscum.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:11 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:10 am I thought you would find it funny, sorry

Banter with me instead. I've got jokes for days.

Why won't you banter with me? ;-;

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:43 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:41 am i dont know if i trust elephant or myself enough to want to vote radishes right now

i wanna vote the guy who scumreads all my townreads now and still doesnt seem to be engaged with this game enough to really care

[VOTE: macdougall] aubergine

We're here having a bit of fun taking the Mickey and you got and do this. Tsk tsk tsk.

YEAH IAAFR

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:44 am

Benson wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:22 pm I'm feeling:

Elephant
Boo (still not sure about this though)
Dfaraday
none
none

kinda feel like benson was killed cuz he was right on elephant and vanity

Benson was super-annoyed that we didn't lynch TLib on D2. Vanity scumread TLib too.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:46 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:45 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:44 am What scum reads am I townreading matey?

other way around

i like 112 and LLD and i think LLD in particular is hard to scumread

LLD's rage is so townsided and real and echoes some of mine that ive been experiencing this game and she literally did it parallel to me in a differnt thread so it cant be her trying to pocket me with it rofl

gross read but how do you topscum her

Because I am elite.

Good answer!

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:13 am i feel like momentum keeps building up on hyena and TL from town sources and it keeps getting diverted

I know. D: That's no fun.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:14 am oh but hyenas voting tl now

but i mean yall did just ml 3 people in a row so no reason not for people to be distancey

How many people do you think were scum in our group?

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:15 am i think i like TL more than hyena and i dont trust hyena's presence generally

so yea if nutella's town and incorrectly townread somebody early hyenas probably in there

Backstabbing bunny.

This is an assortment of useless reactions. Scummy

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:37 am I'm going to follow a lead here and state unquivocally that all animals in this game are scum.

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

I'm not caught up but I see hyena is voting on my counterwagon against elephant and I find myself agreeing with this. If elephant flips scum I will be looking at hyena next. Thinking back it would make sense.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:21 am alright i just read the elephant iso more closely and im fine voting there for now

[VOTE: elephant] aubergine

i can see the persistence on vanity being a bit unnatural and then the sheep of benson onto ty4on while mostly pushing vanity and not voting vanity on his own accord despite his apparent level of suspicion

Cool.

I've been re-convinced by your recent posts that you're pure, and I disagree with you on LC bc he just be like that... so I think this wagon is pure so far. Feeling good about it.

And even if she's wrong and I'm wrong about elephant, I think her tunneling is from a town mindset. She kept trying to get people to talk about elephant when he wasn't really a candidate yet and kept getting ignored. That's not scum trying to push a mislynch. That's town pushing what they think is productive.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:05 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:55 am

Elephant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:39 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:30 am

Elephant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:22 am

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:13 am

Elephant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:59 am

It looks like you are scumreading me because
a) I pushed vanity for three days,
b) I feel very frustrated that vanity did not turn out to be the scum lynch we needed,
c) I survived the night,
d) you had more information and a better read on Quin than I do.
Is that correct?

no
1. you succeded to finally push your narrative on Vanity
2. you are not frustrated at all. wanna know how a frustrated townie looks like? I may give you a hint but may be ban worthy.
3. You complained about that being last post, mafia usually says such things.
4. i played with Quin previously. he is not the talkative type. More often mafia overexplains like you do.


What do you think about Quin? Pawn? Eve? LLD? TL? Nutella? Don? Jackofhearts?

1. I did not have a static "narrative" on vanity. Each day added new grounds to their scum read.
2. ...
3. The night kills were on town core players until then.
4. Does Quin overexplain as mafia? Does mendel overexplain as town?

1. i don't need to know if your narrative is static or dynamic tbh, i spotted it as scum narrative.
2. you are extremely relaxed and content of the gamestate
3. do you feel yourself as town core? if so, why didn't share oppinions about the players I asked at first glance?
4. Quin? i have town meta, i posted my reason to TR him. Mendel? he's not in the game. What do you want to say?

1. Why is my narrative a scum narrative for you?
2. No, I am not.
3. I felt fairly powerless for most of the game except day 4. I wanted to address your issues with me. I haven't looked at half of the players you asked me about for days, you saw my post on quin,my stance on nutella, and my stance on TL if you ISOd me. Why don't you ask me questions there if that is not enough for you?
4. You did not even ISO me for your case.

1. because is efficient
2. no need to convince me here.
3. i feel in you a powerful player. You cannot be powerless in a madness game except you are hiding TMI and want to show kindness instead of aggresivity as fake feeling. This powerless thingy you're talking about is for me a proof you are content. Town is never powerless. He has logic, votes and still numbers.
4. I will not make that on phone, i quoted the things are essential not your powerwolfing huge Iso

elephant saying he feels powerless resonates with me. it is a feeing that i think is much more obvious from a town perspective in this game.

if you're town, you're in a bad tunnel imo. you could just be scum hiding behind this tunnel though, and im starting to learn more this way.

I hated reading Michelle's exchange with Elephant because they were talking past each other so much and so I think she's in a "bad tunnel" in that her reasons are weak, but I think she may be right nonetheless that elephant is scum. I really don't think michelle is ever scum here.

Actually yeah definitely above juliets. The whole thing with elephant was so sketchy and weird that I don't even know if I should trust her either. I think I should but I just don't know anymore.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:48 am if michelle is scum, which im also currently considering

i think her read on quin feels more like spew than partner defense

but if shes not and shes genuine then it means nothing for my reads

Michelle is never scum here I'm p sure.

That is probably the hill I would die on the most right now, perhaps even above juliets.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:49 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:39 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:38 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:34 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:32 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:26 am desired wagons: hyena, longcon, quin

desired vetoes: elephant, evenstar

what are you on with desiring wagoning Quin? He is my TR
and what's that veto on Elephant? is he cleared in your eyes? Also Eve don't look like shes wolfing.

elephant is not cleared id just rather flip longcon first

im not totally confident on hyena or quin

has quin done any solving you like especially? or has he towntold in other ways?

You have a natural tendency to tinfoil things. I have a TR on Quin and one of the reasons is lack of agenda. Elephant has an agenda and it's visible.

spell it out for me

He tunneled Vanity for days and succeded to lynch him.
We argued 24 hours ago and he played dumb at my questions, tried to shade me and refused to talk about his reads.
He accepted to told me about Nutella, said she is cleared with 2 other players, and after said Nutella is suspicious, after posting that Nutella may be a wolf even if he in his head has her in town core. The exactly wolf tactic to mess up the reads on someone and to express further shades.

To be totally fair here, you are still misinterpreting something he said that you didn't understand the wording of. He did NOT say that I and those other two were "clear" in that he was "townclearing" us. He said that he felt his STANCES on us were clear, i.e. he had made it clear how he felt about us at the time (which I disagreed with since he flip-flopped on me and I was unsure what the stance was at the time). But your point still somewhat fits on his read of me because on D4 he nearly did actually townclear me based on some theory he had and then today seemed to walk that back.

Just being pedantic here, I think you don't have the most fair reasons to reach the conclusion he's bad but I agree with you on the conclusion, lol.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:55 am elephant's push on vanity feel's like a town's push on town more than a scum's push on town. that's my current opinion, if youd like to quote any posts of his to try and change it, you are welcome.

I totally get this take. The vanity case in isolation is not enough to call him scum. I just have additional reasons to think he had an agenda. His bizarre interaction with juliets on D1 about Tony for example, plus some later interactions with juliets.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:22 am for this forum users, is normal when i reply to a post who contains a tag that that tag to pop up blue and covering your text?
And if I press enter that tag is self inserring in my message without shame.

It's very annoying and looks like a bug

Yeah it's annoying but if you delete the @ symbol in the quote it'll stop

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:16 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:23 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:15 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:07 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:39 pm SO that leaves me to these questions

Why are nutella and juliets town together?
What is the case on 112?
What is up with Michelle and Elephant?
Who am I wrong about from TS?

- I just have reason to believe juliets is town. Nothing to do with me specifically. But supposedly if she is to be trusted, Elephant is town as well. I am still not 100% sold on that but taking her word for it for now.
- idk there are a few things, currently (from stuff she said last night mostly) I think she's just town
- eh they misread each other a bunch
- Jack is scum (plus I'm not 100% sold on Mac and LC but leaning town)

nutella, I'm reconsidering all my reads or things I thought I knew so if you feel strongly about Elephant don't let me stop you.

Mmmmm okay thank you. Eva is still my priority for today but I will keep that in mind. Elephant remains on my list. @Michelle I think you may be right even if I didn't think your reasons were strong. I have other thoughts about scum!Elephant (read my d3-4, or maybe just d4 idr, if you are curious).

I see you see him scum, why not voting him?

I am....?

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:41 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:55 pm this games too big man can we skip to d5

going through my own iso looking for where i made that creature allusion and lmfao this post oh my god

LOL

Ok thanks sprit

[mention]sprityo[/mention] [mention]Evenstar[/mention] [mention]Master Radishes[/mention] I tagged you guys with a question about the f3 phase and I don't think any of you have answered yet

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:30 am

Elephant wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:04 am I can't make much sense of Michelle's D0/D1 ISO, but I found these two gems.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:19 pm

vanity. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:13 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:12 pm kill Michelle she's not Towny

yeah i'd expect to have a townread on michelle at this point if she were a villa

[VOTE: michelle] aubergine

wait you voted me before reading my Iso? -_-

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:34 pm

vanity. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:31 pm i guess michelle is posting more than i know of her scum meta but uhh

no townread still

defaults to a wolfread

omgus suits you

I'd vote Radishes over Sprityo and Evenstar right now, but it's still earlay in the day.

dove into elephant iso

ended up liking this

i personally sus radishes more than evenstar right now as well and 112 also expressed minor sus of radishes at points and backed off

i think radishes had a weak vote d1 and i think he had too many good/confident/unrealistic townreads

im actually gonna vote there for now

[VOTE: master radishes] aubergine

yknow I had a galaxy take on radish for part of d1 and wanted to lynch him but I stopped feeling it and haven't felt it since, I have felt like he's just town...
but like probably someone I think is just town isn't

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:30 am Shiner Holiday Cheer is an acceptable excuse to start getting ready for Christmas early

Oh man I just looked it up and it sounds *very* up my alley

Guys this is actually the funniest shit ever

A secret gay stonemason neighborhood

So everyone saying dickbutt is in a secret neighborhood right

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:18 am like i would say that evenstar and i can't be w/w because she was my day 1 suspect but i can't because my scum meta is literally just bussing the fuck out of all my teammates and hoping for the best

maybe the fact that we had the eva train dominant for a while and are now being spread out is a sign we should just stay on her? idk

5 people with 2 votes this is fun

[VOTE: elephant] aubergine

can we do dis

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:16 am Okay the spirits have given me the name of the scum.

Colin
Elephant
Radishes
Pawn
Trustworthy Liberal

and Evenstar is an anti town independent.

Now I'm gonna sit here on my porch sippin on my beer.

This is so spicy I'm having acid reflux


...actually though I am intrigued

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:14 am FUCKING BEHOLD AS I SOUL READ THE SCUM RIGHT NOW

Give me a second to charge my sigil (jerk off).

oh this is the good shit

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:12 am

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:09 am the real mason was the friends we made along the way

What is the origin of the naming of the role mason? Is it because stonemasons live in little cottages together and cook bread for each other and then have hardcore gaysex together?

presumably freemasons==secret society?

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:11 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:10 am I thought you would find it funny, sorry

I mostly read it as "all your claims are inherently unbelievable because you did that one play once"

which, I mean, fair, but that's a damn annoying meta to be trueclaiming with

well specifically you having a teammate claim something lol

idk maybe it doesn't make sense

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:10 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:07 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:03 am Hey, I have votes! Nice, I feel like a real man now.

why say this

It was brought up earlier how few votes I have received this game. Also, (now I don't know if I'm using this correctly).... dickbutt?

ok you pass

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:08 am

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:07 am ok why are people glomping onto trustwrothy liberal-- they sound like they're my brand tbh

I glomped on. Then Hyena glomped on. Then I think LC glomped on. And I think Jack glomped on. Then I glomped off. Then Jack glomped off. Ergo Hyena and LC are lockscum.

hmm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:07 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:05 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:01 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:54 pm @MacDougall

top 3 bottom 3?

Michelle would be at the top. Nutella and you would probably be the next two.

Bottom 3 atm would be ... LC, 112 and ... Lexi.

U?

i thought you decided 112 was town after all?

Meh. What I feel under the throes of ATE and what I feel after having time to process differs I guess. Where are your reads so I can take a random stab at them for inconsistency?

Idk I made a rainbow list a bit ago but I probably don't even agree with myself from three hours ago anymore

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:06 am

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:03 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:01 am

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:55 pm I think Quin is trying to imply they're spiny's mason?

Yeah, that's super not a good look.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

Where did you get that?

They're having a weird sideways conversation with Nutella that they think I'm not noticing.

are you jealous?

lol do u want a vote fam

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:05 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:04 am Galaxy brain read.

Evenstar is town because Pawn, Lexi, 112 and me are all still alive.

Regular brain read: You are all still alive because you spent all game in a world where death doesn't kill you.

I thought you would find it funny, sorry

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:05 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:04 am

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:01 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:59 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:55 pm I think Quin is trying to imply they're spiny's mason?

Yeah, that's super not a good look.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

b u l l s h i t y o u a r e t h e v o y e u r

You're the second person to quote that at me this game. It wasn't funny the first time.

but it is now?

Please stop deliberately trying to annoy me.

well I think you actually might be w/w with quin and that was my way of articulating that

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:03 am Hey, I have votes! Nice, I feel like a real man now.

why say this

I did think quin was hinting that at one point to be fair, but I felt like I was missing something else he was trying to say to me so idk

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:03 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:01 am

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:55 pm I think Quin is trying to imply they're spiny's mason?

Yeah, that's super not a good look.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

Where did you get that?

They're having a weird sideways conversation with Nutella that they think I'm not noticing.

lmao what

this is definitely x cult nonsense

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:01 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:54 pm @MacDougall

top 3 bottom 3?

Michelle would be at the top. Nutella and you would probably be the next two.

Bottom 3 atm would be ... LC, 112 and ... Lexi.

U?

i thought you decided 112 was town after all?

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:01 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:59 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:55 pm I think Quin is trying to imply they're spiny's mason?

Yeah, that's super not a good look.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

b u l l s h i t y o u a r e t h e v o y e u r

You're the second person to quote that at me this game. It wasn't funny the first time.

but it is now?

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:55 pm I think Quin is trying to imply they're spiny's mason?

Yeah, that's super not a good look.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

b u l l s h i t y o u a r e t h e v o y e u r

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:41 pm has anyone done NK analysis on the n2 and n3 kills

nanook makes sense as an eva and/or pawn kill

idk about benson, he was just supertown, probably chosen by someone in my level with him, maybe elephant

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:39 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:47 pm ok finally worked up the will to log in

who should I sheep

first one to mention me with a good reason gets my vote

@iaafr

vote nutella, she's MLed 3 town

because that's a great reason

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:38 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:38 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:36 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:35 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:32 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:27 pm Can iaafr be scum here?

*deep breath*
This is a can of worms that I do not know if you all are ready to handle.

If you're wondering why I seem jaded-- maybe this would be it.

what is this?

You haven't spent the better part of the game trying to make any sense of this. I have.

of what? quin vs iaafr? can you help me out a lil

nah.
just iaafr.

so you think he's scum? is that what you're saying? can you elaborate?

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:38 pm hey nutella we're on the same page right now though right

i like having secret conversations

uhh I don't think I'm on any page rn I'm in a sea of conflicting ideas