The Syndicate

.....did you read the robyn quote in there because lol


the reality distortion is too strong

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:48 pm can you explain to me how your reasoning was meaningfully different to an extent that you thought long con's push on robyn was predatory?

iirc I didn't like robyn's reaction to being pushed and it looked like they had a guilty conscience/they refused to engage with porscha's read in any depth and I thought that deflection was more likely to come from a wolf who knew the push was right and didn't want to get caught in a back and forth. LC seemed to just hop on the vote at a convenient time and his reaction that robyn was being "manipulative" felt made up to me because that wasn't actually a meaningful description of the interaction it was just a buzzword to justify a drive by vote.

Yes I didn't explain all this nuance at the time because my brain just processed both as wolfy and likely a difference check so I voted on the one I felt slightly stronger about at the time

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:48 pm @nutella can I have a full readlist from you? Feel like the day started and you're everywhere.

ok

town:
wilgy
falcon

town but doubting again as of a few minutes ago:
pyxxy

null but eventual entry looks ok:
tsp

handwavey cape read (as usual i townlean him but with a healthy dose of paranoia):
cape

wolf lean:
lorab
sheep

wolf:
spf

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:40 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:36 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:34 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:29 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:23 pm looks like long con is dying though so gl gl

Ew.

I don't know if I like this post. This is going out of the way to enable wifom with a voice too sure of a result.

"Is it tmi, idk"
"Is it anti tmi, idk"

Feels like a breadcrumb a wolf would drop for use later.

Come back to this post later if needed.

with the context of SPF's immediate vote on nutella, I am skeptical of this just because it kind of feels... shruggy, like SPF just isn't caring about that

wait what explain

IDK, it's like, SPF in that comment there seems resigned to Long Con dying, which contradicts her play throughout this game on tunneling you and trying to leverage a vote onto you which she has been doing for a lot of the game. Like I do not think she expressed that she thought that one of the songs was yours before this moment

hmm true it is weird she didn't try to push me more by the deadline, she could have been sitting back to get the extra misyeet in

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:38 pm generally i get the impression that nutella's strategy this game has been to piggyback off of the incorrect reads of other players

she piggybacked off of porscha and long con's incorrect push on robyn on d1 and used it to coast and tunnel them

she piggybacked off of the thread's incorrect scumread on long con on d2 as an excuse to tunnel him

now she's trying to piggyback off of pyxyy's read on me as an excuse to tunnel me, which would logically mean that pyxyy is town but im not as sure about that yet

i was actually the first person in the thread to scumread long con, moreso as a page one semi-joke but when it became serious it was very much an original read

i think pyxxy has the game solved and then he turns on me i don't know what to make of that??

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:38 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:24 pm spf is doing her best to twist a narrative into existence here, don't fall for it, read my iso and come to your own conclusions

okay

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

wtf

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:37 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:35 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:29 pm im gonna be honest though, the real argument for you being mafia is just the fact that your vibes are off lol

nutella is a great player but she is caught almost immediately whenever she's mafia. this is because she struggles to project towniness and solving in the same way that she does as town, and her general posts are stilted and uncomfortable

nutella is a popular n1 kill in most town games that she plays bcuz she's such a fierce solver and so good at projecting towniness

and here we are on d3 and she has done nothing but tunnel two villagers to death with shakey reasoning while making no attempt to meaningfully re-assess or shake up her wolrdview, while not towntelling

she's just outed mafia idk what to say lol

yeah there is no way you actually believe this lol

my perspectives have been clear throughout the thread

what isn't true about what SPF is saying here? Because I have experience literally killing you night 1

that I'm somehow not in my usual town meta because I am, it's not unusual for me to post snappy and shallow-looking takes because I have a hard time articulating them

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:37 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:35 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:29 pm im gonna be honest though, the real argument for you being mafia is just the fact that your vibes are off lol

nutella is a great player but she is caught almost immediately whenever she's mafia. this is because she struggles to project towniness and solving in the same way that she does as town, and her general posts are stilted and uncomfortable

nutella is a popular n1 kill in most town games that she plays bcuz she's such a fierce solver and so good at projecting towniness

and here we are on d3 and she has done nothing but tunnel two villagers to death with shakey reasoning while making no attempt to meaningfully re-assess or shake up her wolrdview, while not towntelling

she's just outed mafia idk what to say lol

yeah there is no way you actually believe this lol

my perspectives have been clear throughout the thread

oh they've been clear, but that's part of the problem lol

you thought robyn was mafia because "of an interaction"

you thought long con was mafia because "he pushed robyn" even though you had the same suspicions about robyn at the same time as him

your reads are transparently lacking in depth of thought

i've already responded to this point. maybe you missed it because you had left the thread but the nuance in the difference between my robyn vote and LC's was relevant in my biased pov, need I pull the "hypocrisy is a staple of town play" quote bc none of this is actually scummy it's just messy which real reactive reads can often be

Sheep wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:36 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:34 pm like with LC town spf just has to be wolf fmpov

I mean that's not very convincing tbh

well you're her most likely partner so I'm probably not going to convince you but I was seeing a dichotomy of LC/pyxxy world vs pyxxy being right and spf spinning me as an "obvious wolf" fits her wolf meta

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:35 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:32 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:27 pm the ways in which robyn was towntelling later in that dayphase

which were what exactly

i don't care to get into a back and forth about why robyn was towny because it would be really easy for you to refute it and say "no they werent towny!" regardless of what i say

i simply think that you would have put more thought and consideration into reading them if u were town, instead of tunneling them blindly based on flimsy phoned in reasoning

see this is a prime example of spf just distorting reality to fit her push of me bc like robyn simply never projected town lmao and pretending they did only serves the agenda of pushing me

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:34 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:29 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:23 pm looks like long con is dying though so gl gl

Ew.

I don't know if I like this post. This is going out of the way to enable wifom with a voice too sure of a result.

"Is it tmi, idk"
"Is it anti tmi, idk"

Feels like a breadcrumb a wolf would drop for use later.

Come back to this post later if needed.

with the context of SPF's immediate vote on nutella, I am skeptical of this just because it kind of feels... shruggy, like SPF just isn't caring about that

wait what explain

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:29 pm im gonna be honest though, the real argument for you being mafia is just the fact that your vibes are off lol

nutella is a great player but she is caught almost immediately whenever she's mafia. this is because she struggles to project towniness and solving in the same way that she does as town, and her general posts are stilted and uncomfortable

nutella is a popular n1 kill in most town games that she plays bcuz she's such a fierce solver and so good at projecting towniness

and here we are on d3 and she has done nothing but tunnel two villagers to death with shakey reasoning while making no attempt to meaningfully re-assess or shake up her wolrdview, while not towntelling

she's just outed mafia idk what to say lol

yeah there is no way you actually believe this lol

my perspectives have been clear throughout the thread

like with LC town spf just has to be wolf fmpov

i am mostly assuming it will be me vs spf yeah given pyxxy's push

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:28 pm Oh sweet nutella didn't gain immunity

get rekt

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

alr nutella you can tell the whole class ur lil wolf prize don't be scared. To be real I don't see why t!nutella immediately assumes they HAVE to get into a thunderdome with SPF

have an extra private vote

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:27 pm and now coming into d3 you are confidently tunneling me because i ....called you mafia for not being towny enough

it's what makes the game make the most sense atp

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:27 pm the ways in which robyn was towntelling later in that dayphase

which were what exactly

spf is doing her best to twist a narrative into existence here, don't fall for it, read my iso and come to your own conclusions

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:21 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:36 pm I did really agree with spf that nutella has the capacity to be insanely obvious town very quickly and it's worrisome if she isnt. so individually I found LC and nutella both wolfy and I do heed pyxxy's argument of "but why would 2 wolf stack a town" but like . idk look at those wagons. look at them all day. so little movement and no guarantee robyn doesnt die, right? if it's t/t wagons then like idk. there were people on 1 man wagons we'd need to lewk at that again. cuz like yeah... idk I cant think of a GOOD reason for 2 wolves to be the only 2 votes on there and if I have to pick I'd say LC is the wolf and nutella isnt but idk

granted she landed on the wrong side of you/LC but she certainly did see the same stuff that i was seeing

pretty weak

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:19 pm it's fine to be wrong but your reads on both LC and robyn were phoned in to an extent that they are not something i could ever see u believing as town

and like im just not sure what you mean by this. i often have trouble explaining my reads well in words but i did believe them most of the time except when i doubted them which well yknow

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:19 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:18 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:15 pm okay well you can have whatever read on me you want

the fact of the matter is that nutella has not towntold at a single point in this entire game when she is genuinely one of the most obvious villagers in every single town game that she plays

she is extremely good at projecting town and she has barely lifted a finger this game and pushed two village eliminations back to back

if you cant figure out my alignment then you should figure out hers - she's an obvious wolf and any villager who doesnt see it today has blinders on

it's like you're trying to rewrite reality here bc I've been towntelling all over the place, you should know that getting pushes wrong just happens to me a lot as town bc I don't have tmi, you can see where I've tried to reevaluate in live reactions to stuff and I do regret that eod ended up so stagnant on LC instead of getting more pressure on you but ah well

you're the one who told me that you're not towntelling as much as usual because of how slow paced the game is lol

we both know that u dont believe that youve been towntelling all over the place

it's fine to be wrong but your reads on both LC and robyn were phoned in to an extent that they are not something i could ever see u believing as town

it's less than usual sure but since we had that conversation I towntold more when you weren't in thread and it really should be enough for you to see it

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:16 pm it is not surprising that porscha died when she was one of the people who agreed with me that nutella was wolfing btw

ideally i would like to spend the rest of today to figure out who fits as a team with nutella and solve outside of her, but i will just tunnel her and case her aggressively as needed

when did porscha scumread me i don't remember this?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:15 pm okay well you can have whatever read on me you want

the fact of the matter is that nutella has not towntold at a single point in this entire game when she is genuinely one of the most obvious villagers in every single town game that she plays

she is extremely good at projecting town and she has barely lifted a finger this game and pushed two village eliminations back to back

if you cant figure out my alignment then you should figure out hers - she's an obvious wolf and any villager who doesnt see it today has blinders on

it's like you're trying to rewrite reality here bc I've been towntelling all over the place, you should know that getting pushes wrong just happens to me a lot as town bc I don't have tmi, you can see where I've tried to reevaluate in live reactions to stuff and I do regret that eod ended up so stagnant on LC instead of getting more pressure on you but ah well

I've concluded my reads suck and pyxxy was right about everything

@Long Con it's so funny I also really like Cloud Cult!!! and that song in particular is pretty readable as nutellacore by people who know my music taste with the strings-forward instrumental explosion and everything

there's just also definitely ways people like spf would have known holy holy was me though

i just laughed when i saw you sent cloud cult though good stuff sorry you were town after all

[VOTE: spf] aubergine


I guess we are doming now gl gl

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

At this point I'm just looking forward to people hearing my song I guess

Where has cape been anyway

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:24 pm idk cape my read on you is like one of those tiktoks where every time the square hits the edge of the screen it doubles and eventually theres a zillion squares of different colors bouncing around in every direction

This masterpiece

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:26 pm God, it's like my brain's that tree,
and spf are those little cookie elves.

Lmao this reminds me of the goofy read I made on Cape in severance lemme find it

or it's just LC and pyxxy together and that's the devil in my ear

would wolf spf push me like this

maybe in the circumstances of this game she'd try it

bleh i don't know sometimes LC is just inscrutable as town

i can kinda see pyxxy's world of spf/sheep/lorab hmmmm

almost tempted to bite on pyxxy's offer for that post but your posts after have sounded a bit more real

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:13 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:02 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:50 pm still think wilgy is okay though sometimes he tryhards more as mafia. very back pocket break glass in emergency tier though

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:49 pm sheep's posts are ~weird but in a way that seems more like he's on his own?

like these reads simply do not feel real to me, gives off the vibe of a wolf phoning in content more than a villager who is actively playing from an uninformed perspective

i acknowledge that i am p tunneled however

gm i see that you are pushing me for pretty unfounded reasoning

I don't thiiink both LC and you are wolfing me here so if you're town and misreading me try again, my content is pretty obviously how I always toss out reads as town it's just such a low content thread with less to play off of. Real time interaction should help you find me

yeah i understand that there hasn't been much content in this game and maybe that would make it harder for you to be obvious town, but your read on long con doesn't make any sense to me

he just seems like an obvious wolf atp nothing he says reflects reality in a remotely helpful way

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:56 am [VOTE: robyn] aubergine for that interaction with porscha lol

lc wolf if theyre not though maybe

you voted robyn and didn't seem to doubt yourself on that vote at all even though they were towntelling and one of the most active solvers in the thread

idk how you can think this? how were they an active solver at all lmao they posted like twice in the first half of the day and didn't contribute until they were on the chopping block

and then you randomly threw long con and robyn in a dichtomy together - saying that long con might be mafia if robyn wasn't

and your reasoning for thinking that robyn/long con needed to contain one mafia is because long con's vote on robyn "could be predatory"

the basis for this seems plainly obvious idk what to tell you

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:56 am [VOTE: robyn] aubergine for that interaction with porscha lol

lc wolf if theyre not though maybe

but you literally voted robyn at the exact same time that long con did and seemingly based on the exact same interaction. so, how does it make sense to say that his vote was "predatory" when it was a vote that you actively agreed with and followed at the time?

because of the framing? obviously i'm biased toward my own reasoning and thought his looked fake

your worldview tracks as so incoherent to me that i really struggle to see a world where you can be town lol it seems like you are just phoning your reads in because you know you can get away with it

im open to realtiming with you in case im wrong, altho i proly wont be able to do that today

i am starting to feel the same about you the picture you're painting in this post is completely out of touch and i get that you weren't here so were quite literally out of touch with the thread temperature on d1 but like you're missing a lot of nuance here

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:29 pm Actually, the read was in the next post, and I knew it... I just forgot by the time I was done writing about the sketchy post.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:12 pm Abi conclusion - town lean. Let them cook and let's see where they get to.

Still don't like it. He questions her drive-by vote on pyxxy, something people normally find to be suspicious, but ignores it to reach the townlean. I don't think Wilgy's reads here are genuine, because the logic he presents to reach them doesn't hold up.

something something plinko boards and waterfalls

and yeah it does look like we'll be up against each other today so I do have to hope you're a hit but nothing you're doing is really causing any doubt

man I'm trying to see a world where you really believe what you're saying but this just looks soooooo forced

nothing is happening

@TonyStarkPrime get in here the fools are having pointless verbal disputes

what is going on here lol

thats both a mmmm food and a mmmm interesting

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 3:25 am I'm looking at spf sheep +1, maybe LoRab?

[VOTE: spf] aubergine

come tell me why you're not just showing up to push LC nutella TvT wagons today, the appetizer being easy townreads on falcon and cape (the latter being a pocket), and dessert being hiding your teammate sheep in your conveniently large POE banana split sundae

mmmm

im confbiased but LC has not said anything that makes sense for a while

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:38 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:29 pm @Long Con -

who do u think is maf with nut?

Wilgy would be my best guess. I get a vibe from him like he's trying very hard to seem towny, but isn't genuine.

this sounds made up

oh wow the last post was like 10 hours ago and no one is here lmao sup

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:50 pm still think wilgy is okay though sometimes he tryhards more as mafia. very back pocket break glass in emergency tier though

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:49 pm sheep's posts are ~weird but in a way that seems more like he's on his own?

like these reads simply do not feel real to me, gives off the vibe of a wolf phoning in content more than a villager who is actively playing from an uninformed perspective

i acknowledge that i am p tunneled however

gm i see that you are pushing me for pretty unfounded reasoning

I don't thiiink both LC and you are wolfing me here so if you're town and misreading me try again, my content is pretty obviously how I always toss out reads as town it's just such a low content thread with less to play off of. Real time interaction should help you find me