The Syndicate

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:06 pm There was consensus amongst everyone that SPF was the shot there but there was some concern that nutella would go rogue given her suspicions on nanook yesterday, thankfully that didn't happen!

Nah once spf was sent to grasslands again the night before I was feeling it was her until the end

DAB DAB DAB

no, no it's not

you are mafia

[mention]staypositivefriend[/mention] please please please come back and vote nanook

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:03 pm nor do I believe I should have to beyond “I killed scum what’s wrong with you lol,”

ok philosophers tho

like thats not convincing to me sorry dude (^:

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:51 pm You literally did the exact same thing (“vote SPF to avoid nonsense”) that you’re questioning me about in the same post

no you specifically left it between me and spf which we fucking talked about dude

if I get nked f3 is harder than it needs to be

Partially the votes, partially some tonal things and I think he'd look cleaner/be better positioned as a deepwolf but the counterargument to that is the votes and how much he's been leaning on them/insisting that his LC vote is clearing soooo

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:08 am Not sure if I’ll be back for EOD or not, putting a vote on thunal

And one on tutu, to make sure mafia have to put her in grasslands if they want her there.

Also like. The fuck is this. Are you still hoping for a chance of spf going so you can nk me? Why this weird comment about tutuu

[VOTE: spf] aubergine just to avoid nonsense

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:21 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:18 pm Wait good case let's elim nanook
Sure, let's do it! What made you change your mind?

Like all the evidence you just posted and I think also a good night's sleep gave me clarity like it just makes so much more sense and I should follow what makes sense instead of a 180 hero shot

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

[mention]tutuu[/mention] [mention]staypositivefriend[/mention] pls pls pls

Ugh we should probably do the plan yeah I just wanna kill nanook

Spf won't be back before deadline will she goddamn it

I'm serious like I think we got off track on thunal today but earlier evidence and flipped wolf interactions look good for her and bad for nanook and imma feel real dumb if we ignore that

Wait good case let's elim nanook

Skimming Thunal's iso. Some early pushes on both Sloonei and LC that look decent, but on D2 she pulls back on Sloonei with a sort of TWTBW justification for townleaning him. I'm trying not to confbias too hard and I can see her progressions genuinely coming from town as well, but there's an argument to be made that she started off distancing from both partners but once both were more in the immediate POE she split up her stances on them and continued to let LC sink while trying to keep Sloonei afloat longer.

There's a lot that I can see both ways in her iso tbh. Game is hard.

yeah idk. I feel like I found her pretty townie-feeling on day 1 of the lendun game but still it's not the most reliable indicator

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:07 pm @nutella - help me see a thunalscum world, please

idk I should put in some work and look at her sloonei and lc interactions but a lot of her posting/tone in general feels kinda stiffly analytical, like she doesn't have the "it" of townie spark when she's solving, and her self awareness particularly about the grasslands and also about the potential wifom of the nightkills has been giving me some off vibes

me: the finest, rarest, most expensive truffle, bursting with earthy umami flavor
nanook: the centerpiece, a fine roast leg of lamb with exotic spices
tutuu: the smoothest, creamiest, softest, most delectable heap of mashed potatoes in the history of the world
spf: a gorgeously crafted strawberry cake, decorated by the finest patissieres in the land with fresh rose petals and gold leaf
thunal: a foreign wine of the deepest purple, sought after by the royal sommeliers but purveyed by a vintner of questionable reputation

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:10 pm HOW DOES IT FEEL

HOW DOES IT FEEL BEING IN THE POE

YALL LOOK AT US FROM ABOVE

AS IF WE WERE DIRTY PEASANTS ROLLING IN THE MUD WITH THE PIGS, AND YALL WERE HIGH AND MIGHTY ARISTOCRATS

"PFF, LOOK AT TUTUU AND NANOOK, THESE DIRTY PEASANTS, IMAGINE BEING AT THE POE - LOOOOOOOL" THE BOURGEOUISE SAID

BUT HOW THE TIDES HAVE TURNED

NOW ME AND NOOK ARE DINING ON FINE WINE AND TRUFFELS WHILE SPF AND THUNAL ARE OUR MAIDS AND SERVICING US

*SNAP* TUTUU SNAPS HER FINGERS - SPF, SWEETHEART, BRING ME SOME MORE OF THAT DELICIOUS FRENCH WINE!!!

*YESSS YESSS YOUR QUEEN* - SAYS SPF

*SNAP* NANOOK SNAPS HIS FINGER - THUNAL, DEAR, I WANT MORE ROASTED LAMB!!!

*HUFF PUFF HUFFP UFF* HURRIES THUNAL, BRINGING KING NANOOK HIS MEAT

meanwhile I've feasted on exquisite banquets for days. DAYS

kinda funny that i completely flipped my poe on its head from yesterday. it was gonna be between tutuu and nanook and now im more or less locking them both town and it's between thunal and spf lolololol hi dead ppl reading the thread am i dumb

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:02 pm K I’m alison now

Thunal is mafia kill us in either order, if she flips town you can kill me, etc. etc.

cool cool

hally dont click this

Spoiler: show

hmm tutuu makes good points though lmao

what if it's spf tho

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:55 pm Read my push on Hally. I made them frustrated and I got really frustrated myself because I thought they were shutting me down. I gave some meta links at SoD3 (I think) and you can verify that I wouldn't do anything this evil as scum. I think it's unethical. Additionally, Hally hard townread me nearly the entire game. If I'm scum, what would my push on Hally ever accomplish when I could just shoot them??? And there's absolutely no way I would go to a personal level as scum like that and say "my reads aren't convenient to Hally." In my 2 years of playing mafia I've never been that evil as scum. If not my other points, please believe me on this one.

damn it this is convincing

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:55 pm This is a completely suboptimal play as scum since Nut is clearer than SPF. The only reason I would ever do this as scum would be if I had a special motivation to kill SPF, and obviously that's not the case since SPF is alive.

should we be more concerned than we have been that spf is still alive lmao

but i assume they wouldn't be able to see my chat so i'd have to make my selection clear in thread by eod today? aaa

actually i guess with f3 the way to do it is pick one of them and if the dead townies think i'm wrong they'll pick the other person to shoot the third person

oh yeah also i keep forgetting that the dead townies get a say in f3 lol. well again if i'm there i'm p sure they'll all just vote for me and i'll have the entire pressure of the game on me to not guess wrong :^)

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:42 pm But I think an f3 with nanook/nutella/scumTutu is a loss more often than an f3 with nanook/nutella/scumThun,

why?

also, I saw that in the treehouse you suggested sending spf instead of me next time, but now you're assuming I'll be kept for f3. did you just realize not sending me again would be real dumb or

i think if you're town you're overthinking being sent to the grasslands. i don't think the question is necessarily why you were specifically chosen but more that there was no particular reason to send anyone else and you've been kind of in the middle enough that there wouldn't be a clear way to read into it

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:25 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:22 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:20 pm This paranoia is what Martin warned about. I don’t think it’s tutuu so I think we should vote Nook today but I’m definitely not snap voting and I’m going to do some analysis. Being suspected throws me off but it also generates info so I’d like to see if Nook jumps on me.
why is tutuu town?
I think her interactions with Sloonei look good (iirc you agree) and I don’t think scum would be the first to go after me like this when Tutuu could so easily go after Nook instead.

i mean, the main plan going into today was to just eliminate through tutuu and nook in some order, so if she just pushes nook she knows she's next so she would have to broaden to one other suspect

buuuuttttt i was already feeling paranoid about you before she started making those posts so i vibe with it

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:23 pm thunal in her quick topic:

"Scum seem to have some sort of impression that I'm a loose cannon that might make a hero shot just because I tinfoiled everyone in the game (my theory for why I keep being sent). Scum, that's not how I play."

how is that a real thought?

how is thunal, (town thunal who is supposedly offering her real thoughts) thinks that realistically she could be chosen to shoot instead of nutella?

i am not under the impression that thunal spouts random nonsense like someone like tutuu would do

i think what she said there doesnt makes sense from a town pov, and she just wanted to say a sentence in which she could talk to the scum ("hey scum, bla bla") because she thought it would look towny

yeah idk there's a lot of wifom with that and what she just said about killing hally and "drawing attention" to herself with the grasslands

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:20 pm This paranoia is what Martin warned about. I don’t think it’s tutuu so I think we should vote Nook today but I’m definitely not snap voting and I’m going to do some analysis. Being suspected throws me off but it also generates info so I’d like to see if Nook jumps on me.

leaning on a dead townie who "warned about paranoia" is not your best defense

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:20 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:18 pm i'm honestly p paranoid it's thunal here
i feel like u know nanook a lot more than i do - how much do you trust him? is this what his town game is usually like?

yeah. I hate saying this sort of thing but I think he'd look much cleaner as wolf. and I keep coming back to the LC vote too

alison was right about martin and hard sred thunal, hally was thinking about looking into thunal in the treehouse, and thunal's "reaction" to being put in the grasslands again felt a little off / I've been getting slightly weird vibes from her recent posts

idk i just like.... im sorry to martin's ghost but i just don't *really* feel like it's tutuu or nanook. it seems kinda silly if one of them wins in f3 but... thunal totally could

i'm honestly p paranoid it's thunal here

https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/fr9BMcmrgf6J

Damn it I want this to be over

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:23 pm martin feels like dejected, boxed in mafia to me. i do not get the feeling from his posts that he is confident and excited that the game is solved from his pov if he just puts in the extra bit of work. he seems cornered and beaten. it reminds me of the contrast between how sheppard was the last day of the finals versus how jack was. martin is the sheppard of this game not because of experience level but because i think he knows he is beat and that reality is coming out in his posts, so all he can do is AtE and advocate his own elimination out of desperation. i don’t buy it

yes this exactly

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:20 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:14 pm False. If you are town, there is one other person alive here who knows that with 100% certainty. And you should be doing your darndest to figure out who that person is.
Disagree. I'll die on the idea that everyone outside of Martin/Tutuu/Nanook is 100% town, and if I'm wrong on that then this is a good game to learn on that.

what do you mean disagree

the one person can be in nanook/tutuu i'm not disputing that

i'm saying that given the premise you are town, it's objective fact that someone else knows that

it's a straight up logical if p then q thing you can't disagree lol

and the thing i just pointed out to him in the previous post is like.... maybe an actual slip because like.... he should realize that lol

I honestly think martin has quasi-perspectiveslipped several times and like his principle of mostly-honesty combined with admitting that he's in the poe is basically an admission of guilt

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:11 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:05 pm “im being attacked because i just happened to have bad interactions with both flipped scum” ...yes? should we not be suspicious of that lol
I'm just venting in somewhat disappointment in myself as town, because unlike everyone else alive here, only I know my own green alignment with 100% certainty.

False. If you are town, there is one other person alive here who knows that with 100% certainty. And you should be doing your darndest to figure out who that person is.

nanook does bus yeah but I think the specifics of the LC vote are not so likely to be a bus from him? idk

mindmeld thunal -- my reaction reading that post is that he's saying things that are completely honest (in the way he talked about earlier) but still likely from a scum pov.

lololol

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:21 pm as dangerous as night kill analysis is (i know), the only 2 benefactors from alison night kill are martin (freeze the lock townread) and spf (keep alive all the ppl townreading her) imo

its silly when i put it like that tho rofl. im saying martin benefited cuz he killed the person townreading him and im saying spf benefited by NOT killing the people townreading her. and yet it makes sense. lol. idk whatever

nah that makes sense

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