The Syndicate

Holy crap, I think my theory is full of it. Just looked over the polls, and I didn't realize there was a tie in the last Night poll, so we have no idea which won.

Anyway, basically, it had to do with I thought for sure there should be a player who was questioned cursed today if the question curse is based off positions. And if no one was question cursed that meant Boomslang might be a liar liar. Then him poking fun at my "Super Secret Theory" last night made me think he knew what I was up to and was trying to laugh it off.

But now, derp, just realized there was a tie in the last Night poll.

For now, changing my vote to Llama.

MM, why aren't you on the poll?

Tranq wrote:@ Matt:

Rico, 3J, since you're here...

Would you see the above post, "@ Matt: [picture inserted]", you would take that as a statement, correct?

Linki - Okey dokey! I think I'm good! Thanks Tranq.

Wilgy, bea, motel room, please post before the day ends, thank you!

Right in front of my eyes, I feel my theory is dying a slow, painful death.

But I'm going to need Tranq to post again.

Ricochet wrote:Have bea and motelroom posted at all toDay? They don't have links on the first page...

Oh. Now that sucks.

bea, motel room, please post if you haven't posted on Day 4.

Dang it, I was so close!!!

Linki - Tranq, now that's interesting. Hmmm. Please post again, Tranq.

I'm going to place a vote on Boomslang for now. I'd have preferred to have waited until everyone posted, but right now, I'm feeling good about my theory. I still won't be sharing until both Wilgy/Tranq post, or when the day ends, so I understand if nobody wants to follow my vote today.

I also find it curious that Boomslang, of all people, immediately tried to interrupt and make fun of my "Super Secret Theory". Very interesting, indeed!

Thanks Sorsha/Llama. And haha, no not this time Sorsha

Wilgy and Tranq - please post, thank you!

Boomslang wrote:
Matt wrote:Thanks Niju

Now I just need Sorsha, Wilgy, LLama, and Tranq.
So... any reason for this particular list, or is it all a part of your Super Secret Theory?

Of course there's a reason, I just need them to post first. And hope none of them are silenced. Or actually, if one of them were silenced, that would be okay too!

Thanks Niju

Now I just need Sorsha, Wilgy, LLama, and Tranq.

Hmmm.

Can Sorsha, Niju, Wilgy Llama, and Tranq all post? I'm working on a theory, thanks! Or if you've already posted on Day 4 and I missed it, can you please quote the post for me?

Appreciate it!

LC/Rico

If night polls determine the position each night, is it possible there was no position on Night 0 or do you think the hosts would've randomized the position on Night 0?

3J was cursed with Smilies on Day 1 so it would've had to be sent on Night 0. If there was no position, there would technically be no curse, right?

Off to bed, peeps. See ya all tomorrow!

Dom - One of FZ, 3J, or MM. We're reaching "painting a target" territory, though, and I'd rather not speculate further. But now I'm wondering if I should move on from my MM sus.

Looking over Ham's posts, he seems to immediately make a rainbow with Fuzz as his top green on Day 2. Derp.

RIP Golden/HBoy/Epig(?)

If someone gets a rezz power or wins one, use it on Ham and we get a free lynch.

Is it possible Golden's teamie was a lynch candidate during the 4 way tie, and that's why Golden was getting so irate about it?

Golden, you keep saying you don't know why, if 3J was bad, why would he try to push the lynch away from his main competition, Llama, onto someone new. Is this correct?

If my gut above is right (which it's prolly not

), would that make sense then? Say they're partners, and say 3J knows he's not going to be lynched because of his save. Then why not try to push the lynch onto someone other then your teamie?

Then again, I have no idea how 3J plays baddieville, he may bus the heck out of teammates for all I know, but what do you think?

HamburgerBoy wrote:
Matt wrote:Llama, are you and 3J in cahoots?

I've actually been feeling better about 3J but your last two posts defending him, somethin' feels off.

Like, it sounds as if 3J actually got a PM from the hosts telling him "yes you can roleclaim" and that you know about it, as opposed to 3J just seeing Turnip's post quoting the front page.
What do you mean "just seeing"? Turnip made that post just a couple posts prior to Jimmy's roleclaim. I don't see how it makes a difference if he sent a PM to the mods anyways for clarification.

As in "just seeing" Turnip's post and deciding to roleclaim.

The way Llama words his posts defending 3J, it feels like Llama is saying 3J got confirmation directly through the hosts (like through a PM) saying "yes you can roleclaim" as opposed to 3J just responding to Turnip's post.

Again, I'm probably bein' a weirdo as usual, but just something I felt.

Anyway, it doesn't make a difference if 3J actually sent a PM to the mods, but IT DOES make a difference if Llama knows that. Ya see?

Llama, are you and 3J in cahoots?

I've actually been feeling better about 3J but your last two posts defending him, somethin' feels off.

Like, it sounds as if 3J actually got a PM from the hosts telling him "yes you can roleclaim" and that you know about it, as opposed to 3J just seeing Turnip's post quoting the front page.

If Rico wasn't a confirmed civ, I'd probably eye him for suggesting Dom is bad because of the word "suspish". However, fun story, and Long Con can concur. In AWR, one of the reasons I guessed Dom was the Living Statue was because in btsc he said "tbqh", and in the game, he was literally the only person to use "tbqh" haha. So maybe you have a point.

Nah. If Dom was bad, he would've ripped Boomslang a new one for daring to suspect him. That's what I've seen bad Dom do in multiple games, just FREAK OUT on the person suspecting him.

I like Golden's vote and just may join him.

And "Sorry if this has already been addressed" is part of 3J's original quote.

Derp a derp.

Well that was an unfortunate quoting disaster.

My comments start at my joke towards the host with the "back out of the room" smiley.

Derp.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Any non-long-con player, your thoughts on what LC inquired.
Is anyone going to pay any attention to the Confirmed Civ? These are dark times, Rico.
Refer me to the inquiry and I'll give some thoughts.

Long Con wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Correct me if I am wrong, but Roger Rabbit was not a scum in Who Framed Roger Rabbit, so the fact that Duncan was civ is irrelevant.
My role was a Civ role in the game it came from, and it is a Civ role now. How many people have received a role whose alignment is different from the original game it came from? Is this a dangerous question to ask?
This looks like it would be against the rules, or at least the intended spirit. I say so because of what happened in Economics Mafia when the roles had to be reshuffled and players weren't allowed to even say as much as "I was mafia before and now I'm town".

Hosts?

Kidding, SVS!

Linki - 3J, Marmot is obvi the second baddiest baddie after Epig. Do you get civ vibes from Marmot? I'm still kind of hung up on the "which team" thing. And last night, when ISOing Zeebs, I saw she and MM were frequently having back and forths. Of course, that could've also been Zeebs just buddying up. What do you think?

Sorry if this has already been addressed.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Aren't you supposed to be laying down and taking it today?
Absolutely not. I'm supposed to be telling DharmaHelper he's mafia-aligned as the guillotine is being set u[, and seconds after my head is removed I might even manage a wink.

Rico - What do you think of MM? Nobody is talking about the Marsh Man!

Marmot - Do you think if I started calling you civ, people would vote for you?

What does everyone think of Epi?

ISO'd Zebra last night. It looked like she was trying to help MM when MM claimed the "which team" thing was bait and he was getting pressure for it. Someone else read their back and forth, maybe I'm reading it wrong.

3J - I still don't see why Zebra wouldn't put a curse on you as her teamie. As you said yourself, you've been major busy with personal stuff and you've also admitted Mafia fatigue. So why wouldn't that be ideal, Zebra curses you, you get to take it easy and a bit of sus is lifted off of you at the same time?

Sounds logical from where I'm sittin'.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Well, I'm not happy with the direction this is going. I feel that I've answered the charges against me very clearly, and am rather surprised people are buying into them. I don't want to vote for JJ, but I will to defend myself, because unlike Golden, I care whether I die.
Would you consider a Boomslang lynch?

Forgot to respond to your question about how well me and Boom know each other...

We've only played with each other once before, in Pet Sounds as Mafia. He seemed to coast by there, while here it looks like he's putting in an effort. G2H I'd say Boom is good.

I want to vote Epi but it looks like the big two are Llama and 3J, who I also believe are bad.

Going with Llama. I still think Llama's suspicion of Mac early on, then both of them moving to sig while Llama's sus of Mac drops completely...is

Mac - Between Llama and 3J, if it was just between those two, who would you vote for?

Got the whole day off, btw peeps, but I have to run some errands. Will be back in a few.

DharmaHelper wrote: If I got into all the problems I see with Epi's play we'd have another Mac/Rico/Zebra situation, or more accurately, another DH/Epi situation of taking up the thread for no good reason.

So you do think there are problems with Epi's play. But based on the underline, you think it's irrelevant to his affiliation, therefore "for no good reason" ?

Linki - Lol I think 3J is as confuzzled as I was by your statement, DH.

Mac, no, I'm not trying to create conflict. I have reason to believe Epig is a big bad and I wanted your thoughts on him. Which I'm not sure I even got, you pretty much just kept turning it back on me, I see. Just to be clear, though, you no longer suspect Lorab?

Llama - Thanks.

FZ - I was immediately pinged by you when you said that you had never played a game with bad sig. You have, though, in Dune. I suppose we could chalk that up to plain forgetfulness regardless of affiliation, I dunno. Also, in one reply to Rico, you say something to him like "Way to twist my words" or something, which I thought was funny because Rico is civ so you think Rico is twisting your words? Then, a few posts later, you comment that there is no reason for you to guess about Rico because you know his affiliation...makes me feel that at some point between those two posts, your potential teamies reminded you that Rico is a civvie and therefore accusing him of twisting your words ain't cool.

DH - If you think Black Rock is fibbing about Lorab, does that mean you also think Epig and others are BSing their cases on Lorab? Or is it just BR?

G2H

Llama - Bad

LC - Civ

3J - Bad

Wilgy -

(whether civ or bad)

Alright peeps, time for sleep.

Another day off tomorrow. Another day...for justice!

Mac, I think Epig is quite possibly one of those Mafia folk. Because reasons. I'd like to see his response to my inquires before I go further.

Btw I just read the last page of your ISO and apparently you no longer find Lorab suspicious. So you disagree with Epig about Lorab then?

Golden, as you know, I was quite involved in another game here at TS, as well as the fact that this game was bombarded with lunacy (and lots and lots of posts to go along with it) until Rico was lynched. Today was my first of three days off in a row, and I finally caught up. You will be seeing a lot more of me from here on out.

Mac, why is it pingy that I'm asking players to tell me their reads of other players? What are your thoughts on Epig? Do you agree with him that Lorab should be lynched?

And your thoughts on Epi, Golden?

I dunno, that post of yours I quoted sounded basically like "Yo sig, great defense. I think you could be alright. But hey, gonna keep my vote where it is, k champ?" I'm hesitant to ever vote for sig early ever again really, and I was surprised to see you were one of the peeps leading the charge on him.

What's your read of Epignosis?

Epignosis, please give a simple civ/baddie/indy/unsure response of the following players...

Golden, FZ, 3J, and Metalmarsh.

Llama - Are you still suspicious of Mac or have you completely dropped it now that the two of you have successfully helped get sig lynched? MacD, what's your read of Llama?

Thank you for your cooperation.

Linki - I'll have to go check Dune then, Golden, I swore you didn't want to lynch him.

Caught up...

Golden wrote:@sig - I think you've defended well and defended all the cases. You've done enough to give me doubt. I'm by no means certain about you.

But you've also done enough to make me feel comfortable about voting your way, I feel good about it. But when people (including me) defend you for 'just being sig'... well, that shouldn't be dismissed. There is genuinely something to you getting lynched for nothing. In this case I just don't feel it is nothing.

I guess we will see.

Lol. Golden's obvi bad. Even when Golden was forced to vote for sig in Dune where sig was bad and Golden was civ, Golden was like "Sorry sig I don't wanna do this" or something to that effect. I think an iso of Golden is in order!

I also have a slight suss of FZ for reasons and I would like her to give me her read of Epignosis.

RIP bcornett, Fuzz, and Timmer. You three shall be avenged!

Welcome bea and motel room!

Whoa, got home from work and saw the poll is ending soon!

I still have to catch up, but I see sig is getting lynched as he always does. Lol.

Right now, the only susses I have are Drac, MM, and juliets. We'll go with MM again since it doesn't seem to even matter.

Peace out sig!

Um Golden, it's not confirmed that every role is a position role, that's what I meant by "it's possible, that if someone DID curse Draconus, it's a positions role". Again, my role isn't a positions role.

Derp, am I making sense here?

I just reread this post 5 times and I don't think I would get what I'm saying if I didn't already know. Haha let me know.

Boomslang, I find it unlikely that there are two curse roles in a game where there were up to 60 roles (and I'm assuming, role powers) originally but was cut to 30. No doubt our hosts have all kinds of cool shit planned for this game, so why would they keep two roles, one that curses in smilies and the other that curses in questions? Overkill for a champions game, I think.

As for positions, I dunno. I didn't play Recruitment and my role has nothing to do with positions, but I suppose it's possible given Zebra's flip.

Why are so many against looking at Draconus?

juliets, were you faking your confusion earlier or was it legit?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
juliets wrote:Wait - I though Jimmy just told me Keterman was zebra's old name. I'll look at JJJ's post again.

I'm taking some time away from the thread to watch some football. I'll check in a couple of times i hope during the games.
They're the same person. Zebra identifies as a girl.

So you think Juliets was really confuzzled and not faking said confuzzlement?

juliets wrote:Wait - I though Jimmy just told me Keterman was zebra's old name. I'll look at JJJ's post again.

I'm taking some time away from the thread to watch some football. I'll check in a couple of times i hope during the games.

I feel like there have been enough games where people go "He? She?" in regards to Zebra, that Juliets' confuzzlement looks fake and I think they could be teamies.

Juliets, Keterman was a male, I believe. *snicker*

Hey peeps. Sorry I haven't been around much, this thread has been going at a rapid pace and it's hard to catch up after work. I do have three days off this coming week starting Tuesday, though, so yay.

Rih Zeebs.

I disagree with 3J and think we should look at Draconus next. In the signup thread, SVS said there were up to 60 roles, so when it came down to cutting thirty of them, she and Turnip decided to keep TWO curse roles?

Eff that, lynch that Drac!

Wow, cool result peeps.

Draconus, who do you think would curse you to ask questions?

Ricochet wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Matt wrote:when you're not posting in all smilies

It will be over soon, it seems.

I imagine when day ends. Lol

LoRab wrote:Fell asleep on the couch about 5 minutes into the episode I started of Making of a Murderer.

Just watched the first episode a couple nights ago. Really entertaining so far. However, last night, the Facebook news feed of all places seems to have spoiled a bit for me!

Oh well.

Linki - 3J, that reminds me, when you're not posting in all smilies, can you tell me why you think I'm bad? Thanks!

Ricochet wrote:
Matt wrote:
Btw, everyone going after Lorab for her twirl is awkward. Lorab's twirl is fun, IMO, whether she's good or bad. I've never once thought she was good or bad because of it, but it's fun, you meanies!

Good luck making a case on her, then. I'd literally pay money to watch.

I don't get it. You'd pay money to watch me make a case on Lorab?

I'm cheap, tell me how much and depending on the price, I'll tunnel Lorab until endgame. Twirl be damned!

Every game lol. Zeebs is a confirmed chica, peeps.

Btw, everyone going after Lorab for her twirl is awkward. Lorab's twirl is fun, IMO, whether she's good or bad. I've never once thought she was good or bad because of it, but it's fun, you meanies!

MM, considering you are my only suspect as of now, it's weird that I completely agree with you on Rico. Guess we'll see pretty soon, though.

I'm not trying to policy lynch MM.

Anyway, it's not much, but this caught my eye...

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Ricochet wrote:LoRab and llama have not butted heads over who is the better writer and poster.

confirmed fishy
I think I'm cool with lynching llama first. I hope I don't forget by the time I have to vote.
Which team do you think he is on?

This is a closed set up, and though there are most likely two teams of baddies, I think there's also a possibility that there is a big team of 7 or 8 like there was in Talking Heads.

But Marmot automatically assumes two teams.

Also...

Anyone notice that Draconus has posted in nothing but questions since the Day started? Another curse?

So either there are two curse roles, or one of Drac and 3J are faking. Or it's just wildy coincidental that Drac has posted in all questions since Day started. I guess he can clear that up with his next post.

Three posts ago you had 5555 posts, DH.

Sweet.

Linki - MM is bad. Remember, Lorab, when I invited you to vote for MM or Turnip in M:AWR and you weren't sold quite then either? Same thing here. Do it. DO IT!!!

MM obvi.

See? He even thinks so!

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