The Syndicate

At least I got Alpha's skin as the disguise right

Good job mafia, and thanks for the game Sprit.

Well, that sucks. I couldn't get on before EoD. I'm sorry about that.

Is this real life?

Kilo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:46 pm Yeah I really don't see why mafia would kill Hotel.

Then again this same mafia killed India.

What does this mean?

One day later and I'm back!

Charlie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:46 pm clearly both mafia are still alive then, and that kill looks quite like disguiser business. hooray us.

no good way to go about business. i want everyone in here talking immediately. no more lazy bullshit. wake up and make posts. tell me who's bad and who's not. silence is unacceptable for any player regardless of alignment and would disrespect sprityo's vision for his game. let's go.

Humor me about the Hotel looking genuine last phase, Charlie-Kun.

I'll be back around 9 p.m EST. I'd like to try a live exercise then, please be around.

Hmm that's all for now folks

If Hotel was disguiser, me think it's one of Kilo/Delta and Alpha as the new Disguiser.

I'd like to think Charlie is Town and still the same person being used to create that wifom/disguiser/chaos angle.

Alright y'all I'm town and I'm still the same Bravo.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:15 pm if people have 4th July plans I can give another day

If needed

Yes please

Fuck fuckity fuck fuck

This only make sense if Charlie is good though.

But that'd be too obvious of a disguise kill, if I were the Disguiser I'd have jumped into Alpha's skin. Charlie is an obvious target, and is better used for wifom and chaos.

If Hotel was the Disguiser, Charlie is the most likely target unless he's also bad.

Oh boy

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:57 pm assuming a night kill, we proceed to either 4 vs 1 or 3 vs 2.

the latter is easy to investigate now with a limited field. if any two living players are teamed, we can find them as a team with elimination analyses of all interactions.

if it's just one, we should get two more shots. i am optimistic. an oracle/doctor assist would be lovely.

We'll know by day start in which world we're living.

hmmmm

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:35 pm

Bravo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:34 pm I mean they kind of do. When both options are available, they have to remain consistent, They had already mentioned a preference to lynch Foxtrot, so giving them credit for that is meh.

they don't have to remain consistent. they don't have to become inconsistent. the dude said they wanted to lynch Foxtrot, and when Hotel made that the prevailing option they did it. what do you expect from a civilian?

Exactly the same. Let me ask you this, do you expect a baddie Kilo to not go with it when Hotel made it a possibility?

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:32 pm

Bravo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:29 pm

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:26 pm i appreciate that 1) kilo was selective with their self-preservation and 2) they're content in the end to choose Foxtrot, who if a mislynch is easy game-winning bait at LyLo

Hmmm what does 'selective with their self preservation' even mean. They were present at the end, and it does not really matter at what minute they voted. Also they chose Delta first, so I'd slow down on giving them praise about being content to choose Foxtrot.

they chose Delta first because that was the available self-preservation wagon. Hotel's vote for Foxtrot changed the scenario.

a mafioso who wants to remain alive does not intrinsically care who gets lynched in their stead. i think Kilo looked authentic in giving a damn whether it was Foxtrot or Delta

I mean they kind of do. When both options are available, they have to remain consistent, They had already mentioned a preference to lynch Foxtrot, so giving them credit for that is meh.

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:27 pm

Bravo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:27 pm Do you know something we do not?

i agree with the basic premise that the current day is always more crucial than the one before it.

Each day is crucial in its own right, especially when we're not aware of the current ratio, so the premise that we're at a crucial Day 'X' is cheap. It implied some stuff me think.

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:26 pm i appreciate that 1) kilo was selective with their self-preservation and 2) they're content in the end to choose Foxtrot, who if a mislynch is easy game-winning bait at LyLo

Hmmm what does 'selective with their self preservation' even mean. They were present at the end, and it does not really matter at what minute they voted. Also they chose Delta first, so I'd slow down on giving them praise about being content to choose Foxtrot.

Hotel wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:24 pm

Bravo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:22 pm

Hotel wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:19 pm

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:14 pm

Hotel wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:12 pm I am momentarily here and uninformed

who is worst among Delta, Foxtrot, and Kilo?

Foxtrot lynch feels uninspired but I have no specific reason to argue against it. I can’f honestly say I’ve paid enough attention to assess whether Lynch A Lurker is the best strategy today, but on a crucial Day 4 my Mafia Senses tell me that’s a meh move.

What are the key points against the other two?

It is D3. What do you mean by crucial

Was D2 not as crucial

We’re later in the game.

Do you know something we do not?

Lameeeeee

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:23 pm don't like Kilo lynch

Way better than the fox

Switched to Kilo, the fox should live

Hotel wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:19 pm

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:14 pm

Hotel wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:12 pm I am momentarily here and uninformed

who is worst among Delta, Foxtrot, and Kilo?

Foxtrot lynch feels uninspired but I have no specific reason to argue against it. I can’f honestly say I’ve paid enough attention to assess whether Lynch A Lurker is the best strategy today, but on a crucial Day 4 my Mafia Senses tell me that’s a meh move.

What are the key points against the other two?

It is D3. What do you mean by crucial

Was D2 not as crucial

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:08 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:57 pm

Juliet wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:32 pm

Charlie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:07 pm number of posts made since the start of day 2 if i didn't miscount:

Echo - 23
Delta - 13
Juliet - 10
Hotel - 9
Charlie - 9
Kilo - 7
Bravo - 4
Alpha - 3
Foxtrot - 1

if one of these people is supposed to be india in disguise and the previous lurking is supposed to hold, the options are at the bottom there. i view this as a pretty flimsy premise in general (i'm not even convinced india was the disguiser), but it's worth a look. someone who cares about this theory should tell me which one of these people is fake.

So I had an idea today based off the whole theory that India molted and has assumed a new sockpuppet. Wouldn't they reasonably choose someone who is low-profile and not about to get themselves lynched? Meaning the least likely person we would want to lynch today probably should be lynched today.

Nope, nope, nope. See, this is a baddie manipulation of this mechanic. This is what a baddie would want us to do. This is how they would spin this.

[VOTE: Juliet] aubergine

@Bravo

is Delta teamed with Juliet?

I think so yeah. That vote made it 4v2 I believe, although Alpha had not voted in the poll. The general discussion was leading to a Juliet lynch, and my vote was still available to save myself and consolidate that lynch if Delta tried to vote me to save Juliet. The reasoning is whack, the vote feel forced. The quote feels arbitrary, like someone going through an iso to find a reason to vote someone rather than being pinged by a scummy post. I am not sure Delta spoke about Juliet much prior to the vote

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:02 pm Bravo, if it's Delta why are you alive?

i've had to ask myself the same question about the suspects i have touted longest.

I thought about that, especially with a Disguiser around and no flips. I guess maybe because of the Delta v Bravo going around and me seemingly being seen the worse between the two. Keep me around for that,

It would be hilarious if Charlie is taking the piss

Kilo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:42 pm

Bravo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:40 pm Considering it how

Its awful

Is it

For all we know there are 6 civs left and the only baddie is spamming cartoon gifs.

Do you actually believe that

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:43 pm

Bravo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:40 pm Considering it how

Its awful

it feels awful, but it isn't invalid. Foxtrot can be a mafioso. it'd just be a boring answer. the biggest reason i doubt it has nothing to do with Foxtrot themself -- it's the people voting for him

Hmm fair enough, although I think some reasons to doubt lie with Foxtrot themselves. Their tone, the apathetic townie vibe they are reeking with, the sheeping Juliet to vote me which makes them difficult to pair in my opinion.

That took way too long

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:42 pm

Bravo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:39 pm

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:36 pm

Bravo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:35 pm Why were you voting Delta, Charlie.

because their reads list made me feel nothing whatsoever, and a reads list shouldn't have that property

also the "preferably probably" adverb salad in the last portion of that post

Then why are saying that my case on him sucks

That hurts man

linki your words, not mine

your attitude is suggestive of Delta being an obvious choice, and that the rest of our dialogue is simply a delay to lynching Delta. there are reasons to suspect Delta. they are not sufficient to justify your tunneling. your tunneling is indeed something that brings me to resist following your lead. i do not understand at all the degree of confidence that you are expressing against Delta. overconfidence bores me, and it also loses games -- if you're right, you need to dig deep and show me why you're right -- not just why Delta is bad, but also why not-Delta is good. moreover, you have to do so in a manner which reflects a player who is attempting to convince a civilian of the best approach, not a manner which reflects a player wanting to be in charge of the game.

Fair enough. My attitude is just a reflection of my own confident read on him, that is about it. It does not mean at all that the rest of the dialogue is a delay to lynching Delta, far from it. I mean I also think Kilo is bad, I struggled with Hotel and Alpha gave me pause. I am confident about Delta, but I am still exploring other options, it is just that I want him gone first. Although I said I was open to switch my vote as to consolidate Kilo as a lynch target instead of having a tie.

I guess on top of the reasons to suspect Delta, it is more our direct interaction that fueled my read on him and the confidence. I
believe my exact feeling of his handling of the interactions are described in some of my posts, one of them to you trying to ask you to reread him with it in mind. Overconfidence is my bread and butter though, so I am sorry about that.

I do not think I can do more than I have done about sharing my thoughts and feelings about Delta, especially not in my current condition. I also do not think I have shown signs of someone just trying to be in charge of the game. While confident about them, I am not in Delta or riot mode, since I am open to other votes and still have not figured out everything. I guess a loose play style may give you that impression, but I am just taking it easy due to some stuff.

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:15 pm I have not defended more than attacked! I have answered questions and addressed what people ask me of, I’ve ISOed and given clear reads on everyone. I’ve been clear who I currently suspect and do not. Any defending I’ve done is because people are directly asking me for answers to something.

I’m starting to feel like no one reads anything I say.

LOL

Considering it how

Its awful

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:34 pm i am actually considering the "everyone seems okay so murder Foxtrot" line of thinking

What do you mean

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:36 pm

Bravo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:35 pm Why were you voting Delta, Charlie.

because their reads list made me feel nothing whatsoever, and a reads list shouldn't have that property

also the "preferably probably" adverb salad in the last portion of that post

Then why are saying that my case on him sucks

That hurts man

linki your words, not mine

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:35 pm

Bravo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:34 pm

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:31 pm "pick one guy to tunnel all game" is a very ordinary mafioso strategy. Bravo i think your case against Delta sucks. give me a better case.

There are no better cases. Even my great case on Kilo is not good enough.

I checked your ISO. your case on Kilo doesn't exist. "kilo - bad" and "kilo and delta might be a team" and "faaaaaaake" are not a case

Those are called blitz cases. They can not move further until the first target is six feet under.

Why were you voting Delta, Charlie.

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:31 pm "pick one guy to tunnel all game" is a very ordinary mafioso strategy. Bravo i think your case against Delta sucks. give me a better case.

There are no better cases. Even my great case on Kilo is not good enough.

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:25 pm

Bravo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:25 pm

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:08 pm Bravo, why is everyone more civilian in appearance than Delta?

Because they are not as shady as him, except Kilo.

what's the problem with Kilo?

Check my iso

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:23 pm Bravo, you've been more focused on Delta as compared to the rest than Delta has been on you as compared to the rest.

Lets lynch him, and I will concentrate on the rest. Although I think I have more natural interactions with others than Delta has. All he is doing is sharing bland reads here and there after drawing back and forth. He is not really interacting with the game, unless it is to defend himself and play the victim.

Linki lol

Did I not tell you to stop asking me questions

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:08 pm Bravo, why is everyone more civilian in appearance than Delta?

Because they are not as shady as him, except Kilo.

I can't play on mobile. This is hell. Stop asking me questions

Charlie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:38 pm @Bravo if you haven't already, please tell me the alignments of the dead people.

I don't think I did except maybe Juliet. I think she was bad, Echo obvious civ, he was pretty high on a consensus rainbow, so being disguiser and changing accounts makes little sense.

Golf civ I guess. India too, although they look like a potential disguiser I'd like to think it was a chaos kill and Juliet was the disguiser. That'd explain the Echo kill.

Why is the innkeeper voting me? That's unacceptable