The Syndicate

Cool story bro

My list sounds reasonable yet the two people I suspect the most are not on your list.

Wait how am I scaring the crap out of you?

Although Scotty probably #1 now, Epi #2, Wilgy #3

I think they are between epi / scotty/ wilgy.

Who do you think are the last two baddies svs?

Nub svs

Where is Sorsha? Would like to hear her opinions on people.

Matt why did you try to kill me nub

Scotty wrote: Again, SVS, I think highly of you as a person, but I don't buy for a second if you were bad that you wouldn't do what you have to do to win.

I would.

And if you believe that I was attacked, then you should trust my word on this. I 100% believe SVS on this and have no intention of lynching her. on you Scotty.

The only way that she is bad is if I was not the target in some weird way and I think that has a very low probability now that we know Floyd was a powerrole as well.

a2thezebra wrote:
Everyone else made no mention of the list at all, which I find interesting.

Why would you expect anyone to respond to a clearly nonsense list?

Can we keep the votes on Matt for today please? It would make sense that Floyd would check him and vote him based on that... so I'm voting Matt.

SVS, you do realize that if you lied about trying to kill me, I will never, ever, trust you in a mafia game again.

I still prefer Toilet Bowl Cleaner.

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Long Con wrote:Sketchy stuff all around! If I'm Locke, I probably have a cool power role, because I'm Special, right?

Depends on how you look at it. Spoiler if you haven't seen Lost!

Spoiler: show

Locke wasn't, in fact, special, and is deceived into believing he has special powers on the island. Later he is possessed by the smoke monster. Really would be a great alibi for the smoke monster in this game if we're looking at alibis, no?

I originally had Locke pegged as the investigator, as in the investigator of the island, but I was wrong. I'm not sure what else he could be as a PR.

If I were designing this

Spoiler: show

I would have the Man in Black be a Mafia role that shows up as John Locke if lynched.

I'd have MiB be a mafia role that shows up as a passenger to a role check, ie Floyds role. That makes more sense than what you posted, especially considering this is a Season 1 game, not a Season 5 game.

Just FYI, I will not be around a lot for Day 3. Dunno how much I will be able to post.

Top suspect is still Epi. If Mafia got fake roles to claim, I would think that they would be more likely to hint from the beginning. As everybody has hinted or claimed a different role, I am quite confident this is actually the case.
Scotty is also on my list.
If I had to guess the third baddie, LC/Wilgy/Matt? Something like that.

The fact that almost everybody else has hinted?

Claire or Walt? Take your pick. Pick the one you're not if you want, and we will never have to talk about rolehints and what not again. Instead, we can just focus on the gamethread

Scotty wrote:

S~V~S wrote:In other games like this it often is the Godfather iirc, can't die until his other teammates do. But anything is possible.

I have not played many of these on other forums. But I have never heard of baddies being given fake roles to claim, but what do i know?

Who even initially brought that up as a thing?

Long Con did

Are we to assume that all 3 power roles are civs btw?

Maybe Zebra is willing to claim a role now... ?

Zebra you can focus all your time on this game now

S~V~S wrote:Why would this host of all hosts do that?

I just am not seeing this.

Does Golden have experience with closed setups on other forums?
Is it normal to give roles for baddies to claim with closed setups with themes like this?

Bullzeye just claimed Kate.

And you interpreted it correctly.

S~V~S wrote:

Typhoony wrote:
In Pikmin I was comfortable with Epi's posts from the beginning and never really feel like lynching him. In this game, none of his posts are making me comfortable.
There's also the very obvious Sawyer roleclaim. I think that Golden did indeed give the baddies fake roles to claim, making roleclaims completely useless, and Sawyer is the perfect role for Epi to claim since he fits that role naturally (minus the being a hunk ofcourse). I could see Epi acting like Sawyer in a Lost game regardless of if he had that role or not, but now he went over the top, enjoying it just a bit too much for me to think he is doing this as a civ.

Are you saying the bad team couldpotentially be people on the plane? I would find that easier to believe than Golden giving the baddies a list of roles that were NOT civvies. I find that hard to swallow.

No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying what you find hard to swallow. Would that not make sense in a closed game where roleclaiming is almost encouraged by the Host?

@ Sorsha: i'm Shannon.

What exactly seems like a stretch?

I think Zebra would stick with lynching Matt in that case for the civ cred.

Bullzeye wrote:

nutella wrote:@ sorsha - Wilgy already said hasn't even seen Lost, so no way he'd make that up.


anyway, shit, RIP Floyd. Kinda weird how those votes suddenly happened, I'm not really clear on why. But I just want to lynch Zebra even more.

Makes me think Matt and Zebra are very likely to be baddie teammates now.

a2thezebra wrote:Because of what you said in these two posts, or is there more to it?

Typhoony wrote:I am tempted to vote Floyd for breaking this glorious tie, or Epi for not making it an even bigger tie.

But I'll change my vote to SVS for now, because she seemed to be setting up a vote on DF if Matt wasn't going to post something suspicious here, which he seemingly has done now. I don't see it, but okay.

Typhoony wrote:I'd like to hear more from Epi.

He hasn't made a case yet that made me go "wtf have you been smoking today" and it's almost Day 2.

First one was nonsense.
Second one was genuine.
His case on SVS did not make me think "wtf have you been smoking".

In Pikmin I was comfortable with Epi's posts from the beginning and never really feel like lynching him. In this game, none of his posts are making me comfortable.
There's also the very obvious Sawyer roleclaim. I think that Golden did indeed give the baddies fake roles to claim, making roleclaims completely useless, and Sawyer is the perfect role for Epi to claim since he fits that role naturally (minus the being a hunk ofcourse). I could see Epi acting like Sawyer in a Lost game regardless of if he had that role or not, but now he went over the top, enjoying it just a bit too much for me to think he is doing this as a civ.

I'm not putting this lynch on Epi either, but I'd still like to lynch him.

Can we lynch Epi next?

I have no read on Bullz, I was leaning very slightly civ on Floyd D1. That's it basically.

I wanna see Matt's reaction to this

I would be more comfortable with this choo choo if it was Bullzeye, but it beats lynching Zebra. I think.

... What?

I'll put a vote on Floyd for now, but I need to think this through. You're confusing the shit out of me.

You'd need 2 more, besides me. If you vote Matt, my vote is enough.

You just put yourself in the lynch seat

Again, I'm talking about a Heist game. I think you would fight really hard if someone wanted to kill me if it was a normal 30+ player game.

I don't think you would bring up my name as a target, but if someone would bring up my name in a game like this, I don't think you'd forbid them from killing me.

Are you cursed to get Matt lynched without providing a single reason as to why he is bad?

a2thezebra wrote:

Typhoony wrote:Ok Zebra, convince me that Matt is bad.

I looked through your posts. I don't see a case on him. All you do is say that you've given him enough free passes and then you claim that you are certain that he is bad without actually saying why, except for the fact that you don't believe both D1 bandwagons were civ. Somehow that has given him 4 votes.

Hell, you said earlier on that you weren't even familiar with Matt's baddie game but that his gameplay in this game is in tune with his civ or indy game.

Make a case on Matt. Why is this his baddie game?

The underlined portion is something to think about, wouldn't you agree?

Yes. It shows that people are lazy fuckers in general.

Case? Reason as to why Matt is bad? Pretty please?

Ok Zebra, convince me that Matt is bad.

I looked through your posts. I don't see a case on him. All you do is say that you've given him enough free passes and then you claim that you are certain that he is bad without actually saying why, except for the fact that you don't believe both D1 bandwagons were civ. Somehow that has given him 4 votes.

Hell, you said earlier on that you weren't even familiar with Matt's baddie game but that his gameplay in this game is in tune with his civ or indy game.

Make a case on Matt. Why is this his baddie game?

Scotty wrote:Oh, and happy birthday, Bullzeye! I'd sing the happy birthday song, but it's copyrighted.

Since last year somewhere, the song is no longer copyrighted. You are free to sing it!

a2thezebra wrote:What a coincidence, I have trouble seeing how anyone can be so in favor of it. Unless of course...

You forgot to finish your sentence.

I really have trouble seeing how someone can be so against the idea. It pings the shit out of me honestly.

Do you know why Epignosis knows your role?

So you don't believe his claim?

a2thezebra wrote:

Typhoony wrote:You realize that this is an easy way for a baddie to not go along with outing right?

That's why I want more specifics.

And do you realize that, if you're bad, which I am unaware of, what you're doing is an easy way to find out whether or not I'm a serious threat to you?

Nope. You're acting very much like you have a power role, so you're doing a good enough job of acting like you are a serious threat to the baddies all by yourself. Problem is that I'm not sure I believe this, since you are really over the top. But I have no interest in lynching you right now, let that be very clear.

Claiming a role in itself is not that big. I'm pretty sure I can come up with useful powers for most of the Losties that I can think of, so then it is up to the baddies to figure out what roles Golden actually gave a power. I think that is worth tradeoff with everybody claiming a role.

The role in itself doesn't mean that much. Look at the rules:

There are only three power roles, but it is not known what they are. It should not be presumed that they are all necessarily useful.

If we assume that Sorsha's claim is true, that's one power role that actually is useful. Maybe your role is useless.

Are you still suspicious of Matt Zebra?

Scotty wrote:

Typhoony wrote:I agree with LC on this. I see no issue with claiming.

Ok mister wise pants. Sorsha just claimed Jack, the doctor.

She just out a gigantic target on her back.

once everyone claims their respective role, assuming that baddies can just claim like fucking Vincent or something, it won't take a genius to figure out what power roles they could be.

Again, I think it's worth the tradeoff. The baddies do not know what roles have powers, so they would have to think of potential powers for every roleclaim and work around that.

LC, why don't you be the leading man and claim your role?

You realize that this is an easy way for a baddie to not go along with outing right?

That's why I want more specifics.

You gotta give me more than that Zebra. You're making it seem like you are the only role that the baddies must kill to win.

I'm going to guess that you're not willing to explain why?

Scotty could you elaborate on the things that can go wrong if we all claim?

You seem to be against it the most.

Normally, all-claiming would make it easier for the baddies to pick off who they think have a powerrole(s).

But someone has already claimed a powerrole, so that is less of an issue.

I agree with LC on this. I see no issue with claiming.