The Syndicate

Who do you think it is? You've only been asking others and haven't given your own opinion.

I have no concrete idea as to who it could be.

Not the people who haven't been here at all. Not MP.
For now I'm willing to take out of my list the people that have said before that they have been scarecrowed. I don't know who that are and I don't have time to look for it, but I'm sure somebody will.

That leaves you with a group of people that could be the Scarecrow.

Yes

Also Golden Bubbles wasn't bad in AWR, she was an sk/indy that could turn civ

Enrique why do you think Dom / Golden / Juliets were given civ roles?

Also death to sprityo!

Nubs

Fuck it I really need to go to sleep.

Voting DF.

I have no read on LoRab at all.
I have a slight baddie read on df.

That's cause I was cursed in a way that allowed that.

Hey Nygma, you punk. Give out some curses that people can work with like you did with me. Asshole.

Who are both browsing the forum right now.

Let's hear their thoughts

Linki: Hello SVS

I'm willing to vote a low poster that has been able to send in the kills. Who are the possibilities then?

He's seemed more like civ Dom than baddie Dom to me. He's involved and seems genuine in his thought processes.

Golden wrote: Lol, I can see we are just going around in circles.

OK - I feel very badgered and I'm actually kind of pissed off at you that I'm doing this.

I'm a cop. The reason I said to Mac he could track me all he wanted and he would never see me target the person who died is because, like, even as not the killer I literally can't target the person who dies.

But I shouldn't have had to SAY this. I don't like that you basically force me to admit I'm a cop or else you will scum-read me.

I don't know if this changes anything in how I think about you tbh, so don't simply assume it does. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for now, not because of this post, but because of the exchange we had.

That does mean I need to find someone else to vote.

juliets wrote:Typh regarding you asking who i would vote, I just made a post re: how i feel like I have no body to vote. I won't vote you or Dom or Golden at this time. The only person I have any small inkling to vote would be Matt for not letting DH respond to accusations before voting him but thats a mighty slim reason. This is really just a condensed version of the post I made. Maybe you missed it.

I did not miss it. It just felt like a post to make a post really. It's almost the end of the Day and I can't do much with "I will not vote X, Y, Z, A, B, C, D or E." Hence why I asked who you would vote for right now and why.

Golden wrote:

Typhoony wrote:If I was that role (I'm not), I'd probably be pissed at you for saying you think that.

And yet... you are badgering me to claim.

If you want to say you think I'm a cop, feel free

If I was that role (I'm not), I'd probably be pissed at you for saying you think that.

Civvies thoughts will progress and evolve as the game goes on. They start with 0 knowledge. As information (ie posts etc) gets dropped in the thread, they will learn more about the game. Their thoughts can and will change more often.
Baddies' thoughts less so, simply because they have more knowledge at the start of the game and generally have a better grip on what is going on.

@ Juliets: Who would you vote right now if you had to and why?

Linki: If you were a named civ role, you would put less of a target on your back by hinting at being a cop. Surely you realize that.

Golden wrote: My point is that a cop would have zero reason to intentionally design that sentence in a very specific way.

Why?[/quote]
Because you, with a cop being the last civ role that you can basically be, would have no need to hide that fact.

Golden wrote:

Typhoony wrote:

Golden wrote:I don't think Matt is bad.

I don't think bubbles is bad. If Glorf had come back bad I would have.

I don't understand your thought process regarding Bubble and Glorfindel.
You had been hesitant about Glorfindel before, then Bubbles came in with her drive by post, then you thought there could be a connection there but preferred to lynch Bubbles because Glorfindel actually contributed, and now you're back to where you were before.
It seems like a lazy way to make us think you are trying to evolve your thoughts based on happenings in the thread but you just wound up at the same point you were at before.
You seemed to not give a damn who was lynched yesterday and that to me is not civ Golden.

It's not hard to understand. Glorfindel was good. Therefore Bubbles did not save him. Therefore, given bubbles conforms to her normal civ behaviour, I see no reason to see her as bad.

Why is this a 'lazy way' to evolve my thoughts? At least they are evolving. As far as I can tell your thoughts haven't evolved in days. I'm the only person I know you suspect.

Key word being "trying". "Trying to evolve your thoughts". Ie you are making it look like your thoughts are progressing in a natural way but you're not doing that at all.

Golden wrote:

Typhoony wrote:I don't understand this either. You've basically claimed you have people in mind for almost all named civ roles, so saying you are a cop should really be the same thing as saying you are civilian. Either you are a cop or you are not civilian, it is as easy as that. Nobody is asking you to claim a cop # Golden.
That, coupled with your very careful wording of not having targeted a baddie (why would a cop put that there? They don't have to target anyone) makes me think you are not a cop either, which really only leaves either inmate or bad. Either way, I'm fine with voting you.

I must have answered this over and over and over and over again. My careful wording was very carefully intended to include both targetting and non-targetting roles.

Mac designed a sentence I 'could have said' which would have made it CLEAR I was a non-targetting role.
In return, I designed a sentence that I 'could have said' which would have made it clear I was a targetting role.

My chosen sentence very intentionally did neither.

My point is that a cop would have zero reason to intentionally design that sentence in a very specific way.

Same for me. No reason given as to why he thinks his top two reads are bad.

Golden wrote:I don't think Matt is bad.

I don't think bubbles is bad. If Glorf had come back bad I would have.

I don't understand your thought process regarding Bubble and Glorfindel.
You had been hesitant about Glorfindel before, then Bubbles came in with her drive by post, then you thought there could be a connection there but preferred to lynch Bubbles because Glorfindel actually contributed, and now you're back to where you were before.
It seems like a lazy way to make us think you are trying to evolve your thoughts based on happenings in the thread but you just wound up at the same point you were at before.
You seemed to not give a damn who was lynched yesterday and that to me is not civ Golden.

Golden wrote:I'm not going to engage in a roleplay based on whether I do or do not have a trackable role. I've made it very clear that not only have I not rolehinted, I will not. Basically, you are forcing me into either claiming cop or not cop my forcing me to either say I would have acted as I have, or I would have acted differently. So no.

I don't understand this either. You've basically claimed you have people in mind for almost all named civ roles, so saying you are a cop should really be the same thing as saying you are civilian. Either you are a cop or you are not civilian, it is as easy as that. Nobody is asking you to claim a cop # Golden.
That, coupled with your very careful wording of not having targeted a baddie (why would a cop put that there? They don't have to target anyone) makes me think you are not a cop either, which really only leaves either inmate or bad. Either way, I'm fine with voting you.

I see my name has been brought up multiple times. If anyone has something they want me to respond to (or something that I have not yet responded to), that would be great.

Matt wrote:ISOing Typh...

He lightly sussed Nero early on for his Arkham vote at the beginning of the game (and something to do with the Riddler), but let it go once we found out there was no trap at Arkham. Did not vote for Nero Day 2, but voted for MP.

The day Floyd was lynched, Typh makes a simple post "voted floyd" after not mentioning him once all game previous. Though to be fair, Typh did say once or twice before that vote that he had no problem voting off the no shows.

Neither time did Typh give a RIH or a cheer for getting rid of baddies after each flip. Dunno if he's a "cheer" kind of guy, tho.

Thoughts?

Is this directed at me or at the general populace of the thread?
I almost never cheer or say RIP after lynches.

Even though I do agree that Bubbles' post was shady as fuck, I'm not immediately interested in lynching her. Now, If people think it's a save attempt for Glorfindel, then why not vote Glorfindel to see if that makes sense?

You've got my eye now, DF. Genuine is not what I would call your suspicion of Bullz/me, seemed more like you wanted to generate some content and then realized that the reason for your suspicions made no sense since you're doing worse in that regard.

Glorfindel, I think you are a really cool person, but I do think you are bad so I'm voting you.

Also, I will not have a lot of time the upcoming weekend, so expect even less from me :P

"Ey Typh I'm not looking at you because of your voting record. Nah, I'm looking at you because of this Mac vote you made during the sabie lynch".
Yeah that sure does look like you're suspecting me because of my voting record df, so don't give me that bs. Good thing that you made all these throwaway votes during the baddie lynches huh?
Made the 3rd vote on Sig when Nero already had 6, put the 2nd vote on sprit when sabie already had 5, 2nd vote on sprit again when Floyd had 5. All in all you probably have the worst voting record in this game.

Ehm, my voting record beats yours DF.
Not only have you not voted for a baddie, you have only voted civs. You have voted Scotty, sig, MP and sprityo. Given that, talking about voting records may not be the best look for you. Maybe focus on posts, see what you can find. And I'm looking forward to your findings!

Glorfindel wrote: Sorry, Typh - that last remark was not intended as a criticism of you at all - just a general observation.

Even though I appreciate the thought, I did not take it this way my friend.

Glorfindel wrote:@ Typh...

May I please have your thoughts on the following?

1. Early Day 7 you asked this:

Typhoony wrote:Can someone point out the differences for me between Glorfindels Star Wars game and this game (or point me to a post where someone already does)?

As I recall, no one answered you (they're not answering me when I ask, I don't know why you'd think anyone would answer your question) so you went on a fishing expedition yourself that led you to the following conclusion?:

Typhoony wrote:Glor seems to be more like his Star Wars game from the very little I've read.

Seeing as no one has actually come up with any semblance of evidence to support this case, could you please enlighten me to what you saw that specifically led you to this conclusion?

Not entirely true, Juliets read through your posts of both games and commented on it.
You seem to be posting more like Star Wars from Pikmin. Granted, I'm more familiar with your pikmin game and only briefly read all your posts in Star Wars, but that is the conclusion I drew. Maybe if I have more time I can find some examples of what I mean.

Golden wrote:Your logic for why I'm not a cop is as bad as Enriques was on day zero.

After all these days and multiple baddie lynches, I would think that the Cops would have no trouble with lynching someone they thought was an Inmate, but you do.

Each named civvie role has basically been accounted for with you Golden. Now, does that mean you are claiming Renee Montoya?

You have shown in the thread that you have roles in mind for Batman, Alfred, Robin, Gordon and Harvery Bullock. Guess who's left... Renee Montoya. Maybe you could be one of the cops, but you've not shown any interest in lynching the Inmates, even though you believe Glorfindel is one. All that's left for me to conclude is that you are either Renee Montoya or not civ at all... and I would guess the latter.

Eh maybe you should try my approach next time. Not the one under major suspicion atm. You are though, probably because your gameplay this game is similar to your baddie gameplay. Gameplay from me this game is not. Maybe, probably even, people have noticed that. And that's why none of the major powerhouses as you describe it really suspect me.

Wow TH stop spreading false info

Glorfindel wrote:

Typhoony wrote:So I vote Golden and his teammate Glorfindel starts saying I'm bad.

Indeed, my friend. Golden suspected me earlier in the game but has since expressed reservations about the case against me (assuming one could stretch one's imagination far enough to call it a case) and rightly so. I don't believe that his posts suggest remotely that he is hostile to our cause and I respect him for his judgement. Instead of attacking him for being 'bad' you'd do well to listen to him because from what I've seen so far, his judgements are far more prudent than what I've seen from others in this game.

And you're REALLY suggesting that we're Mafia team mates? In what world precisely is that even a likelihood? That would be the most disingenuous tactic ever employed in a game of Mafia and simply beggars belief.

I dunno if you're teammates. I just think you're both bad, my suspicion of either of you is not linked to the other.

Maybe the thing Golden himself posted about him being on Nero/Floyds team is correct, so it's possible you two are not teammates.

Golden wrote: And I'd stop and think before calling me glorfindel's teammate again because it's stupid. You say 'would you never do something different'. Well, I'd never do something that stupid. You, Typh... both of you have seen me constantly defend people when I'm civ where I don't know their roles. Think of sig in World Reborn, for instance. I put my own butt on the line for him.

Not that I don't think you'd defend someone you were very certain about, but I don't know if this is the right example.
From what I remember you met up with Sig pretty early in the game and got to learn his role because of that, ie you did know his role.

I cannot confirm this myself because LC never finished the World Reborn stories he promised (GET TO IT LC ).

This is more a post so that LC starts working on those stories again

Golden wrote: I'm pretty sure Matt is right about glorfindel's role. I think glorfindel was strongly hinting two face. I think if we get it right two face can win with town. I'm defending him no more than Mac or MP, both of whom I also believe I know their role, but they aren't under constant suspicion.

You think he's two face, other people think he's bad.

Doesn't seem like a bad lynch option to me.

So I vote Golden and his teammate Glorfindel starts saying I'm bad.

Looking forward to your case Glorfindel.

MacDougall wrote:Typhoony u bitch vote for me son

Nah bro I'm voting Golden. He bad.

Mac is a nub
Glor seems to be more like his Star Wars game from the very little I've read
Golden is just gut.

Hello nubs.
I am okay with a Mac, Glor or Golden vote from the top of my head.

juliets wrote:

Typhoony wrote:Can someone point out the differences for me between Glorfindels Star Wars game and this game (or point me to a post where someone already does)?

I'm reading his posts over there now but I can't remember if he was good or bad in that game. Which was it?

You took the trouble of going to that thread to read his posts but you're too lazy to look up what role he was?

He was bad.

Can someone point out the differences for me between Glorfindels Star Wars game and this game (or point me to a post where someone already does)?

S~V~S wrote:Based on who was Riddled, I don't think she was the Riddler, it did not match her suspicions, other than possibly Matt? If she had an Indy role, I think she would play it as a civ.

We don't know anything about the Riddler though, so who knows what it's win con is.

Was anyone riddled last night?
I'm wondering if bea could have been the Riddler since I haven't heard anything at all

Do you have any experience with that Bullzeye?

voted floyd

Are you his teammate Enrique?

Can we lynch Golden? He bad yo

MacDougall wrote:

Typhoony wrote:@ Golden: baddie SVS does not vent in the thread. Maybe a little bit, but she would keep most if not all of it in the chat.

So she wouldn't, but she would.

And who's to say she didn't?

Hello I'm Mac and I'm not gonna listen to people who know what they are talking about

Golden wrote:

Typhoony wrote:@ Golden: baddie SVS does not vent in the thread. Maybe a little bit, but she would keep most if not all of it in the chat.

You mean, like, the venting at Mac's role hint?

She vented earlier in the game about something as wel iirc.

@ Golden: baddie SVS does not vent in the thread. Maybe a little bit, but she would keep most if not all of it in the chat.

Golden wrote: I don't see a self-vote as a baddie tell, but she was also fighting for the win of a team full of people who really care about winning, like tranq and Typh, in a team that had every chance of winning till the very end. She was always going to do everything in her power there. What if sabie says 'don't worry about it' and the third person is an absentee or something?

I do take your point, I hadn't seen SVS self-voted, but for me that isn't enough to say 'she definitely isn't bad'.

Eh. I don't think we ever had a realistic chance of winning after the juliets lynch followed by my kill backfiring. You guys came this close to finishing the game with a nearly complete team. We definitely tried to win, and we came closer than I expected, but we always knew the odds were stacked heavily against us. Hell, I remember us talking about trying to make a deal with Dom so that the civvies (mostly you) would not win the game. I'm glad we didn't do that because that would have made us look like gigantic fools

I also think you're overestimating how much I care about winning, but that's a different discussion.

In the end game phase, SVS' motivation had more to do with getting revenge on the people that killed MM. That just happened to be the other bad team.

That being said, I don't see baddie SVS here.