Most recent scum games? I'd like to see if you fake it as scum, or alternatively are the same as scum.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:03 amFence-sitting and flip-flopping is definitely, firmly, squarely my town meta. Dom is right about that. It's just early enough in the game that I mostly just have the starting reads that I may flip-flop on later.boo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:49 am Her fence sitting would feel a lot more in her baddie-meta than her civ-meta, to me Dom. I'm curious for her to weigh in on it herself now though.
Anyways, I just spent far longer on this than I meant to (and I'm aware most of that was far to meta a discussion to be particularly useful, so apologies for those who have no interest in that sort of overall game analysis and just like the skin and bones of a game to chew on, I'll try and focus on the issues at hand tomorrow), have an exam in a few hours and still need to actually sleep. I will be back with plenty of time before the lynch ends though, so shouldn't be an issue.
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- Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:23 am
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- Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:02 am
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I'm a lot like boo in this way actually.
- Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:27 pm
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How many on your team?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:44 pm Hey guys, I was cool just chilling in scum chat making fun of Macdougall for fear killing me last game, but then he said I should play so I’m here now. I’ve got about 20 minutes where I’ll pop my head in and out, hit me with your queries
- Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:10 pm
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Hey, you don't have to defend it to me, I was just rolling with the funny.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:07 pmWhn asking a question to incite dialogue means you're doing a Jay impression lolLong Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:04 pmI could vote for you, but that would be as basic as your Jay impression.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:00 pm The timing of Speedchuck's vote and push on me off the back of LC calling my suspicion of him bullshit feels intentional by Speedchuck. LC will probably vote for me. Then Dunya. Then I will have a wagon on me and be focused on defending myself and get irritated and won't be focused enough to be effective at towning.
Moral to the story. Don't do that. I'd rather fast forward through that please.
- Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:04 pm
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I could vote for you, but that would be as basic as your Jay impression.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:00 pm The timing of Speedchuck's vote and push on me off the back of LC calling my suspicion of him bullshit feels intentional by Speedchuck. LC will probably vote for me. Then Dunya. Then I will have a wagon on me and be focused on defending myself and get irritated and won't be focused enough to be effective at towning.
Moral to the story. Don't do that. I'd rather fast forward through that please.
- Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:02 pm
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That wasn't an invitation for a walk down memory lane.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:37 pmThe GoC where you.... huh.... talked about the setup with the hosts in advance.
- Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:43 pm
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Bullshit.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:42 pmEvery time I read your posts I sense inauthenticity.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:40 pmI don't get it.
- Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:40 pm
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I don't get it.
- Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:25 pm
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The plot thickens!Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:58 pmYes you should. I’ve correctly pegged town Creature on D1 in like four games.
But I didn’t say he was town here.
- Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:59 pm
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- Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:57 pm
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I don't think anyone should be easing up on Creature just because Jack says he's Civ on Day 1. Is that what's happening?
- Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:45 pm
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I don't mind a kingmaker 3p being present in the end. You better hope you treated them right. It's an extra level of game politics, and I think it makes things more interesting. I don't buy into the idea of "optimal survivor play" because each game is a unique organism whose optimal play is defined as it plays out. What works perfectly in one game gets you lynched in another.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:00 pmSurvivor is a bad role.sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:36 amGonna play the culture card here, I like to try to distinguish third party, no point in hunting survivors SKs you should go after. Same with Cult.Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:51 am1.5 years mafia experience, and I havent ever seen someone comming D0 implying that third parties might be survivorish. Lmao, this is scummy af and I dont know how else to judge this random wild assumption.sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:08 pmRej wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:53 pmthe way you imply he third parties being survivorish is worrying mesig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:21 pmI could see that, I don't recall ever playing a Nova game though which does make it a bit more murky.
I'd say 3-4 mafia and two third parties probably with survivorish roles, I don't think the game could support a SK given how small it is and there being role reveals. It's also possible one of the third parties is a mechanism against role claiming, if they're not I'd be wary of the mafia having a role that could punish a player for revealing info/claiming.
I note it down
It's an obvious assumption to make given the player pool.
I just think that you could be harmful (possible third) who tries to downplay the scum/thirds in general in this game.
Thats why I said noteworthy.
It is way too easy to win with, when it loses, it is rarely the fault of the survivor player, optimal survivor play leads to a less interesting game and survivors can easily become kingmakers at endgame, which is against the spirit of the game.
Change my mind.
I've had some of the most fun in games as a 3p survivor, but my taste is obviously for powerful roles , and a beefed-up survivor suits me to a T. You don't need to change your mind to understand another's perspective.
- Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:57 pm
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I do find it difficult to condemn her for her reaction, because I agree with her. That idea of your about check-ins seems to be completely random and nonsensical. I do appreciate its quasi-relevance as a vehicle for promoting spirited and conflicting discussion.sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:34 pmMy main thought is her reaction to my post and less the statistics of when they may check in, if that makes any sense?Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:11 pmWhat if I told you that, statistically, mafia tend to check in earlier?sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:05 pmThis is scummy imo.
My hypothesis is nutella is mafia and at that time her teammates had yet to check in so she was trying to indirectly counter my point.
- Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:11 pm
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What if I told you that, statistically, mafia tend to check in earlier?sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:05 pmThis is scummy imo.
My hypothesis is nutella is mafia and at that time her teammates had yet to check in so she was trying to indirectly counter my point.
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I will get caught up on those soon I hope.
Hi all!