The Syndicate

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:40 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:48 am
Dom wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:29 am Nutella-- why LLD? Why LC??

LC-- why LLD? Why nutella?

LLD-- why nutella? Why LC?
This posts kind of reeks. I don't find it all that genuine, some manufactured triad of callouts that requires no thought, just throws it all at three other players to deal with. Like, where does LLD suspect nutella??

I've stated why I suspect nutella in a couple of posts. LLD because she's so super-sketchy and interesting.

Dom doesn't feel real to me, I believe he's a baddie trying to put in legwork to feign towniness. [VOTE: Dom] aubergine
This is entirely manufactured since you're the topic of debate today. Try harder.

I asked my top suspects to convince me whom to vote for amongst them.

That's funny. I think you're a better topic of debate today.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:01 am3) What convinced Dom to leave his vote on Michelle? How did that progression take place. The post containing his vote for her said "for now" but it ended up being for good. That might help me clear my Dom sus.

It could be a bus. His vote followed the strong Michelle-lynch start from Epi and Sloonei, so he wasn't the one pushing the hardest for Michelle. Then those two voted off and Dom stayed. Perfect bus-without-lynching possibility. Dom didn't really give a lot of reasons for others to vote there, just that Michelle was a common thread in the possibilities, along with a couple of other players. The votes swung back, Dom then had to choose whether to change his vote and risk looking like a teammate, or swallow it and try to look good.

His vote's in the perfect place for a bus. Looks a lot like my style of bussing, actually.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:26 pm Hmmm

LC and LLD probably not w/w?

LC seems compatible with G-man though. Timing of the Dom vote is weird after my G-man vote.

How does no one see what I see in G? His "analysis" is such a waste of space imo. He's not going anywhere with it. And as I keep pointing out, his Michelle vote was not good

Those votes were not related, and if you want to connect me to Gman, then just quote my post where I say I don't want to Lynch him.

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:29 am Nutella-- why LLD? Why LC??

LC-- why LLD? Why nutella?

LLD-- why nutella? Why LC?

This posts kind of reeks. I don't find it all that genuine, some manufactured triad of callouts that requires no thought, just throws it all at three other players to deal with. Like, where does LLD suspect nutella??

I've stated why I suspect nutella in a couple of posts. LLD because she's so super-sketchy and interesting.

Dom doesn't feel real to me, I believe he's a baddie trying to put in legwork to feign towniness. [VOTE: Dom] aubergine

Very similar to my thoughts, which makes sense because we are broooooooooos!

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:38 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:33 am I don't think I'm down with a G-Man lynch at this point.
What's holding you back?

I get the sense he's being given a pass for ....some reason. His content is really not that convincing to me.

His content doesn't convince me he's bad though. I can totally buy that he was too busy to maintain the same quality of content. I don't believe that lynching his teammate would cause him to go into a worse-quality mode... I would think it would light a fire instead.

I don't think I'm down with a G-Man lynch at this point.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:19 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:16 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:07 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:20 am I'm suspicious of her. I didn't like some of her stuff earlier, which I recall posting about, and this recent stuff was sketchy as well, although she is known for "wishy-washiness", so the "could be"s are on track with that. I don't like how she's coming after me.
this is one whole mess of a post
Yeah, but, you're calling me out on this, and is it really a baddie indicator? How does it make me less Civ in your eyes? I don't really see it, oh, my post has unsure ideas and opinions, let's comment on the nature of the post itself. This reaction makes me more suspicious of you.
Idk. I currently suspect G more than you after skimming his iso again. I can see your weird tone coming from a town angle, you just keep pinging me at face value but who knows man, you are often zany.

Is Quin's shtick suspicious? Why should mine be? I feel like being this way. It's not based on my alignment.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:07 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:20 am I'm suspicious of her. I didn't like some of her stuff earlier, which I recall posting about, and this recent stuff was sketchy as well, although she is known for "wishy-washiness", so the "could be"s are on track with that. I don't like how she's coming after me.
this is one whole mess of a post

Yeah, but, you're calling me out on this, and is it really a baddie indicator? How does it make me less Civ in your eyes? I don't really see it, oh, my post has unsure ideas and opinions, let's comment on the nature of the post itself. This reaction makes me more suspicious of you.

I'm suspicious of her. I didn't like some of her stuff earlier, which I recall posting about, and this recent stuff was sketchy as well, although she is known for "wishy-washiness", so the "could be"s are on track with that. I don't like how she's coming after me.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:46 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:44 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:42 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:41 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

I don't believe you believe what you're saying.
I don't know what I believe. LC could be scum, LLD could be scum, I don't feel like there are very many leads to go on here
I find it very strange that you voted LC (who is talking, participating, etc.) for not mentioning Michelle but didn't apply the same thinking to LLD (who is doing very little) and also didn't mention Michelle.

What's your take on Quin?
Well I wasn't really thinking about LLD until she popped in today, but her exchange with Dom was questionable enough that I'd be fine voting for her.

Quin could be scum and I particularly think he is compatible with LC.

I don't feel all that Quinpatible. How am I with him? He's too busy being Australian to make a real effort right now.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:41 pm Talk about toxic. Lmao. LLD don't worry you're an angel

Absolutely, he was pretty evil. Also, we have two of his photographic prints hanging in our bathroom.

I was once caught by a dubious LP member named Aldo for avoidance. I had not mentioned or interacted with a single member of my beleaguered baddie team and he nailed it, I was lynched, and everyone pointed and laughed.

However, I'm not Michelle's teammate.

Long Con
DFaraday
G-Man
Epignosis
Dom
Lady LambdaDelta
nutella
Quin
sabie12

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:13 am
Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:34 am My bottom three are:

LC
Nutella

And then quiz and LLD rotate. LLD is newly there because suddenly being active after a baddie is lynched is sus af.

I’m willing to swallow my pride and let G-Man’s indiscretions against me go.
fuck me dead dom's a bloody crook

What do you think of Dom vs LLD?

Would you take the opposite deal? Lynch Dom first?

It's not really a deal you guys can make. My vote isn't a bargaining chip for you to use.

Ok, this is crazy. Civ apathy is going to lose the game, right?

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:47 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:47 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:23 am G-man self meta is lame so I will let Jack to talk about my meta, I played with him more than with the others, as both alignaments.
What do you think of G-man asking about the metas of new people?
I like it, it shows he wants to solve.

So G-Man looks good here. I would expect Michele to distance a little here, this is more like pocketing.

Mentions sabie a little, no read.

Mentions Quin a little, no read.

Mostly interacting with Sloonei.

Calls out LLD. "Refuses to give her a town read".

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:47 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:09 pm Dom is right I am moving my vote to Michelle right now. She at least popped in to kind of respond to accusations on her but I'm not really feeling she's trying to defend anything that anyone throws her way for suspicions. Her reasoning for suspecting tony wasn't explained well and she doesn't seem to be trying to do so.

Also I'm not sure what to think of the sloonei/epi dynamic. I have been seeing it as epi doesnt really have time to play so he just kinda throws suspicion around and does whatever he feels like because he's not super invested in it.
[VOTE: michelle] aubergine
I see from this post that Sabie has 3 suspects.

Me, because I didn't defend myself.
Not much time ago a silly Michelle asked villager Jackofhearts to not lynch me because I will flip green and so on (MU game).Can you imagine he didn't want to hear about that?
Since then I put lower effort in self defense and I try to not put so much emotion in the game because what I want by playing is to have fun and to keep the game enjoyable.
Again I am sorry I was wrong about Tony. But you don't want to lynch me for wrong read, but because I don't defend like you would like.

Sloonei/Epi are linked in a read I don't understand. Are they suspicious or not?

oops time out
Going to do something irl and continue after, sorry I have few more things to say at this post

More in-depth sabie treatment... Maybe they aren't w/w. I think Michelle wanted to lynch sabie, playing on some other players' suspicions.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:13 am Did someone's teammate get lynched?

Yes, definitely.

Like, I'm playing this one pretty loose and no-fucks-given, but this is just trolling.

I voted for her, and it alerted her.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:21 am Mmm, a four-way tie. That's Long Con's motive.

"Motive". Yup. That's what I've got here. Watch out for the big motive, everyone! One side plz.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:19 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:09 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:57 am Michelle is revealed as bad.

Long Con's reaction is to worry about LLD's activity level.
Or, it was a direct response, post-to-post, of your narrowed-down list of suspects. That's lame of you to say to me. My previous eleven posts also didn't discuss Michelle in relation to living players. The post before them did.

But sure, continue with whatever it is you're trying to do.
You're awfully defensive.

You're peevishly offensive.

Yeah, I'm convinced.

[VOTE: LadyLAMBcHOPUmbrella] aubergine

Slam dunk. Thanks Ep.

I mean like, ok, here's all the posts where LLD and Michelle interacted:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:57 am Michelle is revealed as bad.

Long Con's reaction is to worry about LLD's activity level.

Or, it was a direct response, post-to-post, of your narrowed-down list of suspects. That's lame of you to say to me. My previous eleven posts also didn't discuss Michelle in relation to living players. The post before them did.

But sure, continue with whatever it is you're trying to do.

Maybe LLD is too inactive to be considered? I don't see the votes going her way until much later at this level of activity.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:25 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

DFaraday wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:56 pm I agree with Sloonei’s arguments pertaining to Nutella, she’s not a strong town read for me at this point. I don’t agree on the Sabie town read, since in the absence of other viable lynches it doesn’t strike me as unlikely for two teammates to distance when they’re both on the chopping block.

LC is playing a weird game, but I don’t know if he’d be this cavalier as a baddie (again, I don’t pay much attention to meta).

Let's destroy meta.

Well, it's not like it makes me lock town or anything, if you don't think so then feel free to not think so.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:22 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:36 am I like how that "Hey, don't vote me! We're voting Jack." makes me look, in light of the night 1 Jack kill. Looks townish fo sho.
why does this post exist

Because it's the truth.

Ha ha just kidding. I like to have fun, ya?

I guess I'd better check Dom tonight

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:01 am Long Con and nutella are icky and have cooties.

Circle circle dot dot muthafuckaaa

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:04 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:36 am I like how that "Hey, don't vote me! We're voting Jack." makes me look, in light of the night 1 Jack kill. Looks townish fo sho.
the fuck is this?

It's the truth. Don't you recognize it?

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:48 amt o w n s l i p

Moreso if it were a nightkill...I could easily forget the first lynch as a baddie.

Haaaa I forgot Tony is dead. Classic.

I like how that "Hey, don't vote me! We're voting Jack." makes me look, in light of the night 1 Jack kill. Looks townish fo sho.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:26 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:54 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:50 am [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:24 pm Hey everyone! I hope we're not all acting Australian somehow, because I don't know how to do that and I'd end up going Crocodile Dundee.
Because this is his only post and it’s nothing at all.
Hey, don't vote me! We're voting Jack.
lol I wanted to question your sheeping of me but this is legit, you can have a townread

Is this something really real, or is a baddie nutella going for the LC pocket?

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:16 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:08 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:05 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:30 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:17 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:03 am I believe LC believes what he’s saying much more than I believe Nutella believes what she’s saying. He can gnaw on my pant leg for awhile.
please rephrase your last sentence, I try to understand it.
I’m characterizing LC as a small dog, grabbing my pantleg in his teeth and pulling. He’s “attacking” me but it doesn’t bother me and I’m not going to try to lynch him for it.
i see, you want to make him feel small but worthy ^^
Seems like you TR him for that it's correct?

Going to catch up now
More like “misguided but harmless” and wolves are neither.

Yes, I think LC is town. If Nutella flips wolf, that read strengthens because I don’t think they do all the things they’re doing as teammates.
And here comes the moment when you know more than me about everyone's meta -_-

Skimming the last posts I see in your interactiom with Nutella a logical flow of thoughts. Maybe I am not still used with the site's playstyle but it looks like a fight between two townies.

Michelle puts nutella with Jack as townies. Going for a double-pocket, or doing a thing where nutella looks better?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 5:27 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:17 pm There is so little to pry on here.
Rainbowish from memory:

Me
Jack
Dom
DF
Sloonei
Sabie
LC
G-Man
——————————
Epi
Michelle
Nutella
Sloonei lower than DF in these reads comes as odd for me, Tony never said nothing about DF as town iirc while he had a post comparing me and Sloonei.

And Quin is missing

Lot of reads coming out of nowhere, and his agenda for me is visible.

Looks good on Tony.

The big words were alllll right. I also suspected nutella for her vicious attack on me earlier.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:11 am What is a non-legit civ?

Not me, friend. I am true blue.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:59 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:57 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:43 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:39 pm Hmmm the plot thickens. Jack and tony both felt pretty confidently that nutella was bad and now they both have flipped civ. I've been iffy on nutella from the beginning and am inclined to believe maybe tony and jack were right about her. Putting my vote there for now.[VOTE: nutella] aubergine
Sounds like it was you. [VOTE: sabie] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:20 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:08 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:23 pm I've noticed in past games sometimes the mafia players will focus on rules and gameplay so they're participating but not really having to say any reads. I thought maybe he was trying to appear helpful to town. He also made it a point to say he needed time to read jack and if he gets killed jack probably killed him. He was focusing a lot on jack and I was thinking maybe they could be teammates based on the way I've seen both of them play when mafia in the past. Also you had made a decent case on tony that I felt made sense at the time.

I'll have to look more closely at jack and nutella.
Just noting that sabie also used the "bad guys talk about mechanics" argument against Tony.

Long Con is bad.
I am very willing to revisit this feeling I had D1.

No, absolutely not. I am a legit Civ.

Gotta go to a concert, good lynching to you!

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:24 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:56 pm The top exports of Australia are Iron Ore ($48.2B), Coal Briquettes ($47B), Gold ($29.1B), Petroleum Gas ($20.3B) and Wheat ($4.88B), so I'll keep the sabie vote where it is.

I strongly appreciate the geography lesson. What's the connection with the game though?

Australia!!

HEY I am usually weird??

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:26 pm LC is being weird in a different way than is usual for him imo. I'm baffled.

Just trying something new. I'm Civ at heart.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:02 pm So... Quin/LC w/w anyone?

[VOTE: quin] aubergine what the heck let's see

That's what you use to implicate me? That post??

The top exports of Australia are Iron Ore ($48.2B), Coal Briquettes ($47B), Gold ($29.1B), Petroleum Gas ($20.3B) and Wheat ($4.88B), so I'll keep the sabie vote where it is.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:09 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:49 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:42 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:03 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:33 am
sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:13 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:43 pm

Sounds like it was you. [VOTE: sabie] aubergine
Sounds like what was me? You also had thought jack and tony were potentially bad. I was saying tony and Jack both suspected nutella maybe we should consider they could have been right about her.
You killed Jack in order to frame nutella.
Kind of insulting that you think I'm that dumb. Maybe Im wrong on my read of nutella but if I killed jack why would I be that stupid obvious about it? And what motivation would I have to do so when I probably would have ended up voting jack because I thought he was bad. The only thing I'm bad at this game is reads so far which I'm not the only one.
I think you should try the wine in front of you.
Do you believe Sabie killed Jack for the purpose of framing nutella?
Are you intentionally twisting my words or nah?

I didn't say that.
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:52 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:10 pmLC seems to be putting in little effort this game so I'm not sure about him. I thought he usually did more but maybe that's his usual?
If I am going to put effort in, it's usually mid-game. My early game is not that dense.
Lowkey--

Let's say we dont lynch a baddie today.
Then the baddies are lke 30% of the game.
And we don't the next day?
They're suddenly 50% of the game...

In a small game like this, when does the "middle" happen?

I guess we'll know when we see it.

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