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- Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:34 am
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- Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:41 am
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Awful.
- Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:08 am
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I see you watchers who aren't posting. Nice show, come down for the great show!
- Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:06 am
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Then you'll vote me again. Fuck this. [VOTE:
Colin] aubergine
- Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:05 am
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- Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:58 pm
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- Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:52 pm
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- Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:50 pm
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It's not.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:47 pm LC isn’t the worst vote I guess but I genuinely do not understand why this is better than sloonei
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:41 pm
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I'm in the lead now? Well, that's a mistake.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:08 pm
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Gah, don't make that post! It was destiny that it got eaten. I am not full of it.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:45 pm
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Yes. That's right. That was pretty good.boo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:33 pmPretty sure I remember trying to get you lynched D2.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:39 pm Too many townreads on me too early. Best to shake them off a bit, that's why I was "blurry" on Day 2. I stepped back from the game a bit and made some intentionally suspicious posts. Lemme go find them.
Actually before I get to them, Sloonei brought up this post:
... looking to pin me to a situation where I said "Rej or Drago maybe" before, but went with Drago. 1. I never switched to Drago, I kept my vote on Dom. 2. Dom and Drago were the tied voteleaders at five apiece at that point, while I think Rej just had two. My point is, it wasn't really a Rej-or-Drago situation by then. Less than ten minutes left in the lynch, Rej wasn't a viable option. I spoke about Drago (and not Rej) at that point for that reason.
Anyways, back to where I was like "f this town-read crap, I need to muddy myself.
Let's start with this one (that I haven't seen Sloonei reference):
This is when my radar started pinging a lot, about Sloonei buddying me. So I voted for him, and tried to be a little scummy with my second vote:
... going for an inactive felt like something that should get a rise out of some players. It didn't really, as I recall. So...Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:25 amI don't like it. I think you're buddying me. [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
I'll put the second vote on Zemmi. I don't mind using the second lynch to cut an inactive. [VOTE: Zemmi] aubergine
Even scummier! Where did my boo vote come from?? Had I ever talked about boo before? Come on, people.Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:27 amNah. Why would the Mafia team care about bussing a nonplayer member of their team? That's the easiest bus ever. I'll get on that boo vote. [VOTE: boo] aubergineDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:03 am I'm thinking lynching zemmi is actually a good idea conceptually, now. But the fact so many people seem to be onboard with it is giving me pause.
But still, these unwelcome strong town reads....
I try to play it off. dunya didn't even bite. If she had, I probably would have followed up with some (truthful) thing about how I make the buddying accusation when I'm bad sometimes as well.
Actually, yeah, here we go, Colin DID question my crappy votes a little! I'll spoiler it because I want to include the gif that I really like:
Like, is that what passes for an acceptable answer these days??Spoiler: show
Then comes another one:
Like, COME ON. Who's voting for me right now? Are you even playing this game, that you would vote for me and not even bring ANY of this crap up?
That's pretty much it for that. Do with it what you will, this is my honest play yesterday. You wanna vote me for not voting Rej, fine. Shame on you for not finding ANY of that other stuff suspicious.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:31 pm
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I wasn't really trying to "shake up the game".speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:29 pm Idunno being purposefully scummy to shake up the game seems like something town con would do
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:47 pm
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That's the one I was referencing.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:45 pm Nanook posted some wagonomics thing about Sloonei and Colin I meant to follow up on regarding vote timing. Imma go find that.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:43 pm
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I don't suspect dunya.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:43 pm
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No. NANOOK's post about you made sense to me - "It's also notable that rej didn't vote on either of sloonei or Colin, which would've given him a chance to survive. // All told I think this points towards sloonei being scum--maybe Colin with his meaningless speedchuck vote, but I tend to think sloonei's votes look worse, coupled with rej not voting there."Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:38 pmIs it still just because I was buddying you?Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:36 pmYeah, WIFOM is a possibility. Can't ever deny that. Yes, that "plan" is negated now, I don't want to be the lynch leader and that's how I chose to approach it.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:17 pm RE: Long Con looking bad on purpose, I can buy the philosophy in principle as LC is an old schooler who came up in the days where survival was top priority. It’s believable for him to have an impulse to shake off town reads. I am weighing this as I consider his alignment in this game right now.
However, I have two concerns that are not (and frankly cannot) be covered by this point:
1) WIFOM. Just as town LC could be inclined to deter town reads, I could also see scum LC pulling this as a stunt to confuse or shake suspicion. I must also acknowledge that announcing this plan in this way kind of negates it a little, as we now must either believe him or doubt him. If we believe him then he is an even stronger town read than before, so what was the point?
2) None of the points he raised are related to my suspicion. There are two main points I have against him. The first is that he and Rej did not look great in their interactions with one another. The second is his vote for me, which he seems to be maintaining even after revealing his self-destruct plan.
He remains a suspect, but I an considering this newest development as I weigh my vote.
I have discussed Rej tonight. I think you are bad, so my vote is on you. I think it more today than yesterday.
After that I felt bad about you enough to realize I have already decided you're bad and so now I see how and why baddie Sloonei would act like you... it's not rock-solid by any means. I just believe it.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:36 pm
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Yeah, WIFOM is a possibility. Can't ever deny that. Yes, that "plan" is negated now, I don't want to be the lynch leader and that's how I chose to approach it.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:17 pm RE: Long Con looking bad on purpose, I can buy the philosophy in principle as LC is an old schooler who came up in the days where survival was top priority. It’s believable for him to have an impulse to shake off town reads. I am weighing this as I consider his alignment in this game right now.
However, I have two concerns that are not (and frankly cannot) be covered by this point:
1) WIFOM. Just as town LC could be inclined to deter town reads, I could also see scum LC pulling this as a stunt to confuse or shake suspicion. I must also acknowledge that announcing this plan in this way kind of negates it a little, as we now must either believe him or doubt him. If we believe him then he is an even stronger town read than before, so what was the point?
2) None of the points he raised are related to my suspicion. There are two main points I have against him. The first is that he and Rej did not look great in their interactions with one another. The second is his vote for me, which he seems to be maintaining even after revealing his self-destruct plan.
He remains a suspect, but I an considering this newest development as I weigh my vote.
I have discussed Rej tonight. I think you are bad, so my vote is on you. I think it more today than yesterday.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:14 pm
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- Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:09 pm
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Dude!
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:55 pm
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If I were bad, my Day 1 vote would have certainly been on Rej by the end of the day. Two Civs on the line, and the baddie comfortably a few votes lower? Easiest soft-bus ever. Makes speedchuck a little suspicious to me, but I'd need to see how his Day 2 Rej vote progression really went down.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:46 pm
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Sloonei lost votes. I held off for that long tie to wait-and-see, but now Colin is the other leader. Maybe Colin is bad, I liked the one quote he had in my long post above... he's the only one (?) that questioned my shady votes. I still think Sloonei is the one to lynch today. [VOTE:
Sloonei] aubergine
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:39 pm
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Too many townreads on me too early. Best to shake them off a bit, that's why I was "blurry" on Day 2. I stepped back from the game a bit and made some intentionally suspicious posts. Lemme go find them.
Actually before I get to them, Sloonei brought up this post:
Anyways, back to where I was like "f this town-read crap, I need to muddy myself.
Let's start with this one (that I haven't seen Sloonei reference):
But still, these unwelcome strong town reads....
Actually, yeah, here we go, Colin DID question my crappy votes a little! I'll spoiler it because I want to include the gif that I really like:
Like, is that what passes for an acceptable answer these days??
Then comes another one:
That's pretty much it for that. Do with it what you will, this is my honest play yesterday. You wanna vote me for not voting Rej, fine. Shame on you for not finding ANY of that other stuff suspicious.
Actually before I get to them, Sloonei brought up this post:
... looking to pin me to a situation where I said "Rej or Drago maybe" before, but went with Drago. 1. I never switched to Drago, I kept my vote on Dom. 2. Dom and Drago were the tied voteleaders at five apiece at that point, while I think Rej just had two. My point is, it wasn't really a Rej-or-Drago situation by then. Less than ten minutes left in the lynch, Rej wasn't a viable option. I spoke about Drago (and not Rej) at that point for that reason.
Anyways, back to where I was like "f this town-read crap, I need to muddy myself.
Let's start with this one (that I haven't seen Sloonei reference):
This is when my radar started pinging a lot, about Sloonei buddying me. So I voted for him, and tried to be a little scummy with my second vote:
... going for an inactive felt like something that should get a rise out of some players. It didn't really, as I recall. So...Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:25 amI don't like it. I think you're buddying me. [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergineSloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:17 amI liked the tone of the way you handled the Dom suspicion yesterday. You stated the case, but indicated it was incomplete and not fully satisfying. It was enough for a vote, but you still appeared to be actively developing reads.
I'll put the second vote on Zemmi. I don't mind using the second lynch to cut an inactive. [VOTE: Zemmi] aubergine
Even scummier! Where did my boo vote come from?? Had I ever talked about boo before? Come on, people.Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:27 amNah. Why would the Mafia team care about bussing a nonplayer member of their team? That's the easiest bus ever. I'll get on that boo vote. [VOTE: boo] aubergineDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:03 am I'm thinking lynching zemmi is actually a good idea conceptually, now. But the fact so many people seem to be onboard with it is giving me pause.
But still, these unwelcome strong town reads....
I try to play it off. dunya didn't even bite. If she had, I probably would have followed up with some (truthful) thing about how I make the buddying accusation when I'm bad sometimes as well.
Actually, yeah, here we go, Colin DID question my crappy votes a little! I'll spoiler it because I want to include the gif that I really like:
Spoiler: show
Then comes another one:
Like, COME ON. Who's voting for me right now? Are you even playing this game, that you would vote for me and not even bring ANY of this crap up?
That's pretty much it for that. Do with it what you will, this is my honest play yesterday. You wanna vote me for not voting Rej, fine. Shame on you for not finding ANY of that other stuff suspicious.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:47 pm
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If I were his teammate I probably would have bussed him.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:41 pm
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- Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:36 pm
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Quit voting for me. I didn't vote for Rej, too bad. It happens. I'm civ. Too many civ reads earlier so I tried to look worse, and now no one is even referencing posts where i did that intentionally.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:57 pm
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You're staring to make me hope sig is bad.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:53 pmAnd yet I came to the same conclusion, that sig isn’t worthwhile today, and did it much faster and easier.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:51 pm Btw nanook, sorry if I insulted you during our argument. Not sure if I did, but I'm apologizing just in case.
Though I still think my point is right and that you should have looked at Sig's posts and not just the poll. But I won't waste time with discussion that any further.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:47 pm
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- Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:44 pm
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- Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:42 pm
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Fair enough. sig's point here:Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:35 pmSorry.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:11 pmBut... but I'm not interested in the dick-measuring stuff, I was just asking you a regular Mafia question.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:59 pmShhhhh LC, we are not allowed to consider those things. The poll alone forbids us from looking at Sig's ISO and analysing his logic.
The point is I asked nanook to show me posts suggesting Sig couldn't have bussed Rej, he refused to, so I got mad.
I was on my phone so I didn't want to do it myself. I'll look at Sig's posts myself now.
...is convincing, if true. Maybe if you could find reasons to say that his Rej push was not hard enough, or maybe he was pushing Rej but MORE pushing someone else? Those kinds of bussing techniques, I am familiar with.sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:33 pm I was literally the vote that retied Rej and then helped keep him ahead. I was also active EOD and could've easily switched and saved him, which I didn;t.
It's also important to note that I've been sketchy on Rej and mentioning it since like D0, true I didn't push for him to get lynched but I've not pushed for anyone that hard this game doesn't don't have the time.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:32 pm
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- Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:11 pm
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But... but I'm not interested in the dick-measuring stuff, I was just asking you a regular Mafia question.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:59 pmShhhhh LC, we are not allowed to consider those things. The poll alone forbids us from looking at Sig's ISO and analysing his logic.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:58 pm
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What is it about sig that twists the perception of his vote to a bus? Specifically. Was the timing that bad? Did he try to urge others to vote elsewhere even as he voted?
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:34 pm
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It is notable that Rej is a very very good role, and a terrible bus to make.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:34 pmDon’t know don’t care, if he was scum he could’ve jumped to save rej. He didn’t. Thus, I’m not interested in him today.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:31 pmBut like describe the Sig thing because I think I missed it.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:26 pm Sig also killed mafia when he could’ve saved them.
Seriously what is wrong with you people
Like sure these guys could be mafia, but we have a much more interesting POE to work through
What part of the day did he vote for Rej?
If it was a throwaway vote early when Rej was not in danger I don't give that much meaning.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:33 pm
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Yup. "be account"
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:33 pm
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I might personally be account for the bussing that takes place on this site though.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:29 pmThe Syndicate has a history with bussing so glorious other sites should come here to take notes and learn something. No one busses like we do.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:26 pm Sig also killed mafia when he could’ve saved them.
Seriously what is wrong with you people
Like sure these guys could be mafia, but we have a much more interesting POE to work through
Which is why even in speed's case I give it at least a 30% chance he could have bussed Rej.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:32 pm
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I thought your post was one of the most useful and effective ones i have seen today. I think you implicated Sloonei with it, and Sloon is tied for the most votes.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:04 pm So we’re just going to ignore actually useful info in favor of “reads”? Cool
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:03 pm
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Nanook does not speak for us all.Creature wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:28 pmShould I go back to MIA then?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:26 pmSloonei or Colin or booCreature wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:18 pmWho are the better fish to fry? I'm not one and Sloonei I'm already votingNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:12 pm Why are you so scummy creature, can you not
There are better fish to fry today
Your vote is great and all but you need to stop giving off this openly wolfy vibe or people are gonna lose focus
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:02 pm
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Yes I was.Creature wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:41 amWere you wolf in Deception mafia?Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:37 amYou're damn right it does.Creature wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:34 amThe way you played there and here matters though.
What are you looking for from me?
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:37 am
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You're damn right it does.Creature wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:34 amThe way you played there and here matters though.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:33 am
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Your Honour, there has never been Mafia game in the history of this site in which a player's alignment in a previous game had an effect his or her alignment in a current one. I move that this be thrown out.
- Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:23 am
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- Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:02 am
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I think sloonei looks worse than boo in this exchange. I don't see a baddie boo going this dangerously public route. Boo is a civilian here.
- Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:14 pm
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No way, I am exceptionally easy to lynch. Mostly when I'm not around to defend myself.
- Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:37 pm
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- Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:29 pm
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- Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:29 am
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It is the wrong course to take. Why me?
- Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:04 pm
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You mean the wolves would try harder to save him, given his value?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:15 pm Rej flipping that specific role should give us some soft clears yeah? Will look at vote count tomorrow and figure it out but we should be able to start POEing this game imo
- Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:53 am
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I should probably reread the role reveals.