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MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:16 pm @Long Con
Unless there's another 1-shot healer, I want to put you on notice that you may be actually dying from poison.
I don't think there's fake poisons given that I'm 1-shot, though I realize that can also be indicative of having the healing ability split up. I doubt that though because there's, to my knowledge, no way to prevent two healers from accidentally healing the same person on the same day.
I don't remember that, I'll just listen and follow along and pick it up.lost monkey wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:15 pmthat would explain gavial and jay being jail kept?Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:14 pmWhy is that?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:13 pm Okay so the mafia almost certainly did not try to kill me on Night 1, and therefore Gavial's role block on hawkataine looms ever larger.
Why is that?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:13 pm Okay so the mafia almost certainly did not try to kill me on Night 1, and therefore Gavial's role block on hawkataine looms ever larger.
LOL no power roles for your sweet legacy read?Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:47 pm Other things:
If there is an alignment cop, check MacDougall please.
If there is watcher, watch Galvian
If there is a tracker: Track Bad Bunny
If there is a doctor: Protect between Tangy, JJJ and Nanook
That is true. Let's hope that the people voting Owner based on illogic get lucky then.
I am hesitant to try to predict Gavial, as he is one of the most chaotic players I have had the pleasure of playing with.Actvscenei wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 12:25 pmIt’s WIFOM but...If he spent the entire game tunneling someone as scum, would he do that again this game when there are people here who know he did that as scum?Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 12:23 pmGavial was mafia in Fallout and had a role which allowed him to send anonymous communication to a player at night. He used it in a convoluted way that was intended to “clear” him in the eyes of the thread.Actvscenei wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 12:21 pmI think it’s scum-aligned, and I think it’s Gavial. And I think Gavial is making up this Hawk story to take pressure off of Owner, his scum buddy.
Unrelated, but he also spent that whole game aggressively tunneling his teammate. Said teammate eventually won the game at F3.
You could kind of prove a Watcher role by correctly reporting a watch result and having it confirmed.
hawkataine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 10:18 amAlso every time I read LongCon's posts his avatar looks like a dragon but it's not and I'm confused
You get to have a townlock for this beautiful comment."I'll check out that Made vote"... I don't understand why you think that implies I don't know anything about Made? To me, it is synonymous with "I'll lay a vote down on Made", or "I'll join in on the Made voting fun".Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 10:21 amThe link is the post....Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 9:37 amI can't find this post where he claims I acknowledged unawareness.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:23 am@Long ConGuillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:09 am Long Con looks bad here, contributes to Made's wagon close to EoD after acknowledging that he is not aware of what Made was being suspected for.
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 85#p795385
I've posted this three times, I dont remember him addressing it.
And you just replied like this instead of actually addressing it? Why did you vote Made instead of voting Nutella if you didnt know what was the case on Made in the first place?
There was ample evidence against Nutella and you made your vote look like you didnt care who was yeeted, so why not place it on Nutella instead of Made who you didnt know anything about?
Thanks for the recap. If the fruit caused the date, then Owner would have said it was confirmed they received it. [VOTE: Owner] aubergineActvscenei wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 10:07 am @Gavial, can you list all the roles in this game and who completed what action last night phase? If not, you cannot confirm that you are the reason no kill happened. So do more than just say you have a red check on Hawk and that we all need to vote there.
I do not believe Owner’s claim. I agree with Nanook that the thought process doesn’t match up. Owner responded to Seanzie’s question about if she targeted Jay with “I sent fruit to someone, but idk if they got it.” It’s a non answer because it doesn’t directly address whether she targeted Jay. “Someone” could mean anyone. Why not say she sent fruit to Jay at that moment? Why be sneaky about that? If Owner did in fact send fruit to Jay and Gavial, upon the start of D2, and seeing that Jay and Gavial are bedding it up tonight, she would know immediately that it was her doing. Because what are the chances the two lovers are the two she sent fruit to? This is a large game. No way she doesn’t know what her fruit has done. So to answer that question so vaguely is not helpful. The only motive I can see is not wanting to claim BUT she did claim so why equivocate there? There’s no need.
Then, she says the person who she sent fruit to hasn’t claimed receiving fruit. The “person.” Singular. In this post, apparently she sent fruit to only one person. And she doesn’t know whether that one person received it. Well, that’s a lie. She did know because like I said before, she doesn’t enter D1 not knowing that info after seeing the date announcement. But also...why reduce her recipients from two to one?
6484784928474 years later, Owner returns with a fully fleshed claim that contradicts what she previously announced. Now she confirms Jay as a target AND Gavial and she did know they received the fruit, although neither of them are aware of receiving fruit (which I don’t take with too much weight because maybe they wouldn’t know).
This claim does not make sense. The only hold up then is...why would Owner create this elaborate claim without knowing if someone could cc the date mechanic? Maybe...
Owner knows how the date happened. I’ve played a game in which lovers engage and then one dies. (Owner was the torturer, I died). Maybe this date setup is a scum mechanic and Owner knows one of Jay or Gavial will die at the end of the date?? Maybe Owner set up the date as scum or maybe a scum buddy did and is in cahoots with this plan to shield Owner.
Same answer: your block is one possibility of many, and is not a lock.Gavial wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 9:54 amOk but what if another night kill is stopped right after I target someone.
Then what?
There are other likely possibilities. I have my own theories. I'm not going to use future speculation in my theories, especially coming from you, because you look more like you're closing your eyes and yelling rather than rationally playing.
I can't find this post where he claims I acknowledged unawareness.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:23 am@Long ConGuillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:09 am Long Con looks bad here, contributes to Made's wagon close to EoD after acknowledging that he is not aware of what Made was being suspected for.
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 85#p795385
I've posted this three times, I dont remember him addressing it.
I think that it's probably not healthy to assume JJJ was the NK target at this point.Allcrab wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 9:33 amCorrect although JJJ claims not to have gotten fruit.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 9:32 amSo Owner, LoMo, and Crabs all claim to have targeted JJJ? And Crabs and LoMo are claiming the exact same power and results?
So Owner, LoMo, and Crabs all claim to have targeted JJJ? And Crabs and LoMo are claiming the exact same power and results?
Or no one attacked JJJ.Alison wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 9:12 am the other thing is that if you think JJJ is the kill target then from your point of view lomo has to be lying.
three people visited JJJ, one syndicate and two percs. you're one of the percs, so that means the syndicate and the other perc attacked and docced JJJ, respectively, which leaves no room for lomo's visit
No prob, I'm done.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:22 pmI don’t know what else “factional kill modifier” could mean.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:19 pmSo, we're assuming a Factional Kill Modifier is someone who can add flavours to the nightkill? Like, make it strongman, make it janitored, make it untrackable, kind of thing? It's vague to me, but I don't know if we're assuming what it does, or if some players are sure due to experience with the term before. Is it more specific, like "this kill can get through a bulletproof vest, and this one can defeat a doctor?"Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:12 pmYes. nutella.Gavial wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:51 amExactly!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:48 am I think you’re making too many mechanical assumptions Gavial. hawkataine is in the POE anyway and that may be enough for a vote, but let’s remember this is a role madness game.
It’s a role madness game so most certainly mafia can have a way of dealing with Doctor.
I regret engaging with this topic. I’d like to actively avoid all mechanics discussion unless we’re certain it is pertinent. This is not pertinent.
So, we're assuming a Factional Kill Modifier is someone who can add flavours to the nightkill? Like, make it strongman, make it janitored, make it untrackable, kind of thing? It's vague to me, but I don't know if we're assuming what it does, or if some players are sure due to experience with the term before. Is it more specific, like "this kill can get through a bulletproof vest, and this one can defeat a doctor?"Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:12 pmYes. nutella.Gavial wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:51 amExactly!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:48 am I think you’re making too many mechanical assumptions Gavial. hawkataine is in the POE anyway and that may be enough for a vote, but let’s remember this is a role madness game.
It’s a role madness game so most certainly mafia can have a way of dealing with Doctor.
And she voted nutella?lost monkey wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:39 amThere was no way she wouldn't have voted made if she was scum. If made is also scum with bunny and nutella, she would have still voted made because nutella being alive would have been more useful for the scum team with what was happening in the thread.
The whole "one wolf between" thing feels like a wolf tactic to me, to get the named parties to scramble to prove that "It's the other guy then, not me!"MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:08 pmThere is 1 wolf between Jay, Sonny and Tangy. Nutella had more deep and meaningful interactions with Tangy than Jay and Sonny up to this point. She made no effort to defend Jay from me when I tried to push him nor did any kind of "Jay is just town" deflated shit so that means she probably was enjoying him getting pushed and just townreads him here to pocket him. So the mafia between them is probably Sonny.
In the leans I would say that Martin, Hawk and Act are probably not mafia because she would be too conscious of over-elaboration as a tell. There is probably 1 mafia in this list though and it is probably Garden Gnome.
There is probably one between Gavial and Long Con also.
She's clearly town.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:39 pm Should nutella flip town, I would urge the remainder of town to maintain a sense of chill in your mindsets. The overall health of this game thread has been okay, but I do think it could teeter on collapse into stupidity pretty fast if we don't remain mindful of it. If she's town, we'll be okay. Pool heads and work together.
I don't know that nutella is that bad. I haven't read back to the original start of her train, but her posts today seem all right. Frustrated for sure, and you and Sloonei might have a point about her Sloonei OMGUS reasons, but I don't think it's super AI.
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 2:36 pmWelcome to the @Long Con Town Shrine.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 2:34 pm has Long Con always been in the game? I think I missed that.
Where we Warship the Town member called Long Con!
This does seem a little like a fake claim, because if it works then she can shape and mold it in any way she wants. Probably a red check on Night 3 or something to seal her town deal.
I see your point. I'll put a vote there as well. [VOTE: belzy] aubergineGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:21 pmBelzy dipped out when i OMGUS her, ever since then she refers about me and not to me. This was prominent from her scum play in the game i hosted at PerC, where she dipped out after getting some heat and would comeback several hours later when things have gone cold.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:08 pmThese are a couple I'd be interested to hear more about.
It is why im keeping her in my scum list to let her know thst it is not going cold, that it is hot as lava and that I will deathtunnel her if she does not stop referring about me like i am confirmed mafia.
Also i found this comment of hers from post 971 very scummy.
I stated i often catch all scum on Day 1, specially during RVS. She is using that to cast a bad light on me when i said I cant catch them all here. As if anyone can guarantee catching all scum on day 1 every damn time. I feel it's a hollow and ill intended push.Ending with a ''I cant catch them all can I?'' is not so much about whether or not you can... though, funny as you like to catch contradictions, I have one for you: earlier today you've said you usually catch all scum day 1. So what happened with that?
And I have clearly said to you I did ISO you right before I made that previous post, and you dare to say I am not reading?
[VOTE: GUILLOTINE] aubergine cucumber (since aubergine didn't seem to work)
For the record, I asked about Monkey because they're an animal.Allcrab wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:10 pmidk like straight up no way I get through everyone today I did lomo cuz con asked and I'll do the top 3 most suspected people and see where I fall and go from there.bad bunny wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:06 pmwhat do u think of alison and tang?Allcrab wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:05 pm Also finished the ISO not super whelmed by lomo the arguments with nutella (I haven't read nutella yet but I don't super like what I've read from them either which makes this weird) were kinda weak and the rest doesn't give me a strong impression. I will say lomo winds up in people's sights very often they're not wrong when they say that so not too interested in hitting the throttle on them but they remain PoE for me.
I'm starting to dip my toe into this game. The other two games on this site both had attention-taking days yesterday, and I didn't really come in here. Due to circumstances, I should be able to get in here a little more now.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:07 pmIf it matters, this wagon really took shape last night, so we're talking 12-15 hours to the deadline rather than the early portion of the day phase.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:05 pmIt doesn't ping me too much, I feel like I have been in the same position before. Early Day 1 votes are easy to brush off, and mostly don't inform late Day 1 polls.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:03 pm To put it more simply: nutella's reception of votes/suspicion looked like what I'd expect to see inside a mafia chat. Don't worry, these votes won't stand. I have no idea why that's in the game thread, so... "wonky". I won't call it super crazy suspicious, but I am not defending it either.
I like Long Con.
It doesn't ping me too much, I feel like I have been in the same position before. Early Day 1 votes are easy to brush off, and mostly don't inform late Day 1 polls.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:03 pm To put it more simply: nutella's reception of votes/suspicion looked like what I'd expect to see inside a mafia chat. Don't worry, these votes won't stand. I have no idea why that's in the game thread, so... "wonky". I won't call it super crazy suspicious, but I am not defending it either.
Did you interpret their motivations and alignment?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 11:57 amShe received noisy suspicion from two noisy people -- Alison and Mac. Nanook threw his hat in the ring in his typically less noisy way. We have three additional voters up there too (and I think the wagon got up to five? last night). Her response was an emotionless KOOL KUSTOMER thing that I don't think I have ever seen from her before under similar circumstances. She just didn't care, or she put up a front that she didn't care -- and seemed more interested in predicting what her voters would do next (e.g. Mac will move his vote soon) than on interpreting their motivations or alignment.
Wonky, eh? How so?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 11:50 amI really don't know. I have never read nutella particularly well.
On this one I'm kinda following the Mac/Nanook/Alison squad. nutella kinda went wonky last night and I dunno what do with it, so
