The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:37 pm This one's on me

Well, you were one vote away from the hammer anyway. Likely didn't change the game.

DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:38 pm Well y'all also

But I meant town on accidentally sniping me lmfao

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:56 pm I totally get it, Epi. It may not be easy to see for everyone especially from different game cultures, but this is different. There is a clash of philosophy at the core of how one may interpret mechanical data. We know how much bullshitting we have seen here over the years with mechanics, and how they can be used to obfuscate reality. So when they’re closer to an objective reflection of the game, it isn’t obvious unless you have been there before.

Games with very tight alignment ratios must necessarily be heavily mechanical in design, or they cannot be balanced. 8 vs. 3 only works if some information really is 100% solid. That’s just the lesson going forward. Epi isn’t alone here either — LC and I could have easily failed in designing this gambit. Hell, maybe we DID fail, and that can be attributed to our relative inexperience too.

I should have been the one to come forward with the plan that Tony did. I predicted it in our chat, and I should have taken it a step further than just knowing it was going to happen.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:45 pm @Long Con you remain one of the most dangerous players in my world. Been that way for what, 10 years maybe?

Congrats to the Apocalyptic Naysayers!

Thanks, Jules. I do have my moments, now and then.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:04 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:02 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:59 pm what even was LC's plan if he nked epi
Honestly, my plan was for you to second-guess the plan and send it to Epi.
weh. I think you had decent odds if the plan was followed. Epi might've believed a blocked claim

That's what I would have thought, were I in your shoes. The fear that an already-LC-sympathetic Epi would believe you blocked me after Duskfall (the obvious kill choice) died. So I risked that you would try to circumvent that by going off-plan and sending it to Epi.

I tried to kill Epignosis that night... if it had gone through, then we'd be left with Duskfall getting no info from you, and that would be my game. Epi not dying made things more sticky.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:59 pm what even was LC's plan if he nked epi

Honestly, my plan was for you to second-guess the plan and send it to Epi.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:45 pm Long Con my dude I cannot believe it worked.

Brought it home for you again, my friend. Against all odds!

Talking aside from all this weirdness with Tony, one would think that you'd make an announcement when your role finally triggers.

Did your KYLO radar go off, that you claimed was your role?

So it must be... Duskfall!

Your call. I'd rather just end it now.

Tony is outed by virtue of the fact that Epi got the info. I thought we were on the same page here. This is an easy slam dunk, don't complicate things.

If you want to No Lynch and do it again, that's fine.

Ok sorry, I thought the sending was the proof, and th rest was inconsequential.

The game is mechanically solved. You want to No Lynch and try it again?

If Epi gets info, it's from me. If you get info, it's from Tony. Did you get info? Epi did. That was the plan.

I followed the plan, what are you talking about?

It doesn't matter who I sent. The game is over.

You were setting up a fake claim. I was trying to conceal my role. You were acting like that so that you could say the words you just said.

[VOTE: Tony] aubergine

Night 1, I sent nutella's role to Mac.
Night 2, I sent JJJ's role to Dusk.
Night 3, I sent Dusk's role to Epignosis.

What happened, Tony? I figured you had a plan.

I sent Epi Duskfalls role. I don't know what crazy shit you're talkin about.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:41 pm Are there any questions for me before the Night is over?

Do you think you're going to die?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:55 pm somehow this is going to go south and it's probably my fault here

Just stick with the plan, slick.

*I sent JJJ

I didn't plan on saying anything today, either, but Dusk forced the claim.

The less said, the better. That's why I'm still alive. I told Dusk I sent it to JJJ, not the other way around.

It's not foolproof, but it's pretty good.

Duskfall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:39 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:36 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:33 pm Ok so obviously me/epi are confirmed town and there is now wifom to send the other persons role pm to whoever lives and get town auto, good luck role cop sender please carry us to victory
I agree with the first clause you have.

Why would LC be in doubt?
I mean I think tony is the lynch regardless but if I get sent a role pm telling me long con is vanilla I'm lynching him

Fair.

No prob, this one's in the bag.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:18 pm [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

Can we hammer this SOB?

Yes, we can. [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:09 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:03 pm Let's see dem breadcrumbs, Tony Montana.
I mean just go read the thread I practically told Mac that I sent him that role

Weird that you didn't get killed for it then, hmm? I would think the mafia would want that role gone ASAP. Which is why I played dumb about how it worked, to throw you off the trail.

Let's see dem breadcrumbs, Tony Montana.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:10 pm I bet Long Con did send him the role. As I understand it, he doesn't see what the role is. His target does.

That is right, but I'm not the one counterclaiming you.

Nice.... he got NO concert votes last night

What is his real role?

Duskfall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:37 pm Not revealing till role cop claims, this is also my last post until rolecop claims. In the event anyone posts after this without claiming rolecop I'll assume you are not, so town rolecop if you withold your claim the odds are I will end up voting you today and we will lose. There's no reason to withhold here

I sent you JJJ's role last night.

Did you get a scum role or a town role?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:06 am Anyone who tries to kill me fails and becomes my lover instead.

XOXOXO bitch.

Would this be the third lover-style role? Is this game just all about the love? Is this Beatles Mafia, am I lost?

I think we don't have a doctor in this game. RIP nutella.

I think this should probably be more clear after the night is over.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:17 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:06 am I voted for Mac because I thought he was bad. I think there were four votes on Mac, why not pick someone else as "the baddie who was pushing Mac", because it's definitely not me.
Nah. Tony was reasonable in his hesitance on Mac (I don't remember if his vote ended up there, but it's whatever, and I don't care to reassess Epi and Dusk at this time). You were not. You and Jay pushed back to make Mac being bad the dominant narrative over some very valid counterarguments from both Tony and me.

I thought my arguments were also very reasonable, but

. Hindsight is 20/20, I understand why you'd jump to this conclusion, but it's wrong. I am town.

I voted for Mac because I thought he was bad. I think there were four votes on Mac, why not pick someone else as "the baddie who was pushing Mac", because it's definitely not me.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:44 am The mafia are Jay and LC.

I am not mafia.

Actually, I guess you haven't heard, but they're calling sixty-nines 'ninety-sixes' now. You know, 'cause the cost of eating out has gone up.

Nice.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:23 pm I'm pretty clear off DS interactions so that's cool.

Looking at your DS interactions, I get the exact opposite impression. Looks like casual buddy-distancing with DS, along with careless pushes to lynch nutella and leetic. You get awarded no points for "doing the right thing while being watched" on the rolecop, and there's no other player than I have nearly as much suspicion for after reading that ISO. [VOTE: MACDADDY] aubergine

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Duskfall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:47 pm @Duskfall I have no idea what your reads are right now.
Idt you need to rn

Maybe don't make everything into an acronym

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:01 pm I sort of wondered if mac was just a scum rolecop and made up the thing about someone else sending it, but that seems a bit silly (except that rolecop is a common scum role so maybe it's a way to get out of claiming it himself). Still, regardless of where the check came from, I struggle to see the scum motivation in outing me, especially when I have been a common poe suspect/ML bait/in particular a likely eliminatee over Mac himself who is also on the table. I don't know why he'd remove me as an easy mislim in these circumstances if he is scum. Feels like there is only town motivation there. So that's my biggest hangup with Mac being scum. Jiwon is still my top candidate for today.

But he didn't really remove you from mislim. You did that by claiming the role.

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