The Syndicate

I will always be a role-crazy mutha. Obviously I like a LOT of extra pizazz in a game... given the two main multi-game series' I have done are my map games and Recruitment Mafia.

It's not like you guys got stomped. You put us in a LYLO F5, that's as good as it gets. Good game.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:54 pm shoulda hammered myself and we would have won

I do respect that kind of high-insanity play.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:33 pm How many people fulfilled the bizarre roles they were given? Mine was

"that time in a video mafia game I hammered the un-CCed vig at endgame cause he said he was 100% always going to shoot me that night"

which I sorta did to Made, but not quite.

I was "that time I gave someone a role that lost their ability to vote three games in a row"... I guess I could have abstained from voting in order to inanely fulfil my role name?

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:49 pm Maybe the Bastard play here is a straight game.

First to call it?

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:22 pm Oh wow we did it! I'm still amazed!!!

Sorry for almost blowing it

We did it!

I hope speedchuck isn't slam-dunking on my head. Great acting out there, if so. Kudos!

Ok I decided to [VOTE: TSP] aubergine.

RIP Marmot.

So it's up to me, huh?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:34 pm Like examine the interactions between me and Char and try to come to that conclusion. Yes, from mechanics, it appears that Speed,LC,Marmot can't be wolves but that neglects that EOD was insane and it's possible that any of the players who made the votes that they did were unaware of other options.

I will take a look at those interactions.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:00 pm Also, LC and chard did have a chance to last-second switch to TSP and didn't. These are arguments that they are town.

You mean LC and speed, right? I guess chard always had the chance as well.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:57 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:36 pm The only person who's truly cleared in my mind is Marmot, it's easy to imagine Speed or LC missing an opportunity to win, especially given that it was 3/2 char speed and 3/2 char LC at various points in the last few minutes. Everyone who wasn't marmot had at least 2 votes on them in the last 5 minutes
I think you're exaggerating. LC and I were just hopping back and forth between you and Char, mostly. I think you got Marmot to vote me with you for a bit, and I voted LC as a one-off at some point, but that was more like last 3 hours, not last 5 minutes.

This is how I remember it.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:27 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:01 am Potential for mod lies!
The only lie:
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:01 am Possibly bastard!

This is my belief as well.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:37 am Reading over Tony's last posts and looking at votes... I think he still be scum.

First, the votes:

Chardonnay - 3 Voters: speedchuck, TonyStarkPrime, Long Con
TSP - 2 Voters: Marmot, chardonnay

If TSP is town, then myself or LC could have easily won if we were scum by just throwing a vote on him. We were there, and it wasn't that chaotic or one-sided.
That leaves Marmot and, of course, TSP. TSP couldn't have switched like LC and I could, or it'd be too obvious who both scum are. And Marmot stayed on TSP. Ergo, scum is between TSP and Marmot. That I'm sure of.

Then, after narrowing it down, we can look at posts. Marmot's... aren't bad. But he DID have the chance to hammer TSP, and didn't, so that's good. And his opposition to the Chard wagon even when it would be less dangerous to bus char looked pretty good. The 'Char isn't even here!' argument is almost a so-bad-it's-good sort of thing. It's too blatant to be a teammate defense, maybe. And his waffling between me and tsp looks genuinely uncertain I think.

Tony's posts look more like a built-up bus as he realized what was going on. He was quick to link me in with a Char/Speed callout (I recognize that Marmot did something similar, but given that he was completely wrong and less pushy about it it feels less calculated.) Combined with his earlier resignation and his constant pushing toward the easiest target (My relative absence from this game combined with Marmot's refusal to hammer TSP earlier makes me an EZ clap) I think pushed him over the top. Then there's the fake 'Is the game over yet?' stuff. One post of that is okay, maybe, depending. TSP posted that sentiment more than once, in an 'IDK if the game is over or not guys' kinda move.

This may be kinda obvious to everyone but obvious cases are the best kind. If anyone but TSP was the other scum, the game would be over (LC/Speed switch or marmot hammer). GG scumteam if I'm right, scum deserves the win if I'm wrong, and where tf are the bastard mechanics?

Solid. This is the way.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:36 pm ...

I don't know if this makes me look good or bad, but good work everyone and thanks for not listening to me LC.

I think I listened to you and then stopped several times in a few minutes.

Good work out there

I'm going to have a shower. Good luck, and I promise I am not a wolf.

( if the game continues)

Also, the game might be over but the wolves are being cautious with victory dances because of possible bastardry.

If chard dies and is town, then there's 100% something really fishy going on.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:03 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:02 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:01 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:00 pm chard should have cared enough to be here
I dunno if that's the problem
it's a problem for him because he got yeeted.

I hope it's not a problem for the town.
I meant that being in thread at EOD isn't always a viable option.

yeah but 15 hours

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:03 pm no one's claiming victory so

A very good sign.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:02 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:01 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:00 pm I should've just shut up
why?
I just meant bringing up the points about chard and you. If I hadn't this chaos wouldn't have ensued

But maybe the chaos was good? We don't know yet unless you do lol

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:01 pm we should technically all shut up now but there are open nights

no we need to release the pressure

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:01 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:00 pm chard should have cared enough to be here
I dunno if that's the problem

it's a problem for him because he got yeeted.

I hope it's not a problem for the town.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:00 pm I should've just shut up

why?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:00 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:59 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:59 pm speed doesn't care about the chop
He feels like he cares like I do!
what

I mean if you were faking the anguish, it resonated with my own. Is the game over then?

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:59 pmLC NOW!!

sorry man

chard should have cared enough to be here

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:59 pm speed doesn't care about the chop

He feels like he cares like I do!

chard

Chuck, fuck, ok I'm with you then I don't even know

jesus

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:57 pm [VOTE: TSP] aubergine you little butt

Ok then I should move back. [VOTE: tsp] aubergine

[VOTE: chard] aubergine

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:56 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:55 pm no don't vote for me
[VOTE: chuck] aubergine

but whyyyyyyyyyy

This CFD isn't looking too great....

Why chard/speed? Argh, little time for this.

Maybe a wolf chard would have been more sure to keep a clean record? As in, he would have, at least rudimentarily, followed up on his multiple claims to look over my posts?

Because we need all Towns firing at this time.

Chard isn't coming back. What does that mean? I think it looks bad for him.

So at least one of Marmot and speed are town, we can be sure of that or the game would be over.

Forgive the conceit, but I know I'm town, so that makes the only possible teams:

Chard-Tony

Tony-speed

speed-Chard

Chard-Marmot

Tony-Marmot

Chard voted for Tony 15 hours ago and never came back to the thread.

I would switch to chard if that's a preferred yeet.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:22 pm Those are their Day 1 and 2 interactions (or at least from chard's side). Especially those first four:

"Im not interested in LC atm b/c he adores living in PoE as both alignments."

"Also LC i need to look at."

"Ill lookit LC tomorrow."

"LC is an outlier i havent really thought about yet.

TSP and chuck, I see you're both here. Thoughts on this?

I thought chard was a little fakey in that way, with regard to me.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:09 pm @Long Con did you ever claim your role flavor?

No, should I?

I think we're all vanilla with a rando flavour, for the record.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:00 pm You don't seem to have much belief in TSP being scum, which in a LYLO situation doesn't make sense for you to vote there. Or at least I can't think of one.

You are suggesting a Speed = scum and TSP = town situation here?

I'm following while also attending an online Zoom course for my HVAC training, so I'm not as prolific and focused as I'd like. For another hour.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:33 pm I'm busy today, I can't lurk around a slow thread and wait for someone to talk to.

You mean other than Marmot and I?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:33 pm [VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Can you walk me through your decision?

That said, we have to keep playing it straight.

Also... we have not seen any indication of Bastard Hosting yet. So any assumptions could be laughable. Maybe the Bastard play here is a straight game.

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