The Syndicate

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:46 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:37 pm ive had a tinfoil theory that alison and her troopers are literally all just wolves

but i dont think there's any particular reason to believe that's true

out of the "troopers", i am the most interested in sorting out KZA right now. he has flown significantly under the radar and i have not heard any good reasons to village read him

that would be a 5 man wolf team in a multiball game which does'nt seem possible

Currently a three man team, actually.

But if Gerhardt Mafia has three members then the Alison+2 Troopers team doesn't really work.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:37 pm ive had a tinfoil theory that alison and her troopers are literally all just wolves

If we get a couple more villagers killed from the POE, it's going to really start looking like the Game of Champions.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:34 pmyes, but if they disobey the orders don’t they get stripped of their powers?

LOL and who told you that?

Right?

Who are the other two troopers then?

Also, what's wrong with four town troopers with one corrupt cop giving orders? Part of it is that they can disobey the orders, what if that's there BECAUSE Alison is a wolf?

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:06 pm do you really think both wolf teams get a kill every night AND they get an extra vig shot on top of that? so we’re supposed to deal with three villagers dying a night and town has no way to kill wolves at night? that seems ridiculous to me

But two wolf teams killing and one has a one-shot extra kill isn't that crazy.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:03 pm i’m not clearing nook for his claim because he shot a wolf. i’m clearing him for it because wolves have two kills per night and with that much wolf kill power there has to be town kill power too. the game is not balanced otherwise

nook is claiming to be that kp and we currently don’t know of any other possibly villa kp so i assume he has to be a villager until further notice

That makes sense.

Wait, Nanook's in this game was a night vig, my bad. Same point though.

Most of the things spf has said today are very similar to my own views of the game, which increases my belief that she's town.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:54 pm lc, re: nanook -

not exactly. in that game nook had a loyal day vig. in other words he was compelled to target a fellow wolf with it. so he shot a teammate that had already been red checked

Yes, I remember now.

But clearing him for a towny dayvig in this game? Is that wise? It's not dissimilar enough, especially in multiball.

Distrustfall

Nanook - how hard is it, as a wolf with a vig shot, to pick a playe that is a really towny pick, and then claim? Didn't Nanook do exactly that for the win in a big game last year?
Odd - busdrivers can be mafia. popular theory is that troopers can as well
Esooa - she purportedly has a role that could have saved a number of town lives, but she didn't even try to. 3p at best.
Strawhenge - cleared for seeming towny. Gre-e-e-eaat... Nothing to see here Seriously though, is there anything besides his personality that earned the townread?? What. Has. He. Done?
Staypositivefriend - phony townclear earlier. Hally's wolf assessment, to me, earlier today, that I called 'convincing'.
KZA - what clears KZA... being a trooper? What else?
Long Con - guy owes me twenty dollars
Fingersplints - I've been vocal enough about my splints suspicion
JPIC - Having a track don't mean squat to alignment, if it's even true. Did he give his other night results? Probably, I forget
Michelle - meh
Alison - claims town PR with solid reads in the first post, and is still alive. Joseph said to take her out, maybe if she doesn't produce a pelt tomorrow we'll follow his orders
BoKnows - a slot it would be nice to clear either way, very unknown, and that's troubling

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:40 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:31 pm I thought the way spf defended me today was extremely towny. I know that pocketing exists, but why would she at this stage of the game when it would be so very easy to allow me to get eliminated.

because spf is the most townsiding wolf i know. by defending you if you’re a villager she gets cred and can keep you alive to kill later. plus if her teammates weren’t in danger (which they weren’t because alison and falcon were the only two other options) she can freely defend you and get another villager killed (which she did) and look, now you’re pocketed and still alive and people still want to kill you. what has she lost as a wolf by defending you then?

and this is assuming you’re a villager

Assume it.

And that was very convincing.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:30 pm correct, I can neighbourize two people at night

no comment on the claimed BTSC

Isn't the claimed BTSC the same as the neighbourizing ability?

I thought the way spf defended me today was extremely towny. I know that pocketing exists, but why would she at this stage of the game when it would be so very easy to allow me to get eliminated.

Which is why I opened up about my role more, not that there's much more than I have told the thread.

I should add that I thought him picking me for the chat was quite townie, as a wolf would have try to get someone more widely town read.

KZA now knows more details about my role than anyone else mostly because I thought that he was the one that pulled me into the chat, but now I understand it was Alison.

It's-a-me, Mario!

I don't follow. It has been heavily theorized that a trooper may be a wolf, and that hasn't affected anyone's read of Alison.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:33 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:26 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:23 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:36 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:34 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:13 am the red check thinks I'm the only wolf. That is exceedingly rich. Miss "I'm too checked out to care" has all the answers, don't worry everyone.

The orders are real, her role is real

My role is also real. Does this have something to do with alignment?

I believe it 100%, , I noticed that she claimed after me and her claim tagged mine also dragged three other people into it.

I also noticed that she got my ability wrong when I first asked for it. Of course it's an opportunity for scum to say whatever the hell claim you want,, say t's host mixup and there you have it .

So at this point she's using the host to gain mech advantage along with four troopers, second trooper is outed now. It's KZA and she is beyond roped into this Allison thing,

If Alison lies then KZA has backed her up in such a way that only w/w is possible

So now the red check, I bus drove. Claimed it early, and then the stars align again

Now I'm flat out saying the orders are real.





occams razor for me. Michelle was outed cop and a check was tampered with

I believe all that.

Alison may still be a wolf.

It's way too much, her whole world collapses the second the slighest thing goes wrong and she also loses two teammates in the process


Whole thing wolf from the start? Yes, it's possible

I don't understand. Who are the two teammates, you and KZA? What do you mean, from the start? Of course it's from the start, we all have our alignments from the start. How does her world collapse?

BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:26 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:20 am

BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:42 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:34 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:13 am the red check thinks I'm the only wolf. That is exceedingly rich. Miss "I'm too checked out to care" has all the answers, don't worry everyone.

The orders are real, her role is real

pills coming

There's medication for his condition?

godverdomme

gesundheit

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:23 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:36 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:34 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:13 am the red check thinks I'm the only wolf. That is exceedingly rich. Miss "I'm too checked out to care" has all the answers, don't worry everyone.

The orders are real, her role is real

My role is also real. Does this have something to do with alignment?

I believe it 100%, , I noticed that she claimed after me and her claim tagged mine also dragged three other people into it.

I also noticed that she got my ability wrong when I first asked for it. Of course it's an opportunity for scum to say whatever the hell claim you want,, say t's host mixup and there you have it .

So at this point she's using the host to gain mech advantage along with four troopers, second trooper is outed now. It's KZA and she is beyond roped into this Allison thing,

If Alison lies then KZA has backed her up in such a way that only w/w is possible

So now the red check, I bus drove. Claimed it early, and then the stars align again

Now I'm flat out saying the orders are real.





occams razor for me. Michelle was outed cop and a check was tampered with

I believe all that.

Alison may still be a wolf.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:42 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:34 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:13 am the red check thinks I'm the only wolf. That is exceedingly rich. Miss "I'm too checked out to care" has all the answers, don't worry everyone.

The orders are real, her role is real

pills coming

There's medication for his condition?

Or judgment?

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:34 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:13 am the red check thinks I'm the only wolf. That is exceedingly rich. Miss "I'm too checked out to care" has all the answers, don't worry everyone.

The orders are real, her role is real

My role is also real. Does this have something to do with alignment?

the red check thinks I'm the only wolf. That is exceedingly rich. Miss "I'm too checked out to care" has all the answers, don't worry everyone.

We've been successful in two out of four yeets, what kind of spoiled-ass shit is this that people are checked out and acting like we're so hard done by??

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:57 pmOur?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:49 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:47 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:44 pm in retrospect i regret not voting for long con, because i think his flip would have been beneficial even if he was a villager. the falcon villager flip does not give me much at all

No, LCs flip if he is villager would be worse, idk what are you talking about

i disagree, because there was a bit of concerted effort to get long con chopped toward the end of the day - whereas the falcon wagon came out of nowhere (from me) and most of the people on the wagon didn't see to care about their votes

Yeah, but my role is more useful than his.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:45 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:43 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:42 pm i didn’t mean for that to be an indefinite thing lol. i thought i’d be dead by now

If it wasn't all game long then I don't know what agreement you thought you were making.

i included a fine print clause that if i’m still alive on D4 it’s void

Not necessary, you didn't need fine print to get out of it. I am just sad that you don't believe in me. And that I won't sing.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:43 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:42 pm i didn’t mean for that to be an indefinite thing lol. i thought i’d be dead by now

what does this mean?

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:52 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:51 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:48 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:47 pm Don't make me sing it in a video.

do it

In all seriousness: take a leap of faith and towncore me, and I will do it. I PROOOOOOMIIIIIIISSSSSSSSE that it will improve the game's health for the Civilian Faction. Believe me. On the honour of the future video.

deal!

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:42 pm i didn’t mean for that to be an indefinite thing lol. i thought i’d be dead by now

If it wasn't all game long then I don't know what agreement you thought you were making.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:39 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:38 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:35 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:34 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:32 pm if we’re really getting to the point where people are thinking i’m a wolf cfd’ing villagers for no reason and self voting we aren’t winning this game

Idk who is we.

I better sleep '

we as in the village. the team of which i am a member

Villagers are supposed to have honour. Integrity.

what is this supposed to mean

Come on, who are you talking to, you don't know???

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:35 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:34 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:32 pm if we’re really getting to the point where people are thinking i’m a wolf cfd’ing villagers for no reason and self voting we aren’t winning this game

Idk who is we.

I better sleep '

we as in the village. the team of which i am a member

Villagers are supposed to have honour. Integrity.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:26 pm it feels like we just killed a villager for no discernible reason

Would have happened with a Long Con yeet anyway.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:20 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:09 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:07 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:06 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:03 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:02 pm well i kinda doubt falcon will flip wolf but uh

maybe don’t self vote at EoD next time regardless

Wolfy

Yea

michelle i’m a confirmed villager

I don't trust this anymore

it’s not a matter of trust

Yes it is.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:25 pm i genuinely don’t know why falcon just got eliminated. he got five votes out of nowhere for no discernible reason (not including his self vote). the only person who i think expressed an actual reason was spf, who found falcon’s handling of the red check suspicious

why did the other people who voted falcon vote him? i didn’t even realize he was a wagon

Self-preservation, and he could have been a wolf.

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:12 pm God damn it.

Alright, who in the falcon votes are Long Con's scum buddies?

Stop it.

Blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

God, please let falcon be bad.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:58 pm @Long Con legacy?

LOL remember all this next time you play with me.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:58 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:56 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:50 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:47 pm The only reason I'd like to not get voted out today is that I'd love a chance to actually use my role. It's a little cooler than I have even let on [2-shot]. When I got this role I really thought I'd be able to make a difference and catch a wolf.

You claimed you used tracker/watcher already

My 2-shot is a special beyond just a track or watch.

?

Should I type it larger??

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:54 pm how many powers do you guys have? holy cow

Haven't even brought up my Passive yet.

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:51 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:47 pm The only reason I'd like to not get voted out today is that I'd love a chance to actually use my role. It's a little cooler than I have even let on [2-shot]. When I got this role I really thought I'd be able to make a difference and catch a wolf.

First it's a tracker, then it's a watcher, now it's 'a little cooler' than you've let on, and isn't 2-shot?

I'm dizzy.

I'm sure.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:50 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:47 pm The only reason I'd like to not get voted out today is that I'd love a chance to actually use my role. It's a little cooler than I have even let on [2-shot]. When I got this role I really thought I'd be able to make a difference and catch a wolf.

You claimed you used tracker/watcher already

My 2-shot is a special beyond just a track or watch.

The only reason I'd like to not get voted out today is that I'd love a chance to actually use my role. It's a little cooler than I have even let on [2-shot]. When I got this role I really thought I'd be able to make a difference and catch a wolf.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:42 pm I don't understand his self-vote though.

Yeah, it's not like he's the leading wagon even.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:34 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:38 pm No one answers at my question regarding Odd's role who also is not a towny one

I have his role in my role card so yeah I trust his claim.

You have his alignment in your role card now?

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:30 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:23 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:21 pm btw i figured out what probably happened with michelle check. it’s very obvious and i don’t know why i didn’t think of it before

wolves have a redirector. they targeted michelle N2 and redirected her to one of them so that michelle would always get a guilty regardless of who she targeted

mystery solved. you’re welcome

So, Oddmerta then.

no. a redirector is different from a busdriver

Busdriver switches and redirectors are one-way?