The Syndicate

just in WWA's notes, not official

that was an error

It does not say bus driver

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:59 pm ok well, good luck y’all.

Delta, I hope you’re just wolf

I hope we figure out why long con’s action didn’t work

My actions work fine. I'm fit as a fiddle.

She's double-checking her copy of the role.

WWA is reading

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:54 pm delta flips mafia -> poggers

delta flips 3p -> someone needs to claim if they impacted the mech situation. if not, chop scotty. if scotty flips town, we just got screwed by mech that seems beyond our control, either a wild mafia role here or impact from other thread or something bizarre. unless long con mafia. but no way long con mafia. if he's mafia that's insane

If I had this level of funky strategy as mafia, I'd be Lex Luthor.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:49 pm It's not like Scotty + Alexy wolf team is endgaming here, Long Con. Like there is world where they win this if they're both mafia, after you outed your information. I just think there are some worlds where flipping Delta first could be good. I wanna read his flip

Well, the good news is, you're gonna get your wish!

If I die tonight, please honour my contributions.

I thought I would be dying tonight.

And Ilario was Goon.

tutuu, come on, eliminating a wolf is higher priority than eliminating a 3p.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:37 pm I think you do have that role. It's the same as Tony's.
Bus driver chooses two people and everyone who targets A targets B and vice versa. That's a different role. Did either you or WWA use the wrong name?

Yeah, that is correct, but the role flipped as bus driver, apparently.

Unless @Lime Coke and @DarlingMonroe show up, you're home free, Scotty. Especially since @Cape90 didn't seem to care that I very likely just caught the last two wolves.

I believe you. I think you do have that role. It's the same as Tony's.

I just still think you're mafia with that role. Unless I was blocked on night 1, then you and Alexy are both wolves. This is the most likely conclusion from the facts.

Who roleblocked me night 1, and why? Very doubtful.

So... you target PSV, onto DM. That means that whoever targets PSV is now targeting DM?

And block myself? I don't need to create a quantum singularity up in this hizzy.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:11 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:09 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:08 pm I’m protecting Long Con tonite btw
How are you protecting him? You're redirecting a person's action to someone else
I’m not.

But let me ask you this, Long Con: when I said I was gonna protect jack, who was absolutely the right protect, did you BLOCK me?

No, I blocked you night 1, the Jack protect was night 2.

WWA??

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:14 pmi see

So, you wanna eliminate 3p over mafia?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:20 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:16 pm Thoughts from WWA:

tutuu, WWA believes that Delta really is 3p, and doubts that the mafia busdriver had access to both threads. WWA doesn't believe the wolves have a common chat, but do know the whole team's names.
I don't think Delta has access to the other thread. Why wouldn't he tell us TSP's role? He either didn't know it, or he purposefully chose to withhold info from town, despite pleading to survive. In either case, is it not mechanically confirmed he is trying to hurt town (even if he's just a 3p)?

WWA is *from* the other thread, and believes Delta can see it.

Thoughts from WWA:

tutuu, WWA believes that Delta really is 3p, and doubts that the mafia busdriver had access to both threads. WWA doesn't believe the wolves have a common chat, but do know the whole team's names.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:07 pm There are so many cooks this game wtf

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:07 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:06 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:04 pm im going to be so sad if its actually scotty/alexy
Not me!
yeah you'll get a win

I'll get a 'lol 3p' if I'm lucky

Who did you predict today?

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:04 pm im going to be so sad if its actually scotty/alexy

Not me!

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:03 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:02 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:00 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:27 pm Ok, so the wolves are Scotty and Alexy.

I am a 2-shot protector/blocker. I block AND protect a target twice in the game.

When Scotty first said he would protect Jack, I (like probably most) figured it was just to throw a doubt at the Wolves. Y'know. Make 'em question. I responded that I'd protect him as well, to get in on it. As one does. Thought nothing of it.

Then somewhere along the line recently, it became more than a sassyclaim... Scotty really was the doctor! Huh. And then Alexy came in with the Watchery info that Scotty targeted PSV on night 1, and Scotty confirmed it!

Great!

Then I was like... hmmm. Like, I'M the doctor, really... jailkeeper I guess is the actual term, but two real protectors, in the same half of the game?

And THEN I was like, wait a sec - I BLOCKED Scotty on Night 1!

So Alexy is lying about Watching Scotty target PSV, and Scotty is lying when he confirmed it!
man you're literally waving the false hope of survival in my face I hope you know that ;_;
Guess you wanna be voting Scotty then!
you're taunting me at this point ;_;

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

tutuu's the one out for your blood. I'd rather test the Scotty-Alexy waters, and who knows? Maybe the other side will get their act together and the wolves will be all eliminated and you can get survival!

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:00 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:27 pm Ok, so the wolves are Scotty and Alexy.

I am a 2-shot protector/blocker. I block AND protect a target twice in the game.

When Scotty first said he would protect Jack, I (like probably most) figured it was just to throw a doubt at the Wolves. Y'know. Make 'em question. I responded that I'd protect him as well, to get in on it. As one does. Thought nothing of it.

Then somewhere along the line recently, it became more than a sassyclaim... Scotty really was the doctor! Huh. And then Alexy came in with the Watchery info that Scotty targeted PSV on night 1, and Scotty confirmed it!

Great!

Then I was like... hmmm. Like, I'M the doctor, really... jailkeeper I guess is the actual term, but two real protectors, in the same half of the game?

And THEN I was like, wait a sec - I BLOCKED Scotty on Night 1!

So Alexy is lying about Watching Scotty target PSV, and Scotty is lying when he confirmed it!
man you're literally waving the false hope of survival in my face I hope you know that ;_;

Guess you wanna be voting Scotty then!

It's a great thing

But DELTA! Forget that stuff, do you like my thing?!

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:57 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:53 pm Delta is 100% anti-town

THE LITTLE FUCKER DIDN'T TELL US TSP WAS BUS DRIVER
I CAN ONLY DISCLOSE ALIGNMENTS ;O;

How

Convenient

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:56 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:42 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:32 pm What is your win con? What can you tell us about the other thread?
wincon is either predict vote stuff correctly or survive to see this thread resolve. former breaks down into stuff about alignment/player/both, latter is self explanatory

the other thread is in a similar boat to us, they're just staggered by 24h. so far, robyn has been town, tsp has been mafia. i think the alignments of two bound players are linked?
LOOK AT HIM. It costed him nothing to give us TSP's role. This guy is evil

We should have asked.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:53 pm I'll be around all evening. [VOTE: scotty] aubergine Sorry, tutuu, just need to plant one flag.
No need to apologize you're just playing your best. I am too

We still have same-same goals. And they can be reached through either path.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:53 pm Delta is 100% anti-town

THE LITTLE FUCKER DIDN'T TELL US TSP WAS BUS DRIVER

WWA says you have a point. I concur.

I know @potentialsheltervet wants a bite of this.

I'll be around all evening. [VOTE: scotty] aubergine Sorry, tutuu, just need to plant one flag.

Let's see who else shows up, and take it as it comes. Delta can still go today, but I'd love to swing it to Scotty.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:46 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:07 pm TonyStarkPrime was the wolf team's bus driver, while Ilario was just a Goon.
BUS DRIVER

WHAT

Wait Long Con what if there's a bus driver here too, and you didn't roleblock Scotty?

Possible, but I certainly couldn't keep this quiet on that slim chance.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:44 pm GUYS WHAT'S HAPPENING

That's happening.

Ok, so the wolves are Scotty and Alexy.

I am a 2-shot protector/blocker. I block AND protect a target twice in the game.

When Scotty first said he would protect Jack, I (like probably most) figured it was just to throw a doubt at the Wolves. Y'know. Make 'em question. I responded that I'd protect him as well, to get in on it. As one does. Thought nothing of it.

Then somewhere along the line recently, it became more than a sassyclaim... Scotty really was the doctor! Huh. And then Alexy came in with the Watchery info that Scotty targeted PSV on night 1, and Scotty confirmed it!

Great!

Then I was like... hmmm. Like, I'M the doctor, really... jailkeeper I guess is the actual term, but two real protectors, in the same half of the game?

And THEN I was like, wait a sec - I BLOCKED Scotty on Night 1!

So Alexy is lying about Watching Scotty target PSV, and Scotty is lying when he confirmed it!

@potentialsheltervet WWA and I have determined that your counterpart is likely rondo.

Extra votes seem to come from top wagons on the opposite side. Ilario-TSP, Long Con-WWA, PSV-Rondo.... TSP, WWA, and Rondo got the extra vote.

TonyStarkPrime was the wolf team's bus driver, while Ilario was just a Goon.

Yes, she hasn't shown up in the chat yet. So let's just give it some time.

Also BOOM Scotty... would a 3p have an Other from the flipside thread? Ahhhh yeah

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:54 pm I'm not feeling moved to get off of Delta. While the idea of winning by guessing people's role and aff is very cool, I don't really believe the claim. And he looks quite paired with ilario too, so...

Yes. Also, I'm not very suspicious of tutuu. I don't know yet if the Wilgy case is accurate or not, but I'm not ready today to pull the trigger on that. Scotty might be all right, but there are a couple of red flags.

And then who? Alexy? I don't think there's a taste for it yet, but probably soon if we don't get the right results. Lime Coke? Same boat. Cape? Seemed like a close friend of Ilario's maybe, and all the interaction is then hard to judge.

So yeah, I guess we're just gonna go with Delta?

Oh my god, guys! WindwardAway is my Other, and is now ghost-haunting us a la robyn. I have BTSC with WWA, and I'm not supposed to do too much copy-paste or "Windward Says" stuff, but I can make it happen to a reasonable degree.

Why is Alexy town?

That IS an egregious, and surface-level needless, bus on a teammate. He never even got cred for it either, since Guillo never died!

@DrWilgy this situation does seem almost identical.

And I have been busy all day, I'm finally gonna look into the Wilgy case right now.

If someone claims 3p, there is always a faction in the thread that promotes eliminating them, and they often get their wish. Those who have been burned by a phony-friendly 3p in the past. I know I have been.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:05 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:04 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:03 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:00 pm I make a guess for each thread before daystart

3 exact guesses, win
5 alignment guesses right in 6, win
3 consecutive player guesses, win

I guess this makes more sense to give you more outs.

So theoretically, you could have won at the end of our d2 if you had guessed everything correctly by that point?

Do you fly away into the trees if you win or
yep, if I win I leave early
cant solo win
Oh, I thought you said you’d be a survivor if you don’t fulfill your other

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