The Syndicate

Yay! Congrats!

thellama73 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I really do want to know how I died, if the Chief did not switch it to me. Who reads me that badly?

The cook subtracted two votes from Blooper, and Blooper had votes subtracted for winning the posting contest as well, leaving you with the most votes.

Wait, posting contest aside, I thought you told me I was blocked after that night?

G'bye everybody!

This is how I've felt all game:

Mongoose wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:^wb and seeya next game! lol

Wait, am I dead?

No no not at all!

I will be shortly, but you're fine.

Matahari wrote:

This goes in conjunction with the other thing I mentioned: If he's using up that one-time +2, game-changing kinda vote manipulation, don't you think he'd want to be around to see it play out and vote if need be?

Are we talking about you or MP, or who? You've lost me somewhere. Are we talking about me thinking temporarily that MP was the cook? Are you trying to get me to re-look at my assumptions on who is who?

You must spell things out for me, because I am slow on the uptake-

I was talking about you thinking temporarily that MP was the cook. Sorry.

Moot point now. If everyone voted we could have ended this ahead of time. I have no means to survive this lynch that I know of. But I'ma enjoy my time left here because I was really getting into this game.

Feel better!

Matahari wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:Not to mention, the Cook can only use the +2 votes once a game, using it on Nijii when he had no way of knowing ahead of time that she would be within 2 votes of him and that he'd be in danger would be wasteful and some pretty impressive luck.

The way the role description sounds to me, the cook has to send in a name the night before. Maybe I'm not comprehending it properly?

Correct. But how would he even think that Nijii would wind up with Bass's vote and he'd wind up with a cluster on him.

This goes in conjunction with the other thing I mentioned: If he's using up that one-time +2, game-changing kinda vote manipulation, don't you think he'd want to be around to see it play out and vote if need be?

I would.

Not to mention, the Cook can only use the +2 votes once a game, using it on Nijii when he had no way of knowing ahead of time that she would be within 2 votes of him and that he'd be in danger would be wasteful and some pretty impressive luck.

Matahari wrote:After his save during the lynch where Blooper had more votes, he did some explaining- during some of his posts he basically pointed out that he was not the chief, so I assumed he was the cook and had put more votes on someone. Later after finding out he was a male role, I reread him (starting with that lynch) and realized he said some other things too, that pointed to him being someone else. I'm making assumptions, I guess, because its very hard to know anything with 100% confidence.

So he would have had to put the additional votes on Nijii, not vote at all (when he could have saved himself), and potentially bank on a coin-flip saving his life?

There were not 2 swapped lynches. I'm pretty sure I know how the other one happened.

Well, Bass mentioned he switched the lynch from me to Blooper, so the one on D2 where Blooper had 4 votes and S~V~S had 2 was the other "switch" I was referring to.

At least I was PRETTY sure why that one happened. I suppose I could be wrong.

He'd be sure-er than that if he was hinting at the Cook. So I hope he wasn't hinting at the Cook.


linki: If you're asking me that, the answer is no. My reason to doubt him comes from 2 mis-lynches, a survival, and 2 rezzes not adding up, with 2 unrevealed roles being dead and knowing that one role 100% did not change the outcome of either mis-lynch.

I don't remember him ever hinting at that so I'm curious what led you to speculate on it?

Matahari wrote:So, Wadsworth gets to kill every night now? Or was my count off?

MP is not the role I thought he was, because he's a male role (I had forgotten that). Back to the drawing board.

What role did you think? And what conclusion did you reach from your insta-spreadsheet?

Also really amused that nobody revisited your Wadsworth observation. The "there won't be a kill the night a dead baddie would kill" theory was something I disagreed with vocally and early on. If it's not true, it completely invalidates the way some players have been narrowing down their suspects.

Well while I wait to die please enjoy this .gif and others if I feel so inclined:

I hope everyone else keeps in mind that Bass has not brought up a solution to why SVS was lynched instead of Nijii that jives with my understanding of the game so far. Nobody really has, but if he really switched the following day's lynch (MP to Nijii), then I have a very big unsolved mystery when it comes to SVS's death.

Matahari wrote:I made a slaphazard s.s., which leaves me with 3 ? marks, assuming certain players have been truthful. MR is a ?, Bass is an assumption of honesty. I should go ahead and vote, but I'm going to wait a bit longer.

Well that's unfortunate and I guess I'm out of the loop when it comes to why everyone seems to be making that assumption with Bass.

Matahari wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:SVS was The Motorist?! I miswrote her in my notes holy shit.

My entire reason I thought I could trust Epi all of a sudden was based on a stupid mistake I made.

Any possibility that you could say who you thought SVS was?

The telegrammer.

Sorry for my frustration last night. I've had a stressful week. Probably should have waited to vote instead of needing everyone else to join me on Bass action if I want to survive. Banking a 50/50 shot on him either being Boddy or the Chief is a lot to ask of people. But if he is the Chief, he's already outlived his usefulness anyways. I assure any other civs out there, I have not (entirely, lol).

SVS was The Motorist?! I miswrote her in my notes holy shit.

My entire reason I thought I could trust Epi all of a sudden was based on a stupid mistake I made.

So I thought there were more votes on me...

Wow, just like when I went away for a moment in Monty Python. Seriously guys?

I was so damn close. Epi, you said you were shooting for your first civvie win on TS. This could have been my first win ever here, and I was hoping we could share that. I answered every ridiculous matter of semantics that was brought against me for simply participating while Bass shrugged off all your suspicions nonchalantly. I in no way thought I was in danger of being lynched this time around. Totally baffled, especially with another 24 hours left.

Good luck to Wadsworth; whoever you are you fooled me at least.

Or no hard feelings good luck everyone as usual and lovely game Llama. I really enjoyed it and you are a wonderful host.

The world is very lovely, and it's very horrible - and it doesn't care about your life or mine or anything else.

I trust Epi immensely. Mongoose, possibly. Not sure who else... :/

Epignosis wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:Well now I have a lead Boddy suspect, at least.

Yes? Do tell. Because I have one fewer.

Bass is still the frontrunner for me. It's possible that the Chief was among Eloh/Canuck, but I'm still hesitant what with the possibility that there were prizes to influence previous mis-lynches.

I'm unsure of Mata, but Boddy was around enough to blackmail SVS, right? Idk about any Boddy blackmail other than that or MP.

Well now I have a lead Boddy suspect, at least.

On the downside, Wadsworth is still alive so I was wrong about Canuck.

Hmm, okay.

Conversely, Nijii to SVS almost positively had to be a switch in my eyes. The one I wasn't sure about is the one you survived. Then again, prizes of some sort could have factored in. It by no means condemns Bass in a de-facto way.

Yeah, no prob and sorry. Which lynch was the "other one" you referred to?

MovingPictures07 wrote:There were not 2 swapped lynches. I'm pretty sure I know how the other one happened.

2 "mis-lynches" may seem like a better description.

MP: Would you mind if I asked which you feel differently about? If not, it's okay.

The lack of response to Bass's claim is odd. I can't stop thinking about how there were 2 swapped lynches, but only 1 of those makes sense based on what I know.

It can't be Bass now? Did I miss something?

Thank you to Epi and Mata for your concern. Much love to you all.

Epi: I appreciated your breakdown of Boddy suspects. It has me seeing clearer when it comes to my thoughts on you and Bass. I feel more inclined to trust you, and I know you expressed understanding as to why your escape from death was pinging me. I believe my other moment of fear came leading up to SVS's death.

I will vote for Bass as well. Mata talked about waiting to see a case on Bass, but factor in the low amount of participation in this game. I don't see any other options. I know who I am and I'm not Boddy. I have felt better about Epi than I did at the start of the game. If Bass is Boddy, we'll need to spend 2 lynches trying to bring him down. If Epi is, we'll need an additional 1. I, on the other hand, won't survive any lynches.

I wasn't sure if I was going to be back in one day. I thought about calling up sabie (as we're friends irl) and having her contact Llama for me to get a replacement if I had to. Fortunately, I'm here. Normally, I'd pull out and go on hiatus anyways, but that's the old me. I'm invested in this game and sticking it out.

Linki: I hope you don't think not being lynched is going to prove a point.

Sorry to be absent today. I spent last night in the hospital.

I hope I get a chance to respond to Epi tomorrow.

I completely understand his qualms though. I fully admit that I was rushing and quite lazy with the post he's discussing. I'm torn between him and Bass being my Boddy candidates right now. I hope to discuss things in a more detailed manner tomorrow, since I'll have the day off.

And if I die, oh well. :/

Candlestick...Truly the pinnacle of high-tech weaponry.

I humbly accept this righteous tool of destruction and may all who oppose me fall beneath it's mighty candle-y-ness, as well as it's stickness.

I'll vote Hedge as well. Canuck was my go to, so now I need time to regroup. :/

I have a few in mind as well...

That was somewhat glorious.

I played with Hedge in The Island and she wasn't all that eager to toss any teammate under the bus, but like Epi said, she voted for sabie at the tail end.

Hoping Canuck was the captain who went down with the kill-ship, at least! She could fit the Day 1 killer's bill.

I am sorry to hear about your current irl crisis though, Canucklehead. Hope you're okay!

Well that blows.

Ebwop: Usually, I like to night-hide. But I felt it necessary to address the past 2 days as they don't make sense to me and something seems off.

Linki: And welcome iyag, Vomps!

MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, think very clearly about the fact that I survived that lynch when I was two votes ahead. Think VERY carefully about the fact that there are no "secrets" by baddies and READ THE CIVVIE ROLES and think about how I've been voting. Enough said.

You didn't vote at all yesterday...

And I'm still very lost as to how SVS died on Day 2, tbh. I don't think enough is said.

Welcome Mata, iyag!

I disagree, but I understand your reason for voting him. And I didn't get to play Hobbit; I hope you're right.

Epignosis wrote:Only four people have voted. That means only four people get to use their night actions (including kill).

I plan on voting, by the way. I would like you to vote as well, because I don't think you are bad.

Don't kill me!

Ebwop: I guess that's not something I should complain about though, given my track record with participation and hiatuses. >.<

So now we have a vote spread 4 ways among 12 players. 2 are likely to not return to vote since they've dropped out. 2-3 more are hit/miss with participation so may not vote.

Hopefully the other 2 killers are among those 5, otherwise, this lynch seems quite destined for failure. :/

I'll put my faith in a Canuck vote again. I wish she were here to partake in debate, but that's where my hunch comes from. Crossing fingers!

*votes Canuck*

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Im going to go ahead and vote ninja blooper.

I can't get my head around why she would put a 3rd vote on sabie Day 1 and break the tie if she were her teammate?

Like, maybe she's the Night 1 killer and needed to participate to guarantee her night action...and was also in a rush. But that's a lot of maybes.

Well then... :/ Hope you come back for another game, kp!

So I'm looking at Canuck and Kev right now.

Kev has 1 post for the entire game. Canuck has been around enough to kill, but not enough to formulate a plan before/when sabie got in trouble imo. So I'm still leaning Canuck.

Epignosis wrote: Making my roux for my chili (yeah, I AM making a roux for a chicken white chili).

Will it be...





...bulletproof?

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Sounds good. Yeah, I've been distracted by PhD work since I spent Friday goofing off mafiaing most of the day, but I'll make some time before the poll ends to concentrate fully on this game and maybe re-read some folks (shouldn't take long anyway, I would think).

I look forward to your thoughts.

Believe it or not, I made a goddamned spreadsheet. This IS Clue.

Shouldn't you have made a game board then?

Sidenote: I'm actually in the process of making a game board irl. It's not a particularly sane project to take on if you're not into measuring and cutting precise lines (which I'm not...).

Ftr: My opinion about Epi possibly being bad have to do with his survival, and the way he's interacted with certain parties whose votes seemed like they could have been forced.