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I'm still baffled by your complete ignorance of the situation.thellama73 wrote:I'm still baffled as to why people are listening to the two known death gods.
Other than it allowing for two nights in a row, it doesn't serve his cause. I think it's a bluff, or an act. I seriously doubt Mikami will kill himself today. I'd love for him to prove me wrong thoughFZ. wrote:How would that serve his cause?DharmaHelper wrote:He wants Mikami to kill himself and stop the lynch. Or he wants us to think he wants Mikami to kill himself and stop the lynch.
I'm not 100% convinced about Bass yet. I would really like to hear his response to all the suspicion that has been piling up on him. So if you're not convinced about him being bad yet, vote for me instead.FZ. wrote:Believe me, I'm trying the best I can, and I actually do feel like you're doing that too. I also agree that the civvies don't try as hard. Pfft, they're even saying that if I were a detective, I wouldn't try as hard to avoid a lynch. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. So, since I do want to listen to you, what do you think is better, voting for you or for Bass? On one hand, I don't think you'll get enough votes. On the other hand, Bass' RL issues make me fear that maybe we'll be lynching him wrongfully, though he really isn't doing anything that could be considered helpful. Still, if he's not bad, we need him even for the numbers. How sold are you on him being bad?Turnip Head wrote:I don't know FZ, maybe the fact that he's specifically said he doesn't want to help the detectives?FZ. wrote:I don't mind who the detectives win with, as long as we win. TH, why do you think MM will never help us?
linki: FZ, I'm already doing everything I can to ensure a detective victory. I want the detectives to win this game. Baddies win enough games on this site as it is. And it's because civvies don't try as hard.
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I don't know FZ, maybe the fact that he's specifically said he doesn't want to help the detectives?FZ. wrote:I don't mind who the detectives win with, as long as we win. TH, why do you think MM will never help us?
MM wants BTSC with L to waste L's time. I want BTSC with L because I have things I need to tell him.Boomslang wrote:MM and TH wanting to be lynched for BTSC feels wrong on a deep level.
Lynch me and find out. If I'm a bad shinigami, you can lynch FZ tomorrow.boo wrote:Ok, sure, I'll ask the obvious.Turnip Head wrote:Seriously guys, dogpile your votes onto me. An FZ lynch will be a wasted lynch; I am nearly certain she is not Light, so you might as well waste the lynch by voting for me because at least some good will come out of it. My role will be revealed and you'll know I'm not working with the baddies. I could gain BTSC with L and fill him in on a lot of things that have happened. I believe I know who Light's entire team is, but I will need L's help to get rid of them.
I know it's asking a lot, but I'm asking that the detectives trust me.
Why are we supposed to believe you aren't one of 2 baddie shingami, and want votes piled on you because your team wants Light (FZ) to not be at risk of being lynched so you can keep a hold of the kill?
I didn't respond to your rebuttal because it became clear to me soon afterwards that I couldn't get you lynched right now even if I tried. I have plenty to say about your rebuttal if you'd actually like to hear my thoughts on it, because your response only served to convince me further that I am right about you.Ricochet wrote:TH, your "evidence" was built on trying to pin me and Mata as Misa/Rem. I am neither of those roles. You didn't reply to any of my rebuttal back then. You didn't actually address anything from that until I reminded you of certain questions I asked you (the Misa relinquish part). You didn't reply to any of my rebuttal on your first case (me + MM = love) either.
Unrelated to this, if you have only this angle about who Mata could be, you might want to look into a totally different, alignment-wise, but equally significant possibility.
Re: Rico. I have the evidence. I posted it a few nights ago. Absolutely no one commented on it except Daisy and Rico himself. The fact that I can try to get him lynched today has to do with the role descriptions, not a lack of evidence.juliets wrote:TH, I agree that Bass is acting like a baddie who doesn't know what to do because he's not in btsc. And it is true he came up with suspicions of people that didn't make any sense whatsoever and later admitted he hadn't been paying attention. I believe those things but I'm trying to reconcile that with the fact that his rl has been terrible lately and a little piece of me wonders if it's because of that. Have you considered that in your opinion of Bass?
Also on Rico, why can't you currently do anything about it? Is it because you don't have evidence or because of something in their role descriptions?
I believe MM is Ryuk. Maybe his secret win condition is that he has to reveal his role as such, which would require lynching him again.FZ. wrote:Why do you think MM wants us to vote for him? Or did he get back his DN and is doing a reverse psychology on us?........ Or did I totally miss his role?
Do you think Bass is bad?FZ. wrote:Why not just vote for Bass then. Forget llama and Epi. Though lynching me early is better than lynching me late.
Turnip Head wrote:You are wise to assume Mata is bad. Her allegiance should be quite clear to everyone who is paying attention.
She voted for you early again FZ, this time without even saying anything. She said she would not defend herself anymore (lol) but she said she would still try to help catch Kira. Yeah right. But I think she voted for you silently in order to not tip anyone off as to whether or not you're on the team with her. I think she's afraid her words will be analyzed and dissected, and that they won't get to put their baddie plans into motion if we figure out her motives. I put forth the plan to lynch you today, and Mata jumped on board with no hesitation. I do not think you are on her team, I think you are an unlynchable detective, but I also fear that we won't be able to get any further in this game until Epi and Llama realize that they're wrong about you. As you can see, people are apparently incapable of discussing anything else.
As for my top two suspects, they are Bass and Rico. I think Bass is Mikami. He is acting like an outsider baddie who is clueless as to what his team's plans are. That's why he's picking easy suspects and making easy votes, it's why he's having trouble coming up with genuine suspicions.
I think Rico is either Misa or Rem, the problem is I don't think I can currently do anything about it.
Zero.MovingPictures07 wrote:The Sockface Death Note Mafia Trivia Game ShowQuestion 19:
How many secret votes have been used?
You are wise to assume Mata is bad. Her allegiance should be quite clear to everyone who is paying attention.FZ. wrote:Out of the people who haven't been lynched yet (I mean attempted lynches), Bass is obviously a big concern, and I think it wasn't a coincidence he didn't vote for Mata, and I'm still worried about BR, although at times she strikes me as genuine. Still. she's nothing like the BR I've gotten used to seeing.
Also, if I assume Mata is bad, like I do, and she's defended me against Epi saying his later "case" on me seemed manipulative, it reminds me of how BR is acting, saying she's suspicious of Epi. While I know I'm a civvie and at times I don't get why Epi won't even consider I might be telling the truth (which every once in a while make me think maybe he has an agenda), they don't know I am a civ, and his reasons maybe the best out there for lynching a player. I don't think they are being genuine in their suspicion of him. This may include SD as well, though she came off more genuine, so I don't know
He quoted the correct answer about Mogi's checks, not the answer about the secret votes.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Was the information about secret votes ever revealed in thread?Turnip Head wrote:What are you pondering, Epi?
I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours.FZ. wrote:So much discussion has taken place while I was gone, it's inspiring. Should I have used the orange?
Okay, just so I know, aside from me, who are people's top 2 suspects?
I just felt like I hadn't heard from you in a while.Black Rock wrote:Why me?Turnip Head wrote:A penny for Black Rock's thoughts.
MovingPictures07 wrote:Nice job, everyone! No missing votes.
No Rico I'm not confessing anything. But after careful analysis of all events that have transpired and my read of the situations surrounding players I have been monitoring, the best educated guess that I can make is that Sidoh and Mello gained BTSC on Night 2.Ricochet wrote:Is that a confession?Turnip Head wrote:I think I know the answer to this question but I'm out of guesses
Common sense process of elimination based on who else has survived lynches and which roles I believe they might have.Ricochet wrote:She says she will survive the lynch.
She says she is a detective that will survive the lynch.
Her not being Light removes her of the suspicion of being five other non-detective roles that survive a lynch (out of which 3 specifically in Team Light) how?
Whoops!Ricochet wrote:OMG.
TH DID NOT VOTE EARLY.
I've already explained how I think Namikawa's call works. Twice.Ricochet wrote:How will "we" know anything from Namikawa's call? Where does it say that Namikawa's call is made public?Turnip Head wrote:So if FZ is Light and has the Death Note, we'll lynch her, it will fail, she'll pass the DN to Higuchi and we'll know from Namikawa's call that this has happened.
If FZ is lynched and is not Light, Higuchi gets no Death Note and Namikawa's call will not occur and we'll know FZ is an unlynchable detective.
So let's lynch FZ and just get this over with because this is boring.
If she survives the lynch like she says she will, I think this will be quite clear. Feel free to offer a counterpoint that makes sense.Ricochet wrote:Also, if FZ. isn't Light, that automatically makes her an unlynchable detective how?
