The Syndicate

Turnip Head wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I'm people.

Turnip Head wrote:I think MM is the Millionaire, and I think Con is in on it.

Long Con wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Black Rock is dead. That's why.
Aw, if my linkitis worked I would not have entered that quasi-humourous non-committal answer.

What would you have entered if it had worked?
Well, with the actual answer just flat-out posted already, I would have neither posted the coy jokey answer nor the real one... I would have deleted that post altogether.

In other words, LC was waiting patiently to deploy his "I would never kill BR on night 1" defense in just the right way.

rabbit8 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I am not making a connection to your reasons for self-voting in other games so I don't know what you're talking about. I am only concerned with your self-voting here. And here your self-vote here felt reactionary and opportunistic.

I thought the impulsive remark was a weird way to word a response about it. Considering Goldens vote for me was the same thing. Though Goldens was out of frustration. And MM was claiming she had voted in RR the same way and that she was not going to self vote and not vote for MP.

Exactly. It is all exactly as you have described.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why did it not bother you at all yesterday, when I actually placed the vote?

I believe it's called entrapment.

Oh, I was talking about the two players who self-voted before you in this game. You know about this detail because you argued with Long Con over it a bit. MP and Vomps started the trend and you joined in. Then LC called you on it. As you mentioned yourself, it's interesting that LC isn't going after the other two self-voters, only you. I think you're working together.

I am not making a connection to your reasons for self-voting in other games so I don't know what you're talking about. I am only concerned with your self-voting here. And here your self-vote here felt reactionary and opportunistic.

I said absolutely nothing about Death Note?

I think MM is the Millionaire, and I think Con is in on it.

MM's self vote feels opportunistic, coming on the heels of two other self-votes, a full 48 hours before lynch deadline. He didn't show up in the thread at all until I called him out, 48 hours after the game had started. After his self-vote, he continued posting, but not with much frequency. And then he suddenly became outspoken during the Night phase. Something's rotten in the state of Marsh.

Despite the fact that LC was suspicious of BF, he voted for MM well after it was clear the lynch was heading BF's direction, which makes it seem disingenuous to me. In that scenario, LC should have voted for a player he was suspicious of with the most votes, due to the presence of the Millionaire, meaning he should have voted BF if he was legitimately suspicious of him.

Long Con wrote:Also, have fun with the Ivory Arrow, Ichabod. I hope it is one of the five Treasures of the Orient. I think it's more likely that Ichabod took the Arrow because it sounds like it could be one of the Treasures. If Tim Waldo is the one who stole it, well, dumb move pal, because it really doesn't do anything.

So the Blond Beast of Bremen is now in possession of Black Rock's Two-Headed Elephant charm. I don't know if they did that to screw with the Celestials, or what... I think the Five Treasures are probably the Green Jade Hand, the Silver Buddha, the Two-Headed Elephant charm, the Ivory Arrow, and the Ivory Ball. Maybe the Silver Coin or the Amber Necklace.

Llama, do the Celestials know the five items they're looking for? Interesting if they do, because perhaps they would have gone for those items in the first poll.

From what I have read about HSKeeler, he likes to make seemingly important things be useless, while seemingly unimportant things are actually of utmost importance. So maybe the five Treasures are
the Clock, the Handkerchief, the Juju Berries, the Bottle, and the Nothing.

So you're speculating about Celestial business, while casually implying that you could be a Celestial by your item choice. Seems legit.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hi TH, I look forward to your thoughts today.

Hi Metalmarsh. I do not think Zomberella is bad, and do not intend to vote for her today. Today, I'm going to be looking at Metalmarsh and Long Con.

S~V~S wrote:RIP BR

What is that bit about AP stealing a skull?

And I guess no one is much worried about the will, since no one stole it from me last night.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I know who I'm voting for today and it's not Metalmarsh89.
Who?

Jeff Darrell, ace reporter, is able to check people for items and publish it in the newspaper. AP voted for the skull on Day 0, Jeff is telling us he still has it.

Rest in peace BR

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I understand where you're going with this Epi, and I would like to hear LC's answer to the question.
Your turn.
I said that so you would respond to him. It's Epi's turn again if we're going in order. I have my thoughts, but I still need to see where this discussion is going.
Why is it necessary for you to see where the discussion is going before you will become capable of questions that are relevant now?

Don't wanna talk in detail at night. I obviously have thoughts. I'll be happy to talk to you come sunup. Really not that hard to grasp.

Long Con wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I understand where you're going with this Epi, and I would like to hear LC's answer to the question.
Your turn.

I said that so you would respond to him. It's Epi's turn again if we're going in order. I have my thoughts, but I still need to see where this discussion is going.

rabbit8 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:It was not very subtle of me at all, but that doesn't make it untrue. You seem very talkative at nighttime for someone who didn't show up until 48 hours after the game started though, and very insistent that I behave the same.

It's not very civvie like to keep ideas out of the thread.......

It was not very subtle of me at all, but that doesn't make it untrue. You seem very talkative at nighttime for someone who didn't show up until 48 hours after the game started though, and very insistent that I behave the same.

The fact that I don't control the NK.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Linki: I think we should lynch TH tomorrow.
Wrong game
Right back at you.

What do you think of SVS?

What do you think of Epig's questioning of LC?

What do you think of LC?

Those are all good questions that I'll hopefully be able to discuss tomorrow.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Linki: I think we should lynch TH tomorrow.

Wrong game

You gotta risk it to get the biscuit.

Turnip Head wrote:I understand where you're going with this Epi, and I would like to hear LC's answer to the question.

I understand where you're going with this Epi, and I would like to hear LC's answer to the question.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I like where this is going.
Fantastic! Do you have anything to say about "this"?

Probably.

I like where this is going.

Zomberella12 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:This is already reading like a Keeler work. Well done host.

I bet the real killer isn't even playing and won't show up until Day 17.
Did I miss the part where the thread tells us that all the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and all the children are above average?

That part was in all the civ role PM's

Michigan Ave needed a vote.

Rest in peace BF.

BF I don't understand why you suddenly just give up because people aren't agreeing with you or playing the way you want them to. I understand that sometimes it's hard to work with people but that's like 83% of mafia, working blindly with your fellow civs to figure things out and catch the bad guys. You are giving up first chance you get instead of pushing through. Makes no sense to me.

I'm going to vote Dom because he's still my top suspicion and I don't think you're bad, but frankly I'm okay with you being lynched because it seems you don't want to play anymore, and people giving up because they're being suspected is frankly getting old.

I'm probably going to have to vote during my ten minute break at work later. I hope to hear from both BF and Zomberella by then.

Dom wrote:
S~V~S wrote:What would be interesting is if she really was the Millionaire. Then by mentioning her name, BF would be getting her votes, but her lynch is far from a done deal. He did not mention her name until he had several votes. So if she is that role, BF would actually be helping her get some votes, which her role could use if she is not lynched. And if she was lynched, he would get tons of cred.

When life hands you lemons, make lemonade, right?
maybe... something to think about for sure.

Shouldn't BF have voted for her in that case? Zomberella's response also made me feel like he definitely didn't have her permission to do this :P

Also worth noting that BF didn't even vote for Zomberella; he voted for Epi and is now campaigning for others to do so as well.

I would still like to know what BF meant about the will "expiring" - that was a new wrinkle he didn't bring up until much much later unless I missed something.

Gotchya Dom. Okay.

Dom wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Dom wrote:TH-- I'm juggling suspicions? Please-- look at how many different people BF has thrown shade at for no reason. Do you suspect BF for the same reason then? I just don't understand why suspecting 2 people (MP and BF) makes me someone who is throwing things out for no reason. I questioned juliets. Do you find it unusual for me to question people? I doubt that.
I'd rather not talk about the MP situation given the last time we did the result that ensued. I don't think we need to rehash that? Like... what else was I supposed to post? MP had a total meltdown over me asking 2 questions and didn't answer the second one. I felt responsible for MP's meltdown. I don't want to explore it again?
I don't think you questioning people is unusual (thanks for answering for me before I replied though :P ), but questioning juliets specifically, about that specific thing? I did think that was a little over the top. It felt like a normal juliets thing to say and I thought you would have agreed with me on that point.

Fair enough about MP.
If it makes you feel any better-- I was satisfied with juliets answer.

But all her answer did was confirm that she was talking about the civs... which is what I thought you were suspicious of her for?

Dom wrote:TH-- I'm juggling suspicions? Please-- look at how many different people BF has thrown shade at for no reason. Do you suspect BF for the same reason then? I just don't understand why suspecting 2 people (MP and BF) makes me someone who is throwing things out for no reason. I questioned juliets. Do you find it unusual for me to question people? I doubt that.
I'd rather not talk about the MP situation given the last time we did the result that ensued. I don't think we need to rehash that? Like... what else was I supposed to post? MP had a total meltdown over me asking 2 questions and didn't answer the second one. I felt responsible for MP's meltdown. I don't want to explore it again?

I don't think you questioning people is unusual (thanks for answering for me before I replied though :P ), but questioning juliets specifically, about that specific thing? I did think that was a little over the top. It felt like a normal juliets thing to say and I thought you would have agreed with me on that point.

Fair enough about MP.

And while I now do believe that what Dom meant re: juliets was that she was buddying up to the civs with the "us" comment, I'm not sure I believe that it was a genuine suspicion on Dom's part. I feel like juliets uses that sort of inclusive language all the time when she is civ. So it still pings me that he brought it up. It feels like he's looking for any cracks he can to shove some suspicion through. First Dom suspected MP, then when MP essentially gave up Dom got frustrated with that, "what the hell am I supposed to post now" he said, and moved onto suspecting Blindfaeth and Golden, then saying he might vote for one of the self voters, then he brought up Jules' "us" thing. It feels like he's juggling a lot of suspicions just to see what will work. I don't know, something about Dom's game so far feels off to me.

I feel like Dom is being super defensive too Bea. I expected him to brush some of this stuff off, but he's going to great lengths to demolish any suspicion of him. Not sure what it means but he seems super aggro. But that's been the story for this entire Day 1 I suppose. Everybody's acting crazy

blindfaeth wrote:And by the way, the fact they can expire makes me think zomb is bullshitting about her item being worthless. Why bother making a role that can make items expire if they don't do anything.

What do you mean that it expires? Had you mentioned this before?

Bye Mongoose, and welcome Sophie!

blindfaeth wrote:I'm actin a fool right meow

Epignosis wrote:
Zomberella12 wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:Oh well, if people are interested in lynching me I suppose I'll share what I know. At least if I die, SVS won't be able to lie to you about whose will it is. It is Zomberellas will. The reason I did not come after her in the thread as many of you suggested is because she was literally absent for so long. Which I think is oddly convenient, but whatever. Final thoughts, I think dom is bad, he's only analytical like this when he has a team. I think epi and bills are bad. Think SVS is misguided. Good luck
Well, I think BF ruined my role. Thanks, for that. Civvie or not, you blew it!
Now that's interesting, right there.

Indeed.

Turnip Head wrote:
Mongoose wrote:I have no idea how to read all these new (and "new") people. I'll just assume you are all good. Seems legit.
This post irked me a little. Why give new people the benefit of the doubt, Mongoose? It's the only time you'll be able to make a truly fresh read on a player and let your mafia instincts kick in. And if you really are just assuming they're all good, why even say anything? I'm having trouble understanding your motives behind making this post.

Fair enough Dom, I suppose that makes sense.

Honestly Dom I got the same impression from your post that LC, rabbit, BF and Golden did, and now that you've clarified that that wasn't your intention, I actually have NO idea what you're getting at re: juliets. Asking her if she was addressing all civs by saying "us", what does that even mean, what is your point re: juliets? Your follow-up question to her makes no sense to me, but I guess I'll wait to hear juliets' response to it in any case. But it feels like you're backpedaling.

Speaking of waiting for responses, I'm still waiting on Mongoose to address my post directed towards her. Her three posts from this past day are as follows:

Mongoose wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Dang it, I should have counted to 10, I feel bad for reacting emotionally now instead of rationally. :P But I'm in too deep now. VOTE ME. And stuff. BBL.

It's okay hoss, we've all been there.

Huge deadline at COB tomorrow so I am spending my afternoon break doing a Scan & Ran with you lot. Seems like typical "mountains of molehill" Day 1 shenanigans, but nothing is toooo concerning to me yet (and I sure as hell don't have anything more compelling to add other than I made a "It has proudly been 3 days since our last velociraptor accident" sign for my office door).

I'll be voting early (tomorrow)because I leave for St Pete Saturday morning for a business trip and will be gone through Tuesday.

So it sounded like she had scanned the thread, because she commented how the day's cases looked like mountains of molehills fare.

Then she replied to a post that wasn't addressed to her:

Mongoose wrote:
fingersplints wrote:Idk BR. If it was anyone other than MP I might think you were on to something, but he is so detail oriented I'm not really shocked he would have read the rules. Even I noticed that you can't have two people vote the same option and I am pretty notorious for not reading things like that carefully.
worth considering though

so bf - the TH/Bullz things are seperate from the will thing? I'm trying to get what you are saying here
I'm frankly surprised I read the instructions and am not one of the ones who voted second for one of the items. That's a welcome change.

And then she made an off-topic comment directed to the host:

Mongoose wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Hey everyone!
Since we have a little extra time today, let's have a fun game. The roles on the front page need pictures to go along with them. Please submit a picture of your role to me via PM by the end of Night 1. My favorite gets a prize. Please nothing too racist for the Celestials.
*spat out tea in laughter*

I like the qualifier of "too" racist, with the intimation being that "a little racist" is permissible.

Yet she didn't reply to my post addressed to her. For now I'll give her the benefit of the doubt that she just hadn't read that far into the thread, even though her first post made it sound like she had scanned the whole thread to that point. So that's strange, but I'll withhold from further judgment until she replies to my first post and to this subsequent post.

Zomberella12 wrote:TH - You seem different then you did in Death Note.

I can confirm that I'm not an invincible independent that needs to be lynched to win in this game.

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birdwithteeth11
Black Rock
blindfaeth
Bullzeye
Canucklehead
DFaraday
Dom
Epignosis
Elohcin
fingersplints
Golden
juliets
LizKeen
Long Con
Metalmarsh89
Mongoose
MovingPictures07
rabbit8
ShēpInWolfsClothing
S~V~S
Turnip Head
Vompatti
Zomberella12

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Metalmarsh89 has yet to post in this game. Is he aware that he's playing?
You called?

Now I can post my list.

Metalmarsh89 has yet to post in this game. Is he aware that he's playing?

For what it's worth MP your explanation sounded believable to me.

BR clearly said that she thought you received info about the rules from BTSC in between your two posts, MP.

Golden wrote:Well, that post wasn't ironic at all, rabbit!

I don't get to dictate to others how they play, but I can say I think it's anti-civilian and I can vote for them. And if I want to be the borg and make people assimilate, I'll damn well try. You have exactly the same rights when it comes to me, ok?

I think this game is real basic. If you want people to know you are civilian, you gotta adapt to how they take it in. I got some getting used to epi to do, but he also has some getting used to me to do.

I think it's a cop out, and I want him to shoot straight. If he doesn't, I see myself voting for him. Ok?

That's the thing though. When Epi is a civilian, I don't think he cares about making people know he's a civilian. That's not his goal.

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