The Syndicate

Golden wrote:So, your experience of me is that when I switch teams, I suddenly and drastically change my approach to the game in the thread?

Did I do anything transparently different to jeopardise my civ cred in World Reborn, TH? You were on my team.

If anything, I'd think the most likely conclusion you could draw is the fact that I wasn't the slightest bit worried about taking an entirely different approach is that you can virtually rule me out from recruitment that night.

Golden wrote: I can't in good conscience vote for a contributor when I don't have time to do my due diligence.

Golden wrote:And I'll probably have to do it soon.

Interested in input on voting Floyd or Equivocate. Not going to vote Bubbles.

Open to people giving me short and sharp reasons for other options.

MacDougall wrote:Hey so all of the "Mac was bullshitting about his crumb" now have Dutch Turnip to contend with. Knock yourselves out.

Golden wrote:My vote is exactly what I've said it is today. I have not kept up with the thread on this day phase at all, and I can't justify voting for a participant, even one I suspect, when I can't do my due diligence.

Golden wrote:And I'll probably have to do it soon.

Interested in input on voting Floyd or Equivocate. Not going to vote Bubbles.

Open to people giving me short and sharp reasons for other options.

Golden wrote: I would have been very upset with myself if I'd started a vote run on a contributing townie because I had to vote so early and wasn't able to substantiate my suspicion.

Golden wrote:Yep, I was looking for validation for a lazy vote. Too true.

But my situation at that point of yesterday was that I was being quite literally the least lazy I've ever been in my life.

What exactly do you want from me, TH, on a day when I couldn't participate? What do you think my better approach could be, when everyone who I had suspicion of had given me a defence that I had no time to investigate? Should I have simply pretended they gave no defence and voted for them anyway? I would have been very upset with myself if I'd started a vote run on a contributing townie because I had to vote so early and wasn't able to substantiate my suspicion.

I was looking for views on the non-participant options, but I got none at all. Just Mac snapping at me for answering a question that could have been directed at anyone.

Golden wrote:And I'll probably have to do it soon.

Interested in input on voting Floyd or Equivocate. Not going to vote Bubbles.

Open to people giving me short and sharp reasons for other options.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I just voted for myself. Have fun wasting a lynch.

juliets wrote:So TH you're saying he's more likely to vote himself as a civ, did I understand you correctly?

juliets wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Go ahead, DH, vote for me.

I don't have the time or energy to defend myself. It's boring anyway.

I just voted for myself. Have fun wasting a lynch.

I just don't understand what you're doing MP, if you're a civ at least don't vote for yourself jeez. Which makes me think you're not.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Go ahead, DH, vote for me.

I don't have the time or energy to defend myself. It's boring anyway.

I just voted for myself. Have fun wasting a lynch.

DharmaHelper wrote:Oh TH is actually cursed to talk like that what a fun coincidence Hi TH.

MacDougall wrote:No, the comment is there and I am considering posting it now because I'm over discussing it. You reckon I should?

bea wrote:Voting Wayne enterprises just in case I don't make it back before night end.

MacDougall wrote:Guys don't waste a lynch on me. My role is...

Spoiler: show

Superman: A secret role. You cannot be lynched. You cannot be night-killed except if targeted by someone holding kryptonite which isn't a thing in this game. You cannot be targeted. Your vote counts as 5 votes. You can kill a player every night and your kill cannot be prevented. You start the game knowing everybody's alignment except Dom's. You are invulnerable to Matt's tinfoil cases. If you survive to the end Metalmarsh and DharmaHelper win the game because they are Metalmarsh and DharmaHelper. Everybody starts the game with a red peek on you because the Daily Planet tries to make you out to be evil.

Spoiler: show

Almost looks legit, but if your vote is worth 5 why was there a tie on Day 1? Nice try

MacDougall wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Pretty good result. From her last few posts I thought she might flip Bane or Two Face.

Yeah the way she was speaking made me feel that way too but I also don't think she was lying either so maybe The Joker was a fair bit more anti-mafia than anti-town. Which kind of suits The Joker right?

MacDougall wrote:Sorry Black Rock, I have played probably over 100 Mafia games and I have never had to self preservation vote before. I don't like it.

Enrique wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Case on BR is stronger than the one on Mac and at least Mac is engaged in the game. We can talk about Mac tomorrow.

How does it feel that people are voting me without making their own cases. You are getting me lynched and you didn't even vote me. This is going to look terrible for you when I flip.

To be fair he's discouraging your lynch more or less.

S~V~S wrote:And TH, I think the Mac case was batter, less meta centered.

Black Rock wrote:You're so wrong TH.

Well I'm voting for Dom. He is soooooo bad. He's got that nasty edge to him like his baddie self. Then he pulls himself back and is very gentle. No matter how this lynch goes I hope some of you will take some time and look at Dom. There is no way he is a civvie this game.

MacDougall wrote:Okay TH show me what real cheerleading looks like.

MacDougall wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Black Rock you made 5 posts during Night 2.

One is a reply to Dom's question towards you earlier
One is a reaction to the lynch which is cool
Two of them are about whether the host would bus or help his teammates
And the last one is a joke about the thread being gigantic

Those posts range from 11am to 8:30pm; the fourth was at 7:24pm and the last one was at 8:30 and was a response to the post directly above it. Given these facts I don't think it's unreasonable to assume you had caught up on the night's posts at that time.

What pings me is that was the Night where Enrique made a big stink about me claiming Alfred and being a liar, you couldn't have missed it.

Not everyone knows this, but I know you pay close attention to me in games just like I pay close attention to you. For me it's weird that you didn't give any sort of opinion on me one way or another at this time. It felt like you were content to let it play out without getting involved. That is not what I'm used to from civvie BR.

Don't want my point on BR to get lost in this madness.

Is it fair to use that point when Black Rock has already made mention of the fact that she is lost in the sea of posts?

It doesn't rescind her from being Mafia though.

sprityo wrote:I plan on being back around 30 minutes before deadline, so I'll be able to vote then

Assuming I don't keel over and die after my workout

Turnip Head wrote:Black Rock you made 5 posts during Night 2.

One is a reply to Dom's question towards you earlier
One is a reaction to the lynch which is cool
Two of them are about whether the host would bus or help his teammates
And the last one is a joke about the thread being gigantic

Those posts range from 11am to 8:30pm; the fourth was at 7:24pm and the last one was at 8:30 and was a response to the post directly above it. Given these facts I don't think it's unreasonable to assume you had caught up on the night's posts at that time.

What pings me is that was the Night where Enrique made a big stink about me claiming Alfred and being a liar, you couldn't have missed it.

Not everyone knows this, but I know you pay close attention to me in games just like I pay close attention to you. For me it's weird that you didn't give any sort of opinion on me one way or another at this time. It felt like you were content to let it play out without getting involved. That is not what I'm used to from civvie BR.

MacDougall wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Case in point you are doing it in that very post. Everything I do is scummy to you now.

To be fair you've been doing that with me all game.

But no, not everything you do is scummy to me, I opened the discussion, I digested your responses, I said I would give you some breathing room and laid off the rest of the Day. About an hour ago I said I wasn't heavily considering a vote for you because your responses made me feel less sure about my case. So I'd appreciate if you don't push the narrative that I'm not keeping an open mind about you.

Don't put words in my mouth. I said that your opinion on me is devalued by the fact that I have a prior scum read on you. Not once did I say you weren't keeping an open mind about my alignment.

And it is true, and I don't care if Dom pops up and posts this smiley while italicising that point, it is true. People who make reads on those who've made reads on them need to be looked at with a more discerning lens than a regular case.

MacDougall wrote:Case in point you are doing it in that very post. Everything I do is scummy to you now.

MacDougall wrote:Let's count the numbers of people who are "considering" a Mac vote.

1. Typhoony - Casts a no u after I say I'd vote for him
2. TH - My oldest and dearest scum read
3. Dom - Perennially scum reads me
4. Bullzeye - Another scum read that I voted for yesterday

A real hotpot of people who should be trusted to read me unbiased.

Enrique wrote:TH, there was a post earlier that made me think about last night's recruitment.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Not here for long, but I've cleared this with the Hosts and just wanted to say:

I was poisoned Night 1, which is part of the reason I stopped caring about living.

Also, sig is my number one suspect!

He later goes on to clarify he's still poisoned, so, where did the newfound will to live come from?

Golden wrote:Have to vote now. In feeling like my genuine suspects all have made good defences, and I haven't had time to consider them properly, I'm going to vote for someone who probably won't be lynched, but I'm not going to complain if they are. That's Floyd, because he isn't contributing.

This vote could easily have gone to Bass or Equivocate too.

S~V~S wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

juliets wrote:TH I'm surprised you are thinking to voat BR instead of Mac since BR has not yet responded to the accusations. Is there a reason you are not looking at Mac after the case you made? What I mean by that is are you less sure of some of the conclusions you drew in the case? Bottom line, I'm wondering why BR not Mac.

Yes, Mac's responses made me less sure of my case on him. I think the connections are there but it could also be a series of coincidences and he's civ. I still don't like that he's claiming to cheerlead that lynch lol but whatever. I've still got my eye on him but I think my BR case is more straightforward.

I have not seen your case on Mac yet, or BR, this thread is a bitch. I don't particularly think he sounds bad, and I have no opinion at all on her; what were your points? Or can you link me to them?

juliets wrote:TH I'm surprised you are thinking to voat BR instead of Mac since BR has not yet responded to the accusations. Is there a reason you are not looking at Mac after the case you made? What I mean by that is are you less sure of some of the conclusions you drew in the case? Bottom line, I'm wondering why BR not Mac.