The Syndicate

Hey LC, what do you make of all these people vouching for the both of us?

Not to belabor this for too long, but here was my whole thing with that. Yes it was a reasonable assumption to make about the mechanics, and yes it's likely indeed what happened, but it still wasn't mentioned EXPLICITLY within the rules. But LC answered my question quickly and definitively like he knew for certain. It stood out to me.

We need to discuss what we're going to do if we lynch a railroad or a utility today and their card is put up for auction.

I liked the idea of letting them just sit there, but it also seems risky to do that.

And as for why I think you could be a utility LC... well, because the utilities learned my role, and if I'm lynched they'll get a bonus added to their bid on my property. And LC has already said that he's interested in buying and selling properties for personal gain. From my perspective it's a conspiracy theory that makes some sense. I'll admit I've also pointed out things that could make me think you're a railroad, and I understand that you can't be both.

linki: Sure man, I'll check you out tonight

@LC: That's an answer I suppose I'll have to be okay with... Because that was indeed my concern re: you. You have asked many in-thread questions, and this one if asked would have had to have been behind the scenes. Somewhere you connected some dots by yourself if that's the case, and I can't prove that you ever asked for clarification on your certainty.

And I don't know why, BR, you threw in that line about me trying to make everyone else feel stupid with my knowledge... I don't know what that has to do with anything, or what you're specifically referencing, or why you think I would want to do something like that...

I'm sad that you feel I'm a player who has those sorts of intentions.

Black Rock wrote:Do you have some sort of knowledge that the rest of us don't? Are you using this knowledge to make others feel stupid? Why do you think they killed SVS if not to gain the RR property? Whjat do you know about where it ended up? Cause it didn't just disappear. I feel like there is enough thread knowledge to assume that when the RR killed SVS they gained control of the RR property. I am sorry TH you are not looking like a helpful civvie, just someone trying to use words to make his case look solid.

What? No, that's my whole point. That yes, right now at this moment there's a lot in the thread that suggests the railroads got the Short Line card from SVS and that's why they killed her. I understand that.

But nowhere in the rules did it SAY that that's what would happen. Either LC extrapolated himself on the rules, or he asked behind the scenes. That's what I'm currently trying to get to the bottom of. I want to know exactly where LC's answer came from.

Long Con wrote:Hmm, well, maybe you should put your reading glasses, grandpa...

boo wrote:Successful NKs will result in the player responsible for the NK getting the card of the killed player.

A little ketchup and fresh ground pepper might make that hat a little more palatable. Will you post a video of you eating it?

Third post of the game, three paragraphs from the bottom.

I was about ready to smother my hat in some ranch dressing, BUT! This isn't exactly the same thing. Boo said if someone kills you they get your starter card but in that quote he doesn't say that the same thing happens for any extra properties we collect. That leaves open the possibility that those properties might be auctioned off or simply placed back on the board. But you seemed pretty certain about your answer that they go to the killer, and you didn't ask in the thread for clarification.

Are you saying you did not ask Boo any questions on this matter, and that the line you quoted from the rules was your only point of reference?

Long Con wrote:

TH wrote:

Long Con wrote:

fingersplints wrote:Unless whoever wins it is railroad.

They'd better hope they're the railroad with the kill, or else they'll kill one of their own. :o

Just pointing out that this isn't how it works. The railroads can't be NK'd until they've all found each other. The Short Line bidding war was a win-win for the railroads.

Good point, I was wrong there. They couldn't kill one of their own. So I guess now I'm a railroad who's intentionally getting some thing s wrong about my own role...?

Nah man, calm down it's nothing like that... I think you're a utility

Long Con wrote:I am watching with half-grinning disbelief at the fervent bidding on Short Line. I can't wait to see how it turns out.

LC doesn't explain his surprised amusement. Look how veiled this is. LC puts himself in bystander mode as the bidding increases. His statement here doesn't have to contain a trace of guilt on it, depending on the interpretation of his tone here. But it looks guilty to me.

I mean, look who STARTED the bidding:

Long Con wrote:Nice result! I bid $1!!

You have to feel like LC was hoping to incite a bidding frenzy with that stunt...

Then I asked the question that didn't breach SVS or MetalM's cranium:

Long Con wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:What happens to any extra cards we win if we get NKed?

The killer gets the extra cards, and your own card.

Now sure, I and perhaps others who didn't bid straight away assumed that this might have to be the case - because I thought about what would happen to someone's stuff if and when they died. But I realized that this answer that LC provides here isn't in the thread. Seriously, go look, I'll eat a hat if it's anywhere in the rules that that's what happens when you die. LC knows it though, and so once the bidding commences he can't help but maniacally smirk. LC's answer to that question must have come from boo from behind the scenes. Which makes me think he has a good reason to ask about it.

Long Con wrote:

fingersplints wrote:Unless whoever wins it is railroad.

They'd better hope they're the railroad with the kill, or else they'll kill one of their own. :o

Just pointing out that this isn't how it works. The railroads can't be NK'd until they've all found each other. The Short Line bidding war was a win-win for the railroads.

I didn't pull a No U on you LC. My concern with your tone has nothing to do with you suspecting me for not suspecting Epi. When I get home tonight ill break down my concerns for you if you want.

FZ, I couldn't find anything on it in the rules, but if it works like Powers that get no bid, the rule might look something like this:

Any power that receives no bids will be available for purchase at the starting bid, with the person who buys it posting in the thread that they would like to do so. If, within 30 minutes of that post, anyone else ups the amount they will pay for it (any amount), that person gets it (and the 30 minute rule still applies)

Maybe properties work the same way.

LC your tone this game has been completely different from what it was in the recent Dr Who game. Was that an intentional choice you made while playing this game, or does it maybe tell us something about your role this time around?

Nevermind I found where boo said that the higher fine on railroads wouldn't be shown. We need to lynch Pennsylvania Bitch.

Long Con wrote:So those payments to Pennsylvania RR are indeed $25 each. It's worth noting, though, TH, that boo will display the payments as $25 even if they are more, so as to hide the Railroads' actual current earning power.

I want to know how LC knows this to begin with. did I miss where boo said it?

Linki. Reading your post now FZ

$70 on the protect.

$50 on the Go to Jail card.

Pennsylvania RR killed SVS last night, presumably taking all of her cards.

3 players landed on Pennsylvania RR last night, and only had to pay $25 each.

Does that mean that the Pennsylvania RR does not own any other railroads? The assumption being that SVS won the bidding on the Short Line and that Penn RR confiscated it after killing her.

@boo: What is the order of operations for night actions? Was SVS killed and then we all moved around the board, or did everybody move and then SVS died?

FZ pulled my bid out of a pile of bids, subtly wording her question to be accusatory. When I responded and asked why she picked my bid among many to pick on, I was ignored.

Turnip Head wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Can we still bid on the dice roll? I'll bid the current + 25 on that.

What do you get out of giving someone another dice roll?

I would use it for myself to get to Go faster and get more cash.

Why did you single out my bid to ask a question like this?

I just think Epi plays a little more recklessly when he has no teammates. His Big Bid didn't push me toward suspecting Epi the way that it did for you and others, it made me think he's alright.

I too have had a baddie "vouch" for me when I've been a civvie... That doesn't mean that's what's going on here or in the countless other instances of civvies sticking up for one of their own through nothing but intuition and gut. Have you never tried to save someone you believed was a civvie with you, LC?

And I can't even see a scenario where a baddie TH would have any more knowledge of Epi's role than my current civvie self does, so I'm not sure where you think you're going with this.

I've correctly called Epi's alignment before, even on Day 1. Not saying I'm infallible but I've played a lot of games with the guy and I've picked up on a thing or two.

I also like to think I can read Elo pretty well and I'm curious to hear Epi's thoughts in her so far.

Rest in peace SVS sorry to see you go early

LC I get the feeling you're trying to create some friction out of nothing. What's wrong with me saying that I don't think Epi is bad, and how does such a statement lead you to conclude that I'm better at mafia than you? Do you not have a read on anyone yet?

I didn't see one, that's why I posted it just in case.

Who Should Die?

Poll ended at Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:00 pm


Epignosis
5
FZ. (4), Boogs (5), Long Con (11), sabie12 (17), Made (23) 21%

Elohcin
1
Epignosis (1) 4%

MovingPictures07
1
Metalmarsh89 (6) 4%

Boogs
1
birdwithteeth11 (12) 4%

Long Con
1
thellama73 (7) 4%

LoRab
0
No votes

zeek
0
No votes

Metalmarsh89
0
No votes

S~V~S
1
keys56000000000 (10) 4%

DFaraday
0
No votes

DisgruntledPorcupine
0
No votes

Bass_the_Clever
0
No votes

sabie12
0
No votes

birdwithteeth11
0
No votes

HannaK
0
No votes

fingersplints
0
No votes

Black Rock
0
No votes

Turnip Head
0
No votes

Spacedaisy
0
No votes

Mongoose
0
No votes

thellama73
1
Mongoose (14) 4%

nijuukyugou
0
No votes

keys56000000000
1
Degobunny (8) 4%

Hedgeowl
0
No votes

FZ.
0
No votes

Made
9
HannaK (9), Bass_the_Clever (13), zeek (15), Black Rock (16), nijuukyugou (18), S~V~S (19), juliets (20), Turnip Head (22), Hedgeowl (24) 38%

Degobunny
0
No votes

juliets
1
Elohcin (21) 4%

Tyler Durden (Host/mod/nons)
2
boo (2), Enrique (3) 8%
Total votes : 24

You'd have to check the thread for any switched votes, I didn't catch them.

So the railroads could just NK whoever wins the bidding and get the Short Line for free.

What happens to any extra cards we win if we get NKed?

Maybe he thought B & O were separate teammates Awesome result, see you in the next game Made!

Gotcha son

110 dice roll

Voted Made. Though I'll feel bad about it if it turns out to be nothing.

I don't plan on voting until approximately 10 minutes before the lynch. I'm leaning Made but would like to see his reply.

You're right juliets his scenario does add up to 5. Maybe Made has just never played Monopoly.

Made's post looks like a bona fide slip up to me.

keys56000000000 wrote:Must have missed the post where Degobunny explained why he/she voted for me. Gonna be one of those sorts of games, eh? Sorry you guys didn't like my union idea. I feel like an idiot for even believing for a second that it would be well-received here.

Keys cmon bro don't be such a drama queen

linki: What's the vote tally at then? Anybody have it?

I really don't think Epi is bad. I also don't think he'd be so ostentatious with someone else's money. He looks like he's working on his own to me. Don't understand the votes for him but I guess on Day 1 you gotta go with something.

Looking at the board I'm also in a bad spot... I've got a railroad, a utility, and a Go To Jail coming up in my next 12 moves. Maybe I need to bid more on that third die...

FZ. wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Can we still bid on the dice roll? I'll bid the current + 25 on that.

What do you get out of giving someone another dice roll?

I would use it for myself to get to Go faster and get more cash.

Why did you single out my bid to ask a question like this?

Speaking of lynching... I have no idea. I liked the argument between pro-town and pro-individual, but I can see civvie perspectives on both sides of that coin. I also think it's an easy topic for mafia to blend in discussing.

Can we still bid on the dice roll? I'll bid the current + 25 on that.

I like that rule Marshy, as long as all contestants understand the distinction you're making.

Are you officially joining the challenge llama? I'll put a starter bet of $10 on ya

I feel like pictures with an s are cool, as long as it doesn't have any dollar signs and pics are used tastefully.

Cutting a word off in the middle however is less swag.

I bet 50 Monopoly $'s that Epi makes it further in this challenge than MM does.

Oh snapsies it looks like MM is onboard. Surely Epi must accept this challenge.

Epi, I dare you to never use words that have "s" or any of its substitutes for the rest of the game

I'm not playing mafia until the ca$h signs are gone.

I don't think Epi is bad, or at least I don't think he has BTSC yet... but if he has a majority vote 10 minutes before deadline you can bet your $weet bippy that I'll vote for him and then try to take his card.

juliets wrote:Can someone tell me what this means:

6. LoRab = 12 (6+6), Electric Company (roll is 3+1=4*10, EC gets $40 from bank, learns role).

Does that mean the person who is the Electric Company (which i believe is a utility thus a baddie) learns Lorab's role? I don't remember reading that anywhere but I can't think of anything else it means.

I had to look it up too since it pertained to me. If you land on a utility they will learn your role and get money from the bank.

After Day 1, the utilities rolechecked Elo, Lorab and me, and they earned $190 from the 3 of us landing there.

The utilities know my role

@boo:

You said we won't get a PM if our check fails... Will we get a PM if we're blocked so thAt we know to possibly check that person in the future?

Yay game! Still need to look over all the mechanics to see what I think about the BTSC vs non-BTSC. But from past experience it would seem that BTSC is always an advantage worth pursuing. Especially when we're trying to find baddies, having BTSC members makes it easier to find those baddie needles in the haystack.

Linki. Especially if having a monopoly gives you extra powers it seems worth it. But I agree we should all be trying to work together as much as we can.