The Syndicate

Good stuff

Looks like all the houses are still on the front page, too.

boo wrote:Sale:
The 10 houses that cost $100 each and do not have to be used immediately after buying can be purchased now via PM. You can buy as many as you want, but they cost an additional $25 for each one you buy after 1. You can buy them for the next 2 hours.

10 extra lynch votes are for sale. They cost $50 each and it's 2 max per player. They will stop being sold (if they aren't sold out) in 5 hours.

Hmmm it looks like you're right. Boo didn't say that the votes were sold via PM like the houses.

And I'm pretty sure I saw you online reading the thread when the announcement went up.

How do you know nobody bought them? I didn't because I don't have any money, but I definitely would have bought some if I was able.

I still think we should force LC to lynch DFaraday by himself, but I understand that a more straightforward approach is more popular. But don't say I didn't warn you guys about his voting power.

I guess we'll see if anyone inherits the kill. I don't know if I believe LC when he says he didn't bid on Beatdown. The reds spent a lot of money on houses, hotels, and Epi's Chance card, while the baby blues were frugal with their house purchases. These were the two established teams when Beatdown was put up for auction. Smart money says the blues at least tried to get the power.

Did you bid on Beatdown, LC?

And you would have had to bid $202 to win that hotel. Because you didn't vote for SVS like you should have.

12 alive. If LC has the 5 votes, plus his own, plus 2 more from today, plus maybe 1 or 2 from the contest at the beginning of the game... that's a possible 9 or 10 votes. More if he's got teammates willing to vote with him.

There will probably be 10 players left alive in 48 hours.

Scary stuff people.

I literally had to mortgage them or I would die, it's that simple. I can get them back if I get more money later.

I had one trick up my sleeve, the +5 votes, and I was already forced to use it. Long Con and Metalmarsh have that same trick still, guaranteed. And if they have any amount of money at all, they probably just bought a couple more.

What a twist

And I think Zeek was either red or baby blue. If he was a red and you're right about BR, then Epi and LC were not teammates.

Linki: I'm worried that LC bought Beatdown and that he has enough votes to run lynches, yes. He's also been gunning for me all game, mostly because he thought I was WW. Maybe he was hoping that was the case so he could get his grubby Canadian hands all over the NK.

Sure, here's my personal priority list:

Long Con (+5 votes, LMS, possibly Beatdown)
DFaraday (nearly airtight case for being RR)
Water Works
Metalmarsh (+5 votes, likely LMS)
Reds (BR?)
Everyone else (LMS), Bass, MP? Idk
Turnip Head (all by himself, broke as fuck)

Basically, I think a color group that was established early is most likely to have bid high for it. So probably the reds or the baby blues.

I think Epi would likely encourage his team to acquire the Beatdown. I could also see LC wanting it; he hasn't bid on anything in quite a while, he may have paid a pretty penny for it. Lorab's on my radar, she hasn't bid on much or said much. Anyone I say here would be nothing more than a wild guess.

I'm not against lynching WW, it needs to be done at some point. But on the priority list of people who need to die, WW might be on the lower end for me right now.

I was for lynching SVS because that was the best case I had anyone. We don't currently have a case on Water Works.

Because the Beatdowns aren't going to NK anyone on their team while WW might. And with an NK the Beatdowns might start to feel confident in running the lynches. Especially if they have extra votes.

You would rather the Beatdown properties get to kill tonight instead?

Reading Railroad killed Epi. SVS was Reading Railroad. Indiana Avenue popped out of her corpse.

I just saw that BR replaced Elo. You think Elo and Epi had BTSC?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:BR replaced an inactive who I'm certain was on Epig's team.

Can you elaborate on this one, Marshy?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

fingersplints wrote:perhaps that should say what do you suggest we do? I no longer think you are a RR, and I still find it doubtful you are WW, so I'm willing to listen to other options but am running out of time to vote.

The neatest solution would be to do exactly what they did to me yesterday. Make Long Con or MM have 4 more votes than the real lynch candidate (in today's case, DFaraday perhaps), so that they have to use the +5 votes to save themselves. That's hard to coordinate though.

Isn't this possible to coordinate though?

It's possible, and I would be up for trying. It's hard to coordinate because we can't guarantee everybody will vote. Lorab and Bea have probably missed half the votes this game, and DFaraday himself only shows up every once in a while. So the numbers would be tricky. But it's possible. And I think it's probably worth it.

Yes.

But once again I'll say that even if DFaraday is the last railroad, that kill is not going away. It's going to the team that purchased the Beatdown power. For all I know, LC's team or MM's team has that thing.

fingersplints wrote:perhaps that should say what do you suggest we do? I no longer think you are a RR, and I still find it doubtful you are WW, so I'm willing to listen to other options but am running out of time to vote.

The neatest solution would be to do exactly what they did to me yesterday. Make Long Con or MM have 4 more votes than the real lynch candidate (in today's case, DFaraday perhaps), so that they have to use the +5 votes to save themselves. That's hard to coordinate though. At least we got rid of the inactives, but there are still some players who can't be counted on to vote before deadline.

If LC or MM are still around when there's only 6 or 7 players left (or even one or two more, if they have teammates or people don't vote), then they will get to decide by themselves who gets lynched. And I'm not on either of their teams, so that definitely scares me.

We could also just straight up lynch one of them today. I wouldn't be opposed to a Long Con lynch, I think he's a red because I think Epi was his partner. But DFaraday seems like the obvious choice today.

We could also just wait and hope they get NKed. Baddies should be scared of them too.

But yeah I am pretty upset about that And if I had any teammates left, I would have given ("sold") those +5 votes to them instead, because of the exact scenario that I'm talking about.

In just a few cycles, you could be able to run a lynch entirely by yourself. Earlier than that if you have any partners in crime. And if you're on a team that inherits an NK at some point... we're done for.

It's something that everyone should be thinking about.

Let's talk about how Metalmarsh and Long Con likely still have their +5 vote powers, and how the window to smoke those votes out before they overwhelm us is slowly closing.

You really don't like me this game, do you Con?

I'm not lying about anything, I don't know why you keep insisting that I am.

Long Con wrote:Metalmarsh, you did some detective work involving TH, the houses, and the 'Pinks' (I prefer to call them Magenta)... can you take a look at the current stats and let us know what you think? I would think that TH (and his team) would have had to sell Hotels to make it work, at least downgrading to one or two houses on each. I thought there were 6 hotels available before this night was over.

Shouldn't we be seeing some changes there? You have to sell off houses and hotels before mortgaging, so they should be showing up as available.

I've purchased other properties that don't have houses or hotels on them.

Long Con wrote:and the 'Pinks' (I prefer to call them Magenta)

I like to think of them as turnip colored.

boo told me. He also calculated all my finances and options for me. He's a pretty swell guy.

Which thoughts are you thinking of thinking?

I mortgaged to the bank.

I honestly have no idea about Water Works right now. I thought I had a solid case on SVS. It's probably worth noting that even if your roleblock story checks out it doesn't exclude you from being WW, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now. Also worth noting that even if we lynch Water Works today, the even night kill likely won't go away.

Linki: SVS also bought a protect. I wonder what happened to it.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

boo wrote:18. Turnip Head: Started on Tennessee Avenue. Moved 6 (1+5) to Illinois Avenue (TH owes IA $1100, asset count will be done to see if survival is possible).

@TH

Yeah man tell me about it I had to mortgage some real estate to pay off my debts.

Nice going with the roleblock. I see no reason not to trust you re: DFaraday, though I'm still interested in hearing what he has to say.

Welcome back Bass and MP! From my understanding of the rules, they aren't on a team anymore and have to hustle to stay alive.

LoRab wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

LoRab wrote:This ups the chances of TH being red, if he's telling the truth about RRs having one of the cards in his color....even if I was wrong he's WW, I don't think he's any good for anyone else.

I think you mean pink/fuschia/violet.

No, I meant red. He said RRs had one of his color properties. SVS apparently had Indiana Ave. Which is red.

Red is not my color. I'm pretty sure that that's Epi's card. He was not my partner and I'm terrified I might land on a red tonight.

The one that I won. I don't really know how else to answer that question.

juliets wrote:also, you know better than to call me a jerk. No personal attacks allowed.

It was meant in jest. You know I love ya Jules

Juliets, I had to use my extra +5 votes that I won because you jerks voted for me but thank you for the non apology haha.

juliets wrote:with svs willing to make that bet i have to vote for TH because i believe she is not WW. Maybe she is fooling me but i dont ever remember her willing to bet when she has not been right.

Even if she's not a baddie, it doesn't make me one. But I understand there aren't a whole lot of other options today.

Yeah I accepted the bet up above. It's definitely making me doubt myself. Maybe that's the point lol.

Voting for SVS. It's either her or me at this point and I believe in my case on her even if I'm having second thoughts now that she wants to bet on it. There's a lot of evidence against her.

I feel like I've got no balls for not betting the cake, but I can't. I just can't. I want that thing so bad.

Linki: if I'm lurking it's on my phone. I post when I can.

I accept those terms. But now you're really starting to make me doubt myself. :-/

I'm at work so I post when I can. Sorry it coincided with your dinner SVS.

You want to bet? Okay, if you're not Water Works, I'll sell my hotel back to the bank, if that's a thing I'm allowed to do.

I'd wager my Elohcin Christmas Cake, but there's no way in hell I would ever risk giving that up!!

But I'm not Water Works and I think that's been proven as much as it can be. If it's not me and it's not you, who is it?

I'm not sure about MM, juliets. The odds say he's in an LMS group but I haven't done any major research into his posts or purchases. He's certainly one of the most active players in the game so I appreciate that much. I remember looking into some things very early on that made me think he wasn't a railroad, and I don't think he's Water Works. I feel much more confident that SVS is a baddie at the moment.

S~V~S wrote:Also, MM, totally circumstantial but true, if I had a kill last night (and I didn't cause I am not Waterworks) and I was stupid enough to kill one of the people I was bidding against, it would have been you. If Bass is still in BTS, whoever is his BTS partner, ask him if he really thinks I killed him like that.

I'll field this one. If you're Water Works, then you knew Bass's role, and you might have suspected he owned a hotel.

Your post reacting to his death looked guilty to me. Like you felt you had to justify his death.

S~V~S wrote:Oh I also just noticed that the utilites killed zeek, who I repeatedly said I thought was bad. That would have been almost as stupid of me as killing one of the people I was bidding against last night.

Again, if you're Water Works, you would have known Zeek's role. Maybe he had a hotel too.

S~V~S wrote:But srsly, it is a good case. But I still think he could be WW.

You've been saying for Days that you think I'm LMS and that the case on me being WW didn't make sense. Why are you changing your tune now?

S~V~S wrote:Metalmarsh, I see you in here. Do you think Sabie was killing people on Night Two, and boo was replacing her on Night 3?

BWT was still alive on night 2. He could have sent in the BR kill.

Just don't put me on the reds boo.