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As for the player I have the most trust in: Golden. I'm confident he's not a teammember of MM at least, not sure if we are dealing with one or two baddie teams though.

Ok I missed that sig, sorry

The night post is petty? I'm thinking that doesn't fare well for me.

My top suspects today would be sig, TH and fz.

Lol @ sig focusing on the players who voted for a baddie for his suspicions

Why don't you review the players who voted for Floyd now?

Matt F wrote:Sorsha (or anyone) - Do you still see MM's day one vote for Turnip a distancing vote?

Also, I think FZ deserves a re-read after her pushing the tie that may have saved a baddie.

I looked through TH's posts and there isn't much connecting him to MM... I wasn't really happy with TH's answers to me earlier either. If we did gth I would say he's bad, but I need to sleep on it.

You're welcome. I'll likely be dead tonight but at least I could help a little bit.

NANANANANANA_BANANA wrote:Dam it I just missed out on the vote ;-;

How convenient

FZ. wrote:It's done. Let's hope this isn't my biggest screw up ever

linki: Sorsha, now you answer?

linki: It's not that I don't trust her, it's that I wasn't sure if it was something we can be sure about. Whatever. Doesn't really matter now, does it?

I'm out

What do you mean "Now you answer?" I posted that 3 minutes after you said it! Lol

FZ. wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
FZ. wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
FZ. wrote:linki infinity: MM, what about defending yourself? Anything you want to say?
Don't vote for me?

I read through the accusations. I have been accused of having BTSC. I have been accused of being too jokey. I have been accused of being not jokey enough. I can't defend against these.

I understand I haven't been involved in this game very much, so my loss isn't the worst thing in the world.
Who do you think is bad?

Do you have BTSC?
Yes I do have BTSC. But like I said, this sort of accusation is undefendable. I can't prove to you that I do.
I was just wondering if it's possible that Sorsha has some sort of role that let's her know that you have BTSC and she mistakenly thought it was a baddie BTSC when in fact it isn't.

No.

Golden wrote:I voted MM. I wouldn't want Sorsha to tunnel.

*channels her inner Mac*

I'm just letting everyone know. If MM isn't lynched today I'll be voting for him every single day until one of us are dead. (in this game only though

MM)

sig wrote:
FZ. wrote:I'm done catching up. I'd like if the following people addressed my questions:

Sig, while you answered about your item, you never answered why you didn't question BR when she was voting for you or during all the time until she died?
By the time I saw her vote the day was over and I was trying to avoid mentioning my item until I used it. I assumed day 2 she would have more pings as well and not vote based on items. So I didn't find it necessary to mention.

@FZ you wantto lynch Loyd? I'm assuming that is Floyd? I will ISO him really quick but if possibly could you provide reasoning for that lynch?
Sorsha why did you vote for MM?

Please read my posts, I think he is bad

FZ. wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
FZ. wrote:
Sorsha wrote:I'm pretty confident on MM. I'd like to find the connections though.
Why are you so sure about him? I agree he has not been very helpful so far, not to mention more jokey than his usual civ persona, but when he does post on topic, it feels to the point. What are you seeing that I'm not?
I was actually under the impression that he's been less jokey and more serious this game. I don't really have a meta argument for his civ/scum jokes content though but he's not feeling like the same MM to me. I think he's a great vote for today.
Can you say in what sense he's not feeling like the same MM to you?

To be honest, there is going to be one reason for me to follow your vote today, and it's not going to be your amazing case. So while I have no problem with this kind of stuff, because where I come from, this is a legitimate way of acting, I'm not so sure it is here. So if it's possible, can you show something in the actual content that would make him look bad to you?

There wasn't much to work with in the thread for MM which is why I asked him so many questions last night, I wasn't really satisfied with his answers:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I dont mean to vanish. I was just getting some schooled work done to day and reacharing the ol mafia batteries.

But hi! Still here. If y'alll have anyontihng to shove in my face, go for it.

Linki: I can disappear at awill too.
What do you think of BR pointing her finger at sig and then dying?

Do you think sig/his team had anything to do with it? If not then any ideas who?

What do you think of Matt's post on TH? Agree or disagree?
BR didn't do herself any favors calling out a player who had the same item that she did, and including that in her reason.

A team had something to do with it definitely. I haven't given it any thought. I didn't make the connection that you pointed out until just now.

I think it's clear that MacDougall did not have a scumread on Matt to start the game. I also agree that TH is wasting his time looking at Matt for that reason. I don't know why Draconus voted for sig (I'll check it out later), but I like Matt's theory.

What do you think about this whole matter? I don't see your stance anywhere.

I feel like he's tip toeing around pointing fingers because they (sig & TH) are likely his teammates.

He's blaming BR for her own night kill.

Well duh a team had to do with it, she was killed by a team. It's ok if you haven't given it any thought up until that point but when someone asks you a certain question wouldn't you expect them to give it some thought? And I don't buy that he hadn't made the connection, it had been brought up in the thread already.

I asked him about Matts theory on TH in that post which was:

Matt F wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:...and I think that's exactly what you were planning to do when you took yourself out of the Day 1 conversation after Mac called you out early on.
Also, let's be clear. Mac didn't call out anything. He simply wanted to lynch me because he doesn't like my playstyle. Even Mac will tell you this. It had nothing to do with "calling me out (as a baddie)".

Bea - As I said, I'm looking at Drac and Turnip. I said I'd wait, but eff it, let's do this...

Drac voted for sig Day one. I think it is very possible for Drac to be on the Mafia, kill BR, frame sig, and then Drac has a "consistent" looking vote on Day 2 when he votes sig again.

Turnip is the one who was asking Black Rock questions about her item and whether or not that's why she was voting sig...I think it's entirely possible that was a set up question, kill BR, frame sig, and then Turnip could go back and say "Hey look at my interaction with BR what if sig is bad???"

However, at this point, Turnip is wasting energy looking at me, so maybe I'm wrong on that front.

He agreed with Matt's case on TH here. Possible distancing but I'm not sure, he seems to address the other points in Matt's post more so then the TH point, which is what I had asked about.

While I'm most sure of MM I think TH could be a possible teammate and also sig.

FZ. wrote:
Sorsha wrote:I'm pretty confident on MM. I'd like to find the connections though.
Why are you so sure about him? I agree he has not been very helpful so far, not to mention more jokey than his usual civ persona, but when he does post on topic, it feels to the point. What are you seeing that I'm not?

I was actually under the impression that he's been less jokey and more serious this game. I don't really have a meta argument for his civ/scum jokes content though but he's not feeling like the same MM to me. I think he's a great vote for today.

I'm pretty confident on MM. I'd like to find the connections though.

I'm taking a page from MMs book here... TH- are you bad?

Matt F wrote:If MM were to get lynched today and flip bad, how would you view his Day 1 vote on Turnip?

Distancing disguised as a joke vote.

Turnip Head wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think it's clear that MacDougall did not have a scumread on Matt to start the game. I also agree that TH is wasting his time looking at Matt for that reason.
My case on Matt has nothing to do with whether or not Mac had a scumread on him.
What do you think of sig and MM? Do you think either or both of them had something to do with BRs death? If you only had the two to choose from for a vote today which one would you vote for?
I don't care to guess who killed BR because I think anyone could have done it. I do not plan to vote for sig. I think the same people trying to find meaning in the BR kill could be the ones who killed her. So.

And what do you think of MM?

Isn't it our civvie job to find out who the bad guys are? Or are you not civvie?

He's my number one choice actually. I might as well get the ball rolling so I don't miss another lynch.

vote for metalmarsh

Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think it's clear that MacDougall did not have a scumread on Matt to start the game. I also agree that TH is wasting his time looking at Matt for that reason.
My case on Matt has nothing to do with whether or not Mac had a scumread on him.

What do you think of sig and MM? Do you think either or both of them had something to do with BRs death? If you only had the two to choose from for a vote today which one would you vote for?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I dont mean to vanish. I was just getting some schooled work done to day and reacharing the ol mafia batteries.

But hi! Still here. If y'alll have anyontihng to shove in my face, go for it.

Linki: I can disappear at awill too.
What do you think of BR pointing her finger at sig and then dying?

Do you think sig/his team had anything to do with it? If not then any ideas who?

What do you think of Matt's post on TH? Agree or disagree?
BR didn't do herself any favors calling out a player who had the same item that she did, and including that in her reason.

A team had something to do with it definitely. I haven't given it any thought. I didn't make the connection that you pointed out until just now.

I think it's clear that MacDougall did not have a scumread on Matt to start the game. I also agree that TH is wasting his time looking at Matt for that reason. I don't know why Draconus voted for sig (I'll check it out later), but I like Matt's theory.

What do you think about this whole matter? I don't see your stance anywhere.

I agree she helped to make herself a target, but do you believe that sig would kill her for that or that someone is just setting her up?

So really? You didn't think to look back at BRs posts to see who might have felt threatened by her or have some reason to kill her? It's even been discussed in the thread..... And in your btsc chat room I would presume.

You like Matts theory about TH settings sig up? So if there were only two choices today. Sig and TH, who would you vote for?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I dont mean to vanish. I was just getting some schooled work done to day and reacharing the ol mafia batteries.

But hi! Still here. If y'alll have anyontihng to shove in my face, go for it.

Linki: I can disappear at awill too.

What do you think of BR pointing her finger at sig and then dying?

Do you think sig/his team had anything to do with it? If not then any ideas who?

What do you think of Matt's post on TH? Agree or disagree?

Black Rock wrote:I voted for sig. I'll likely being seeing over that other game for most of the night. If those players are easy on me I will be in here often enough.

Golden/Zebra = civ/civ if you ask me. A lot of things would have to change for me to vote one of them.

Besides seeing if your item from the Day 0 poll did anything as any of you given it anymore thought? I have, it's part of the reason I voted for sig.

So sig... Your thoughts on this post please.

Epignosis wrote:
You have 24 hours to lynch someone.

Liar!

Golden wrote:
Sorsha wrote:Ugh.... Sorry for missing it. I guess I slept too much today.

RIP zebra.
Do you know who you would have voted for?

I might have gone with eloh for the simple fact that I was leaning civ on zebra and I had no strong opinion on eloh. I'm not a fan of throwing my vote away so if imagine that's where I'd go.

Right now my main focus is on the player who self voted or had late throw away votes.

Ugh.... Sorry for missing it. I guess I slept too much today.

RIP zebra.

So.... Zebra implied something, golden didn't understand (or didn't believe) that it was an implication and picked zebra apart for it, zebra did over react a bit, golden found more things to dissect I zebras responses.

Is that basically the gist?

MacDougall wrote:
Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Sorsha wrote:I'm not feeling overly pinged by anyone here. Mac a little bit and sig a little bit.
Ping
That's interesting. Expand?
Fluff posts talking about how you have nothing to go by on day 1 is a scumtell.

Adding that you then actually have a little ping on two players is worse. A little ping on day 1 should be enough to encourage a townie to look deeper. Here it appears to be an attempt to feign town play.

Mild ping.

I will look deeper when I have time to. I'm at work now so I'm just pointing out what I see as I go. I can't make big posts on my phone very easy... Not that it would be a big post anyway, since it's just a small ping but thumb typing sucks for more than a few lines.

Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Sorsha wrote:I'm not feeling overly pinged by anyone here. Mac a little bit and sig a little bit.
Ping
That's interesting. Expand?

Yes, please expand.

I'm not feeling overly pinged by anyone here. Mac a little bit and sig a little bit.

Water didn't give me anything either. Except a thirst quencher later on.

I'm still digesting the Matt f/ Mac thing. I was a civvie tunneled by Matt last game so it's tempting to vote him

but I'd definitely be waiting to see if something else comes up before I place my vote. I'd rather go with a legit suspicion but those don't always come out on day one.

I've never played a closed set up before. We don't get to see win conditions either?

Hi Luke & Banana

I have read the book zero times but water seems like s good choice. I like water.

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