The Syndicate

You will be very, very disappointed with a sorsha lynch today. A civvie will die and the baddie gets to kill another tonight.

I have not "given up" as fz says above. I'm just aware of the fact that I don't have much going for me as far as proving I'm a civvie. And whenever I am around and able to talk, no one else is. I work third shift, sorry! And the reason for not voting the other day (falling asleep) was not a lie as you say, fz.... It really happened.

So I'm voting Bea. I'm at a sustainability conference right now for school and I will not be able to engage more than this post. Sorry again, but please don't lynch me, I'm not bad!

FZ. wrote:

bea wrote:there's no baddie kill tongiht.

and also -of us me and sorsha - who are you more suspish of?
and why?

Glad to know you read what I write
I said I think you're the civ and Sorsha is the baddie. Was I wrong to think that?

Yes.

Sorry.

And fz- you're wrong. The reason I didn't vote was because I fell asleep waiting for someone to answer me. But yes... I likely would have voted Bea again, blocking me would be stupid. I don't even have a pm to send in. If the blocker is still alive they should block Bea or whoever burgellcut is.

Kate- I don't feel great about Bea either but the vote she put on SVS that you cited is what has me thinking more civvie/ less baddie.

Also... What am I being obtuse about? I don't get role hints so if that's what you're talking about. Role hints don't mean jack anyway... Anyone can do them.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I don't see how a Kate vote would make sense. Inh... Do you think Kate vs Elo was baddie vs baddie?

I'm probably going to vote for DH. Re-reading his posts during the SVS/Kate lynch he seemed to be trying to steer it towards Kate. I don't recall if this was before or after his comment about thinking SVS was bad though... I'll go back and check.

Linki- ooookay.....

I wasn't the only one drinking the Kate Kool Aid at the time. Surely, you'd consider that.

Yes but this did come after you made the comment about not trusting SVS anymore. You were against the TH/llama push against SVS on day 1 & 2. Then you said:

DharmaHelper wrote:Well I am starting to feel sketched out by the whole "self preserve" schtick by SVS. >_>

Then day three you jumped on the Kate suspicion. While still trying to maintain your SVS "suspicion"

DharmaHelper wrote:Here Kate votes for herself to receive the prologue boon despite the rules against it. Perhaps an over eager mafia trying to get the prize and support before considering everything? Any time someone comes out of the gate with "For realsies guys I am a civ trust in me just in me" I get pinged:

Kate wrote:Thank you for the tributes! I love them!

ESP bwt!!

I am also going to vote Kate and ask every one else to as well, as i always do as a civ when a prize/ benefit is offered up front. I'm civ plain and simple. I'm a good choice.

If SVS is mafia (which I'm starting to think is more likely than not, all this indignation coming in), This could be seen as Kate helping to save her teammate with a drive-by vote. If SVS is taken out of the equation, then this is just a drive by vote IMO and those are just as bad. Could be Kate wants to get SVS on her side.

Kate wrote:I think good points have been made about dom. I'm sorry I don't have more time to post tonight. I'll be more active soon. Also SVS is reading civ to me thus far in this game and I think he may be trying to sway things her way. And I think he may know better.

Votes dom

In this post you are suspecting both SVS and Kate... so what made you go with Kate over SVS? Especially after SVS's two main accusers ended up dead/civvie.... what would tip you towards Kate? If you'd already said that you were starting to disbelieve SVS... why go with Kate?

I don't see how a Kate vote would make sense. Inh... Do you think Kate vs Elo was baddie vs baddie?

I'm probably going to vote for DH. Re-reading his posts during the SVS/Kate lynch he seemed to be trying to steer it towards Kate. I don't recall if this was before or after his comment about thinking SVS was bad though... I'll go back and check.

Linki- ooookay.....

Wth... I thought I had at least another hour. Sorry guys.

Good thing though.. I likely would have voted for Kate.

I don't trust Eloh or Kate but I'm leaning a bit more towards a Kate vote today. I feel like the only evidence against Eloh is that she slightly defended SVS at one point. Kate did so as well saying she thought the case llama had against SVS was a vendetta against her. Also, I re-read quite a few players last night and a lot of players were giving SVS the botd early on, myself included, not everyone of them could be baddies. What puts Kate a bit higher on the list are a couple of comments from SVS:

S~V~S wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Why are you all lynching Kate? I doubt she is bad.

Good defense.

I apparently don't need one today, lol.

I expected to come in here after work, and find myself 90% dead, and then this inexplicable turn of events happens.

I said previously that i suspent INH, and this kinda just reinforces it for me. No one has been talking about anything but me FOR DAYS, and now INH leads us to lynch...someone else? the only reason i can see for that is to keep the distraction around.

FZ. wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Why are you all lynching Kate? I doubt she is bad.

Is there anyone you would like to lynch? Because up until now, I don't think there is one person you mentioned for a lynch

Yes i did, I said i thought INH was suspicious like days ago, before he joined Llama & THs erroneous crusade on me. The whole Kate is bad case is mainly based on association with me, so why are people lynching her before me? They want to keep the distraction around, if i am the only topic of discussion, they can skate.

So that where my vote is going, since for once i have the luxury of not having to save myself. I am voting for INH

Here she is asking "why are you voting Kate? I doubt she is bad" and saying the case on Kate is based mainly on an association with her (SVS). Then trying to turn the lynch to inh.

I think if Kate was civvie SVS wouldn't really care if kate got the noose over her. She voted Dom out of self preservation, why not Kate? I'm seeing this as possible distancing, anyone else?

juliets wrote:

Epignosis wrote: I no longer need PMs from Vohnkar, Cherlindrea, or Nockmaar Death Dogs.

Cherlindrea
Searches for Elora Danan's guardian each Night. If she is successful (or if Elora Danan comes to her), she will return the child to Willow. If Willow is no more, she will return the child to someone she trusts.

Can someone help me out with this? Why would Epi no longer need pm's from Cherlinda? I understand why he doesn't need the Death Dog related pms since Bavmorda is dead but I don't understand why not Cherlindrea. Probably something I missed on my read through.

Because Bavmorda was the one looking for the baby? Now that Bav is dead the baby isn't really an issue anymore.... Thats my guess.


Kate, why did you think you wouldn't die if you got the most votes?

Sorry I got too busy at work and wasn't able to get on to vote. Good job getting the queen though!! Be back soon...

FZ. wrote: But Bea, here you are again, not really saying who you are suspicious of, not who you're not.
If people have little time to post, that's okay. No one says the game is more important than RL, but at least when you are here, share your suspicions and thoughts about people, so we know where you stand. Question people! If not, we'll get no where

Ditto to this. Bea has managed to be a non-factor in both lynches so far and hasn't really said much in the way of suspicions. I'd like to hear who she is suspicious of because I'm really accoustomed to more from her..... She isn't seeming like herself this game, busy or not.

Also Andrew is really quiet. Other then thinking fz is bad I don't know where he stands on anything.

And I'm not feeling the greatest on SVS now either... After finding out that her two main accusers were both civvies.

Voted dh

Turnip Head wrote:Why are you planning to vote for me Sorsha? Because I expressed suspicion of SVS?

Phrase it however you like. I am voting for you for the same reason I voted you yesterday... A vote you never even bother to address btw

Just because there are two front runners for a lynch doesn't mean I have to vote for one.

I don't know if SVS is civvie or not... All I have seen is her being under the knife from the very start of the game, I don't see the case on her, I don't find her suspicious so I'm not voting for her. And the suspicion on Dom came up pretty close to the end of the day and (IMO) what he was accused of doing was the same thing I saw from TH..... (jumping on the suspicion of SVS). The fact that Dom garnered the suspicion for it and not TH justified my suspicion of TH to myself, so I voted him... And will do so again today.

Linki- that's how I'm seeing it too kate

FZ. wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:
I almost typed the whole word too. [/ot]

you meant to say fudge, right?

Yes ma'am.

TH, the main thing I focused on with Dom was him saying that S~V~S had been spending more time on people she thought were bad than people who were civs (paraphrasing here). I referred to it as "outright lying" because it was, well, outright lying. S~V~S had spent so much time on Andrew, that most of the rest of her posts were her trying to defend herself. I know it's not much, but it was a Day 1 vote, and it was what felt strongest to me at the time. I was clearly wrong, but there's not a whole lot I can do to change it now. And I stand by my justification for it at the time.

So sorry, but not everyone who voted for Dom did so for the reason you claimed. I just proved otherwise. I will say that I felt FZ, Kate, and Sorsha gave the weakest reasons for voting for him. So I can safely rule out giving them a vote tonight.

I didn't even vote for Dom

Why did you vote for TH (was it him you voted for)? He didn't have any other votes and you had to know that vote would just go to waste. If you didn't mind Dom getting the votes, why not just vote him instead? Could it be that you knew he wasn't a baddie and wanted to look better later on?

If you know that I said "I don't mind Dom getting the votes" then you should know my explanation for voting TH.... It was in the same post.

.... And I voted myself because I'm the only one I trust so far.

What happened to all the Andrew voters from day one? If you guys thought he should be the apprentice why aren't you voting for him to get the acorns?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

Kate wrote:If that vote for me was actually a mistake, I'd ask you to kindly remove it! There may be unforeseen consequences. Also. If it was not, then by all means vote your conscience.

That "vote your conscience" line sounded like something Frank Underwood would say.

That's because you don't fu.....I mean mess with Frank Underwood.

I almost typed the whole word too.

you meant to say fudge, right?

Yes ma'am.

TH, the main thing I focused on with Dom was him saying that S~V~S had been spending more time on people she thought were bad than people who were civs (paraphrasing here). I referred to it as "outright lying" because it was, well, outright lying. S~V~S had spent so much time on Andrew, that most of the rest of her posts were her trying to defend herself. I know it's not much, but it was a Day 1 vote, and it was what felt strongest to me at the time. I was clearly wrong, but there's not a whole lot I can do to change it now. And I stand by my justification for it at the time.

So sorry, but not everyone who voted for Dom did so for the reason you claimed. I just proved otherwise. I will say that I felt FZ, Kate, and Sorsha gave the weakest reasons for voting for him. So I can safely rule out giving them a vote tonight.

I didn't even vote for Dom

I'm fine with Dom getting the vote but I'm going to place mine on TH. I think he was doing some of the same that Dom is being accused of... Jumping on the (llama) suspicions on SVS.

Votes th

Dom wrote:Th, I was thinking SVS was bad for different reasons. I think she has been way too active in saying who is civvie and not who is baddie.

Who has she said was civvie/ baddie other than her opinion on andrew.

I just reread the thread and she's been on defense since the get go, first from llama and now from TH. Nothing came across as baddie to me in her posts... And I agree with what fz just stated.... I'm looking closer at llama and TH because of the back and forth going on, than I am at SVS.

S~V~S wrote:I expected it to sound more...totally positive, i guess? The "Yay" thing turned into vicious dogs attacking (which was an odd coincidence due to the death dogs in D & D yesterday, but that was not what I meant). The death dogs part was unexpected, I guess.

It's been a while since I've seen the movie but iirc that's how it happen there. The death dogs came right after the apprentice prospects were showing off their skills. I don't think it has to do with the choice we made.

I'm not sure who I'm voting for yet, going to read day 0 again to see if anything jumps out at me.

I'm voting for Kate..... Let's have it be a battle between mother and son who wins this thing!

I'm cool with Andrew being the apprentice, I guess, but I'm going to hang on to my vote for now.


Also, hello everyone, don't let my username prejudice you against me