The Syndicate

The best way to describe why I want those two lynched is because I try and play with my gut and looking at every angle. I try to put myself in the mafia teams shoes. The way the mafia has played so far leads me to believe that they would want to kill both of those two before anyone else right now because Quinn has be acting super town and DDL has been one of , if not the top poster for sometime. They fit the pattern of who the mafia have been killing and yet they aren't dead. So that makes me think it's because they are the ones doing the killing. There is no sure fire way to find scum but that's the way I'm playing this game.

Sloonei wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:I want to duel Quinn because I think he is bad and I would love to be the one to beat him in a duel. I figured he felt the same. I don't see why he would decline my challenge unless he his scared he will flip bad in that case who wants a civ around you isn't welling to put their money where their mouth is.
I am sorry Bass, but none lf this makes sense to me. Suppose both of you are town. What does anyone have to gain by the two of you dueling? As of right now you've supplied us with 0 reason as to why you suspect Quin, and nothing about your wording suggests you have any special information. Perhaps you do. I don't know. But as of right now you have not even begun to convince me to vote for Quin, and I have no reason to vote for either of you. I also don't understand why you think anyone, town or scum, should invite votes right now. What if we send you to duel Quin and you lose? If you are town that's a completely unnecessary risk.
Who is your second suspect behind Quin?

But be honest what will anyone learn from my lynch? Nothing , that's what. People accuse me of being in cahoots with DDL but then says I just drove by and tried to start to bandwagons last vote. If that's the case why would I start a bandwagon on a team mate if I was mafia?

DDL duh. I'm going to be keeping my votes the same.

Well there is the treasure... Duh. I think it will give the civs as a whole a lot of info if Quinn dueled.

I want to duel Quinn because I think he is bad and I would love to be the one to beat him in a duel. I figured he felt the same. I don't see why he would decline my challenge unless he his scared he will flip bad in that case who wants a civ around you isn't welling to put their money where their mouth is.

Quinn I formally challenge you to a duel.

Golden wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:I have no problem dueling it's probably going to happen anyway. All I ask is if I can duel Quinn .
You seem very sure on Quin, but I don't really understand why. Is it just because you don't like the way he presented his suspicion on you, or are there other things that he has done?

Like I said its started as gut read then it might have became an obsession. I might be wrong, but I'm sticking to my guns.

I have no problem dueling it's probably going to happen anyway. All I ask is if I can duel Quinn .

Sloonei wrote:@ BASS The main question I want answered, if you don't feel like responding to everything I just wrote, is this: Why have you singled out Quin as your suspect recently? He is not the only talkative player in the game. What makes him more suspicious than the rest?

OK first the stuff about MP. The last few games I played here I was never around and never voted or posted and MP gave me a hard time for it in the past. When I asked the question Quinn pointed out it was just friendly banter between two friends.
Why am I only focusing on Quinn?
Because I had a slight town read early on but since has changed. Will pull stuff if I get to a laptop before day is up.

Quin wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Quin wrote:You don't think I have cause to scum-read you for trying to get me lynched because I'm not dead yet?

Okie.
Right here you say you "scum read" me because I'm trying to get you lynched. That's a No U. So which one is it?
No, it's not.

How is it not? Then what's your case against me? Besides me trying to get you lynched, which is why you read me as scum?

Golden wrote:Maybe, bass, but don't you see why it could be suspicious to have a guy who asks to be in the duel but then seems upset when he actually gets the votes to take him there?

Do you want to duel, or do you not want to duel? Was that a thing where it was only at a particular point in time?

Also the fact that no one noticed it or cared enough to bring it up when it first happened but then after I brought it up because I couldn't believe no one else did , people wanted to bandwagon me instead of getting all the facts. I think it was an easy target for a mafia member or someone who has been recruited.

At the time I didn't want to duel . Right now I'm fine dueling quin to prove he/she? Is bad.

Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Quin wrote:You don't think I have cause to scum-read you for trying to get me lynched because I'm not dead yet?

Okie.
So your case is a No U?
No, my case is that you used the fact that I haven't been killed yet as a means to try and start a lynch train on me (and DDL) without going to any effort as to back it up with any in-thread evidence. You also expressed an interest in duelling earlier, something I expressly stated I found suspicious. It flipped a scum MP so I see no reason not to consider that against you.

So what do you make of Simon doing the same?[/quote
He/she probably didn't notice it like she didn't notice I said till I pointed it out.]

Quin wrote:You don't think I have cause to scum-read you for trying to get me lynched because I'm not dead yet?

Okie.

Right here you say you "scum read" me because I'm trying to get you lynched. That's a No U. So which one is it?

Quin wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Quin wrote:You don't think I have cause to scum-read you for trying to get me lynched because I'm not dead yet?

Okie.
So your case is a No U?
No, my case is that you used the fact that I haven't been killed yet as a means to try and start a lynch train on me (and DDL) without going to any effort as to back it up with any in-thread evidence. You also expressed an interest in duelling earlier, something I expressly stated I found suspicious. It flipped a scum MP so I see no reason not to consider that against you.

Quin wrote:You don't think I have cause to scum-read you for trying to get me lynched because I'm not dead yet?

Okie.

So your case is a No U?

I don't understand why I'm being voted and also why I'm not being asked anything. It's like people are looking for the easiest bandwagon to jump onto and crossing their fingers hoping they Lynch a mafia team member. I haven't seen one solid case against me but I had 5 votes last poll. The only person I understand voting my way is Dom because he pointed out if my posting dropped then he would think I was bad . He is the only person who has gave a reason to vote me.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Doubling down on Bass. He was saved last day and that needs to be fixed.

Doubling down on Mac. I'm tired of him not even reading the posts accusing him. And going omgus on me after calling me a civ read multiple times early? Not classy, Mac.

Yes Im voting now. U mad? Come at me. If you guys wanna lynch me, let's make this fun.

How was I saved?

It seems super quiet today.

I feel like mafia are running this thread because Quin has been super vocal and use been night killed even after the fact she was all over MP day one or was it day two?

So you people think there is two people who are recruiting . That seems a little broke to me.

I don't want to miss this vote so I will go ahead and vote.

Talking in this game seems dangerous. Also if they are killing high posters and people who look like they are these civ leaders then why would they leave Quin alive ?

Wow why did I take so many votes?

Also, I thought saying I wanted to duel would get more heat then it did but it's like it went unnoticed.

Nutella out of those two could you really see them killing such active players?

I wouldn't mind dueling today.

Hey DDL, do you think most of the the people who are mafia are laying low or are they being active or... Are they in that sweet middle area flying under the radar?

I wish someone else was on right now.

Sloonei welcome to the game.

Golden wrote:This may already have been said by someone else, probably Rico lol, but I don't see MM voting Russti if they are partners. I think he would have voted earlier and tried to sway the second train away from Russti slightly more.

I agree with this.

It feels like we are missing a lot of people.

Ricochet wrote:I'd inquire people's vibes on Russ post-lynch, purely on the feeling that he's been less talked as the Duel 2 victor compared to how the Duel 1 victor was (Scotty). FWIW, while MM has been vocal about wanting to do the dance of swords with Russ and two fifths of the Nanmans have been revealed so far to be WIFOM burger chefs, I don't get the sense of him and Russ being teammates. MM even voted to push Russ into clear 2nd spot, which would be pretty defeatist.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I will be checking in and out all day at work so if anyone wants an option on anything just ask.
Dom.

A better grasp on your voting tactic from the previous Day, given that you've went for top wagon (MM) and zero wagon (yourself).

Some thoughts on who to consider for nomination toDay, based on the vote evolution (see my chart on previous page, if it helps) or any other criteria you might consider.

How's Roxy doing?

Roxy is doing better!
OK so I voted MM day one because I felt like he was just joking around the whole phase, and I've seen mafia hide behind that in games before and felt like it was a good place to start . When day two rolled around JJJ made a solid case which help confirm my suspicions of him . If I was able to vote early that day, I would have been among the first players to vote MM.
As for my self vote vote I didn't have time to catch up all the way because the site was acting funny and I didn't have any idea where I wanted to put my second vote so I voted myself.

I will be checking in and out all day at work so if anyone wants an option on anything just ask.

When I look over the player list I forget some people are playing because they aren't saying anything that sticks out to me , or not posting at all. I'm probably going to look into some of those people when I get off work and can use a laptop.

MP I'm glad you decided to stick it out.

OK I'm finally back. Sorry for not being around. Two mafia in the first two lynches, how about that. Way to go. It sucks JJJ and S~V~S got killed. Anyway what's new?

Sorry about the drive by votes but I literally just got off work and haven't read anything since about 11.
I voted MM and myself. I voted myself because a Bass beats a marmot everytime.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:JJJ why do you think some one would come out and call you bad in the right up?
The only person who knows the answer to that is the person who did it. I can do as much as guess:

This person suspects me to be bad, realizes that I tend to be difficult to lynch without behind-the-scenes influence, and tried to use his/her role power to motivate other people toward making that happen instead of compiling a case (which might genuinely be less effective for that objective).
I'm not going to lie to you, right now you are a slight mafia read on my list, but that's because of of the volunteering a strong civ in a dual thing.
I can understand that people disagree with that strategy. I have not endorsed actually applying it yet myself either, it's a circumstantial thing. Do you suggest that there is no circumstance that could possibly happen in this game where it might be prudent to consider an alternative to the obvious suspect vs. suspect dynamic?

It could definitely be a strategy used down the road, but I think it's to early to do it.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Expect gigantic MP catchup post some time within the next 24 hours. Probably towards the latter end of that spectrum though. It will happen.

Just realized the first day of Fall '16 isn't tomorrow, but Tuesday, so I don't have to teach my first class until Wednesday. I love teaching, but given my current time crunch, that was a pleasant surprise of extra time.

I can't wait. What are your thoughts about my game so far?

I also I agree with Scotty why are people giving him civ cred for winning the dual? Couldn't he have just rolled better then the Doctor?

Scotty who is on your short list to dual today.

As for Dom it seems like he is playing for fun and I haven't seen him use this tactic as a mafia member before so I'm leaning town.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:JJJ why do you think some one would come out and call you bad in the right up?
The only person who knows the answer to that is the person who did it. I can do as much as guess:

This person suspects me to be bad, realizes that I tend to be difficult to lynch without behind-the-scenes influence, and tried to use his/her role power to motivate other people toward making that happen instead of compiling a case (which might genuinely be less effective for that objective).

I'm not going to lie to you, right now you are a slight mafia read on my list, but that's because of of the volunteering a strong civ in a dual thing.

JJJ why do you think some one would come out and call you bad in the right up?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I didn't like Russ's recent "Congratulations on lynching Wilgy, guys!" It doesn't feel honest.

I think I'm voting for him today.

Didn't he post something first, then followed up with "oh and good Lynch" or was that someone else.

Also The Doctor flipping bad is awesome. He is really hard to read through all the jokes.

Glorfindel wrote:
Dom wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:Given there was no NK, may we assume that Zhang Jiao is one of the non participating players in this game so far? Someone who perhaps didn't post from the latter part of Day 1 onwards perhaps?
This seems presuming !

What secrets do you know ? Or what do you want all of us-- the regular people-- to think?
This is not a matter of knowing any secrets, my friend - it's simple logic. If you can come up with another plausible explanation for the lack of ANY NK well, I'm listening...

Maybe a kill protection... Or you could be right . I feel like odds are about the same.

OK I won't be around much before the end if the poll so I'm going to go ahead and vote.
My first vote will be for Scotty because most of his post have seemed like filler to me then and that of substance besides him trying to be prefect . Then his votes seems like throw away votes to me.
My second vote will be for MM because he has been active and not really added anything to the thread beside enough to look active. That seems like flying under the radar to me.

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