The Syndicate

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JJJ you keep saying that you want to get people tallking more about other people but why arent you using some of the stuff you did in the last game we played together like the Gun to the Head reads?

Epignosis wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Note that Bass has not voted to save himself.
That means nothing to me besides that he's lazy, like usual.
I don't agree. I've been on a team with Bass before.

Thank you.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Golden wrote:@JJ - read the role cards, one of them (into the woods?) decides. But we think they may be dead.
i can't find them? i see the "character" list in the OP, but nothing about about role mechanics.

lol if that's been somewhere this whole time and i didn't notice

It was sent in a PM you had to de-code I think.

Not lazy just super busy. If I die I think everyone should take a look at scotty, notice how he is always trying to bring up the people who arent around and dont post. It could be him trying to get people to vote the non posters and then he could kill the more vocal players. Its kinda a smart plan.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:I will say if you guys choose to lynch me you will be lynching a civ so why not skip that and vote either Nutella or Cobalt.
i can do absolutely nothing with this post and am inclined to proceed as if it had never existed.
Sorry man I have said why I think both are bad. If I had time I would explain again but its Friday and I have shit to do. If you will like I deserve to be lynch please lynch me I have cool with that. You will be lynching a civ and maybe you can see who all jumps on the bandwagon and go from there.

Wow just read over this and realized how many errors there are.
Sorry man I have said why I think both are bad. If I had time I would explain again but its Friday and I have shit to do. If you think I deserve to be lynch please lynch me I'm cool with that. You will be lynching a civ and maybe you can see who all jumps on the bandwagon and go from there.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:I will say if you guys choose to lynch me you will be lynching a civ so why not skip that and vote either Nutella or Cobalt.
i can do absolutely nothing with this post and am inclined to proceed as if it had never existed.

Sorry man I have said why I think both are bad. If I had time I would explain again but its Friday and I have shit to do. If you will like I deserve to be lynch please lynch me I have cool with that. You will be lynching a civ and maybe you can see who all jumps on the bandwagon and go from there.

I am voting Cobalt. Happy Friday everyone.

I will say if you guys choose to lynch me you will be lynching a civ so why not skip that and vote either Nutella or Cobalt.

My suspects are still Cobalt and Nutella.

I vote late in almost every game I play.

Cobalt wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Cobalt wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:Ok so I'm going to vote cobalt. His game play has read bad to me all game.
Lol, you're so unbelievably bad.
Why because I have suspected you all game?
You suspected me early game because you thought LC was normal/civilian after reading over everything. If you honestly think that was a planned-out, elaborate bus job and that's why you find me suspicious you can kindly shove that POV where the sun don't shine.

In fact, you didn't say my name once between Day Two when you voted me, and Day 6 when you said if you voted, you would have voted Nutella or Cobalt.

So please, KINDLY point me to where you suspected me "all game". Pretty weak as far as I can see, as though you're trying to take credit for heat that you never actually put on me. In fact, you only started saying "all game" this phase, even though you don't have the post history to back it up.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Cobalt has looked bad all game to me or at least indy his actions havent read civvie at all to me.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Ok so I'm going to vote cobalt. His game play has read bad to me all game.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Cobalt wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:Ok so I'm going to vote cobalt. His game play has read bad to me all game.
Lol, you're so unbelievably bad.
Why because I have suspected you all game?
You're trying to take credit for something that you simply did not do.

Your early suspicion of me was ALL based on me going after Long Con - and GUESS WHAT? Long Con was bad, and I was fucking right.

Did you ever once pause to re-examine the situation, or are you honestly going to claim that that early suspicion still stands even though I caught a baddie night 0 and nobody gave me any fucking credit until his bitch ass finally dropped?

How can that suspicion still stand? How can you claim that you've been suspicious of me "all game" if your early suspicions were proven unwarranted?

To answer your question:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Cobalt who do you suspect and why?
You. Because of this. Thanks for giving me what I needed.

Where did I ever say didn't suspect you? I'm not try to take any credit for suspecting you
The reason I suspected you was because how you gave no reasons for going after him besides that he fooled you in some other game. Say you caught a baddie day zero is so funny. You took a shot in the dark and guessed right, wow great job.
You act like you aree making these wonderful cases that are getting baddies lynched and to me that seems like you are trying to take credit for the LC and BR lynch.

Cobalt wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:Ok so I'm going to vote cobalt. His game play has read bad to me all game.
Lol, you're so unbelievably bad.

Why because I have suspected you all game?

Cobalt who do you suspect and why?

Ok so I'm going to vote cobalt. His game play has read bad to me all game.

Scotty wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:If I voted I would have voted Nutella or Cobalt.
Why?

And MM, welcome back! Did you learn anything or have any observations from your time off?

Nutella as been flying so low this game. I mean I cant say I have been playing different but I also havent been around as much as she has. I feel like she has been going with what the crowd has been saying. I get people having gut reads but this late in the game with how many baddies have been lynched one of you strongest suspicions shouldn't be because of a gut read.

Cobalt has looked bad all game to me or at least indy his actions havent read civvie at all to me.

Sloonei wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:So sloonei when you make your rainbow list how do you label indys ?
I don't. I rate everyone according to how suspicious I find them.

I get what you are saying. I guess I was a bit confused because people always have red as a strong mafia read. Thats why I asked.

So sloonei when you make your rainbow list how do you label indys ?

If I voted I would have voted Nutella or Cobalt.

Voted to think

RIP TB
Sorry about missing the vote was out watching fireworks.

catching up now

G-man why didnt you try to defend yourself? Instead you just asked people to keep voting for you so you could use some kind of role power that might have helped the civs later down the road. This comes off bad to me and for that reason I'm voting for you .

Voted Miss Saigon. I really enjoyed seeing Les Miserables live.

Well I need to vote and I voting nutella I feel like she is the one blending in while trying to call me out to take heat off herself.

nutella wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:Nutella can you please answer my question?
Whoops missed it, sorry. But I have stated my reasons for suspecting you, multiple times. There's one post in particular from earlier in the game, I can go find it, but it's the same one that BR pointed out as really baddie-like. In general you've been blending in a lot and going along with popular suspicions in the thread, and your style/posts in general give me a really strong baddie read.

Well like I said I can't help that the people I suspect are the popular suspects. I feel like I have posted way more this game then I have in past game so I don't know how it seems like I'm blending in a lot this game. I think if that can be said about me then the same could be said about you.

Nutella can you please answer my question?

Also I have never hosted a game but it seems like when people need replaced the people who are mafia get replaced first. I could be wrong but thats how it seems to me.

fingersplints wrote:So I've been reading from the beginning. I think that of LC vs Cobalt. Cobalt looks worse to me, but I am not sure I am suspicious of either yet earlier. I think that it is understandable for him to be a bit wary of LC because of the 90's game on JTM, but it seemed pretty extreme. Now it seems to be a joke

I felt like MP (Now Epi 2.0) was kind of winding Cobalt up earlier. I still don't understand this one:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I have every intention to continue my newfound love of rainbow lists, if at all possible, since I do find them particularly helpful in organizing my own thoughts and feelings on players, and I have to keep up the self-imposed moniker of Rainbow Sockman somehow!

I will put them in spoiler tags though, so that people may read them at their discretion.

Spoiler: show
MovingPictures07 wrote:TASTE THE RAINBOW

Devin the Omniscient
Epignosis

Bass_the_Clever
Birdwithteeth11
Black Rock
Bullzeye
DFaraday
Dragon D. Luffy
DREAM
fingersplints
Golden
Gumshoe
Hedgeowl
Long Con
Metalmarsh89
Neverwhere
nijuukyugou
nutella
Scotty
sig
Sloonei
S~V~S
timmer
TinyBubbles
Turnip Head
XthAtGAm3RGuYX

Cobalt

For reference:
Very strong civilian read
Strong civilian read
Moderate civilian read
Slight civilian read
Very slight civilian read
No read or unsure
Very slight mafia read
Slight mafia read
Moderate mafia read
Strong mafia read
Very strong mafia read
Come at me, Cobalt.
What would he have to 'come at you' for? The 'very slight mafia read'. idk the whole thing seemed over the top.

I also find Bass suspicious. This post here caught my eye on I've read all his posts now.

What bothered me on there is Epi asked him to read LC and tell him if there is anything suspicious. Instead of doing that bass asks a couple questions of Epi: "Is it because there are only six post, 3 of which are fluff posts?"
"Is it the MP/Epi shoving match post?"

Providing reasons it COULD be suspicious without actually committing that he found LC suspicious for those reasons.

Reading through his posts he is asking a lot of questions of others, and I also feel like he is being a bit careful with his wording about LC. Here he mentions feeling bad about LC, but already feeling better about him in the same posts. But then gives excuses why he might be wrong about it.

Gonna keep reading now. I was still pretty early in the game when I switched to the Bass read so
sorry if any of this has already been discussed a ton.

Ok I think this is the post you are talking about. I wasn't really sure how I felt about LC besides the fact that I thought it looked shady that he moved his vote. After that I was catchingg up and LC seemed to be ok so thats why I said he was in a grey area. I agree that LC has been defending most this game. Can you please explain how I was trying to be careful with my wording about LC?

nutella wrote:I don't think Gman can even do the color thing because the insanifier randomly colors words. Even if he was allowed, it could change some of them.

I'd be okay with lynching him. I'm not fully convinced on the case against him but some people that I mostly trust seem really confident, and the result should help us search for his (if he is bad) or sig's teammates.

Bass is still my top suspect personally but that doesn't seem to be catching on. I encourage others to consider him as well.

Can you please tell me your reasons why you think i'm bad or is it because you trust what other people think?

Sloonei wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:If anyone has anything to ask me pleasse do I will be around most of the day.
how do you respond to the assertion others have made that all the reads you've expressed have just been the thread's popular opinion?

I can't help thats who I think is bad. I understand why it could look bad but I am trying to voice my opinions more this game. Would it be better if I suspected someone who people thought was civ and said "oh it's just a gut feeling." I have been trying to use thread evidence.

Ok im posting as I read so if this has already been talked about sorry.
When I voted for myself i had two votes already I think it was Black Rock and Nutella I dont like how they moved their votes from me to sig after the lynch was pretty much decided. Why not stick to your top suspect.
Oh and I voted myself because my internet was messed up and was cool with being lynched because of it.

fingersplints wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I agree about g-man and am still on the fence about Bass.
I see this post where you give reasons for suspecting Bass and a few others, but a lot has happened since then. Do you have anything to add to your case of Bass? How has your read on Bass changed since you first mentioned it?
A lot hasn't happened in regards to bass though. He hasn't answered that post so it sticks out all the more to me. He said he was trying harder this game but a lot of his early posts felt like he was asking more questions instead of providing suspicions. He then had a spike of energy and has since gone quiet. and I think his self vote was weird. My read on him hasn't changed much. I continue to be suspicious of him.

Splints can you please give me a link to the post you would like me to answer. If not I will dig around for it after I catch up.

If anyone has anything to ask me pleasse do I will be around most of the day.

alright catching up now.

Hey everyone I have internet issues and dont know if its going to be fix tonight or in the morning so im going to go ahead and vote for myself.

I need to vote now because I wont be back till after the deadline.
Voting Cobalt.

Black Rock wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Golden wrote:I'd really like to get a few people's views on Black Rock.
I was hoping I'd wake up to BR's response to my questions.

Since people are voting already, I'll explain what's on my mind:

On this forum, if you leave an unpublished post in a tab for too long, it will say something to the effect of "The submitted form is no longer valid" or "This page has expire; please refresh." I forget the exact wording, but I know it has happened from time to time to me. It's no big deal: You hit F5 and your content is still there.

But Black Rock made it sound like posting what she did was an accident, like she had the wrong tab open or something (one that was left up for 12 hours?). Plus the "I forgot to press submit once and came back 12 hours later to see my post sitting there and then it got caught up in linkitis and then I failed" doesn't make sense from a technical standpoint.

Just picked up a third job by accident last night and I have been working all day, sorry to disappoint you. I'm actually at this post...

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Who are your suspects today Bass?
My top suspect is still cobalt. When I was doing my six page catch up I got a bad vibe from LC when he switched his vote after saying he wasnt going to be around. Today LC is starting to read more normal to me, so I have him in a gray area. The problem i'm having is trying to remember what mafia LC looks like. I know he was Indy in RR but I think the only game I have seen him be bad in was my first mafia game ever Supernatural Mafia on Rev. I got a slight ping from DF when he made the comment about me not saying anything because I think this is the most I have ever posted in a game this early. I felt like he is skipping over stuff and I tend to think baddies skim and skip stuff because they arent really worried about catching any mafia.

There are a lot of people who I would like to hear more from when they get caught up.
What? Flash ring any bells?
Posted to quick. This post sounds like you are talking out your ass, no offense. You smell bad.
Really? What part of it or the whole thing?
The whole thing, I feel like most of your posts have been opportunistic.

For TH, my post that didn't post just said I'm keeping a close eye on you just because. Trying to rev you up.

Dinner is now ready, it's my brother in laws birthday and so I will be back after we eat and sing happy birthday or something. I hope the poll isn't over soonish. I'll address Epig then.

Golden you are full of shit if you think I'm posting less content in early game than normal. I'm BR that's what I do unless I have an info role to lead the way.

What do you mean opportunistic?

Golden wrote:I'd really like to get a few people's views on Black Rock.

I think Black Rock has been super quiet and said just enough just to get by. I will be keeping my eye on her.

Black Rock wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Who are your suspects today Bass?
My top suspect is still cobalt. When I was doing my six page catch up I got a bad vibe from LC when he switched his vote after saying he wasnt going to be around. Today LC is starting to read more normal to me, so I have him in a gray area. The problem i'm having is trying to remember what mafia LC looks like. I know he was Indy in RR but I think the only game I have seen him be bad in was my first mafia game ever Supernatural Mafia on Rev. I got a slight ping from DF when he made the comment about me not saying anything because I think this is the most I have ever posted in a game this early. I felt like he is skipping over stuff and I tend to think baddies skim and skip stuff because they arent really worried about catching any mafia.

There are a lot of people who I would like to hear more from when they get caught up.
What? Flash ring any bells?
Posted to quick. This post sounds like you are talking out your ass, no offense. You smell bad.

Really? What part of it or the whole thing?

Black Rock wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Who are your suspects today Bass?
My top suspect is still cobalt. When I was doing my six page catch up I got a bad vibe from LC when he switched his vote after saying he wasnt going to be around. Today LC is starting to read more normal to me, so I have him in a gray area. The problem i'm having is trying to remember what mafia LC looks like. I know he was Indy in RR but I think the only game I have seen him be bad in was my first mafia game ever Supernatural Mafia on Rev. I got a slight ping from DF when he made the comment about me not saying anything because I think this is the most I have ever posted in a game this early. I felt like he is skipping over stuff and I tend to think baddies skim and skip stuff because they arent really worried about catching any mafia.

There are a lot of people who I would like to hear more from when they get caught up.
What? Flash ring any bells?

OMG I forgot maybe if someone didnt lie to me that game I would remember who was really bad that game. lol

TH who are you suspects right now?

Turnip Head wrote:Who are your suspects today Bass?

My top suspect is still cobalt. When I was doing my six page catch up I got a bad vibe from LC when he switched his vote after saying he wasnt going to be around. Today LC is starting to read more normal to me, so I have him in a gray area. The problem i'm having is trying to remember what mafia LC looks like. I know he was Indy in RR but I think the only game I have seen him be bad in was my first mafia game ever Supernatural Mafia on Rev. I got a slight ping from DF when he made the comment about me not saying anything because I think this is the most I have ever posted in a game this early. I felt like he is skipping over stuff and I tend to think baddies skim and skip stuff because they arent really worried about catching any mafia.

There are a lot of people who I would like to hear more from when they get caught up.

Turnip Head wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Golden's vote switch looks legit to me. His vote was useless on Hedgeowl, I was seeing if he would end up changing it.

I think the Epignosis kill was designed to make us keep looking at LC and Cobalt today. I don't have too many suspects at this point but my gut is telling me to look at Nutella more. Hedgeowl is still on my radar for general blendiness. I also thought Blooper's vote was... interesting.

Sig seems okay to me but I want to look more into the interactions surrounding him.
Here you say that the kill could be designed to make us keep looking at LC and Cobalt, but is it out of the question for the mafia to do it and play the wifom card?
It's not out of the question, I just think the wifom angle is less likely. Doesn't prohibit LC or Cobalt being on the mafia team that didn't kill Night 1, but I don't think either of them are on the team that killed Epi, because it so obviously leads to continued focus on those two.

IMO it's not very fun to play the wifom card as a baddie, and I think LC and Cobalt are both more inventive than that, especially against a foe like Epi. Cobalt in particular did not seem phased by Epi's approach toward him.

How would they know Epi would come back.

DFaraday wrote:
Sloonei wrote:@DFaraday, I agree with your last point in that post. For better or worse, Cobalt and Long Con are, right now, the two players who just about everyone has an opinion on, and it's unlikely that they'll go away quietly (nor should they). I also agree that Cobalt looks the worse of the two.
But it's also important to make sure they're not the only two names we discuss today. Have you got any thoughts about any of the under the radar players?
Splints is someone I expect to hear more meaningful content from. I also can't really recall Bass or BWT saying anything, so I'd like their input. Otherwise, no real opinion of the low posters.

Well not to come off like a smart ass but I have more then double your post so far this game so maybe you should just click the my in topic button and and check my input out. lol

Turnip Head wrote:Golden's vote switch looks legit to me. His vote was useless on Hedgeowl, I was seeing if he would end up changing it.

I think the Epignosis kill was designed to make us keep looking at LC and Cobalt today. I don't have too many suspects at this point but my gut is telling me to look at Nutella more. Hedgeowl is still on my radar for general blendiness. I also thought Blooper's vote was... interesting.

Sig seems okay to me but I want to look more into the interactions surrounding him.

Here you say that the kill could be designed to make us keep looking at LC and Cobalt, but is it out of the question for the mafia to do it and play the wifom card?

Sloonei wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:Sorry everyone for not voting I got super drunk yesterday and forgot. I would have voted Cobalt he never addressed any of the points he made he commented on one thing I said and I think he was wrong about what he commented on, but I will have to go back and look to make sure.
Who would you say are the next scummiest players ever after Cobalt?

I just caught up, but when I was reading I kept getting this bad vibe from LC I want to go over all his post like I did with Cobalt and get a better read on him.

Sorry everyone for not voting I got super drunk yesterday and forgot. I would have voted Cobalt he never addressed any of the points he made he commented on one thing I said and I think he was wrong about what he commented on, but I will have to go back and look to make sure.

Thank you sir.

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