The Syndicate

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Unknown wrote:Or I can quote the part I want to talk about and be able to quote multiple posts without opening a million tabs.
Who was I talking to again?

Sorry, no harm meant. I'm going to bed.

I screwed up my own joke.

Unknown wrote:Or I can quote the part I want to talk about and be able to quote multiple posts without opening a million tabs.

Who was talking to again?

Sorry, no harm meant. I'm going to bed.

Made wrote:Also, MM was forced voted/voted hella early?

In response to your question to me yesterday Made, why'd you vote so early today?

Linki: No wess for you.

Mongoose wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Hells bells, I sneak out to yoga and this thread explodes. I scanned for my name and didn't see it (other than being in some quote chains), so holler at your local friendly neighborhood mongoose if I missed anything, sweet peas.
You just planning on skating by without anything to offer if we don't mention your name?
Dude, I'm running my own game. And I've been commenting plenty, notwithstanding junky OT tomfoolery. I'm far from a Low Poster. Not wanting to respond to everything in a fast-moving stream of consciousness thread is hardly tantamount to hiding behind Roxy's apron strings.

Didn't mean to upset you Mongoose. You're clearly paying attention and helping, but had that comment come from someone less active player, I definitely would have been pinged.

S~V~S wrote:See, now this is the part that bothers me. Do like 4 or 5 civvies have BTS? Becasue it feels like several people are trying, ACTIVELY trying to keep Made from being lynched.

Maybe they're all French, and using the fact that we don't know the roles in their favor?

Mongoose wrote:Hells bells, I sneak out to yoga and this thread explodes. I scanned for my name and didn't see it (other than being in some quote chains), so holler at your local friendly neighborhood mongoose if I missed anything, sweet peas.

You just planning on skating by without anything to offer if we don't mention your name?

Enrique wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Reading this now, but why wait so long to post this Made? The day ends in one minute?
Um.

Exactly?

That's pretty standard, isn't it? Why Nights are usually so quiet?

Is it standard? I'm probably being too paranoid; I seem to have the thought stuck in my head that Made is bad.

Roxy wrote:
Dennis wrote:
There are other people in this thread besides Made, Enqriue and llama, she said she said she said, why not give someone else a chance to talk, she said she said? I tell you what, it's always the same thing. One or two people suck all the oxygen out of the room and every else gets ignored. Typical class structure. What we need is more egalitarian. Talk to the looneys keeping quiet and see what they have to say. Turn up the heat on them until it's hot enough to boil a monkey's bum. If I had my way, there would be equal time for all, Otherwise, you have all these conflicts playing favourites and colouring everyone else's opinions. Not on my watch.

Oh and remove your head from the sand. Yeah, what's with all this Off-Topic nonsense? Don't they realize we have scum to catch? I love the photo of your accessory-sized toy Maltipoo in your overpriced handbag, but let's stay on task, people. C'mon, Canuck, no one is getting what you are throwing about the lynch switch, sister. Maybe try some smoke signals or an interpretative dance?

You've caught me. My gameplan was to post so much that people couldn't keep up, and since they wouldn't post much as a result, I would point the finger of suspicion at them.

I do not feel bad anymore for my speculation of Epi on Day 1. Goodbye Epi.

Reading this now, but why wait so long to post this Made? The day ends in one minute?

Canucklehead wrote:Anywho, lovers, I don't want to derail with this. I just wanted to make sure that we're considering all possibilities. Most of you are so super sure that Made is bad that I think you'll be inclined to view the lynch results as a baddie switch regardless of whether or not you correctly glom on to my thinking here, so it's maybe irrelevant. It's cool. I get it. Like I said earlier, there is a lot of shit piling up at Made's feet, and I get why most of you don't seem to see it as mere coincidence.

Well you know, it's not just because AP was lynched that we think Made is bad. He was leading the poll after all. And yes, I don't want to immediately jump to the conclusion that Made is a baddie lynch-switcher, but due to the circumstances, I am strongly entertaining the idea.

I meant it DOES make sense, bea.

I'm going to bed now.

Dana wrote:Bea if you drank all that I am like 90% sure you'd be very very dead.

bea wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:You confuse me. I wish I was drinking right now, but alas, I am hanging out in my friend's office where I don't think drinking is permitted.

I don't mean to confuse. I was just saying that drfunk me tends to be more conscious of spelling errors than sober me. Though both of us try to find and fix them.

And aslo svs takes the risks of posting from her phone when she's on the bus. I tend to lurk when I'm in her position. I admire her because she takes that risk of getting her raw thought out there in the open.

Does that make more sense?

linkie - by any chance do you weigh as much as duck?

Yes it makes no sense.

And I choose not to answer that question. I don't wanna get lynched (or burned).

Linki: What if she drank 90% of that, would you be 100% sure she'd be dead?

I'M INVINCIBLEEEE!

You confuse me. I wish I was drinking right now, but alas, I am hanging out in my friend's office where I don't think drinking is permitted.

And yet you can still type better than SVS.

bea wrote:
thellama73 wrote:You misunderstand me, bea. I am not at all sad that no one picked apples. I am sad that a large number of people appear not to know that apples float based on what was said in the thread. I think voting "churches" is hilariously supatown.
ok - so I missed where everyone said they didn't think apples floated in the thread. That's totally fair. I'm oficially dfunk and happy it's night time.

dfunk = Daft Punk? da funky dunk spelunk

thellama73 wrote:
Keterman wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Hey guys, let's fill up dozens of pages with Monty Python reference silliness to make it impossible for anyone checking in late to catch up!
How dare you!
I dare because I am supatown.

You want us to spam a lot?

GOD wrote:I am the LORB (Lord of the Bible) and the LORD in general, thou shalt not ridicule my followers for typos. You of all people should get that, SVS.

If I see so much as one LOL, you cannot be a bear. So I have said, so it will be. Unless you bring me a nice parchment, with fancy curlicues on it, and perhaps some wax and ribbons. That might make up for it.

Linki: those poor newts. Wait... if the Lorb... turned them into newts... he must be made of wood... and he's a witch? What does this mean, oh Lorb?

GOD wrote:The Lord asks that you show me pictures and tell me tales of the Holy Grail. You too can be a marmot

Silly GOD™, you gave it to the French, remember?

^*women

thellama73 wrote:
Enrique wrote:Yeah llama I really should have the whole game figured out from the get-go shouldn't I :/
You should have opinions on people by now, yes. How long do you expect to coast by with "well, gee! I sure don't know who's good or bad. How could I?" Take a stand. Be a man.

This game is also full of woman who speak their thoughts, and not because they want chest hair.

thellama73 wrote:Also, the thing that infuriates me about both Enrique and Mad and makes me want to lynch them off the face of the planet is their outright refusal to say they think anyone is bad. Maybe it's a culture of sites they came from, but it reads VERY VERY shifty to me. They will both point out behavior and say "look at this" but when pressed, neither will say "I think X is bad." In fact, Enrique repeatedly said he thought I was not bad, after saying that my behavior was that of a traditional baddie. Both of you, who do you think is bad? Straight answers, no dawdling.

This. So much this.

S~V~S wrote:MM. it depends on the host. Some hosts allow a switch to anyone. I don;t recall offhand what Roxys position is on that. I have also seen hosts allow a switch up to X minutes after a lynch has ended. The things that hosts have done is legion And Roxy is more innovative than most.

I think it had to be a switch.

And one more day alive is a good day, Made.

I'll keep that in mind.

Fair enough, and Made reeks of baddie, but someone else could have just as easily switched it for the easy setup tomorrow.

I'll sleep on these thoughts then. Also I voted cider because cider is AMAZING.

Linki: Enrique, by golly I've tried. If you have hidden somewhere some reason you would have for voting for Made I would like to see it. I've read through your posts twice in the last 24 hours. You've asked Made a question a couple times, but NOWHERE have you stated any sort of stance. Your interactions with him look like distancing to me. You could make things easier for me and yourself. Instead of making me look for something that isn't there, again, tell me why you voted for Made. Why do you think he's bad? Why can't you just answer the question?

Made wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Made wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Made, you are so freakin' bad I can't even stand it. That whole "oh, llama is muted? I must have been framed!" nonsense came out WAY too fast and seemed preplanned. Then you switch the lynch to poor AP? Not cool, man.
It's called mafia on your cell phone+ telling canuck I wouldn't self incriminate. Obviously I would of been a suspect.

Also for all those who think I switched the vote (if it's not just llama):
Why would a mafia keep themselves alive if everyone already distrust them?
Linki- bullz I didn't actually know that...misread DH then
Why the hell wouldn't a baddie keep themselves alive? Especially at the cost of a civ life.
Because they'll die the next day. Who would waste a switch lynch on a situation where they're all but guaranteed a death on the next lynch

Linki- MM's arguement is strong...NOT TRUE, but strong.

Now, now, I was merely being hypothetical.

Enrique wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Per Enrique. He spent a large portion of yesterday arguing against llama and myself (and others) that the case against Made was not nearly enough to lynch him. Not only that, but he said he didn't believe it to be true anyway. Following that, he refused to give any stance on Made regarding the incident, but continued to push against llama.

Enrique wrote:Bea I'm gonna be fair here... I've had games before where I came strongly in defense of somebody from the beginning, but then turned out wrong. Can't remember the specific players but this happened at least twice >_> Now, Made hasn't given me billions of reasons to trust him yet, but I think the case against him is BS and I'm sticking to that. The sarcastic orange did give me a little pause, and jeez how I'd hate to be wrong, but I'd sooner vote for some other people than him.
Here's an example from Day 1. Very non-commital.

Enrique wrote:
DFaraday wrote:So much to look over. I'm always wary of going after MP so early just because he is often lynched over nothing (although he was justly caught last time). I don't know Enrique or Made at all, so tomorrow I'll go over their stuff and see what jumps out.
You.
Fuck.
You've known me for years, asshole
And then there is this post that strikes me as odd. I don't remember who said it before, but why would DFaraday say such a thing if they actually know each other. Could it have been pre-meditated? DFaraday says Ni.

Enrique wrote:Metalmarsh I did not argue for the civvieness of Made, as if I needed to say this again, I've never had a clue as to what his role was. All I knew is that the original argument was far from a VERY solid point. Honestly, I'm not even gonna get into all this WIFOM. May even end up voting for Made, lol, we'll see how things develop.
Again he clarified that he did not think that Made is a civ, which makes it even more peculiar that he would argue against llama's case so vigorously. Maybe I'll just ask the question to see if I get an actual answer.

Enrique, what are your thoughts on Made? Do you think he is good or bad? Should we lynch him?

LOL you're so not reading my posts. Why do I bother? It's already a pain to post from mobile and there's nothing I could answer that I haven't said before.

btw, reading the build up to the deadline, and Made remained wayyy calmer this time than any of the previous times he's been up for a lynch (here and on Misfits).

Sooo, why did you vote for him?

Made wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Made, you are so freakin' bad I can't even stand it. That whole "oh, llama is muted? I must have been framed!" nonsense came out WAY too fast and seemed preplanned. Then you switch the lynch to poor AP? Not cool, man.
It's called mafia on your cell phone+ telling canuck I wouldn't self incriminate. Obviously I would of been a suspect.

Also for all those who think I switched the vote (if it's not just llama):
Why would a mafia keep themselves alive if everyone already distrust them?
Linki- bullz I didn't actually know that...misread DH then

If your role was to switch a vote, why wouldn't you? Might as well use that role before you die?

Linki: agreed

Here's my thoughts llama. Typically, a player can't have a lynch switched to them unless they have a vote. That means Made had less than 60 seconds to see that AP self-voted, tell the hosts he wants the lynch switched to him, and for DisPor to make such corrections and include a video. This is all banking on my first point though.

I hope I don't get in trouble for this speculation, lol.

Linki: @ Enrique, I switched at the last second. My vote was previously on Made.

thellama73 wrote:Made, you are so freakin' bad I can't even stand it. That whole "oh, llama is muted? I must have been framed!" nonsense came out WAY too fast and seemed preplanned. Then you switch the lynch to poor AP? Not cool, man.

What? switch to AP? Wasn't that also a quick jump to conclusions?

But I agree on the other points.

Though it's probably too late anyway.

Linki: well now it definitely is.

Linki x2,: Noooooooo, Mattmatt

I'm switching to Enrique. His vote for Made convinced me.

Epignosis wrote:
Made wrote:Anyway you cut it, the best person to mute would be Llama.
I'd like a minute for rebuttal.

You can have 6.

Welcome back, no bear meat for dinner?

Per Enrique. He spent a large portion of yesterday arguing against llama and myself (and others) that the case against Made was not nearly enough to lynch him. Not only that, but he said he didn't believe it to be true anyway. Following that, he refused to give any stance on Made regarding the incident, but continued to push against llama.

Enrique wrote:Bea I'm gonna be fair here... I've had games before where I came strongly in defense of somebody from the beginning, but then turned out wrong. Can't remember the specific players but this happened at least twice >_> Now, Made hasn't given me billions of reasons to trust him yet, but I think the case against him is BS and I'm sticking to that. The sarcastic orange did give me a little pause, and jeez how I'd hate to be wrong, but I'd sooner vote for some other people than him.

Here's an example from Day 1. Very non-commital.

Enrique wrote:
DFaraday wrote:So much to look over. I'm always wary of going after MP so early just because he is often lynched over nothing (although he was justly caught last time). I don't know Enrique or Made at all, so tomorrow I'll go over their stuff and see what jumps out.
You.
Fuck.
You've known me for years, asshole

And then there is this post that strikes me as odd. I don't remember who said it before, but why would DFaraday say such a thing if they actually know each other. Could it have been pre-meditated? DFaraday says Ni.

Enrique wrote:Metalmarsh I did not argue for the civvieness of Made, as if I needed to say this again, I've never had a clue as to what his role was. All I knew is that the original argument was far from a VERY solid point. Honestly, I'm not even gonna get into all this WIFOM. May even end up voting for Made, lol, we'll see how things develop.

Again he clarified that he did not think that Made is a civ, which makes it even more peculiar that he would argue against llama's case so vigorously. Maybe I'll just ask the question to see if I get an actual answer.

Enrique, what are your thoughts on Made? Do you think he is good or bad? Should we lynch him?

juliets wrote:So LC I noticed you voted for me but never did answer my question.

What was your question.

I'd be willing to vote for Enrique if it were to come down to it.

Never mind SVS, I found what you were talking about, and just completely forgot we talked about it.

S~V~S wrote:OK, thanks for explaining. I had no intention of voting for you (if I could which I don;t think I could) now, really. It's just a "keep it in mind" thing, like MMs Devils Advocate thing, which I don't seem to recall seeing him do in other games, but it could be that he never hit my radar in the past when he acted that way.

Let me refresh your memory then.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... ate#p68207

But I was mafia in that game, so take it how you will. Which of my post(s) in this game are you pointing out? And what do you mean 'hit my radar'? I don't recall you mentioning me in this game, ever, in terms of a ping.

Linki: You're distracting, Made.

Made wrote:
S~V~S wrote: Made, do you still distrust Enrique? Or did you back off of that?
In light of recent events, Enrique has my strongest civvie read, second only to you.

Honestly I think he's getting shit so he'll conform with the Made baddy theory

That sounds like a baddie move to me, to conform like that. Or do you know Enrique well enough to predict his actions?

Enrique wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Made wrote: Yeah, the only people who haven't voted yet are dana, lizzy, and squid.
At this rate Lizzy probably won't vote but I would expect the other two to.
Why are you expecting Blooper to vote? She hasn't been around much, either. Has she been more active behind the scenes?
How should I know? I just thought I'd seen her around more than she apparently has been and figured she was more likely to vote than Lizzy who hasn't been around since day zero.
Randomly reminded of this. I'm not crazy for thinking this is fishy, right?

I don't see much here. Lizzy never checked in, but ninja blooper has posted occasional, and even participated in the Night 0 event.

Still catching up, and I have some things to say about your other post Enrique, coming soon.

Linki: @Made if you ever want to quote a specific post, click the red title at the top of the post (Eg. Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail), and the link for that post will appear in the address bar.

Made wrote:After thinking it over further, I think it might be in our best intrest to ignore llama's mutenessness.
Think about it like this. Anyway you cut it, the best person to mute would be Llama. For example, let's say there's a team of Dana, Bea, canuck, squid, a person, space daisy, and anyone else i haven't stated strong opinions for this game. They're aware of the amount of how much flack i've gotten, but they're also aware of how little i've accused them this game. So, even if they don't use this to get me lynched, they'd use it to get anyone i've accused lynched. it a win win for way too many people; boogs, bullz (as he would of been silenced before i quoted him). I don't like these odds.

I agree that llama is not a bad option for silencing, but why do you have to involve yourself in the reasoning? Tbh, I think you would be prime target for silencing.

S~V~S wrote:Linki, yeah, Alisha in the Misfits had a role like that, i believe.

I see now. I've never seen that role before.

Made wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:llama hasn't posted today after almost 48 hours. I'm going to go out on a very short limb and guess that he's been silenced.

Now that makes me wonder who'd have done it.
Would it be logical to think the reason he was silenced was to make it seem as if someone who is civvie is guilty?

I mean you're not gonna mute someone because they're on to you. I mean, come day 3 llama would come forward and just continue talking.

As an alternative theory what if llama has a role that allows him to visit people and he visited someone who silences you for the day.

I actually don't think you did it, for that exact reason. Why do you assume that? Anyway, I'm trying to think of who else would, that is where I am becoming confused.

And to your thought that he visited someone and was silenced, that not only implies that he has a proactive role, but that there is another role that silences visitors. I've never seen such a role exist before, so I don't believe it is a role used in this game.

llama hasn't posted today after almost 48 hours. I'm going to go out on a very short limb and guess that he's been silenced.

Now that makes me wonder who'd have done it.

Mister Rearranger wrote:I made Made's shortlist! If I had known that all it took to garner your suspicion was reference Enrique and you, I would have done so waaaay earlier in the thread.

So, is Epi suspicious to you too then?

I dunno how you did that. I already made an argument about those two yesterday, and Made merely acknowledged it.

I think Made has mentioned Epi twice now for suspicion, but Epi hasn't been around to respond. I think he's camping until tomorrow.

Linki: Also, welcome Keterman. I don't know why Made doesn't seem to like you though.

Oops, forgot to add this.

Canucklehead wrote:Hey, all.
Just catching up and posting thoughts as I go.

1) I see Made has become the centre of Attention again. I am having a harder and harder time maintaining my earlier belief that he's just a whackadoodle civ. The main reason for this is because if I was on a baddie team with him, I'd be rejoicing because he's so successful at diverting the thread and keeping everyone's eyes just on him that it would allow his team a lot of freedom (and an easy distancing vote, if it came to that). Of course, the diversionary benefits still apply even if Made is a civ, so I'm back to square one. Basically, Made, if you are a civ, it might not be a bad idea to turn down the crazy and turn up the listening. There are an unknown number of baddies to find, and if you are a civ, you are currently distracting a lot of people from doing so.

Not that I disagree with your view on Made, in fact, I think it is quite apt. But you do have every right to ignore it and discuss/look elsewhere.

Made wrote:Also, MM was forced voted/voted hella early?

1) I was making sure we can still switch votes.

2) There was a chance I would not be around most of today, so I went ahead and voted last night.

3) I voted you yesterday, and I was planning on voting you today as well. If I do change my vote, it would be to Enrique.

nijuukyugou wrote:Also, I'm not currently getting the baddie vibe from Made, although llama so graciously gave us his insight, which may be used as evidence if more comes to light. I say I'm not getting the baddie vibe because I see nothing unusual in his behavior so far (compared to his "normal" gameplay, that is :P Made is beautifully unorthodox).

SVS (and others) let me also quote this line from Day 1 from ninja blooper f about Made in regards to his gameplay. Let's skip the idea that he is a noob, because while his actions escape some of our comprehension, he most definitely does not play like a beginner per say.

S~V~S wrote:
Made wrote:
Long Con wrote:Caught up here at Port Perry fair. I didn't click on that pastebin thing, but I don't understand what Made was up to with that "recreate the situation" a stuff. Was the point to make a game part that was offsite as the Chatzy was offsite? And then to argue with Enrique over the contents, which would then be made unavailable, I guess?
Also, some how missed this. My goal with the Enrique pastebin was to get people talking about enrique, and gauge reactions.
My reasoning for using pastebin was because I could post time stamped text text outside the thread so i could late verify that my opinions of Enrique starting a certain time were not how i actually felt.
Please don't do that anymore. We try as much as possible to rely on what is in thread. Basing in game decisions on non thread stuff is frowned upon.

Linki, read all of his posts, or any of them. Read his sig. he suspects me, and I am perplexed as to why.

I have to agree with SVS here. Posting things outside the thread that can be manipulated so that not everyone may be able to see is essentially against the rules. I'm not of the mindset that you would do such a thing, but I don't think that should allow the excuse. There is a perfectly good reason we are not allowed to edit posts, and this is not much different. So for future purposes, I would ask that don't do it again, but just explain yourself in the game thread at the point you want to reveal your thought process.

Signatures are also kind of iffy. I personally don't like the idea of putting game-related content in sigs either for reasons already listed.

Dom wrote:ATTENTION PLAYERS:

I am going to be packing and traveling and moving into my room at school until Monday. I will be a little less available than usual. Any PMs sent to me ARE important and I will get to them as soon as humanly possible. I just wanted to ensure I am transparent with everyone, but so far, I guess no one's been unhappy because I've received no PMs-- and that makes me mildly happy.

Are you our very own HR department?

bea wrote:MM - the way I read Erique Suave's statements was thus: "I thought the case on Made was total BS. My defense of Made wasn't due to firmly believing his affiliation to being civ so much as it was my firm belief that the case was not a good case at all and could have potentially been a baddie looking for an easy reason to lynch anyone not on their team."

That's a lot of work for a Day 1 don't you think? I especially think so, because I still firmly believe the case against Made is very solid.

Enrique wrote:
Also @ Enrique, you say you don't have a clue to what Made alignment is. I agree, no one does but he. You also don't want to acknowledge him being civvie, and you are using this excuse. So why argue to not lynch him if you don't think he is civvie? This doesn't sit well with me.
I'm not arguing not to lynch him?? I've made posts on this. I hate repeating myself. I thought llama's case was weak so I argued against it. I had no reason to think he was not-civvie. Can you acknowledge my actual stance now?

No, that's the point. Yesterday you argued against llama regarding Made. Today, you've responded to Made's posts, but with no stance and a lot of sarcasm. You've left it wide open to interpretation, and potentially change.

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