The Syndicate

Anyway, Urist is suddenly at the top of my "I want them to roleclaim asap" list.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:27 pm FTR, how long were people holding off on yeeting ChopChop because they thought he might be the only BoS member and ergo locktown?

I figured his role would eventually resolve itself, and it finally has.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:26 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:22 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:18 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:12 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:04 pm @Seanzie

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:11 pm Nah i saved epi last night

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:02 am ideal play might actually be to execute alison here. we're at odd numbers so if she has a shot left and decides to shoot a Redding player we lose an execution.
if we think alison might have a shot still, we should execute her now.

Sure, I was kind of thinking something similar, but why is it clear Urist isn't scum here? If scum gets blocked, it would make sense for one of them to claim a protection to get some benefit out of the blocked shot. I don't understand why you are going out of your way to stop me from talking to them directly.
Who is blocking fatal actions here?
Not sure, but there are many roles that theoretically could have blocked or protected and idk if all of them would want to out themselves when they don't have to. There are universes where you are town, protected Epi, and weren't the reason why there was no NK, so them outing wouldn't be a "gotcha" out, which means they might stay quiet.

Have you poisoned anyone? If so, who? If not, why not?
Not going to claim any more of my role without my lawyer present a massclaim.
But you protected Nook and Epi, right?

Oh that's right, he can't be the role I thought he was then.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:12 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:04 pm @Seanzie

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:11 pm Nah i saved epi last night

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:02 am ideal play might actually be to execute alison here. we're at odd numbers so if she has a shot left and decides to shoot a Redding player we lose an execution.
if we think alison might have a shot still, we should execute her now.

Sure, I was kind of thinking something similar, but why is it clear Urist isn't scum here? If scum gets blocked, it would make sense for one of them to claim a protection to get some benefit out of the blocked shot. I don't understand why you are going out of your way to stop me from talking to them directly.

I'm not trying to stop you from talking to him directly, nor am I stopping him from responding.

If you know of any counter-evidence to his claim, I'm open to hearing it.

@Seanzie

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:11 pm Nah i saved epi last night

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:02 am ideal play might actually be to execute alison here. we're at odd numbers so if she has a shot left and decides to shoot a Redding player we lose an execution.
if we think alison might have a shot still, we should execute her now.

I feel like I should save him the effort though since he just subbed in and is probably town.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:26 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:25 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:24 pm You are NCR Urist?

I think he was joking.
I think you should let him speak for himself.

I think given his mindset in the thread and a few claims going around including his own, he can't possibly be NCR.

But yeah, I'm not spelling it out unless he wants to.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:24 pm You are NCR Urist?

I think he was joking.

It's limited role cop, so it doesn't mean much unless it doesn't match the person's claim.

I have used one role cop already, but I'm interested in hearing claims before I announce who it was.

Aside from Enclave of course.

I'm pretty sure I've achieved my wincon at this point. There'd have to be 6 Wastelanders and/or Arroyo alive for that not to be the case, and I think that'd be physically impossible given the amount of claims about.

Great, Marmot it is.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:00 pm did mac get his kill eaten three times?

Bread Mafia and Mysterious Universe were two other games that saw a mafia factional kill get stopped on 3 different occasions.

I have a role cop, who should I use it on?

Everyone claim Hubo and sheep me for the win.

But also, I am Hubo, so

I don't think Grogu is Hubo, Urist, if that makes you feel better.

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:26 pm i choose to believe chopchop
about alison not being the slaver, not about the wolf-claim

Actually, Grogu could also be this role: Dangerous Dan McGrew.

Chop has already admitted he's wolf, so yeah

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:21 pm I figure between martin and chop someone probably figured out I'm the slaver today. Really you should have realized it after what happened with falc but I guess I'm just a lucky 3P!

I figured there would be less distraction if we just pretended you were town.

What is Grogu's role? Orville Wright? AHS-9?

He implicated falcon on Day 2, and also claimed green on Day 1, and these are the only two roles I can find that could do both of these things.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:59 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:55 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:53 am Can someone walk me through the case why Urist is town? Is it just because of their claim earlier today about protecting Epi, or is there more to the story?
When Omega was caught, she and Urist kinda got a heated convo iirc, and it didn't look w/w at all.
Okay, I will look at that convo when I have time later.

Well, it was kinda one-sided now that I look at it, but Urist handled it in a manner that feels a little abrasive and not teamy.

Convo starts here.

I also think I know Urist's role. (I figured one out!!!)

Grogu is the one I'm trying to figure out rn if we believe his claim.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:53 am Can someone walk me through the case why Urist is town? Is it just because of their claim earlier today about protecting Epi, or is there more to the story?

When Omega was caught, she and Urist kinda got a heated convo iirc, and it didn't look w/w at all.

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:33 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:30 am
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:02 am ideal play might actually be to execute alison here. we're at odd numbers so if she has a shot left and decides to shoot a Redding player we lose an execution.
if we think alison might have a shot still, we should execute her now.

I disagree. We also lose a yeet if we yeet Alison here.
i think you're overestimating alison's benevolence if you think she's going to townside lmao
but whatever i'm fine with axing choppity as well.

I get where you're coming from, but we've only chopped one Enclave so far.

I think we should hold off on Alison for now.

"Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?

The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot."

I think we should also figure out whether or not ChopChop can send a message, and thus figure out if Spacedaisy is definitely a teammate who was in on the gambit or not.

Also, remember last time ChopChop was basically an outed wolf and we said "He isn't dangerous, we can just yeet him tomorrow"?

I'll refer you to my signature in how that can pan out.

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:02 am ideal play might actually be to execute alison here. we're at odd numbers so if she has a shot left and decides to shoot a Redding player we lose an execution.
if we think alison might have a shot still, we should execute her now.

I disagree. We also lose a yeet if we yeet Alison here.

It was very expected. Epi told us Day 4 he'd target Alison Night 4, so Chop's been planning this since then.

But if we really believe it's close to LYLO, a massclaim might actually be in order.

Considering ChopChop is an outed wolf at this point, I don't think we believe his take on when LYLO is.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:45 am @mods most active topic only works for people with less than 5000 posts. fix please

I post too much, should create a new account.

Epi was not roleblocked.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:12 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:59 pm Actually, the incentive that Chop has to lie as mafia is that confirming Alison, even as Slaver, makes her completely unyeetable.

Epi definitely visited Alison, I can confirm.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:16 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:45 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:43 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:36 pm just going to [VOTE: kylemii] aubergine until i see a claim
So let me get this straight.

You save Epignosis from a night-kill. Yesterday Epignosis was stating to not kill Kyle.

Now you're voting kyle for a claim.

Do you think you actually saved him or not and Enclave just hit a person with a vest?
kyle was saved from being executed yesterday because he crumbed the masonizer. if nobody claims to be masonized then i think it's fair for him to die today yeah
ftr the Masonizer is BoS and if he’s that I won’t be happy

heh

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:14 pm If Sloonei and Epi were both Enclave NKs, Chop Chop maybe said he targeted them because he carried the factional kill, so in case he was tracked, he is getting ahead of it with a viable explanation.

That's a really good take.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:59 pm Actually, the incentive that Chop has to lie as mafia is that confirming Alison, even as Slaver, makes her completely unyeetable.

How is Urist saving Epi related?

Remember on Day 1 when I wanted to yeet ChopChop and you told me not to Martin? :P

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:01 pm Sorry, I am missing part of the story. Has Chop Chop claimed something? And if so, what have they claimed their role has done thus far?

ChopChop claimed Luke, after admitting on Day 2 that he sent a message to Spacedaisy (after Daisy announced it in the thread)

You and your plans... I'm just winging it here.

Actually, the incentive that Chop has to lie as mafia is that confirming Alison, even as Slaver, makes her completely unyeetable.

Alison has certainly played this game as I would expect from her as 3P

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