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I just realized what you were saying here. For some reason I read this as my rank being changed to "Marmot in Solidarity", which made no sense to me.S~V~S wrote:If you flip civ, MM, I will change my rank to marmot in solidarity with you
A$k LC, there are wor$e cur$e$ to be cur$ed with.Turnip Head wrote:It is interesting that it wasn't a curse that prevented him from sharing his thoughts, like most curses do, but in the end what it really did was make it more difficult for others to talk to Epi/ about him... but of all the curses a player could fake, the "no vowels" one might be the most obnoxious fake curse you could come up with for yourself. It must be a bitch to type like that for 48 hours. Especially if you play mafia from a phone that has autocorrect, I mean holy shit are you kidding... I don't know why anyone would ever willingly undertake such a curse. I hope that never should such a curse ever befall me. I'd rather be silenced again tbh.Long Con wrote:And I say "supposedly" because that curse gave Golden one vote for every vowel he used. You used AT LEAST 5 vowels that I was aware of, and I didn't even have to look that hard. 5 would have tied you up with Vomps and Zombs, and one more would have put you over the edge. And yet you didn't get lynched. Interesting. Why did you fake being cursed?
Seriously. This makes a poor marmot who really wanted to play feel sad.thellama73 wrote:No more quitting allowed.Golden wrote:Feel free to look at me... I have to sub out anyway after tomorrow's lynch, at least lynching me might give the town some info.
"I'd rather trust a country man than a town man."Epignosis wrote:"I'd rather trust a man who doesn't shout what he's found."
Black Rock wrote:MM was proud to have not killed me in DN.rabbit8 wrote:Didn't Epi actually say he thought is was finny BR was killed N1? How is that ignoring what happened? I must have missed something along the way.
No, go away, I want it.blindfaeth wrote:
If I don't get a rezz than our dear host and I will be having words.Black Rock wrote:If you get a rez than me and our dear host will be having words.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Rezz please.
I got the joke. I thought it was funny.A Person wrote:I'm Matt, and I have voted in all but one poll so I think I have been playing most game.rabbit8 wrote:A Person wrote:Michagain
Who are you? Have you been playing all game?It was a joke referencing the fact that I had voted Michigan the first time. Michigan + again. Funny right.Golden wrote:And why can't you spell Michigan?
S~V~S wrote:MM, if I ever say I can read you, fishslap me, K?
I am now a Marmot. RIP MM.
I sucked as a civ in Film, and I suck still
Fair enough. You weren't too shabby in Film Director though.One of these days I'll make it past Day 2.Golden wrote:I hope I get to play with you for longer sometime soon.
Interesting, and if you look a little before that post, you'll see a similar post from Dom that occurred here.Long Con wrote:Here is the post I'm talking about.Metalmarsh89 wrote:It was? I don't rememer yours, but I do remember Dom picking TH apart for some similar ideas. Maybe he latched onto your case then.Long Con wrote:Wait a sec, I just reread this and realized the situation you were talking about. It was me that asked TH to do a case on himself, not Dom.Long Con wrote:Noteworthy. LEt's remember this in the future in case it becomes relevant, since MM won't be around to remind us.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Actually, this reminds me of when TH replaced in for Roxy in Film Directors. Dom was suspicious of Roxy, so he essentially asked TH to reread Roxy and make a case on her (himself).Bullzeye wrote:Why would he have an explanation?Dom wrote:Bass-- do you have any idea why MP made contradictory statements and didn't answer my questions? Any explanation would be nice.
Btw, Dom was bad in that game.
Long Con in Film Director's Mafia wrote:TH, we have not done well this game. We've only lynched one baddie, and it's Day 9. How many are left, like 8 or 9 players? Surely the baddies have accidentally killed each other at some point, but it's really hard to know. A lot of the prevailing suspicions have ended up wrong, except for Metalmarsh. Canuck defended Metalmarsh quite a bit, so take that however you like. We need to know what the baddies have been doing to be at this point in the game in such a good position.
Metalmarsh was Uwe Boll, who locks the thread. He did do a couple of times, including during his own lynch when he was up 5 votes to 3 over DF.
Roxy was not above suspicion, so neither are you... she was a big suspect, actually.
TH, why don't you play devil's advocate for us, and go through Roxy's posts to make a case that she was a baddie?I think it's the best way for you to join the game. Make a good case, and then, if you can, make a better case for someone else. Maybe me, if you like.
Noteworthy I guess. Drawing comparisons I realize isn't always reliable, but taken with a grain of salt, they can be useful.Dom in Film Director's Mafia wrote:why do you think bass thinks you're bad?Turnip Head wrote:Okay so where does that leave us :P
Hey juliets, what are these points you speak of?juliets wrote:No, No, NO I was not looking for a bandwagon but I was looking for a lot of people to say they were going to vote MM because I didn't want to be part of a small number in case he was the millionaire. The millionaire gets points for every vote he gets that doesn't lynch him. When I got to the thread this morning I saw that people were voting MM instead of just indicating they would vote him so I knew it was safe to join in. Even Canuck said she didn't suspect me for voting with the masses. Have you been reading the thread?Zombarella wrote:Oh - you mean that Juliets is looking for a bandwagon rather than making a case. Good point. I would consider voting for her. But for now, I'm just going to hold my vote.Zombarella wrote:I saw it before and I'm trying to figure out what you mean.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Zomba, just want to point this post out to you while you're here.Metalmarsh89 wrote:This post. You earlier said you think I'm not bad, but now are waffling based on things that happened before you said you think I'm not bad. That is why I don't understand. And you are accusing juliets of "going with the masses", even though she was one of the few to vote me Day 1, but whatever.Canucklehead wrote:I'm less convinced of MM's civness than I was earlier today. His own admission of "giving up" last night and his not-so-awesome case against TH (merely intimating that someone might have btsc with someone else is not enough in this particular set-up, and I thought the attempts to construe that possible BTSC as necessarily baddie based on "Day 1 stuff" was not particularly convincing) have me questioning my earlier judgement of MM....but honestly, it's still not enough that I'm ready to vote for him.
Of course, at this point it doesn't really matter, since he seems to be as good as lynches anyway. I wish some more viable candidates would have come up so that I wouldn't feel as though I'm wasting my vote regardless of what I do.
Also, the enlarged part of that post reminds me an awful lot of a certain instance in Death Note. I'm sure Zomba knows what I'm talking about.
It doesn't really matter much to me; I'll be dead here soon anyway.Canucklehead wrote:Is this directed at me?rabbit8 wrote:At least tell us who you planned to vote for. Before the post goes up.
I don't know who I was going to vote for....which is why I hadn't voted yet. I guess I may have ended up going with juliets? Or maybe a warning vote for a low poster? That's something I often do when I'm at a loss. I really dunno who it would have been, probably someone silly based on a last minute panic.
It wouldn't have been MM, though, just to piss him off.
It was? I don't rememer yours, but I do remember Dom picking TH apart for some similar ideas. Maybe he latched onto your case then.Long Con wrote:Wait a sec, I just reread this and realized the situation you were talking about. It was me that asked TH to do a case on himself, not Dom.Long Con wrote:Noteworthy. LEt's remember this in the future in case it becomes relevant, since MM won't be around to remind us.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Actually, this reminds me of when TH replaced in for Roxy in Film Directors. Dom was suspicious of Roxy, so he essentially asked TH to reread Roxy and make a case on her (himself).Bullzeye wrote:Why would he have an explanation?Dom wrote:Bass-- do you have any idea why MP made contradictory statements and didn't answer my questions? Any explanation would be nice.
Btw, Dom was bad in that game.
Actually, this reminds me of when TH replaced in for Roxy in Film Directors. Dom was suspicious of Roxy, so he essentially asked TH to reread Roxy and make a case on her (himself).Bullzeye wrote:Why would he have an explanation?Dom wrote:Bass-- do you have any idea why MP made contradictory statements and didn't answer my questions? Any explanation would be nice.
I was referring to this.Zombarella wrote:I saw it before and I'm trying to figure out what you mean.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Zomba, just want to point this post out to you while you're here.Metalmarsh89 wrote:This post. You earlier said you think I'm not bad, but now are waffling based on things that happened before you said you think I'm not bad. That is why I don't understand. And you are accusing juliets of "going with the masses", even though she was one of the few to vote me Day 1, but whatever.Canucklehead wrote:I'm less convinced of MM's civness than I was earlier today. His own admission of "giving up" last night and his not-so-awesome case against TH (merely intimating that someone might have btsc with someone else is not enough in this particular set-up, and I thought the attempts to construe that possible BTSC as necessarily baddie based on "Day 1 stuff" was not particularly convincing) have me questioning my earlier judgement of MM....but honestly, it's still not enough that I'm ready to vote for him.
Of course, at this point it doesn't really matter, since he seems to be as good as lynches anyway. I wish some more viable candidates would have come up so that I wouldn't feel as though I'm wasting my vote regardless of what I do.
Also, the enlarged part of that post reminds me an awful lot of a certain instance in Death Note. I'm sure Zomba knows what I'm talking about.
Zomba, just want to point this post out to you while you're here.Metalmarsh89 wrote:This post. You earlier said you think I'm not bad, but now are waffling based on things that happened before you said you think I'm not bad. That is why I don't understand. And you are accusing juliets of "going with the masses", even though she was one of the few to vote me Day 1, but whatever.Canucklehead wrote:I'm less convinced of MM's civness than I was earlier today. His own admission of "giving up" last night and his not-so-awesome case against TH (merely intimating that someone might have btsc with someone else is not enough in this particular set-up, and I thought the attempts to construe that possible BTSC as necessarily baddie based on "Day 1 stuff" was not particularly convincing) have me questioning my earlier judgement of MM....but honestly, it's still not enough that I'm ready to vote for him.
Of course, at this point it doesn't really matter, since he seems to be as good as lynches anyway. I wish some more viable candidates would have come up so that I wouldn't feel as though I'm wasting my vote regardless of what I do.
Also, the enlarged part of that post reminds me an awful lot of a certain instance in Death Note. I'm sure Zomba knows what I'm talking about.
Epignosis wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:Do you have some way to stop the lynch?Epignosis wrote:It occurred to me that if MM is the Millionaire, and the lynch fails to go through, that's bad news. A lynch not going through explains "giving up," self-voting (again), and then deciding to come back swinging all too well.Yes.
I should have known.Just vote for me. No one else is going to be lynched, and it would be better to keep the votes away from the real millionaire.Canucklehead wrote:What? I'm not waffling. I didn't want to vote for you before. I do not want to vote for you now.Metalmarsh89 wrote:This post. You earlier said you think I'm not bad, but now are waffling based on things that happened before you said you think I'm not bad. That is why I don't understand. And you are accusing juliets of "going with the masses", even though she was one of the few to vote me Day 1, but whatever.Canucklehead wrote:I'm less convinced of MM's civness than I was earlier today. His own admission of "giving up" last night and his not-so-awesome case against TH (merely intimating that someone might have btsc with someone else is not enough in this particular set-up, and I thought the attempts to construe that possible BTSC as necessarily baddie based on "Day 1 stuff" was not particularly convincing) have me questioning my earlier judgement of MM....but honestly, it's still not enough that I'm ready to vote for him.
Of course, at this point it doesn't really matter, since he seems to be as good as lynches anyway. I wish some more viable candidates would have come up so that I wouldn't feel as though I'm wasting my vote regardless of what I do.
Also, the enlarged part of that post reminds me an awful lot of a certain instance in Death Note. I'm sure Zomba knows what I'm talking about.
The things which have nuanced (not reversed) my opinion about you happened very recently, and involved not o ly your original posts, but other people's reactions to them.
And I'm not accusing Juliets of going with the masses, I'm questioning her about the careful language of her posts.
But if you're interested in further antagonizing one of your only supporters, go right ahead and continue.I haven't voted yet.
I had legitimate reasons to do so in my last two games.juliets wrote:I don't think you are but if you turn out to be civ I will be sorry for my poor judgement. At the same time i join SVS in counseling you to give up on voting yourself at the beginning of games. It just causes you unnecessary grief because people are going to look at you for that behavior.Metalmarsh89 wrote:How will you react after I flip as a civilian?juliets wrote:Canuck, I don't think you've played with me enough to recognize that cautious is my style. I like to vote on facts and am much less comfortable voting on feelings or gut. Thus, I try to look at each situation all the way around to see how much factual data is available. I play devils advocate though I don't voice this in the thread. I may ask questions that seem odd but usually that is me trying to make sure I see the situation from all sides. I feel as sure as it's going to get on MM this round because he voted for himself again this round, even after he knew this was problematic in the first round. I was less sure, but still very suspicious, before he did that but once he did it was the cherry on top. Check my vote - it came after his self vote.
I'm also not a case builder though I do sometimes build cases but not this early in the game. For me, this early in the game, this is my normal behavior. I understand that these things ping you and all I can do is explain my play style as much as possible.
Do you have some way to stop the lynch?Epignosis wrote:It occurred to me that if MM is the Millionaire, and the lynch fails to go through, that's bad news. A lynch not going through explains "giving up," self-voting (again), and then deciding to come back swinging all too well.
How about a sig bet then?S~V~S wrote:If you flip civ, MM, I will change my rank to marmot in solidarity with you
This post. You earlier said you think I'm not bad, but now are waffling based on things that happened before you said you think I'm not bad. That is why I don't understand. And you are accusing juliets of "going with the masses", even though she was one of the few to vote me Day 1, but whatever.Canucklehead wrote:I'm less convinced of MM's civness than I was earlier today. His own admission of "giving up" last night and his not-so-awesome case against TH (merely intimating that someone might have btsc with someone else is not enough in this particular set-up, and I thought the attempts to construe that possible BTSC as necessarily baddie based on "Day 1 stuff" was not particularly convincing) have me questioning my earlier judgement of MM....but honestly, it's still not enough that I'm ready to vote for him.
Of course, at this point it doesn't really matter, since he seems to be as good as lynches anyway. I wish some more viable candidates would have come up so that I wouldn't feel as though I'm wasting my vote regardless of what I do.
How will you react after I flip as a civilian?juliets wrote:Canuck, I don't think you've played with me enough to recognize that cautious is my style. I like to vote on facts and am much less comfortable voting on feelings or gut. Thus, I try to look at each situation all the way around to see how much factual data is available. I play devils advocate though I don't voice this in the thread. I may ask questions that seem odd but usually that is me trying to make sure I see the situation from all sides. I feel as sure as it's going to get on MM this round because he voted for himself again this round, even after he knew this was problematic in the first round. I was less sure, but still very suspicious, before he did that but once he did it was the cherry on top. Check my vote - it came after his self vote.
I'm also not a case builder though I do sometimes build cases but not this early in the game. For me, this early in the game, this is my normal behavior. I understand that these things ping you and all I can do is explain my play style as much as possible.
Good luck with the new job bea! I look forward to your return so I can kill you again play some mafia with you again.bea wrote:thellama73 wrote:Effective immediately, Bass_the_Clever is replacing Movingpictures07, and the host is beginning to take it personally.
Isn't this what you did though Canucklehead? Or pretty close to it?Canucklehead wrote:Julie's, it just tea very cagey/Jeffry to me, especially in relation to an earlier post where someone asked you I on Day 2 you were still suspicious of MM. You replied with a very reserved yes, using language that suggested a great deal of uncertainty.juliets wrote:What did you see in my vote post?Canucklehead wrote:I think of all the MM votes, juliets' reads the least genuine to me. I'll look trhough her posts and see if what pinged me in her vote post holds up in her other posts...
Then, your vote post implies that you really wanted to vote MM all along, but weren't sure that there was enough support, and are relieved tht you dot have to fin someone else to vote for.
Both could be very legitimate sentiments, but I'm interpreting them as being very cautious and concerned with not standing out too much. Hedging, cautious, and blendy are all terms I would use to describe those posts (and many of your posts). Your posts seem very concerned with placating people (lots of agreeing, and backing off after questions are answered), and your transition from being unsure of your suspicion of MM to being emboldened by the mass voting on him caught my eye.
Again, it's not a huge suspicion, when I'm a civ I often find my opinions of people heavily influenced by crowd opinions, too....but it is also a good tactic for not rocking the boat as a baddie, and as such it is something that's pinged me.
Dramatic turn of eventsCanucklehead wrote:I'm less convinced of MM's civness than I was earlier today. His own admission of "giving up" last night and his not-so-awesome case against TH (merely intimating that someone might have btsc with someone else is not enough in this particular set-up, and I thought the attempts to construe that possible BTSC as necessarily baddie based on "Day 1 stuff" was not particularly convincing) have me questioning my earlier judgement of MM....but honestly, it's still not enough that I'm ready to vote for him.
Of course, at this point it doesn't really matter, since he seems to be as good as lynches anyway. I wish some more viable candidates would have come up so that I wouldn't feel as though I'm wasting my vote regardless of what I do.
How does one hold a baddie?Bullzeye wrote:At this point a vote for anyone other than MM is essentially pointless. I have already mentioned that he is in a category of people I think holds at least one baddie, so I shall *vote MM* and see what happens. How he flips may influence my opinion of quite a few players.
It's a part of the Smashfest that is going on right now. The bottom-most sub-forum on the main page.Canucklehead wrote:I read it.
What's a smash coin? Sounds smashy.
I don't think so, not after the Day 1 proceedings.rabbit8 wrote:Maybe you found some Celestials, MM.
fingersplints wrote:I just read it all. I don't agree with it though and I am not seeing the same thing from TH's posts that you are.
Fine, you've still got the wrong marmot.
So blindfaeth calls a couple people out specifically based on their reactions to the information he brought forward. This is worth noting since blindfaeth is a known civilian. Blindfaeth also voted for Epignosis on Day 1.Turnip Head wrote:I'm not worried about you being correct. I asked the "What do you guys see?" Question after BR said she saw something too. I don't get why you wouldn't just talk about it and dance around your suspicions. I'm interested I'm discussion. I had no idea that what you saw was related to me, but it's not like I'm worried, I know that my vote was an innocent mistake.blindfaeth wrote:Yes but my point is, the two people I think are suspicious PRIOR to my item are acting in a way I would expect them to if they were worried about me being correct, namely, that I know the identity of their teammate. Bullz and TH can certainly defend against this, don't you agree?
I'm not saying I'm incapable of making mistakes as a baddie, but the scenario that you're painting has me INTENTIONALLY making these mistakes, and that's something I would not do. As a baddie I know better than to draw attention to myself on Day 1. Anything out of the ordinary is usually enough to get lynched when there's nothing else to go on. The move you're saying I made is something I personally would never do.
This question just seems out of the blue. Why does TH care about Dom's item, but not about anyone else's item? This smells of distancing, and a calculated form of distancing at that. blindfaeth had just accused TH about worrying about the safety of the millionaire, so TH immediately changes the subject. If he is a baddie, then what better way then to call upon a teammate. TH never followed up on the questionTurnip Head wrote:Dom, can you talk a little bit about why you chose the Promissory Note item on Day 0?
Included in this question to Dom are some accusations against Mongoose. So at this point, it reads to me like Mongoose is TH's biggest suspect. However, Sophie later replaced Mongoose that day, so I guess it's fair that TH didn't actually vote there.Turnip Head wrote:Honestly Dom I got the same impression from your post that LC, rabbit, BF and Golden did, and now that you've clarified that that wasn't your intention, I actually have NO idea what you're getting at re: juliets. Asking her if she was addressing all civs by saying "us", what does that even mean, what is your point re: juliets? Your follow-up question to her makes no sense to me, but I guess I'll wait to hear juliets' response to it in any case. But it feels like you're backpedaling.
Speaking of waiting for responses, I'm still waiting on Mongoose to address my post directed towards her. Her three posts from this past day are as follows:
So it sounded like she had scanned the thread, because she commented how the day's cases looked like mountains of molehills fare.Mongoose wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:Dang it, I should have counted to 10, I feel bad for reacting emotionally now instead of rationally. :P But I'm in too deep now. VOTE ME. And stuff. BBL.
It's okay hoss, we've all been there.
Huge deadline at COB tomorrow so I am spending my afternoon break doing a Scan & Ran with you lot. Seems like typical "mountains of molehill" Day 1 shenanigans, but nothing is toooo concerning to me yet (and I sure as hell don't have anything more compelling to add other than I made a "It has proudly been 3 days since our last velociraptor accident" sign for my office door).
I'll be voting early (tomorrow)because I leave for St Pete Saturday morning for a business trip and will be gone through Tuesday.
Then she replied to a post that wasn't addressed to her:And then she made an off-topic comment directed to the host:Mongoose wrote:I'm frankly surprised I read the instructions and am not one of the ones who voted second for one of the items. That's a welcome change.fingersplints wrote:Idk BR. If it was anyone other than MP I might think you were on to something, but he is so detail oriented I'm not really shocked he would have read the rules. Even I noticed that you can't have two people vote the same option and I am pretty notorious for not reading things like that carefully.
worth considering though
so bf - the TH/Bullz things are seperate from the will thing? I'm trying to get what you are saying hereYet she didn't reply to my post addressed to her. For now I'll give her the benefit of the doubt that she just hadn't read that far into the thread, even though her first post made it sound like she had scanned the whole thread to that point. So that's strange, but I'll withhold from further judgment until she replies to my first post and to this subsequent post.Mongoose wrote:*spat out tea in laughter*thellama73 wrote:Hey everyone!
Since we have a little extra time today, let's have a fun game. The roles on the front page need pictures to go along with them. Please submit a picture of your role to me via PM by the end of Night 1. My favorite gets a prize. Please nothing too racist for the Celestials.
I like the qualifier of "too" racist, with the intimation being that "a little racist" is permissible.
Then anther suspecting question for Dom.Turnip Head wrote:Fair enough Dom, I suppose that makes sense.
Followed by another accepting answer by TH.Turnip Head wrote:But all her answer did was confirm that she was talking about the civs... which is what I thought you were suspicious of her for?Dom wrote:If it makes you feel any better-- I was satisfied with juliets answer.Turnip Head wrote:I don't think you questioning people is unusual (thanks for answering for me before I replied though :P ), but questioning juliets specifically, about that specific thing? I did think that was a little over the top. It felt like a normal juliets thing to say and I thought you would have agreed with me on that point.Dom wrote:TH-- I'm juggling suspicions? Please-- look at how many different people BF has thrown shade at for no reason. Do you suspect BF for the same reason then? I just don't understand why suspecting 2 people (MP and BF) makes me someone who is throwing things out for no reason. I questioned juliets. Do you find it unusual for me to question people? I doubt that.
I'd rather not talk about the MP situation given the last time we did the result that ensued. I don't think we need to rehash that? Like... what else was I supposed to post? MP had a total meltdown over me asking 2 questions and didn't answer the second one. I felt responsible for MP's meltdown. I don't want to explore it again?
Fair enough about MP.
It looks like TH is trying to set himself up for a vote for Dom, but he continues to back off and accept Dom's responses.Turnip Head wrote:Gotchya Dom. Okay.
Epignosis and TH immediately respond with a "Well that's interesting". But curiously, neither of them ever followed up on it, just left it at that. I believe that this was a set-up for themselves. If the lynch were to sway Zomba's direction, they are in perfect position to pile their votes on. But the lynch didn't sway that direction, so they were in a position to back right off of that suspicion. This is one of many examples of TH and Epignosis being on the same page, and I will address that in a bit.Turnip Head wrote:Indeed.Epignosis wrote:Now that's interesting, right there.Zomberella12 wrote:Well, I think BF ruined my role. Thanks, for that. Civvie or not, you blew it!blindfaeth wrote:Oh well, if people are interested in lynching me I suppose I'll share what I know. At least if I die, SVS won't be able to lie to you about whose will it is. It is Zomberellas will. The reason I did not come after her in the thread as many of you suggested is because she was literally absent for so long. Which I think is oddly convenient, but whatever. Final thoughts, I think dom is bad, he's only analytical like this when he has a team. I think epi and bills are bad. Think SVS is misguided. Good luck
Turnip Head wrote:What do you mean that it expires? Had you mentioned this before?blindfaeth wrote:And by the way, the fact they can expire makes me think zomb is bullshitting about her item being worthless. Why bother making a role that can make items expire if they don't do anything.
Bye Mongoose, and welcome Sophie!
Turnip Head wrote:I would still like to know what BF meant about the will "expiring" - that was a new wrinkle he didn't bring up until much much later unless I missed something.
And finally, we have TH's lynch vote post.Turnip Head wrote:Also worth noting that BF didn't even vote for Zomberella; he voted for Epi and is now campaigning for others to do so as well.
Turnip Head finally voted for Dom. For some reason, TH decided to include in his post that he is "okay" with blindfaeth being lynched, yet for some reason, TH voted for Dom. There's a couple peculiar events that happened after this that make this vote especially noteworthy. TH later accused LC of throwing away his vote (for want of a better term) when LC voted for me on Day 1. TH's reasoning for that accusation is that we should all be wary of placing odd spread out votes in case we place one on the millionaire. But TH still placed a vote on Dom even though he was okay with LC being lynched.Turnip Head wrote:BF I don't understand why you suddenly just give up because people aren't agreeing with you or playing the way you want them to. I understand that sometimes it's hard to work with people but that's like 83% of mafia, working blindly with your fellow civs to figure things out and catch the bad guys. You are giving up first chance you get instead of pushing through. Makes no sense to me.
I'm going to vote Dom because he's still my top suspicion and I don't think you're bad, but frankly I'm okay with you being lynched because it seems you don't want to play anymore, and people giving up because they're being suspected is frankly getting old.
This post is vague and ambiguous. I asked TH to expound on it, and he didn't give a good answer. But the ensuing few posts show his support of Epignosis. That first post was odd because it came merely a minute after Epignosis began questioning LC, which is one reason why I think that TH has BTSC with Epignosis. I know that idea doesn't make him bad, but the other events are what make me think otherwise.Turnip Head wrote:I like where this is going.
And here was TH's response. Based on the thread, it was not particularly obvious that Epignosis's hand was being forced.Epignosis wrote:Absolutely. Fuck that guy. He needs to go.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, would you recommend a lynch for Turnip Head today? Do you think Turnip Head is bad?
In fact, I've been watching him carefully. He's been agreeing with me like Basmati rice. He just says whatever he thinks I want to hear. I would love to see him probed on the Montel show. I would like to see his reaction to learning that he is, in fact, not the father, and then we should take him outside and beat hell out of him for being so evil. Yes, I think Turnip Head is bad.
But TH just accepted Epignosis's answer. How can someone accept an accusation so jokingly and on-the-fly without knowing the justification behind it? This is another reason I'm convinced that TH and Epignosis have BTSC, and that TH knew about this before responding. Why else would Epignosis have no real interest in lynching TH, and TH speak in thread knowing as such.Turnip Head wrote:I would agree to all of this, if I knew that it pleased you.Epignosis wrote:I would love to see him probed on the Montel show. I would like to see his reaction to learning that he is, in fact, not the father, and then we should take him outside and beat hell out of him for being so evil.
TH never did respond to this particular accusation, and considering how uqickly the back-and-forths were happening, it took him a while to say anything in general, as his next post came 25 minutes later with a complete change of subject.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Just the kind of response I would expect from someone who has BTSC with Epignosis, and knows that the answer to the recently asked question is being forced.Turnip Head wrote:I would agree to all of this, if I knew that it pleased you.Epignosis wrote:I would love to see him probed on the Montel show. I would like to see his reaction to learning that he is, in fact, not the father, and then we should take him outside and beat hell out of him for being so evil.
Turnip Head wrote:Maybe because that did not happen.MovingPictures07 wrote:So I'm trying to be super open-minded about S~V~S, knowing that I consistently read her wrong ALWAYS, but why did she say she wasn't going to vote for BF on Day 1 and then did anyway?
SVS said this on Wed, 6:45 pm:And then 30+ hours and 8 posts about her suspicions of BF later...S~V~S wrote:I am not voting for you now, BF, and am not sure that I even will. It's early, and it's Day One. We are talking about what has caught our eye, and this is what has caught mine.
I see nothing wrong here.S~V~S wrote:I have a busy day tomorrow, and will be in the middle of D & D when the poll ends. Not 100% sure I will be here tonight, so i am going to vote now, I don't see me changing my mind.
*Votes BF*
Lol, thanks BR. That was the conclusion I came to last night when no one was taking me seriously, or worse...Black Rock wrote:It ain't over till the lynch is up but a post like that is asking for the votes. If I am right and you are civvie then you shouldn't have done that. It makes you look bad and makes me feel stupid for trusting you.Metalmarsh89 wrote:If you think I'm a baddie you should go along with it and vote for me.rabbit8 wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:Never mind MP. I'm clearly the baddiest of them all.
I'm going ahead and voting for me. Perhaps I can stop wasting my effort on this game.
Are you fucking kidding me? How does this help if you're a civvie?
If you think not, well do what you want, but talking about it right now isn't going to help.
Linki @BR: I decided to give up last night, but changed my mind today. I was sucked back in.
If you think I'm a baddie you should go along with it and vote for me.rabbit8 wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:Never mind MP. I'm clearly the baddiest of them all.
I'm going ahead and voting for me. Perhaps I can stop wasting my effort on this game.
Are you fucking kidding me? How does this help if you're a civvie?
Lol, thanks vomps.Vompatti wrote:I believe you. *votes TH*Metalmarsh89 wrote:But here's the problem here, I am not bad.juliets wrote:I didn't expect to find all these votes for Metalmarsh this morning. I was worried I would have to find someone else to vote for even though I was most suspicious of him, but I think enough people have voted for MM that it's safe for me to vote him. I think he's bad this game.
Anyway, I've changed my mind. I've decided that I will still attempt to prove to the rest of you that TH is bad. I hope at least one person will read it.
You will see soon enough that it is wrong.S~V~S wrote:Sophie wrote:I meant a baddie power with every vote casted against them
Almost, but not quite. He gains power from taking votes that don't kill him. He is suspected for trying to draw votes and the pattern of the votes he took dayone.
TH made a pretty good case for it.
No U? Who have I No U'd?S~V~S wrote:And the Lol was because of the No U inherent in your suspect list. Again, sorry.
Just so we're clear, have I really been that off-topic this game? I'm pretty sure that is far from the truth. Aggressive, yes. Persistant, yes. Off-topic, Day 1 maybe, but nary an OT post since then.S~V~S wrote:That was not what I meant. That was just saying you don't say much on topic when you are bad, mainly jokes. I didn't want people to vote for you if you were the Millionaire so as not to make you more powerful.
I guess I worded that poorly since you are not the only person to read it that way. I apologize for coming across as rude. It was not my intention, but it is the perception that counts.
