The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote:I was ignoring the Cain imposed restrictions; I thought he was bad becasue of the way he was acting

So now Cain is in time-out.

ObscureAllure wrote:Also - I find it hilarious that before y'all new he was a cylon y'all were SO SURE he was bad. Now that you now he's a cylon you're like.... "well maybe he's good?" What about all of the evidence that made you think he was bad before? That suddenly is nullified because he said he's good? Every cylon that gets caught in the amnesty crap is going to say they are good because they are trying to survive. Why is it that once he says that, y'all all suddenly forget everything you found suspicious before?

It is an important distinction now OA. Before LC was lynched, then DrWilgy needed to die if he was a Cylon. Now that Cain is dead and some order has been restored, we don't need necessarily need DrWilgy dead just because he's a Cylon. We do have to make another judgment call.

For what it's worth, I voted him because he had not claimed and because I trust the players who had voted him before I did. Also, there are other players I'd rather lynch tomorrow than DrWilgy.

S~V~S wrote:@Rico, I did not go through with it becasue LC has this knack for making me feel like an idiot. **I DO NOT THINK HE DOES IT INTENTIONALLY**, it is definitely me, not him, but this is how I react to him and always have, not sure why. Maybe because I do respect him tons as a player of the top tier, and in general, his opinion of me matters to me. SO I am very very susceptible to scorn/sarco/etc. from him. When I feel stupid I back off. It is a problem I also have IRL. It is the same reason I have issues with a few other people, but in any case, it is why I backed down from him here.

And @Dex, OK, as someone who flies off of my gut, I can respect that. But he really was not sounding town before the lynch, imo.

I think LC tends speaks in a calculated manner, which is why I always think he is evil.

DrumBeats wrote:Great lynch guys, sorry I missed the update, I was making the endgame update of a game I'm hosting and I forgot all about this. I should be more active now that I don't have that to deal with.

Thanks for the game DrumBeats! I would have enjoyed the radios more if I had survived long enough to use them personally. :P

Excellent result.

I don't feel any better about sig either.

Ok, I have to run!

See y'all later.

And this might be paranoia, but Long Con disappeared when Ricochet called him out for that post. This is the second time Long Con has done this sort of thing.

The first time happened when I proposed the Anti-Amnesty plan. Long Con was around and posting, but disappeared for a bit right when I suggested it.

I understand that people have things they need to attend to etc, but I find it noteworthy, and suspicious if the reason he's not posting is because he is an evil Cylon without a good response.

Long Con has the idea that Wilgy is a Cylon, so I believe my vote would be fine on either wagon.

I hope others coming to vote later will look at this too. Good catch Ricoyay.

EBWOP: because Marmotfail.

Ricochet wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
G-Man wrote:6) Metalmarsh89- After he seemingly broke the tie (actually creating a tie) by voting Nero Day 3, he seemed to be marked for death. All of that vitriol and suspicion seems to have disappeared as the thread moved on to LoRab and other distractions. He proposed everyone make the Toaster claim, which was a good idea to neutralize the amnesty law. He's still low level suspicious for breezing his way through Day 1 and most of Day 2. Only being helpful and on-topic at night for the first few days was strange. I know he's an odd duck but I feel the need to keep watching him.
Do you find any of my actions suspicious, or are you listing me because people aren't finding my actions suspicious?

Linki: I'm probably voting for you Long Con. But you can still give me an alternative.
Vote Wilgy as a claim-denier, put me in second place, and then I get the axe when he claims.... and you get a bonus Cylon as well!
lol, saggittary you postulatum admit election a Cylon?
hellooooooooooooooo?

:O

You calling this a slip by Long Con?

EBWOP: because Ricofail.

Ricochet wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
G-Man wrote:6) Metalmarsh89- After he seemingly broke the tie (actually creating a tie) by voting Nero Day 3, he seemed to be marked for death. All of that vitriol and suspicion seems to have disappeared as the thread moved on to LoRab and other distractions. He proposed everyone make the Toaster claim, which was a good idea to neutralize the amnesty law. He's still low level suspicious for breezing his way through Day 1 and most of Day 2. Only being helpful and on-topic at night for the first few days was strange. I know he's an odd duck but I feel the need to keep watching him.
Do you find any of my actions suspicious, or are you listing me because people aren't finding my actions suspicious?

Linki: I'm probably voting for you Long Con. But you can still give me an alternative.
Vote Wilgy as a claim-denier, put me in second place, and then I get the axe when he claims.... and you get a bonus Cylon as well!
lol, saggittary you postulatum admit election a Cylon?

:O

You calling this a slip by Long Con?
hellooooooooooooooo?

Ricochet wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
G-Man wrote:6) Metalmarsh89- After he seemingly broke the tie (actually creating a tie) by voting Nero Day 3, he seemed to be marked for death. All of that vitriol and suspicion seems to have disappeared as the thread moved on to LoRab and other distractions. He proposed everyone make the Toaster claim, which was a good idea to neutralize the amnesty law. He's still low level suspicious for breezing his way through Day 1 and most of Day 2. Only being helpful and on-topic at night for the first few days was strange. I know he's an odd duck but I feel the need to keep watching him.
Do you find any of my actions suspicious, or are you listing me because people aren't finding my actions suspicious?

Linki: I'm probably voting for you Long Con. But you can still give me an alternative.
Vote Wilgy as a claim-denier, put me in second place, and then I get the axe when he claims.... and you get a bonus Cylon as well!
lol, saggittary you postulatum admit election a Cylon?
:O

You calling this a slip by Long Con?
hellooooooooooooooo?

I've deliberated. I trust the voters currently on both the Wilgy and Long Con wagons. I'm going to vote Wilgy since between the two, he has not claimed Cylon.

Zebra is off the poll, and she's also voted for sig, so I'm going to hold those thoughts for another day.

Vote DrWilgy

G-Man wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
G-Man wrote:6) Metalmarsh89- After he seemingly broke the tie (actually creating a tie) by voting Nero Day 3, he seemed to be marked for death. All of that vitriol and suspicion seems to have disappeared as the thread moved on to LoRab and other distractions. He proposed everyone make the Toaster claim, which was a good idea to neutralize the amnesty law. He's still low level suspicious for breezing his way through Day 1 and most of Day 2. Only being helpful and on-topic at night for the first few days was strange. I know he's an odd duck but I feel the need to keep watching him.
Do you find any of my actions suspicious, or are you listing me because people aren't finding my actions suspicious?

Linki: I'm probably voting for you Long Con. But you can still give me an alternative.
As a matter of fact, I'm still weirded out by you being all silly by day and on-topic at night early on. Can you explain that?

Also, on page 55, why did you come up with that oddball theory about our sorties only having a probability of finding a rezz ship on each space of the sortie grid? That made no sense to me, because if true it would have made the whole sortie thing more complicated and possibly impossible to complete.

Have you given any more thought to Nutella using the word 'scum' to describe baddies for the first time? (page 69) Has that led you to any conclusions about specific possible teammates? Or are you just keeping that idea out there in the ether to come back to later?

Can you explain again why you voted Nero instead of LoRab Day 3? (page 89) Keeping LoRab as a firm leader would have been a full confirmation of her Toaster status. We were able to infer as much anyway but had she fought harder or more convincingly, there could have been doubt about her.

Can you explain why no one seems to be out for your head anymore?

Do you think it has something to do with the fact that you came up with the idea of everyone making the amnesty claim? That certainly got us off on a wild tangent.

Who are your top three suspects now?

I can explain it, yes. Hi, I'm Metalmarsh89.

I don't know. I don't recall the theory right now, and Page 55 by my view doesn't reveal it.

I have not given it much more thought. I've realized that it can incriminate a number of players, and even then, nutella may not have gotten the idea from a teammate, but from one of her enemies.

I've explained it several times already. To put it simply, I misunderstood the situation, and voted what I thought was best, when in hindsight it was not the best option.

The only explanation I can offer is the Marmot-Protection Act. You should ask people if you want specific reasons. The Anti-Amnesty plan could be part of it too.

My top 3 suspects are Long Con, a2thezebra, and sig, in that order.

Well, zebra's not on the poll anyway. There goes that thought...

Long Con, do you suspect zebra?

G-Man wrote:6) Metalmarsh89- After he seemingly broke the tie (actually creating a tie) by voting Nero Day 3, he seemed to be marked for death. All of that vitriol and suspicion seems to have disappeared as the thread moved on to LoRab and other distractions. He proposed everyone make the Toaster claim, which was a good idea to neutralize the amnesty law. He's still low level suspicious for breezing his way through Day 1 and most of Day 2. Only being helpful and on-topic at night for the first few days was strange. I know he's an odd duck but I feel the need to keep watching him.

Do you find any of my actions suspicious, or are you listing me because people aren't finding my actions suspicious?

Linki: I'm probably voting for you Long Con. But you can still give me an alternative.

I'm a bit behind, and probably won't catch up before the deadline.

Regardless, hello everyone!

Matt is confirmed derp-a-derp.

Tfw you bring up a point about another player, and your strongest scumread goes and does some legwork at looking into said player.

Any other thoughts on the G-Man/Glorfindel interactions?

The G-Man/Glorf insults and whatnot aside...

Lately, G-Man has been gunning after Glorf, hasn't had much to say about other players, and doesn't seem to mind whether others are interested in lynching Glorf alongside him.

I get the feeling his pursuit is not sincere. I'll see if I can gather some evidence when I'm not on my phone.

Hi guys! I've been busy the past day or two, but I should be around later today, though it just occurred to me that the day doesn't end until tomorrow.

For what it's worth, I would probably vote for Long Con if I had to vote right now.

Catch y'all on the flipside! Oh, and RIP juliets.

I wonder if sig has anything to say about that. I think he was the one worried about Hod Dog and Kate dying to begin with.

Epignosis wrote:I'm a dinosaur.

Somebody is dinning my bones.

Digging?

Glorfindel wrote:
Matt wrote:Updated list of Non-Claimers

a2thezebra
DrWilgy
Epignosis
Glorfindel
OA
Ricotech
Sokoth
Vompatti

How many players do we have in the game? 24, 25? Two-thirds of the town have agreed that claiming is in the town's best interest, so essentially, all of these players are anti-town as of now.

We need to put pressure on them. Do I think they're all "bad" ? No. Do I think Cavil and/or other bad cylons are hiding in this bunch? Absolutely.

I think we should start with OA, who can't claim cuz of "punishments" but will totes claim if we lynch LC despite "punishments".

ObscureAllure

Linki - Oh okay, nvm now she was "just kidding". Someone help me pressure her please.
So Say We All!

I'm sorry, my friend but you're posting the wrong list... The list that YOU should be posting (that would be infinitely more helpful to us) is the list of players that HAVE claimed in sequence of when they claimed (and preferably with the times they claimed so we can timeline them). Let me make this crystal clear, I'm in no way accusing you of anything but others (like well, umm Polo for instance) who seem obsessed with the first list you posted are I believe leading us down the garden path. What is happening here is what is referred to as selection bias and it's being perpetrated on a Town team that is largely far to accepting of it. Continually posting that list only focuses attention on those that for a variety of different reasons have not claimed.

As I said earlier, it seems only logical to me that the real Baddies have already jumped ship and claimed leaving them time to hide and help drive lynches on those who haven't/won't claim and so gain an advantage over us. I am highly suspicious of those who insist on driving this misguided agenda.

I echo this sentiment from Glorfindel.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Metalmarsh89's probably made more posts than I have.

Fact.

Thus, Jay is confirmed scum.

Zebra's probably posted more content than I have.

sig wrote:So I get all this shit for not claiming, then when I do it is a scummy opportunistic move...............

Again someone look through Zebra's posts she has posted almost no content, Polo keeps asking people who they'd like to lynch and why not so and so that is a basic scum move. I use that all the time as mafia.

Zebra's posted content, she just hasn't backed some of it up.

Long Con wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I don't need sixty hours to decide who to vote for, let's please lynch sig today for the sake of town. Also stop asking people to mass claim Cylon!
Who would you want to put in second place - how likely do you think it is that sig will Cylon-claim if he has the vote majority? Your vote is somewhat rushed, surely you can see the importance of working together and planning together so as to avoid the Amnesty Act deciding this lynch in a Nerolunar kind of way.

Speaking of which, I'll just note that if Metalmarsh had not voted for Nerolunar on Day 2, and had instead voted for Lorab, all the results would be exactly the same at this point. We just wouldn't have had to get upset with MM.

But that development wouldn't have been nearly as fun for everyone involved.

S~V~S wrote:I just enjoy being right

So say we all.

S~V~S, are you a member of mafia?

ObscureAllure wrote:So say we all -

what about a Wigly lynch?

This was basically the last thing he said. Should we pressure him now since it's been 24 hours since then, or give him a chance to do so?

Epignosis wrote:It's little business like this, and I think you are the kind of person that has to be caught on the minutiae. I believe you are less likely to make a massive blunder.

From what I've seen from various mafia teammates over the past year, I think Jay is capable of a massive blunder.

But I still agree with the with the above statement.

Polo wrote:Before I sleep:

a2thezebra is not on the poll.

I demand a recount.

Long Con wrote:
Dex wrote:Who wants to do a sortie? Only B1, C2, C6, F1 and F3 remain.
WOW! We're that close, eh?

I will send a Sortie to B1 then.

Denied.

And I would LOVE to snuggle a pickle in a jar right now!@

Dex wrote:Who wants to do a sortie? Only B1, C2, C6, F1 and F3 remain.

Go get 'em tiger!

I'm full of pizza and beer, and am going to sleep now because sleepy I'm tired.

I've found the hidden message.

Ricochet wrote:Villain much for Inconvenient Oven hylotheism overconfidence another law or ammendment or revocation. Did he fall asleep? Is this Martha Jones of the martial law?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Polo wrote:I've won all of the 4 games I played.
Don't tell Ricochet.

Polo wrote:Oh, somebody got insanified.
How do you know locate an insanifier chowchow Obscure Boot?

Since I can't be nightkilled, I wonder how safe I will be if I shout...

"DOWN WITH CAIN! DOWN WITH CAIN! DOWN WITH CAIN! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!"

Black Rock wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Black Rock wrote:Do you really think our host is so black and white?
No...I always assumed he was...golden.
That's why I love you!

So say we all!

Marmots don't have feathers. Do your worst SVS!!!

Polo wrote:I've won all of the 4 games I played.

Don't tell Ricochet.

Polo wrote:All trouble aside, though, I'd like to say that I've been having a lot of fun in this game. Mafia is cool as frak and I should have started playing earlier.

You come from PA right? You missed all the games Snow Dog used to play if you did.

Zebra, I have a legit question for you. Which do you think helps mafia more: A half-player claim where half of the players claim Cylon, or a mass-claim where everyone claims Cylon?

We're roughly halfway (maybe further) to a mass-Cylon claim as it is. Do you suggest we just stop in our tracks?

Polo wrote:Claim Cylon and I might read you good.

Unless of course you come up with the idea. :P

Sortie B4

Sortie List:

Spoiler: show

I volunteer Ricochet.

Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:Also, just want to put this out there for the small faction that is screeching for my blood: why don't you just leave me alone and let the Cylons kill me?
Can the Cylons kill you?

Downton style.

Glorfindel wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:
Polo wrote:Glorfindel, do you have a legitimate reason not to claim Cylon? Are you John Cavil?

I am here JJJ, please make good use of my time.
Largely a matter of principle and no, you have my word that I am not John Cavil. I want to re-read the cases for and against in relation to the claiming thing. I do however suspect something entirely sinister is going on here (feel free to call me paranoid. I have a question for you though - would Youi or anyone like to speculate on why we had the Cylon Amnesty Act in the first place? What could our President been trying to achieve by passing that law? I'd be most interested in any conjecture anyone would care to volunteer on this matter.
I notice that I've had no response to this question that I asked - so I will ask again...

Good question. I'm lost on this one tbh. The President can't be a Cylon herself, so I dunno.

Happy birthday juliets.

sig wrote:Aww I messed up my own joke by bolding and not underlining.

Also this was the first GTH that everyone read me as bad.
You'd be wrong, but if it will help your concerns I'll claim cylon tomorrow. Since I'd rather not be lynched.

You're so bad.

Can't even get your jokes straight.

ObscureAllure wrote:I is trying so hard not to go do-do. Must.wait.for.EOD.post

Are you sure you're not squeezing one out with each syllable you marked with a period here?

I'm going to bed before this turns into another terrible night of ass jokes.

Silverwolf wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:I'm a hell of a lot nicer and easy going IRL than I am in a Mafia game. Mafia makes me crazy but I love it cuz I'm crazy.
You don't seem not nice to me in mafia, only emotional and defensive. I'm sure you are quite lovely to spend time with irl.

Yeah, I can be that way in a game.

Also, ika comes off as very abrasive in mafia games but is one of the nicest, most caring people you will ever meet IRL.

Mafia just brings out emotions because we are all accusing each other of being murders. I don't know how it can not.

I admire those that keep their cool in games. I am working on it but nowhere close to being able to do that.

I resort to humor in such instances. It usually doesn't work though, because who wants to hear a crappy joke when someone else is staring daggers at them through their monitor?

I do get mad at myself from time-to-time, but that's mainly because of my horrendous scum-hunting abilities.

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