The Syndicate

(Oh and for the record. I did Druid 1 TSP on Night 1 and he went nowhere, so Rask's roleblock is probably legit)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:36 pm I would like to double down on thinking that marmot is a wolf

Go right ahead

Jack can be partnered with TSP mainly because he soulread TSP town all day yesterday, and if TSP is mafia and dunia is town, that means Jack was wrong on exactly two of his most confident Day 2 reads.

TSP also blatantly shielded LP yesterday.

These are arguments for openwolfing wolves, but that's a thing wolves do so sure it can work.

I also feel like I'm moving towards a TSP/LP/Urist(orMaybeJackOrMaybeBoth) world

LP and TSP seem like reasonable scum team fits. Rask can't be paired with TSP. Dya probably isn't paired LP.

I guess NAA and Wilgy could literally be teammates, but I do think scum!NAA isn't doing himself any favors defending a POE candidated if Wilgy is town.

Also per my observation yesterday, the thread got quieter when the wagon jumped from LP to NAA, which makes those two look unaligned AND LP like the potential scum between the two.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:45 pm Ok, I'll give you a DrWilgy case, tell me if you think I'm being genuine or not:

DrWilgy is barely playing, yet you can tell he's reading back if you go through his ISO there are several posts where he's not just directly talking about the currently active topic in the thread. When he does this, he's not exclusively doing this as a vanity search for his own name either.

DrWilgy doesn't seem to have an agenda to push, he comes to the thread without a clear idea of who he's going to push, or who he pushed in the past.

I think DrWilgy is obviously town.

I like this take tbh, thanks for taking the time to explain it.

So Rask and TSP are unlikely paired.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:29 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:24 pm @Le petit poussin what action did you take last night?
I blocked TSP

Ah yes here it is

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:23 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:22 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:33 pm HK
NAA
Marmot
NAA
Syn
Jack
TSP
Dolby
Rask
This is probably a list of townreads in order but feel free to clarify TSP
in retrospect i should've known bc he included himself

He didn't want to look to townie

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:19 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:18 pm Who blocked TSP N1?
was tsp blocked n1?

Someone said they blocked him I forget who

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:33 pm HK
NAA
Marmot
NAA
Syn
Jack
TSP
Dolby
Rask

This is probably a list of townreads in order but feel free to clarify TSP

Your ISO just got a control feed from dolby so take that

Who blocked TSP N1?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:15 pm Also what no I didnt

Case in point

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:15 pm Ah got it

I'm nott sure that you do

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:34 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:32 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:31 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:30 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:29 pm I don't think DrWilgy is mafia.
This is where you would then add, “because…..”
I've tried on other cases, nobody will care either way about justifications, and will just continue with their read.
Let's try this.

I don't care about your read with a lack of justification.
I'm already committed to sheeping Scotty to victory or defeat. I think this town needs more followers right now.

Why Scotty?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:31 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:30 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:29 pm I don't think DrWilgy is mafia.
This is where you would then add, “because…..”
I've tried on other cases, nobody will care either way about justifications, and will just continue with their read.

Let's try this.

I don't care about your read with a lack of justification.

And if Urist doesn't respond we just turbo him into the sun.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:22 pm fwiw Marmot and NAA, both Jack and Urist have publically taken the line that their cross is probably the result of a host error

I'm willing to wait for more info from Urist before proceeding on that front, but NAA's stance is something I want to address now.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:20 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:15 pm Why do you think Urist is scum in the Urist/Jack cc when Jack himself is even calling Urist town?
If I considered everyone's town reads, then the entire game is town. Good solve.

I don't recall seeing this from Jack, but I'll take your word that it happened post-mech talk.

My point is that Jack and Urist entered a CC. Jack then decided that Urist was truthful and called it a day.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:57 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:53 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:52 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:51 pm Urist, are you Paladin 3?
Paladin 2 is also a block…
Yes, but Paladin 3 informs the blockee they were blocked.
Hence, you saying you don’t know if you were blocked or not, and urist saying you should know you were blocked..
If he used Pal3. If he used Pal2, I wouldn’t.

You’re making a claim for Urist. Urist claimed a block on me AFTER I said I didn’t know if I was blocked or not so if Urist was gonna say I was mechanically outted as lying, he could have said it then.

Maybe he’ll come back and say so (a lie or a host error) but I doubt it cause host error isn’t that common and Urist likely town.

If you think they're both wolves, that's fine, but assuming that you don't why do you take away from this interaction between Urist and Jack that Urist is scum and Jack is town when Jack himself, who has more info in this CC than any of us do, is calling Urist town from it?

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:17 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:16 pm Urist, Jack, and NAA are w/w/w and they're just going to push this toward an LP chop as the day goes on.
4th or the team isn't real

Dolby (4,000)

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:16 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:15 pm Why do you think Urist is scum in the Urist/Jack cc when Jack himself is even calling Urist town?
this actually isn't a bad take but I'm gonna leave NAA to explain

I'm curious to hear what Urist says, but based on what we've seen thus far, I read it as Jack trying to sweep it under the rug.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:15 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:12 pm I think Urist & LP are mafia within the conflicting claims. I think @Marmot is looking to see what narrative is available rather than scum hunting, thoughts?
Anything is possible.

I mean, just check Marmot’s signature

Ok, but make a case before you let the tinfoil take over at least.

Why do you think Urist is scum in the Urist/Jack cc when Jack himself is even calling Urist town?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:12 pm I think Urist & LP are mafia within the conflicting claims. I think @Marmot is looking to see what narrative is available rather than scum hunting, thoughts?

What makes you think that?

I'm also ready to elim LP after the way she went after dya earlier today, but am not voting yet.

Also, I don't understand why TSP townreads her from her play.

@TonyStarkPrime please tell me why you blocked me.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:09 pm Are you mafia?

Mostly

Yes I have more than 2 CP, I just haven't assigned it all.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:56 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:54 pm NAA said some stuff about not understanding CP n0 and N1 and I believe it
So he just used Warrior 1, then put both of his available CP to make Warrior 3?

Eh. I guess I can believe it.

I intentionally am level 1 druid and level 1 paladin right now because those abilities have 95% success rate, and more likely to give me CP.

I still think it's weird that NAA claims to have not know how it worked tbh.

Oooh, I see. I forgot about the extra informed bit of the Paladin ability.

TSP please beg for mercy and tell me I'm town and also wtf did you block me?

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:00 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:59 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:57 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:55 pm someone tell me if jack is outed please

I'm voting for him anyway but it'd be nice to know if I'm accidentally super smart
Either Jack is outted or Urist is outted

one or the other
Neither of them received CP right?
urist received CP

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, how is it a cc?

I didn't receive CP last night, and I confirmed with the host that I wasn't to know whether it was because I was blocked, or because my action failed.

TSP later claimed to block me, so I know that answer.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:57 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:55 pm someone tell me if jack is outed please

I'm voting for him anyway but it'd be nice to know if I'm accidentally super smart
Either Jack is outted or Urist is outted

one or the other

Neither of them received CP right?

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:55 pm someone tell me if jack is outed please

I'm voting for him anyway but it'd be nice to know if I'm accidentally super smart

There was a cc that was probably misunderstood by both Jack and Urist, so nothing outing.

I am a level 1 paladin and can heal you, but now I don't want to.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:12 pm I blocked marmot which means by law of reciprocity marmot is required to poison heal me

Lmfao jerk

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:45 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:44 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:48 pm I want to kill everyone who's had a read that "LP wouldn't do this as mafia because it's bad as either alignment"

That's Dolby, Urist, TSP off the top of my head.

I'll add NAA to this list too.
?

Oh, maybe I misread your post. I thought you were accusing Dolby, Urist, and TSP of doing things that are bad as either alignment.

I saw that there was an NAA wagon earlier, it's curious to see that one has gone missing. But I'm also still catching up, so maybe I'll spot the reason for that.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:48 pm I want to kill everyone who's had a read that "LP wouldn't do this as mafia because it's bad as either alignment"

That's Dolby, Urist, TSP off the top of my head.

I'll add NAA to this list too.

I don't believe there is any distinction in being blocked, or rolling a miss on your action, if that information helps anyone.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:48 am Also, is this one of those "I'll be active later and actually want to play" or "I'll be active later, but I rather NAA conduct an impromptu hammer operation and cause the game to end"

I've said what I intend to, so you'll just have to deal with my passive engagement of the thread right now

The promise of a good breakfast from my housemates

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:28 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:24 am
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:09 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am TSP is only wolf if Sig is also wolf, that's my associative read, if Sig is wolf, we deserve to lose. We've had so many opportunities to kill Sig in the night.
If this is about the poison, the warrior who poisoned him used war1 on n1 and then skipped straight to war3 on n2.

I think the associative to make is that if tsp was poisoned by wolves, then sig is mafia.
I don't understand this step in logic
Why would wolves poison someone when they can kill someone?
It's moot speculation anyway unless naa is mafia, which i doubt.

There are plenty of reasons that I won't dive into at this moment.

I'm not tilted yet either, but won't be able to fully immerse myself today until later

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:09 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am TSP is only wolf if Sig is also wolf, that's my associative read, if Sig is wolf, we deserve to lose. We've had so many opportunities to kill Sig in the night.
If this is about the poison, the warrior who poisoned him used war1 on n1 and then skipped straight to war3 on n2.

I think the associative to make is that if tsp was poisoned by wolves, then sig is mafia.

I don't understand this step in logic

It's possible the setup changed.

Also why did you poison tsp?

Quick TSP, kill sig to make this a true reprise

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