The Syndicate

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:16 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:14 am and I didn't understand what Mac's role was.
no? this doesnt seem like the truth

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:47 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:36 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:35 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:34 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:33 pm Honestly I would rather the wagoned players vote Mac by EOD so we can speed up the process. If you're town and wagoned you might better want to get yourself out of this game before town wastes another day lynching you.
That’s what I’ve been saying.

@Marmot @S~V~S @RondoDimBuckle
If you vote mac, I will too
Why am I voting Mac?
If mac gets 3 votes he can kill 1 of them in the night.

Wanna put your faith in mac daddy?
I selfishly don't want Mac to kill me and I don't trust he won't.
explain this post if you didnt understand mac's role?

-t

Yes I saw that, but I didn't know what his role was, and I didn't trust what Scotty was saying in that moment.

I had paranoid thoughts that Mac could blow up his entire wagon or do something more sinister. I know that w!Mac doesn't go deep into games do to other players' perception of his meta, and that was something I expected would happen.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:08 am i think marmot is towny af both in terms of day talk today and in terms of their claim and role

im a bit wary coz they're an amazing wolf

but i dont want them to be shot/chopped today

i think we should clear hk and 112 with our shot and chop

realistically high chance they're both town sadly but. we need to do this, either today or later

i would be happy if marmot votes mac today though to give him the choice to shoot them. just to show their good will like scotty and svs and michelle

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also i would invite u all to stop crushing on sloonei. yes he's the champ and he's cute and amazing but he's also probably scum and ur townreading him and giving him a pass only because you like him, no other reason

-t

If the primary chop is consensus enought that I can put my vote elsewhere, I will.

I didn't yesterday because I was very behind on the gamestate, and had varying levels of scumreads on both Mac and Scotty, and I didn't understand what Mac's role was.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 11:05 pm You know what,

Neon 25% of the wolves - But didnt die last night, argueable that nutella was a more important kill since people were calling her 3P SK
Wilgy 25% of the wolves - Killed a wolf that was giving up
Sig 25% of the wolves - Hero shot Alison
Seanzie (10) - Marmot, falcon45ca, Neon, Party Crasher, Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Porscha, Kate - 25% of the wolves - Voted Sean - 10 people = 3.125% each

Neon 28.125% wolf killer
Wilgy 25% wolf killer
Sig 25% wolf killer
Marmot 3.125% wolf killer - I believe said they were sheeping Nutella? But they were on scotty till the final seconds, almost as bad a look as PC - perhaps scotty is wolf and they wanted credit for seanzie?
Falcon 3.125% wolf killer - Called me straight up scum D1 I think and joined Ender, why did they end on seanzie? was on me for ages and finally switched to Seanzie? Why?
PC 3.125% wolf killer - tutuu wanted me hard, why are they on seanzie? on scotty till final seconds - perhaps scotty is wolf and they wanted credit for seanzie?
Dyslexicon 3.125% wolf killer - On seanzie from 13 hours out - I believe they scum read me, so why they were on seanzie end of day beats me, possibly said they were sheeping nutella
Lily 3.125% wolf killer - just under 12 hours on him. Perhaps could see the writing on the wall and that I would defend myself harder than seanzie? But its a good look
Porscha 3.125% wolf killer - I believed town read me ( I would have to look back to confirm) and voted seanzie 3.5 hours out - is this a wolfy jump on?
Kate 3.125% wolf killer - Was on SVS till the final tally

I think Sig should be clear Mac, at least more clear than anyone on the Seanzie wagon (Except Neon)

You wanted to bring probabilities. The probability of Sig busting open the game with an Alison kill as wolf is so low. But this is me thinking about how you wanted Sig hard after the Alison shot

Maybe I am just catching up to you. This isnt me saying sig 100% town but yeah.. I am coming around to him being basically town

One of Marmot / Falcon / PC / Kate should be a wolf? I would think Marmot or PC.

Interested in what other people think

Thanks for the vote timers Urist

I voted Sean based on my residual Day 1 read of him and the bad prods he was pushing at me.

Also, for all intents and purposes, I wasn't in the thread at all Day 2 until the final hour of the day, the Scotty vote came from earlier in the day (and that might've been a nutella sheep).

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:22 pm people voting for guillotine should feel bad about themselves

This is not a useful way to convince people otherwise.

Why is Guillo a bad vote here?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:19 pm @Sloonei I know asking you might be silly but have you ever actually slank wolfed with like no concered effort to wolfside included? Be honest or I'll hit you.

What did w!Sloonei look like in scum chat in Philosopher II Mafia?

I know he subbed out EOD1 and was incredibly slanky before, but do you recall anything from behind the scenes?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:00 am @Marmot Question: Why did you decide to claim your role?

I popped into the thread and saw that I had 8 votes yesterday, and I knew I had no time to defend myself at that moment, so I hinted that nutella could vouch for my role because it felt like the best strategy to alleviate the pressure.

I didn't intend to fully roleclaim, but discussion about my role today basically concluded it, so I confirmed it.

Lesson I learned from Shadow Corridors Mafia. We should continue whittling down the consensus POE, not attempt to take shots outside of that group. I like Rondo's point that MR's slankiness might be indicative of a wolf team losing WIM, I think that's something we should pay attention to as well.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:07 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:00 pm End of Day 2 vote progression
Spoiler: show

11:00
RondoDimBuckle (5) - falcon45ca, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (5) - Golden, Alison, sig, Sloonei, Scotty
Scotty (4) - hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot, Party Crasher
Seanzie (5) - nutella, Neon, Dyslexicon, Michelle, MacDougall

12:30
RondoDimBuckle (7) - Sloonei, falcon45ca, nutella, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (5) - Golden, Alison, sig, Scotty, Kate
Scotty (4) - hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot, Party Crasher
Seanzie (5) - Neon, Dyslexicon, Michelle, Lilypetal, MacDougall

14:30
RondoDimBuckle (6) - Sloonei, falcon45ca, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (4) - Golden, sig, Scotty, Kate
Scotty (4) - hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot, Party Crasher
Seanzie (7) - nutella, Neon, Alison, Dyslexicon, Michelle, Lilypetal, MacDougall

16:30
RondoDimBuckle (8) - Sloonei, falcon45ca, Golden, Seanzie, MacDougall, Scotty, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (3) - Urist, sig, Kate
Scotty (4) - hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot, Party Crasher
Seanzie (7) - Dyslexicon, nutella, Neon, Alison, Michelle, Lilypetal, Porscha

17:00
RondoDimBuckle (7) - Sloonei, falcon45ca, Party Crasher, MacDougall, Scotty, Michelle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (7) - RondoDimBuckle, Urist, Seanzie, Creature, sig, Golden, Kate
Scotty (2) - hollowkatt, Marmot
Seanzie (7) - Master Radishes, nutella, Neon, Alison, Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Porscha

19:00 EOD
Seanzie (10) - Marmot, falcon45ca, nutella, Neon, Party Crasher, Alison, Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Porscha, Kate
RondoDimBuckle (6) - Urist, Sloonei, Creature, EnderWiggin, 112, Seanzie
Marmot (4) - MacDougall, Master Radishes, RondoDimBuckle, Scotty
S~V~S (2) - sig, Golden
Scotty (2) - hollowkatt, Michelle
Golden (1) - Guillotine
MacDougall (1) - S~V~S
sig (1) - DrWilgy

@Dyslexicon I would shoot Party Crasher.

I disagree.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:44 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:27 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:07 pm Creature:
**American Townie:**

You're a vanilla town, but with a gun. A gun that you have to use. Why else would you have a gun, if not to use it? That would be silly. Anyways, if you receive more than one vote during the day, the following night you MUST shoot someone who voted for you. Only eod votes are counted for the purposes of this role.

Example: on D2 you are voted by fingers, sabie, and nanook. On n2 you must choose to shoot one of those three.

If Alison didn't kill pyxxy, this might've been how he died.
wait did we seriously all miss this lmaooo

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:32 pm Also ftr I'm kinda distrustful about Alison shooting pyxxy.
creature what are you doing man why didnt you call out alison earlier lmao

maybe he thought she also killed him?

and i guess why would alison fake claim the shot when she knows mafia played no part in pyxxy's death?

this is so weird...

maybe one of alison's partner and creature both shot pyxxy?

@MacDougall are u still sure guillo is ur role, coz then that's 3 identical roles, not 2

I'd guess that Creature accepted the "PR" cover, although in hindsight he wasn't a PR.

Maybe he figured he could clear himself later. His self-vote does make it fairly clear he was attempting to use his KP in hindsight, and probably a cc he could make if needed.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:05 pm
Spoiler: show
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:23 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:14 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:04 pm Look at me having WiM and shit.

I love this game.
nice job!

Can you do me a solid and grab all the votes from d1/2 like wilgy did (you have it quoted, I just want to make sure its ALL the vote) and update it with the MR flip colour for me? I would but I dont have the time atm
Only cause I like you

Cape90 ( 16 ): Seanzie, S~V~S, sig, Golden, Inawordyes, Party Crasher, MacDougall, Le petit poussin, Kate, nutella, Marmot, Urist, Alison, EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, Michelle
Inawordyes ( 8 ): Scotty, DrWilgy, 112, Sloonei, Master Radishes, Lilypetal, Sabiplz, Cape90
Dennis ( 3 ): Guillotine, Neon, falcon45ca
MacDougall ( 3 ): RondoDimBuckle, Porscha, Dennis
Creature ( 2 ): pyxxy, Creature
Guillotine ( 1 ): TonyStarkPrime
Party Crasher ( 1 ): hollowkatt
pyxxy ( 1 ): ilario
not voting ( shrug emoji ): idk lol I think nobody

Seanzie ( 10 ): Marmot, falcon45ca, nutella, Neon, Party Crasher, Alison, Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Porscha, Kate
RondoDimBuckle ( 6 ): Urist, Sloonei, Creature, EnderWiggin, 112, Seanzie
Marmot ( 4 ): MacDougall, Master Radishes, RondoDimBuckle, Scotty
S~V~S ( 2 ): sig, Golden
Scotty ( 2 ): hollowkatt, Michelle
Golden ( 1 ): Guillotine
MacDougall ( 1 ): S~V~S
sig ( 1 ): DrWilgy
not voting ( idk hopefully none of you lol ): shrug emoji

Assuming I didn't fuck anything up redoing this

ty, what are the odds no mafia is voting me?

oh you missed seanzie on me last night.

D1:
MacDougall ( 3 ): RondoDimBuckle, Porscha, Dennis - is Porscha likely to vote Mac d1 as wolf? I think she tries to hide and just chills. @Porscha can you explain your vote here?
Dennis ( 3 ): Guillotine, Neon, falcon45ca - If Falcon and Neon I read as towny is Guillo a wolf trying to vote off wagon on a 'scummy' guy?
Party Crasher ( 1 ): hollowkatt are one of these two a wolf? aka is HK a wolf voting off wagon because D1 is town eating town?

Cape90 ( 16 ): Seanzie, S~V~S, sig, Golden, Inawordyes, Party Crasher, MacDougall, Le petit poussin, Kate, nutella, Marmot, Urist, Alison, EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, Michelle
color=#00FF00]Inawordyes[/color] ( 8 ): Scotty, DrWilgy, 112, Sloonei, Master Radishes, Lilypetal, Sabiplz, Cape90

- SVS / Sig / Golden / PC / Mac / Kate / Marmot / Urist / Ender / Dyslexicon / Michelle = VS = Scotty / Wilgy / 112 / Sloonie / Lily
[A:] SVS / Sig / Golden / PC / Mac / Kate / Marmot / Urist / Ender / Dyslexicon / Michelle
[B:] Scotty / Wilgy / 112 / Sloonie / Lily

D2:
S~V~S ( 2 ): sig, Golden - Do both of them look wolfy? Is it likely both wolves stick on the same spot when Seanzie is going over and be ineffectual? likely not wolves (trying to push a useless wagon EOD? Trying to hide from the fallout of too many town?)
Scotty ( 2 ): hollowkatt, Michelle - Do both of them look wolfy? Is it likely both wolves stick on the same spot when Seanzie is going over and be ineffectual? likely not wolves (but damn if HK has been mighty useless this game, probably 3p?) (trying to push a useless wagon EOD? Trying to hide from the fallout of too many town?)
Golden ( 1 ): Guillotine - trying to push a useless wagon EOD? Trying to hide from the fallout of too many town? or not a wolf because seanzie is going over?
MacDougall ( 1 ): S~V~S - trying to get herself culled but no one else was ballsy enough to join. Towny move?
sig ( 1 ): DrWilgy - lol not a wolf

Seanzie ( 10 ): Marmot, falcon45ca, nutella, Neon, Party Crasher, Alison, Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Porscha, Kate
RondoDimBuckle ( 6 ): Urist, Sloonei, Creature, EnderWiggin, 112, Seanzie

Marmot / Falcon / Neon / PC / Dyslexicon / Lily / Porscha / Kate VS = Urist / Sloonie / Ender / 112
[A:] Marmot / Falcon / Neon / PC / Dyslexicon / Lily / Porscha / Kate =
[B:] Urist / Sloonie / Ender / 112

this is not me calling people town or wolves to be used for lylo, its how likely I think they are wolf from the flips and vote assessment. I want to hear other peoples thoughts on this.

Yellow twice:
Lily / Marmot / Urist / 112

Give me your trust falls and your confbias pls

my order would be:

112 > Lily > Marmot > Urist today

Tomorrow

112 > Urist > Marmot > Lily

Rondo already making plans for LYLO I see

What does the phrase "Yellow Twice" mean here?

I do agree that the Sean wagon looks solid outside of Lily/Porsche. I'll include Dizzy too because I think he jumped onto my wagon briefly.

Ender is the only person on your wagon I can call town at the moment.

Why is Urist in a potential wolf category here? I thought you could (eventually) vouch for him.

@Guillotine I notice you haven't posted today, do you plan to?

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:28 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:41 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:35 pm Just one last thing, I didn't admit to misinterpreting. I pointed out my belief of you being purposefully obtuse. I'm not trying to insult you all, I swear. I think youre doing your job or playing your role. I just think I caught you and I don't want to let my belief fade away in the thread.
I know you aren't trying to insult me, I think you're a wolf who's attempting to continue keeping pressure on me, which is what I was referring to when I said I didn't like your approach.
You’re both town. But if one of you is wolf it’s marmot. Kate is absolutely just not a wolf. But you’re both town, and I think not tinfoiling each other will help us win.

[VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine

Why is Kate not a wolf rn?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:56 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:55 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:51 pm Are SVS and Scotty viable wagons? I don't intend to delve into anyone more than I need to right now.

Although like maybe I could offer thoughts on my fellow Canuckleheads or something but they don't seem relevant atm.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:02 pm Oh SVS is a viable wagon now too.
MR didn't follow up on these posts, so it wouldn't surprise me if at least one of Scotty/SVS was a wolf.
I would suggest that SOMEONES PoE is correct at this point for him to have no wim and give up

This is probably Radish-indicative, but this is a reasonable point tbh.

This sort of coincided with Mac writing his dissertation on the gamestate, wolves rolling over and dying in that scenario wouldn't surprise me.

(That's right @JaggedJimmyJay, Mac finished his dissertation before you did)

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:31 am Hello, friends.

Hi cutie <3

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:15 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:55 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:51 pm Are SVS and Scotty viable wagons? I don't intend to delve into anyone more than I need to right now.

Although like maybe I could offer thoughts on my fellow Canuckleheads or something but they don't seem relevant atm.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:02 pm Oh SVS is a viable wagon now too.
MR didn't follow up on these posts, so it wouldn't surprise me if at least one of Scotty/SVS was a wolf.
This feels more like flailing to me, but you do you.

Who is even in the POE right now with Radishes gone?

I'm looking through MR posts for potential spew.

Why do you and Kate choose to respond to my posts in this way?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:07 pm Creature:
**American Townie:**

You're a vanilla town, but with a gun. A gun that you have to use. Why else would you have a gun, if not to use it? That would be silly. Anyways, if you receive more than one vote during the day, the following night you MUST shoot someone who voted for you. Only eod votes are counted for the purposes of this role.

Example: on D2 you are voted by fingers, sabie, and nanook. On n2 you must choose to shoot one of those three.

If Alison didn't kill pyxxy, this might've been how he died.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:30 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:23 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:14 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:04 pm Look at me having WiM and shit.

I love this game.
nice job!

Can you do me a solid and grab all the votes from d1/2 like wilgy did (you have it quoted, I just want to make sure its ALL the vote) and update it with the MR flip colour for me? I would but I dont have the time atm
Only cause I like you

Cape90 ( 16 ): Seanzie, S~V~S, sig, Golden, Inawordyes, Party Crasher, MacDougall, Le petit poussin, Kate, nutella, Marmot, Urist, Alison, EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, Michelle
Inawordyes ( 8 ): Scotty, DrWilgy, 112, Sloonei, Master Radishes, Lilypetal, Sabiplz, Cape90
Dennis ( 3 ): Guillotine, Neon, falcon45ca
MacDougall ( 3 ): RondoDimBuckle, Porscha, Dennis
Creature ( 2 ): pyxxy, Creature
Guillotine ( 1 ): TonyStarkPrime
Party Crasher ( 1 ): hollowkatt
pyxxy ( 1 ): ilario
not voting ( shrug emoji ): idk lol I think nobody

Seanzie ( 10 ): Marmot, falcon45ca, nutella, Neon, Party Crasher, Alison, Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Porscha, Kate
RondoDimBuckle ( 6 ): Urist, Sloonei, Creature, EnderWiggin, 112, Seanzie
Marmot ( 4 ): MacDougall, Master Radishes, RondoDimBuckle, Scotty
S~V~S ( 2 ): sig, Golden
Scotty ( 2 ): hollowkatt, Michelle
Golden ( 1 ): Guillotine
MacDougall ( 1 ): S~V~S
sig ( 1 ): DrWilgy
not voting ( idk hopefully none of you lol ): shrug emoji

Assuming I didn't fuck anything up redoing this
There's gotta be at least 1 more Maf on Cape I'd think

I think it would depend on how many more wolves there, but given that the three primary wagons on Day 1 were town, the wolves probably didn't have incentive to push any of them in particular.

I see DrWilgy was the one who originally assembled that.

I'll give the doctor credit too.

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:23 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:14 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:04 pm Look at me having WiM and shit.

I love this game.
nice job!

Can you do me a solid and grab all the votes from d1/2 like wilgy did (you have it quoted, I just want to make sure its ALL the vote) and update it with the MR flip colour for me? I would but I dont have the time atm
Only cause I like you

Cape90 ( 16 ): Seanzie, S~V~S, sig, Golden, Inawordyes, Party Crasher, MacDougall, Le petit poussin, Kate, nutella, Marmot, Urist, Alison, EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, Michelle
Inawordyes ( 8 ): Scotty, DrWilgy, 112, Sloonei, Master Radishes, Lilypetal, Sabiplz, Cape90
Dennis ( 3 ): Guillotine, Neon, falcon45ca
MacDougall ( 3 ): RondoDimBuckle, Porscha, Dennis
Creature ( 2 ): pyxxy, Creature
Guillotine ( 1 ): TonyStarkPrime
Party Crasher ( 1 ): hollowkatt
pyxxy ( 1 ): ilario
not voting ( shrug emoji ): idk lol I think nobody

Seanzie ( 10 ): Marmot, falcon45ca, nutella, Neon, Party Crasher, Alison, Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Porscha, Kate
RondoDimBuckle ( 6 ): Urist, Sloonei, Creature, EnderWiggin, 112, Seanzie
Marmot ( 4 ): MacDougall, Master Radishes, RondoDimBuckle, Scotty
S~V~S ( 2 ): sig, Golden
Scotty ( 2 ): hollowkatt, Michelle
Golden ( 1 ): Guillotine
MacDougall ( 1 ): S~V~S
sig ( 1 ): DrWilgy
not voting ( idk hopefully none of you lol ): shrug emoji

Assuming I didn't fuck anything up redoing this

Thanks Neon!!! This'll definitely be handy, and you saved me the effort of doing it myself.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:57 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Good shot DrW

Why are you voting for me?

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:56 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:55 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:51 pm Are SVS and Scotty viable wagons? I don't intend to delve into anyone more than I need to right now.

Although like maybe I could offer thoughts on my fellow Canuckleheads or something but they don't seem relevant atm.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:02 pm Oh SVS is a viable wagon now too.
MR didn't follow up on these posts, so it wouldn't surprise me if at least one of Scotty/SVS was a wolf.
I’ve been nursing a scotty mafia read for awhile but creatures flip made me think I was wrong.

Out of the two who seems more Mafiash

Gth Scotty, but I haven't had the chance to look at SVS yet.

Do you have a read on her?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:51 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:39 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:13 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:10 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:05 pm This is stupid because svs is caught wolf and no one is listening.

I'd love to be pointed at the part where it became apparent SVS is a caught wolf actually.
As has been discussed, those that know civ SVS can see that a civ SVS would have more fire.

Is it damning that she isn’t doing civ SVS things here? No, it could very well be that she just doesn’t have the time and it’s throwing off people’s meta reads.

I won’t pretend to know SVS as well as any of the other old schoolers, but it makes sense if you look at the viewpoint of those that do.

Conversely? I don’t think anyone in this game is a caught wolf. Otherwise they’d have 20 votes on them
This is getting a bit much. I'm not sure what 'fire' you expect to see. Most of the past fire you've seen is me being pissed that someone murdered my BFF. Hope you're not looking forward to that here.

You don't appear to have answered me when I asked about why you abandoned me at Macs. You got me to vote Mac, then you went and voted for my main suspect at the last second, becasue he wouldn't vote for Mac (which I had done) ignoring the two big wagons, including the one that flipped bad. WTF was that about?
Mac needed 3 to do his thing. I’ve been eating a lot more but I don’t think I count as 2 people with my current weight

I switched last minute to somewhere more productive

The good news is I view you as town for doing it

Ok yes, I'm down to vote Mac today if the wagons otherwise allow for it.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:51 pm Are SVS and Scotty viable wagons? I don't intend to delve into anyone more than I need to right now.

Although like maybe I could offer thoughts on my fellow Canuckleheads or something but they don't seem relevant atm.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:02 pm Oh SVS is a viable wagon now too.

MR didn't follow up on these posts, so it wouldn't surprise me if at least one of Scotty/SVS was a wolf.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:15 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:14 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:25 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:20 pm Friends, I adore your spirit but as with all things the only true path to victory is with love, not hate. We must suppress our hunger for chaos and replace it with a warm embrace. It is time to set aside our differences, to be tolerant and approach one another with care and concern for we are all united as one by this wonderful game and should celebrate our unity by playing firm, but fair, and important mindful of causing pain to your fellow mafia player.

See, this is a wolfy pop-in, and the kind of thing I'd expect from 112 trying to enter the game w/ limited time IRL.

Excellent VK candidate IMO
you're making no sense so an additional read i'll give (not like i haven't shared other reads before you requested i share some so idk what your point is with these posts) is that you're wolfing
Pretty sure Falcon isn't wolfing here tbh.

I'll sheep MR's read on this one.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:47 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:00 pm So like shoot me if you want but also don't. Either way I'll end up disappointed.
lolwat. !shoot

He's already dead

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:45 pm I'm voting [VOTE: Guillo] aubergine. Don't ask anything of me ever again.

Can I ask you to post 3 more times to reach 11,111 total?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:42 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:36 pm Alright well I'm done waiting for wilgy, I'll be back in 84 minutes to shoot somebody
You can also shoot someone?
Urist is claiming that they are going to win the competition.

Oh right, that's at thing isn't it.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

guck yeah!!!

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:36 pm Alright well I'm done waiting for wilgy, I'll be back in 84 minutes to shoot somebody

You can also shoot someone?

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:35 pm Just one last thing, I didn't admit to misinterpreting. I pointed out my belief of you being purposefully obtuse. I'm not trying to insult you all, I swear. I think youre doing your job or playing your role. I just think I caught you and I don't want to let my belief fade away in the thread.

I know you aren't trying to insult me, I think you're a wolf who's attempting to continue keeping pressure on me, which is what I was referring to when I said I didn't like your approach.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:22 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:19 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:14 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:08 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:07 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:15 am Mac why Dizzy?
I mean he's voting Rondo which is bad because of the pressure he had yday and i think it was enough, so Dizzy is going for what apparently is a consensus SR.
But that read on Rondo has changed and he keeps the suspicion.

What else is against Dizzy?
Let it be clear, Rondo is still in my PoE.

Ender should probably not be though.
What does your POE look like?
I wonder who radish is trying to save?

@Golden any guesses?

What are you implying here?
I'm implying that radishes is throwing himself under the bus to save a teammate who may be under less pressure, take the spotlight away.

Why do you keep pretending you don't know what I'm saying?

Your play over the last few pages has included instances of shading me or the things that I say, and you admittedly misrepresented the intention of my post in P#8855.

I'm asking you these questions because I don't understand your mindset or why you are choosing to engage me in this manner. When you say "I wonder who radish is trying to save?" in response to the post I made above, I can't tell if you're referring to me or someone that is referenced in the post I made. That's why I asked.

I want to assume you're having discussions with me in good faith, but I'm gathering that you aren't, and I don't like how you're going about it.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:14 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:08 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:07 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:15 am Mac why Dizzy?
I mean he's voting Rondo which is bad because of the pressure he had yday and i think it was enough, so Dizzy is going for what apparently is a consensus SR.
But that read on Rondo has changed and he keeps the suspicion.

What else is against Dizzy?
Let it be clear, Rondo is still in my PoE.

Ender should probably not be though.
What does your POE look like?
I wonder who radish is trying to save?

@Golden any guesses?

What are you implying here?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:15 pm Does anyone have an argument AGAINST MR being the dayvig?

Negatron

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:07 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:15 am Mac why Dizzy?
I mean he's voting Rondo which is bad because of the pressure he had yday and i think it was enough, so Dizzy is going for what apparently is a consensus SR.
But that read on Rondo has changed and he keeps the suspicion.

What else is against Dizzy?
Let it be clear, Rondo is still in my PoE.

Ender should probably not be though.

What does your POE look like?

Can you explain how you didn't understand your role and that it gave out guns?

Did you know that Wilgy was going to get a gun, just like Scotty?>

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:58 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:04 pm EnderWiggin - Ender's progressions and attempts to solve the game today look good. His role is confirmed and it's probably town (unless he's teammates with exactly DrWilgy and Scotty). @EnderWiggin why did you pick these two players.
N1 - I didn't know I gave guns. I made an assumption my ability was somehow a negative ability aka a kill/void/block/something so I targetted Scotty who was in my lower POE. Hence my vague statement at Scotty D2.

N2 - Now knowing I give guns I chose a townread who likely wouldn't be NK'ed to get a gun. I'm very confident Wilgy is town.

That makes sense, thanks.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:55 pm @Marmot Did you say you gave a tree to Neon? Were not afraid that Neon would be killed, seeing as how they shot a wolf?

While I do think Neon is obv-town, I do think there are other players who generally pose a bigger threat to mafia. No offense to Neon. I also put those players ahead of me on that list.

Also, I didn't realize she killed Sabi until today. :curtain:

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:52 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:49 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:47 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:45 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:36 pm @Marmot you said you give out trees what type of trees are they? Like literally what’s the names of the trees and what do said trees do
PC's assumption is correct, I'm basically a fruit vendor, but I was able to change the flavor of the role to trees.

The trees themselves do nothing, but if my target receives it, then I know the ability went through how I wanted it to, and indicates no fudgery happened.
Fruit vendor is NAI. Can be town, can be mafia, can be a fake claim or a 3rd party.
Obviously I can't prove my alignment with it, but nutella and Neon can vouch that is indeed my role.
Also Nutella is dead so don’t think that’s happening

I know, but she did confirm when she was a live that she received my tree.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:50 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:11 pm But no seriously it's always probably Rondo

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:11 pm I think Wilgz should shoot Urist
no for both, Urist is likely town for reasons.tm but I cant hard claim this. I can obv town myself but Id rather not for reasons.tm

@RondoDimBuckle oh, I took this as a mech reasons. I interpreted from this that you had a role that could clear yourself and him if necessary.

What is it about his play that you think you will be able to clear down the road?

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:47 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:45 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:36 pm @Marmot you said you give out trees what type of trees are they? Like literally what’s the names of the trees and what do said trees do
PC's assumption is correct, I'm basically a fruit vendor, but I was able to change the flavor of the role to trees.

The trees themselves do nothing, but if my target receives it, then I know the ability went through how I wanted it to, and indicates no fudgery happened.
Fruit vendor is NAI. Can be town, can be mafia, can be a fake claim or a 3rd party.

Obviously I can't prove my alignment with it, but nutella and Neon can vouch that is indeed my role.

I didn't want to be fully transparent due to the Soup Mafia existing, but I'm sure they've gathered the evidence they needed from the in thread conversations.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:36 pm @Marmot you said you give out trees what type of trees are they? Like literally what’s the names of the trees and what do said trees do

PC's assumption is correct, I'm basically a fruit vendor, but I was able to change the flavor of the role to trees.

The trees themselves do nothing, but if my target receives it, then I know the ability went through how I wanted it to, and indicates no fudgery happened.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:14 am
sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:39 am
sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:38 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:38 am
sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:37 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:33 am
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:04 am alison alive coz shes mafia

-tutuu
Honestly probably just clearing for PC.

@Golden given our POE yesterday ended up netting a wolf, shouldn't we just like, keep using it?
Okay, but why would this clear them from being third party or second team?

This is why I keep hesitating on you since you ignore the possibility of other than civ unless you’ve got a personal negative read on someone and that’s the only way to fit your thoughts with the obvious fact they can’t be mafia.

By the logic of multi ball/dangerous third party nobody is town a clear yet you’re handing out spew clears left and right?

Am I missing something here or what
I have stopped solving in multiball worlds. SVS pointed out there is pseudo mod confirmation of one mafia team in the OP.
Okay so why wouldn’t PC be on the third party team?
Assuming one exists which for arguments sake let’s say there is
I like the idea of hunting for definite mafia team before hypothetical evil 3P team.

Unless there's an obvious lead on 3P, and reason to believe they're anti-town.

Fortunately in this game, we will know when mafia is eliminated.

We know there is a mafia team that is not eliminated. Possibly more than one sure, but there is a mafia team.

It's reasonable to guess that there are 3Ps in this game, and that they aren't all pro-town, but without enough evidence on who 3Ps are, or whether or not we need to kill them, then I don't think it's useful to dive down that rabbit hole.

Did you think I was saying that we should be hunting for 3Ps here Kate? I was saying the opposite.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:43 pm Bc it was very clear what I was saying, that I think you have a reason for pointing to the 3p instead of the soup mafia (very nonchalantly i might add). You knew this and tried to change the point of the post to how are we strategizing when I was specifically talking about your mention of 3p.

Svs voted you right away and she's going to be firey day 3 svs today so I'm going to vote you too. Your flip will resolve both roles I believe.

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

My point in my original post that you responded to was that we should hunt for mafia first, and deal with 3Ps later. Was I not clear in how I expressed that?

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:34 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:09 am You guys aren't praising my glorious post enough. I feel unloved.
Ik this was sarcastic but from the big post skim (there was a lot of reading I’ll go back and fine tooth jt after work.

I think the logic holds up. Besides calling me entitled and a paranoid I’m not paranoid you’re paranoid.

I don’t quite understand the evolution you went through yesterday but you’re back on track now so win win

Mac is playing DnD too, and he just hit level 4.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:33 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:38 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 11:14 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:14 am
sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:39 am
sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:38 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:38 am

I have stopped solving in multiball worlds. SVS pointed out there is pseudo mod confirmation of one mafia team in the OP.
Okay so why wouldn’t PC be on the third party team?
Assuming one exists which for arguments sake let’s say there is
I like the idea of hunting for definite mafia team before hypothetical evil 3P team.

Unless there's an obvious lead on 3P, and reason to believe they're anti-town.

Fortunately in this game, we will know when mafia is eliminated.
This is a pretty wolfy post. Let me paraphase:

YEAH! let's keep looking for soup mafia yes, great idea, the other ideas are just hypotheticas! (However, please keep 3ps in your mind so I can come back around to them when I need to.)
What do you propose we do instead?
This is a post about deflection not a post about strategy. Now you're being twisty.

How am I being twisty?

I proposed a way to approach the game and handle other players in it. If you don't like it, then I want to know what strategy you would propose we use instead?

My Nanook read is that Party Crasher is either an NPC (via Secret Playerlist), or some other form of benign 3P, because the Game of Champions is generally an invitational for players who won a game the previous year, thus since there's a hydra of players who did not win any games the prior year, my guess is that they would not be put on a primary faction in this game.

(is that you Boq?)

Am I missing any mech claims that clear anyone else?

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