The Syndicate

Dom wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Sorsha wrote:Something else just occurred to me as I was washing dishes.

Golden shouldn't have too much doubt over my role. Iirc I was able to prove it to him before he even checked me. So as far as me not being the trickster there shouldn't be a doubt in his mind, and if I'm not the trickster then there would be no way for me to fool his check.

I have no problem with him checking again or whatever but if golden is to be believed then I don't know how he could seriously be doubting me. But paranoia, so yeah.
I don't think anybody thinks your the Trickster.
her the trickster?

If you want to find the Trickster, you gotta think like a Trickster. They're tricksy like that.

Sorsha wrote:Something else just occurred to me as I was washing dishes.

Golden shouldn't have too much doubt over my role. Iirc I was able to prove it to him before he even checked me. So as far as me not being the trickster there shouldn't be a doubt in his mind, and if I'm not the trickster then there would be no way for me to fool his check.

I have no problem with him checking again or whatever but if golden is to be believed then I don't know how he could seriously be doubting me. But paranoia, so yeah.

I don't think anybody thinks your the Trickster.

Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Why can't MM win with the civs?
The general assumption is that I am a non-civvie, non-baddie role or something.
Who can you win with?

The awesome-possum people.

Hey timmer, remember that other map game where I tried to vote for you every single day.

Good times.

Turnip Head wrote:Why can't MM win with the civs?

The general assumption is that I am a non-civvie, non-baddie role or something.

Tranq wrote:@ MM: How realistic do you think the odds of a Sorsha lynch are today? I'd say pretty low, and i'm not even fully convinced she's bad atm. Vote TH if you want to lynch a Circle member.

Which reminds me. Golden, did you learn anything from your backtracking of Sorsha?

You keep telling me I can't win, yet you want me to do what you say?

I'm a sucker for math though. :P

I guess what it comes down to is behind the scenes stuff. For some reason, everybody knows my role even though I thought it was entrusted with a couple civs. That turned out to be a lie, because everybody suddenly wants me dead even though I'm not a baddie and they know it. Draco is trustworthy in my book, but Golden and Sorsha less so.

Based on circumstances, I think it's Sorsha. I'll keep an eye on Golden, because he's definitely not been the ideal game-solver he's been expecting to be, but I think that is all a result of him trusting Sorsha.

Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Golden wrote:
fingersplints wrote:That is an acceptable answer.
How acceptable - because... to me this matters very much. If you believe SVS killed you today, I also think MM is the right choice for a lynch.

And that also means... that I think tranq was right all along, and the trickster could fool us even in voting for them on the poll.
Lolwut?

There could be 4 Circle of Decay members and you want to lynch me?
Want to lynch Golden with me?

I'd rather lynch Sorsha. She is sneaky, and has played us since the beginning. I think Golden has been similarly played. What do you think?

Golden wrote:
fingersplints wrote:That is an acceptable answer.
How acceptable - because... to me this matters very much. If you believe SVS killed you today, I also think MM is the right choice for a lynch.

And that also means... that I think tranq was right all along, and the trickster could fool us even in voting for them on the poll.

Lolwut?

There could be 4 Circle of Decay members and you want to lynch me?

Matt wrote:

Is timmer the new Blinkman?

I'll name two, Dom and Sorsha.

TH is another candidate, but not as likely of one imo.

Would TH have been accidentally lynched over timmer the other day if he was Skrippletitz?

Sorsha.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Sorsha wrote:What do you think of SVS?
What about you?

Sorsha wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sorsha

Congrats on not dying fingerplints.
What do you think of Golden? I'm more or less 100% sure he's bad.
I'm pretty sure he's civ tbqh.

Between him and Sorsha, I think Sorsha is far more likely to be evil.
What do you think of SVS?

I trust her and don't want to lynch her.

What about you?

Sorsha wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sorsha

Congrats on not dying fingerplints.
No U

You're obviously bad. A civ Sorsha would not benefit from lynching me.

Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sorsha

Congrats on not dying fingerplints.
What do you think of Golden? I'm more or less 100% sure he's bad.

I'm pretty sure he's civ tbqh.

Between him and Sorsha, I think Sorsha is far more likely to be evil.

Sorsha

Congrats on not dying fingerplints.

Sorsha wrote:What I found particularly interesting was your double vote on TH on day three. Now that we know TH was poisoned on night one by a Cabal member it really just makes my theory about you being linked to a Cabal member stronger. By day three those two votes would have actually been worth 2 or 3 points each if I'm understanding the poisoning role correctly. And look... SVS voted for TH on day 8 when the poison counter should have been up to at least 8, he would have died that day if he hadn't been cured somehow.

Oh damn I did. I almost lynched Turnip Head all by myself.

And what, pray tell, would have been wrong with lynching Turnip? Is he a civilian?

Golden wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sorsha has voted for an awful lot of civilians lately.
I was going to say the same thing about Golden.
I think I have voted for everyone who has been lynched.

Not quite true - I voted for you one day when you weren't, and I voted Juliet on the Canuck day, but juliet did have more votes, and was actually bad.

I haven't evaluated 'who has been lynching the civilians', but I'm willing to bet your name is right there on the list. Didn't you also vote both Matt and Bass?

I didn't vote Wilgy... although I did start the suspicion on him, but I also advocated holding off another day on the day he was lynched. Those who know me well in this game, might have given some thought as to why that was. That's a good point, actually. I might need to go back and see who ignored that advice on Wilgy.

Let me point out... NOONE has successfully lynched a circle yet, although I am trying hard.

I've never voted for Bass. I've voted for, or tried voting for timmer the past few days.

When timmer was not on the poll, I did vote for Matt once (when Bass edged him) and Dom once.

I found Matt's quest believable, which is why I didn't vote him yesterday.

Dom wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dom wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sorsha has voted for an awful lot of civilians lately.
This is awfully convenient.
What is this?
If we go with Floyd being the last baddie lynched (and I don't think he was actually bad at this point), then we haven't lynched a baddie in 4 Days. Everyone's been voting for an awful lot of civilians lately-- what's your point?

Not quite.

But the only day that a civilian didn't actually win the poll was when timmer (currently unknown alignment) should have been lynched the other day, in which case Sorsha's vote was on Bass, a civ.

The other days, Sorsha voted on the DrWilgy wagon, the Bass wagon, and the Matt wagon, all civs.

I was under the belief that Sorsha was on a civilian power bloc. But now, I have a very hard time believing that Sorsha is who I thought she was.

Dom wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sorsha has voted for an awful lot of civilians lately.
This is awfully convenient.

What is this?

Golden, how much do you trust Sorsha, and why?

Sorsha has voted for an awful lot of civilians lately.

Never mind, I doubt all of these roles are still alive.

Linki: You are correct.

I voted Master Thief.

The big question here is: are all of these roles still alive? Is that why they are on the poll?

Votes are changeable in this poll.

Well there you go.

I believed in you Matt.

Matt wrote:Ah I'm not really voting myself. That was just for funsies.

I'm voting Dom

Oh, and at this point, I've said all I can about Dom really. He tried to say he didn't send me to fetch the Gem, then backtracked. He knows my role yet insists on lynching me. I mean, once everyone else sees my role, if I'm lynched, I hope you take the time to consider how utterly preposterous it is to think I'm bad.

Linki - MM, I"d rather you not vote me, but rest assured, if you do nothing bad will happen. With the exception of my fair quest being put to an end.

Quests are expensive in Finland.

I'm afraid to vote Matt.

Dom wrote:Matt also thinks becuse his "quest was doomed" means I am not civvie?? Like??? What???

If you are a civvie, maybe his quest would be fulfilled... by someone else.

In that case, would he be "doomed" and would "dark times" be ahead?

Draconus wrote:I'm really bummed that Timmer isn't on the poll... I'm even more bummed that I didn't get my self-vote option

That should always be an option!!

I'm sure you fall in the "other nice folk category".

Draconus wrote:
Long Con wrote:Timmer has been removed from the poll!
Did the poll appear before or after people started voting in thread? If after, then 2 days in a row someone has voted Timmer before the poll showed up (myself being one of the first ones). This could just be a coincidence, but let's refrain from doing this going forward.

Yes, I most definitely voted for timmer last night while he was on the poll.

Dom wrote:
Golden wrote:
Golden wrote:Matt - in respect of your grand quest - do the words 'avatar of maligna' mean anything to you?
Matt ^^
Don't trust him.

He knows things he should not know unless he's lied about who he's talked to.
He is lying about things.

Of course you don't want to trust him. :P

DOM

I don't have any shenanigans. I remember what happened last time.

I will vote timmer.

Hosts: if a player's name is not on the lynch poll, can they still be lynched via shenanigans?

Matt wrote:MM - Why did you vote for me?

Also, Golden, looking over my post to you, to avoid confusion, I meant "add one other to that list", not "two". Derp.

Because you voted for me many times.

Sorsha wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Sorsha wrote:I only voted for MM because I thought I'd be able to add my other votes later. I'd have also voted for svs and probably TH and Timmer.
Thanks for the vote. I don't understand your sudden distrust in me.
I'm sorry but knowing what I know..... I wish there was a way for you to win with the civs.

How painfully obscure.

Voted.

Sorsha wrote:I only voted for MM because I thought I'd be able to add my other votes later. I'd have also voted for svs and probably TH and Timmer.

Thanks for the vote. I don't understand your sudden distrust in me.

Hi Matt.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
timmer wrote:Golden, I don't have time for a lot of detail here, but I think I can say that you have hit on some truth but are misguided about some things as well. I am not a fan of info dumping but will say that I have come into contact with an item that was not actually what it said it was and there have been consequences. I've tried to help the cause and ultimately it seems have caused more trouble than anything.
timmer, I don't believe you wert this statement. I don't think you could use a dagger on another player without knowledge of what it could do (if I'm reading the accusation correctly against you from Golden). You did not post in the thread leading up to the start of Day 6. Epignosis was killed 2 hours after Day 6 started. You did not post during this time either, and didn't post again until 12 hours after Epignosis's death.

I think the timing of Epignosis's death, along with Golden's accusations against you imply a malevolent intent. You had a questionable item in your hands that you used on Epignosis. Did you bother to ask him if he'd mind you testing an item on him?

Golden, what do you think about the timing of everything, as I mentioned here?

LoRab wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dom wrote:I think I can trust LoRab and think you are very wrong about her.
I do not trust Matt F because he clearly has no idea what he's talking about.
Timmer? I could see. I'm more inclined to think Bass or FS are bad.
I think we should lync timmer, then LoRab, then you.
I agree about timmer.

Why do you suspect me? Have you even mentioned me before this?

No, I just decided to say the names of the people Dom didn't mention wanting to lynch. :P

Dom wrote:I think I can trust LoRab and think you are very wrong about her.
I do not trust Matt F because he clearly has no idea what he's talking about.
Timmer? I could see. I'm more inclined to think Bass or FS are bad.

I think we should lync timmer, then LoRab, then you.

Matt F wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'll do it tomorrow. I'm already past my bedtime.

But if I don't get back to you, I give you permission to vote for me. :P
Haha.

Alright, so Turnip voted Juliets on the day she escaped death and death scooped up Canuckle instead. But since juliets did escape that lynch, it's reasonable to assume her teamies knew she would escape it, hence Turnip's vote. Also, Turnip was the last to vote for her.

Turnip was "out of town" the second time juliets was lynched and didn't vote at all. Then, on the third day, when juliets and her team had to know she was going to get voted out, Turnip votes her again.

At one point, Turnip points out that Floyd and Luke are RL friends, and he really doesn't think it's likely that Floyd is also a baddie on Witherdeath. But as we all know, Floyd was lynched and Turnip was "mistaken".

Going over the polls, Turnip actually votes juliets like, 10th, on the day she was actually lynched. I believed he was "dead" on the day Luke was lynched. That's really too bad considering that info would be useful right about now. And on the Floyd lynch, I have no idea. It wasn't in the polls section. What up with that? Though I do know, as I said above, he mentioned how unlikely he thought it would be that RL friends would be on a team together.

Anyway, sorry, I completely flipped a NO U on Turnip, but to be fair, I've been sussing him for many days now. I find it odd how he accused me of killing Dom and didn't tell me why.

As for Dom...

I couldn't find the post about MM. I think now that Golden said that to me.

Anyway, here is the post where Turnip thinks juliets is genuine...

OH.

Fuck. He was talkin' about Canuckle.

I don't know wtf is goin' on.

Night peeps. Haha. (don't lynch me I'm good I swear)

I've messed up like that before. :P

People are pretty forgiving on this site though luckily, unless you keep nightkilling them on Night 1.

I'll do it tomorrow. I'm already past my bedtime.

But if I don't get back to you, I give you permission to vote for me. :P

Matt F wrote:You make me nervous dude.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:But what civ would take it upon him/herself to find the gem, find the statue, and recruit the statue to the civ side? (Assuming that's how the role works)

I don't mean to be pessimistic, I just think it's more likely that a baddie would try to take the gem than a civilian. That Statue-Man definitely shouldn't be a lynch priority, but it's something to keep in mind down the road.

Are you a member of mafia Matt F?

Long Con wrote:
LoRab wrote:My darling hosts:

And would love other's input on this, because it could just be me. But Thursday is US Thanksgiving. For a lot of us, that means a stressful day full of family, limited chances to get away to check mafia, added stress, and way too much food. Not to mention the copious amounts of wine. Could we consider extending this lynch and adding an extra day? That would also give us all something to do on Friday instead of supporting huge corporate masses who make employees get to work in the middle of the night for door breaker sales. So...it makes the world a better place.

I'm fine either way. But wanted to throw it out there.
All right, if I do this, then changing the poll length may erase the votes. I think that's not so catastrophic. Let me hear some opinions on this.

Adding time to the poll should not erase votes from the poll.

I'm fine with this happening though.

timmer

Votes are changeable in this poll.

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