The Syndicate

Sorsha wrote:
Matt wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Also Matt, I have mentioned you once all game, and that was commenting on your Day 1 case against me.

I don't understand how you've reached the conclusion that I've been talking about you and want to lynch you today.
Hmmm.

The evil eye smiley was an indicator that you were trying to set me up, but if you're being honest about that being an accident...

What do you think of Sorsha? I'm not calling you bad for this, btw, but...

Do you really think that Sorsha "noticed the same thing" I did about your "which team" comment, but decided it was not enough to pursue you on Day one?

I truly believe Sorsha was being opportunistic going after me, especially after bea started talking about my "quietness". I'm pretty sure Sorsha and her team got me lynched in AWR, also for not being "confrontational" enough or whatever. I remember people talking about that silly items list and how "Oh Matt would've brought up the Obsidian Dagger waaaaaay before if he were good".

Anyway, thoughts on Sorsha?
I really don't think that someone assuming that there are 2 baddie teams in a 30 player game is very suspicious lol so no... That's not something I would pursue someone on.

Me "pursuing" you (and Dom) today has 100% to do with the fact that you both came into the thread today asking specific people their thoughts on me specifically and I want to know why. Because to ME it sounds like the two of you have been discussing me in btsc.

I asked both of you about this an neither of you have answered me either.

I wasn't even assuming it, I was pretending to assume it.

FZ. wrote:Sorry for being absent most of the day. Will probably be so tomorrow as well.

MM, I have to say, my thoughts coming into this day were that you were bad. The fact that BR is dead doesn't help you :P You've been acting very similar to Pikmin. I don't see enough involvement from you, and you are skating by. Your recent posts make me doubt that, but I think you should start naming your suspects and giving really good reasons for them, because this just feels like how you voted for Epi in Pikmin mafia every day.

Just because BR was nightkilled in a mafia game doesn't mean I am bad. :P

Ricochet wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Voting for Metalmarsh89.

You just achieved your win con or something, didn't you?

I wish, lol.

No, he seemed so keen on me being bad, I applauded his taking action to vote for me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Voting for Metalmarsh89.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why did you come to this conclusion 5 days later?
I said I hadn't noticed the content when it was new. Why does that matter anyway?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:If you are civilian, you don't know the answer to that question. Thus, my asking such a specific, seemingly informed question should have looked suspicious. I asked that question on Night 0 for two reasons. 1) Only Ricochet would understand. 2) To garner discussion and look at reactions.

Why does my response on Day 2 suddenly look like a load of crock when it was a perfectly acceptable answer, by your standards, when I first asked it?
I didn't call this response "perfectly acceptable" at any point. I never even discussed it.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Your accusations of me are somewhat convenient. You've gone back on your own previous statements at a time when there has been some interest in lynching me.
I don't care whether it looks convenient. If I'm dead today then I'm dead. I have to leave decent content behind to help those alive finish this game off without me. You're suspicious.

Oops, mistake on my part for which response you liked from me.

Linki: I have 0 thoughts on Sorsha to be honest. I think this is the first recent game I've played with her that she hasn't called me bad, but that's all I've noticed.

Also Matt, I have mentioned you once all game, and that was commenting on your Day 1 case against me.

I don't understand how you've reached the conclusion that I've been talking about you and want to lynch you today.

Ricochet wrote:One thing JJJ's recap reminded me is that MM called zebra confirmed town several times.

Explain yourself, MM.

I already did.

Matt wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Matt wrote:RIH LLama.

FZ - I was thinking that you were most likely Golden's Monopoly play buddy. But if that were true, then why the never ending defense of 3J? I don't think I've played with a civ LC since I came back for Mafia, but he seems pretty legit to me in this game. I think it's odd that he's simply asking people to talk about his case, and now people are calling him bad.

bea - Do you believe Sorsha/BR to be good this game?

Voting for Dolphin Army
Boom diggity.
Sweet. So MM, you and Sorsha decided today was the day to go all in on me, huh?

Believe it or not Matt, that evil eye smiley should not have been in this post. I was posting from my phone, and must have inadvertently pressed that.

In case you didn't notice, I also voted Dolphin Army, which was the reason I responded to your post as such.

juliets wrote:I had planned on voting Metalmarsh today unless something conclusive happened to someone else. I don't feel he's added anything to the game and that "which" question still dances in the back of my mind even though Metalmarsh explained his viewpoint. I won't vote today, I like to wait until closer to the end so I can assess everything that's happened in the phase.

You should have just lynched me when I asked the question.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I never noticed this before. It's a huge crock.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
juliets wrote:Metalmarsh here is the question I asked you. Note that I am not asking the same questions you already answered. I'm wanting to know what was in your head when you picked the word "which" when you framed the question.

juliets wrote:MM, your question to him was "which team do you think he is on?". That sounds like you not only know there are two teams (i know you responded to this already) but that you knew what the team names were. What made you use the word "which"? And what did you expect in return from JJJ that would be an example of "which"? I hope you understand what I am asking. If not, let me know.
Sorry I never responded juliets. I've been playing much of this game so far on my phone, and just must be missing posts.

Anyway, to answer your questions.
1) I have no idea how many teams there are. That was an intentional "slip" to see how folks responded.
2) I did not know that the mafia team(s) have names. Your suggestion of that is very suspicious imo. I did not imply that I knew it either.
3) I expected Jay to be far more aggressive in his response, since the number of mafia teams is unknown, and I implied that I knew how many there were. Then again, Jay was acting apathetic before I asked the question, so I don't know what to make of it. Different Jay =/= mafia Jay.
And to add, Matt did propose the same case that you did, that I slipped, and must be mafia. But he took a pretty hesitant approach to it. The Matt I remember from Talking Heads would have dogged me all day and all game over something like that.

Juliets, where did you get the idea that the mafia team(s) have names?
Marsh, you asked me which team I thought llama was on. How in the world would that provoke an "aggressive" response from me? Why would you ever have any reason to expect that? This reads to me like a complete b/s excuse for asking a filler question that drew a lot of suspicion to you.

You're bad.

Why did you come to this conclusion 5 days later?

If you are civilian, you don't know the answer to that question. Thus, my asking such a specific, seemingly informed question should have looked suspicious. I asked that question on Night 0 for two reasons. 1) Only Ricochet would understand. 2) To garner discussion and look at reactions.

Why does my response on Day 2 suddenly look like a load of crock when it was a perfectly acceptable answer, by your standards, when I first asked it?

Your accusations of me are somewhat convenient. You've gone back on your own previous statements at a time when there has been some interest in lynching me.

Linki: What? I'm going all in?

bea wrote:LC, JJ, You, Marshy - are all completely capable of snowing me and with the exception of JJ have. At least once. I lean civ on you and jj - I'm not sure about lc and marshy at all. That's my preconcieved notions at play though more than anything.

Do you want to build a snowman?

MacDougall wrote:RIP Black Rock. That role sounds super fun.

That result strongly indicates that we've ridded ourselves of those responsible for the additional two kills each night which is a positive.

Matt wrote:RIH LLama.

FZ - I was thinking that you were most likely Golden's Monopoly play buddy. But if that were true, then why the never ending defense of 3J? I don't think I've played with a civ LC since I came back for Mafia, but he seems pretty legit to me in this game. I think it's odd that he's simply asking people to talk about his case, and now people are calling him bad.

bea - Do you believe Sorsha/BR to be good this game?

Voting for Dolphin Army

Boom diggity.

MacDougall wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm the new King of Fuck Mountain. I broke the tie between llama and Tranq.
No you are The Fuck of King Mountain.

I'm satisfied either way, since marmots dwell on mountains.

I'm the new King of Fuck Mountain. I broke the tie between llama and Tranq.

thellama73 wrote:People, ask yourselves if all this eleventh hour switching to me really feels like a civ thing that is happening.

I don't understand the phrase "legacy suspects."

My vote was placed in the 10th hour, thank you very much.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think we made the best decision I was able to come up with. That's all we can ask for in any lynch.
omg lol this is the most arrogant thing I have ever said. I'm sorry. Bad wording.

The marmot abides.

DrWilgy wrote:Wilgy has caught up, but he hasn't done any deep reading other than reviewing LoRab
LoRab wrote:So, I may or may not have written this last night and then forgot to hit submit.

Looking at the night post, unless there was a redirect, it seems more than likely that there is more than 1 baddie team (the slight possibility of a redirect or some such allowing for a mafia team to kill its own), which I think warrants noting. Need to go back and read zebra's posts to see if there are any connections there. In all my lack of free time this weekend. I may need to do it Monday.
I don't know if anyone has spoken about this right here, but I'm thinking that there's only one baddie team. It seems odd that LoRab would mention a redirect if it wasn't the case. Also, I'm kinda reading it like this: "Yeah there's two teams, so anyone's suspect... most likely...

I think JJJ is civ, and actually Llama too. Looking at LoRab's 2nd to last post makes me think that they aren't on the same team. I don't think scum would throw their buddies name out like that when they are on the lynching block. Especially since LoRab seems to be the type to defend teammates.

I'm going to place a vote for Dom.

Ricochet wrote:
juliets wrote:Did anyone notice MM is not on the poll?
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Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hey guys, don't lynch me please. K thanks.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Because you and I are in the same boat today Rico, except I can vote.
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goddamn marmot
My sides are hurting

Linki - Mac, why aren't you trying to get me to stop lurking? My signature is your response to my lurking. It's odd. Also, Mac, what did you mean by that knight gif you responded to me with?

Linki - When did Llama get 9 votes?

Because as a wise old JimmyJay once said, "Fuck ties".

FZ. wrote:Dom, possibly :P The only game prior to Pikmin, that I was mafia in, it was MP, you and I. MP kind of screwed it for me and him and you remained on your own. I followed the game to see how you were doing. You were asking tons of questions. More than regular sentences probably. I keep looking for that ever since. I don't know if this is the case here, but that's why when you start asking questions, I get worried. Maybe it's something you do no matter the alignment, but that game, it was very easy to notice.

JJJ, I think I've seen llama vote for the other contender many times, in order to save himself. Not sure if he does it more when a civ or a baddie though. It's interesting he didn't go that rout, though I guess it wasn't a "save myself" situation yet.

I feel like we're going in circles. On the surface level, you're right. llama is acting more like the classic mafia. If he's mafia, I'll be disappointed in him. I'm willing to vote him, because it doesn't look like it's going Dom's way, and I don't want to vote either Tranq or DH at this point.

[url=http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... 6&sr=posts]Here's a recent example of baddie Dom (note that he was a civ, recruited to the baddies on Night 1).

MacDougall wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I never said I was going to change my vote. Tranq is my vote. I am not changing my vote. Everyone else should also vote for Tranq.
Your vote is weak sauce.
Tranq hasn't really given me much of an option to build a case on him. I am lynching him because he has literally put in no effort to assist the civilians other than offer Ricochet his vote which he could just refuse to do if Rico chooses a scum partner. Defending his behaviour is annoying.

So it's Tranq's fault your vote is weak.

Come on Mac, you gotta take responsibility for your actions.

juliets wrote:Metalmarsh why did you vote DH?

To tease Ricochet. :P

I suppose llama could be bad though.

Linki: atta boy Macbaddie, the real Macbaddie (I'm just imitating the real Macbaddie).

Ricochet wrote:Fark me, it's going to be a three-way tie, isn't it?

llama

DharmaHelper

Ricochet wrote:

My notebook says to ask Ricochet for help.

Ricochet wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote: Well you know, if you looked at the poll once in a while.
I have no reason to, until someone votes and I have to track it. Y'kno, never being on it and such.

Tell me who I should vote for confirmed Papryco man!

Ricochet wrote:
juliets wrote:Did anyone notice MM is not on the poll?
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Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hey guys, don't lynch me please. K thanks.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Because you and I are in the same boat today Rico, except I can vote.
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goddamn marmot

Well you know, if you looked at the poll once in a while.

The feeling of not being able to be lynched today fills me with hope. I will stay determined.

FZ. wrote:I went back and looked at nijuu's post before her vote for Lorab, which supposedly made her look better.

nijuukyugou wrote:Okay, I have to finish these cookies and get myself outta here, and I've still got like four pages to read. Ugh. Thems the breaks, I guess.

Votes are a lot more spread out this round, which I suppose is good? Makes me less wary. During my read (and really, thinking about the no-lynch situation), I keep flip-flopping on JJJ. On the one hand, he appears as a frustrated civ who's half-given up. At the same time, he kept popping in to make points and (despite what he said upon his return) to defend himself. I'm torn because I don't like to let myself be swindled by tone, but at the same time, the tone's been consistent, and I was doubtful about that in particular yesterday. Ugh. Ugh, I say.

Well, I gotta make a decision, and I do like to make things *interesting*, especially with changeable votes being a factor. Lorab's fallen off the radar more than last phase, so let's give her a vote and see what happens when these votes get a bit closer.
The underlined could have been a set up for a change of vote later on. She voted for JJJ the previous day when it was between the two. She said she was going back and forth on JJJ. Possibly a set up for later as well. In addition, this was before all the tie shit started happening. I'm not even sure how many votes JJJ had at that point, but he had at least 5. Does anyone remember if he had more votes at different stages of the vote?

In any case, Nijuu is definitely not a strong civ read as one would expect after that vote.

DH, what is your point?

Since nijuu never did switch her vote, I think this would be more believable if nijuu knew she didn't have to switch because someone else did.

But that would point at Dr. Wilgy being a baddie.

Ricochet wrote:The real options are

Position 1

Position 2

Position 3

Position 4

DHPLS

linki: what's your favourite fruit, MM? Answer carefully.

Squash.

Ricochet wrote:MM, tell me why you keep voting JJJ, first thing every Day, or I can't help you.

I have a gut feeling that he's mafia.

I also like seeing the poll and voting early.

Get off my boat dammit.

Because you and I are in the same boat today Rico, except I can vote.

Hey guys, don't lynch me please. K thanks.

Epignosis wrote:My limited experience with Lorab as bad is that she would far prefer to be saved than done in by her own team.

My limited experience playing with Long Con is that he is always a baddie.

Ricochet wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Rico, are you going to break my posting record already?
Dunno. I might get night killed before achieving that...

...

...mwahahahahaha!!

But seriously, the only true course of prevention would probably be a mixture of catching the baddies and the baddies shooting each other in the foot during the next, saaay, 6 cycles.

Or if you broke everything in your house (except your piano).

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:You better kill me tonight baddies because I'm hella motivated now.

Are you talking to me?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Golden wrote:In a scenario where the whole thread is saying 'first person to blink is scum'... I think not.

I had my eyes closed.

HamburgerBoy wrote:Oh, I just remembered that during Frisky Dingo, niju made a last-minute tie vote that ended up lynching a scum "by chance". Or at least I think that's how it went down, too lazy to check right now.

I remember that game. I was lynched on Day 1 with 3 measly votes.

Linki: Good show wut.

2 smashcoins says all four of us are lynched.

HamburgerBoy wrote:Does it bother anyone else that Epi seems to be reading the thread a lot but not posting?

666.

Not really. I know he always leaves a mafia tab open while he's away. I often do the same thing.

MacDougall wrote:
HamburgerBoy wrote:
Golden wrote:I don't believe it. We actually went to a four way tie.

Officially the stupidest lynch I have ever seen.

I'm actually with fz. Considering asking for a replacement. Are the civs even trying to win? I feel alone.
I don't get it, what's wrong with a four way tie? For you, someone basically convinced of the towniness of two of the players, I could understand it, but as a general principle what is wrong with it?
Golden is obviously stressed out to the max that he had to vote to save one of his teammates and then Wilgy went and fucked it all up for him and made him double anxious. Golden is bad.

Which one is his teamie?

FZ. wrote:I hope I die. I'm sick of this game.

DrWilgy wrote:I'm feeling my life spiral out of control

I swapped to MM to break the tie... I figured as long as it wasn't JJJ or FZ.

I don't care, I've never seen anything like this, and am glad to be a part of it.

This is awesome!!!

Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Golden wrote:
HamburgerBoy wrote:
Golden wrote:This is ridiculous. The fz bandwagon is as contrived as the jay one. So many people seeing her as a top town read.
I'm certainly not.
No, but don't you think people, generally speaking, should take on board the opinion of others?

Is vote jj ahead of voting fz.
You sound scared. This is funny.
Not scared. I just feel helpless to be understand a town that seems to want to lynch townies.

You sound like mafia to me.

Break dat tie Ricochet.

FZ. wrote:I'm back. MM, are you a baddie who's tired of being bad so many times in the last few games?

linki: Some people are just smarter than you, Rico

No I'm not. I've lacked some motivation (and time) lately to play mafia, but not because I am mafia.

Linki:

Golden wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Golden wrote:re whoever is wondering why lots of people voted lorab yesterday but not today...

It's because yesterday, lots of us were finding a consensus candidate to save jj.

I'll vote lorab to the same end of it comes to it, but I think mm is a good bet. He really is playing like dune mm.

Ok, describe in two sentences what Dune MM played like.
I'll do it in one. Absent of useful contribution.

BUZZ.

No, Dune MM attempted to protect his mafia partners, only to do a terrible job and expose them.

FZ, what question?

What a delicious lynch.

Golden wrote:re whoever is wondering why lots of people voted lorab yesterday but not today...

It's because yesterday, lots of us were finding a consensus candidate to save jj.

I'll vote lorab to the same end of it comes to it, but I think mm is a good bet. He really is playing like dune mm.

Ok, describe in two sentences what Dune MM played like.

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