The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Nice, juliets. Here it is for the other winners:



Banners just came down for Romance of the Three Kingdoms too, so winners should check out that thread.

Hooray! Thanks. Been a while since I've put a banner in my signature.

Made wrote:Great game all. The reason I was quite blendy this game is because I always feel weird when playing as mafia. Like, I over think everything when I'm bad and it makes it hard to get much of anything into thread. Regardless had a ton of fun, especially towards the end!

S/O to anchor baddie Sorsha. May we all one day ride her glorious busses to victory.

I bussed Sorsha once. Then I turned around and killed me other teammate the ensuing night. It was great!

My record is now an astonishing 3-0 in Mongoose-hosted games. Keep 'em coming!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Quin wrote:I was an embarrassment in this game. I am sorry.

Please take this as a sign that for the next five or six games, you should consider believing the opposite of each and every one of my reads.

You're welcome for removing you from the lynchpoll. :P

That was probably the best thing that could have happened to us. We stumbled onto a Wilgy lynch, and Boooooosh (and/or kakow).

That and removing llama from the Day 2 lynchpoll.

Maybe I'll continue that strategy from now on. Rather then remove players I trusted, I removed players I found to be polarizing topics of discussion. That led the game in other directions, which I think proved beneficial.

Also, I had planned on removing Sockface from the poll for Day 3 so that he couldn't self-vote. :P But he subbed out of the game that night, so I removed Quin instead.

Epignosis wrote:I think Made did a great job being bad and he should know it.

I concur whole-heartedly. Well-played Made.

Quin wrote:I was an embarrassment in this game. I am sorry.

Please take this as a sign that for the next five or six games, you should consider believing the opposite of each and every one of my reads.

You're welcome for removing you from the lynchpoll. :P

That was probably the best thing that could have happened to us. We stumbled onto a Wilgy lynch, and Boooooosh (and/or kakow).


Thanks for the game Mongoose! I had a blast despite not living very long. But I was soo wrong about Made and Sorsha, it may have been for the best I was killed when I was.

Epignosis wrote:

Made wrote:Linki: I have. In monopoly where I was killed night one because I some how slipped I was bad, and in a heist a few weeks back.

Spoiler: show

Made wrote:ok, I don't see a way for civvies to win this game, as civvie anyways. At all. Basically, who ever can get their partners together as a group first, without revealing they are a group, seems to have the best chance at winning.

Boo wrote:A set that has (at any point) all living players together will cease to be considered a civvie set, and become a LMSing group.

Does this mean that if a person of my set dies, but i have BTSC with all other 3 member, would i be considered part of a LMS group?

Are their any incentives to work together?

Good times.

My favorite moment was when Golden slipped in Gentlemen's Guide to Mafia.

This comes in second. :P Monopoly was hard, I agree.

Also

nijuukyugou wrote:
I hate everything Except Mongoose

Marmots are cool too k

Mongoose wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sooooo, about that rezz.

I'll be handing out 16 of them soon, just hold tight.

[Deathless World of Mongoose]

Could I get a cup of coffee while I'm waiting?

I imagine the Deathless World of Mongoose has coffee (or tea).

Mongoose wrote:Super Serial Announcement

Guys, I totally confused myself. I need to make the next DAY cycle 48 hours because I will be visiting my grandparents who live in the forest, free of the WiFis.

I'll be in the car by 9pm EST, so please have your night actions to me by 8pm EST. Vote in the location poll by then too.

Spoiler: show

For Clarity: Night Cycle will end at 8pm EST.

You could just rezz me, and I'll take care of the night post for you.

thellama73 wrote:Mongoose tends to not like people dying in her games. It's not impossible.

Mongoose wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:The poll ended in a tie, so we get no night post.

And no nightkill!

Uhhh....

Here's a felted marmot.

Thanks Mongoose!

Thanks for the game too! What a pleasure it's been to finally play one of your games again. I love your new avatar too.

Long Con wrote:The poll ended in a tie, so we get no night post.

And no nightkill!

I could see Epignosis being the Jean Genie, especially with this post.

Jean Genie wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Hello all, huge apologies to our wonderful host and you all for my absence so far. I just finished my very busy conference and arrived at MCO, but I have a tight schedule before takeoff. I will be catching up either later tonight during my layover in ATL or tomorrow.

Cor blimey, it's about time you turned up! I was about to have yer bangers for breakfast otherwise. Now make with the postin'!

Jean Genie wrote:So, ya think ya got the game solved do ya, wrapped up in a nice little bow, hmm? Well, don't be too sure, boyo. Why, I've seen sacks full o' hammers smarter than you, I...er... no actually, I say, you're doing rather well. Keep it up. Stiff upper lip and all that rot, wot? Cheerio.

I hear you has info.

thellama73 wrote:Top contenders for a Day 4 lynch based solely on voting record: Elohcin 2.0, insertnamehere, JJJ, Long Con, Quin, Spacedaisy. I think the two remaining baddies are hiding in this bunch.

I would be much obliged if everyone could give me their reads of these six players. Personally, I feel less inclined to vote Long Con or JJJ, the one because he sounds genuine, and the other because the two consecutive wagons on him make me nervous. Quin and INH seem like obvious choices, but there may be a third silent baddie hiding in Eloh or Daisy.

You can find mine in my rainbow list, so I won't bother repeating them.

I hope others will offer some input, because your 6 player list matches up with mine.

insertnamehere wrote:I will say that the last second flood of Wilgy votes once it was clear 3J ain't going nowhere rustles my jimmies a little bit. Couple of folks really wanted some credit, methinks.

Which votes in particular stood out to you?

Well after that lynch... Here are my thoughts on players based on votes (today and previously).

Boomslang: voted for both baddies lynched so far and survived a nightkill. Looks great to me.
Epignosis: made a solid Day 1 vote, but threw his vote away today. But similar to Elohcin, his vote wouldn't have made much of a difference anyway. I still think he's a civilian.
nijuukyugou: Pristine voting record. I don't remember much else about her, but she's a keeper.
Sorsha: similar to everyone else in the blue group, solid voting record, and making contributions to this game that I have not seen from baddie Sorsha.

Scotty: I wanted to think he was bad, but he's put a genuine effort in this game, and made a timely vote on the Wilgy wagon.
thellama73: I was gradually feeling worse about this guy during Day 3, but I feel better about him now. Timely vote for Wilgy, but there's room for improvement from this cat.

Elohcin: she doesn't look much different to me. Her vote was on Wilgy, but it came late (like in the last minute late) when Wilgy was probably sealed up, so the jury's still out on her.
Long Con: his voting record is relatively abysmal, but this guy has hunted in a way I have a hard time associating with his baddie play. I'll give Jay's case a look, but a bad voting record a baddie does not make.
Made: Been pretty much non-existent to this point, but did vote for Wilgy, a slight good look. I won't more from him before I decided.
Spacedaisy: A self-vote and two missed votes. Need more data.

insertnamehere: he didn't vote on either of the baddie wagons yet. That's not a good look. I don't have good feels on him, so he's worth a solid look in the future.

JaggedJimmyJay: entertained the DrWilgy vote, but eventually placed a vote on Made. Part of me thinks he hoped to get a wagon started there instead of on Wilgy. I still think this guy is bad news.
Quin: this guy has done everything but admit he's mafia. I'm happy to be convinced otherwise, but his name was off the poll today, and I was hoping to feel better about him since he had the chance to play another day. I don't.

My spreadsheet is beautiful!

DrWilgy

Linki: woot!

Who's gonna get the last vote?

thellama73 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Possibly, but there are too (2) other low posters I'd rather go after first.

Why do I get the feeling you and Made are teammates and you're transparently pursuing other low-posters so to not get him lynched?

Dunno. Why do you get any feelings?


@Made, yes we know that.

I dunno man, I just work here.

Made wrote:Do we know ties=no lynch?

Si.

thellama73 wrote:Possibly, but there are too (2) other low posters I'd rather go after first.

Why do I get the feeling you and Made are teammates and you're transparently pursuing other low-posters so to not get him lynched?

Quin wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I'll most likely be voting for jjj also today. I'd hate to see a no lynch but I'm going to hope that he's lying about either his prize or what happens.

If Wilgy is the second most vote recipient that would be good I think. Hopefully if jay does have immunity it'll just go to the next highest and I've got no reason to believe Wilgy is civ.

Why don't you just vote Wilgy today and Jay tomorrow then? Why risk an actual no lynch happening?

Ok.

I don't mean to tell you what to do. I just think that mislynches are generally more useful than no lynches.

Me too. I'd have preferred a llama or Boomslang wagon. But I don't suspect Wilgy, so a no lynch it is.

Linki: I'm no llama.

Linki:...

insertnamehere wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I'll most likely be voting for jjj also today. I'd hate to see a no lynch but I'm going to hope that he's lying about either his prize or what happens.

If Wilgy is the second most vote recipient that would be good I think. Hopefully if jay does have immunity it'll just go to the next highest and I've got no reason to believe Wilgy is civ.

Why don't you just vote Wilgy today and Jay tomorrow then? Why risk an actual no lynch happening?

Ok.

I dislike both parts of this interaction.

Ok.

Sorsha wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I'll most likely be voting for jjj also today. I'd hate to see a no lynch but I'm going to hope that he's lying about either his prize or what happens.

If Wilgy is the second most vote recipient that would be good I think. Hopefully if jay does have immunity it'll just go to the next highest and I've got no reason to believe Wilgy is civ.

Why don't you just vote Wilgy today and Jay tomorrow then? Why risk an actual no lynch happening?

Ok.

I don't mean to tell you what to do. I just think that mislynches are generally more useful than no lynches.

thellama73 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Llama, I'll pull a post from you on Day 1.

thellama73 wrote:While I still think Sorsha is the best bet for today, and there has been a lot of good content from the high posters, I urge you all not to forget about the lurkers. What has Elohcin contributed so far? Where the hell is MP? Blooper and Wilgy seem uncharacteristically quiet. Let's put some pressure on these people and not give them a free pass.

Doesn't Made fall into this category? Why are you not particularly interested in lynching him?

It is no longer Day 1. While Made is by no means someone I want to forget about, he's not near the top of my list today. I want to see how Wilgy flips, and also possibly Eloh. I have more reason to suspect them than I have to suspect Made. Of course, if I'm forced to choose between lynching Made and lynching someone I trust, I'll obviously choose Made.

Aren't low-posters more dangerous as the game goes than they are on than Day 1?

Sorsha wrote:I'll most likely be voting for jjj also today. I'd hate to see a no lynch but I'm going to hope that he's lying about either his prize or what happens.

If Wilgy is the second most vote recipient that would be good I think. Hopefully if jay does have immunity it'll just go to the next highest and I've got no reason to believe Wilgy is civ.

Why don't you just vote Wilgy today and Jay tomorrow then? Why risk an actual no lynch happening?

Llama, I'll pull a post from you on Day 1.

thellama73 wrote:While I still think Sorsha is the best bet for today, and there has been a lot of good content from the high posters, I urge you all not to forget about the lurkers. What has Elohcin contributed so far? Where the hell is MP? Blooper and Wilgy seem uncharacteristically quiet. Let's put some pressure on these people and not give them a free pass.

Doesn't Made fall into this category? Why are you not particularly interested in lynching him?

thellama73 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote: I was more interested in the idea of voting between DrWilgy or Made. Does Jay's change in intent impace which one you'd rather lynch more?

I am not particularly interested in voting Made right now, but I am interested to hear his answer.

His answer to what?

1 hour to deadline. Time for the votes to start pouring in.

thellama73 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I have to leave for the evening. I am going to place my vote on Made.

Stay determined, civilians.

It sounds like you're already gone, but if you're not answer me this:
Earlier you said if you had to vote immediately you would have voted Wilgy. Now you ha e voted Made. What changed for you ebtween those two posts?

Will this notion impact your vote?

Not today, because I still think he's telling the truth about immunity, but I am open to lynching JJJ tomorrow depending on how much I like his answer.

I was more interested in the idea of voting between DrWilgy or Made. Does Jay's change in intent impace which one you'd rather lynch more?

Elohcin, what do you make of this post?

Epignosis wrote:

Mongoose wrote:What's everyone's favorite soda? I like anything with spices or herbs in it along with a fruit flavor, especially citrus. Blood Orange and Sicilian Lemon are two of my faves.

Beer.

And there's about to be hell to pay.

thellama73 wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I have to leave for the evening. I am going to place my vote on Made.

Stay determined, civilians.

It sounds like you're already gone, but if you're not answer me this:
Earlier you said if you had to vote immediately you would have voted Wilgy. Now you ha e voted Made. What changed for you ebtween those two posts?

Will this notion impact your vote?

Who's up for a Made lynch?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I told you exactly what my item is an how I used it. I am not Mr. Gambit. Believe me or don't, but lynching me today will prove to be a waste of everyone's time. I guess the one silver lining is that it'd force everyone to then consider the civilian explanation I have attached to my decision, because it was the dang truth.

Would you a consider a no lynch today a terrible thing?

Yes.

No lynches are shit in 97% of circumstances. The civilians learn nothing or close to nothing.

And we had one yesterday. Double-nothing learned.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Let's talk about Made:

Made wrote:Unless someone can explain any further significance of this argument and LC's response, the interaction feels more like a doubt than an accusation, and that make this argument feel more like one of semantics rather than one of alignment. I'm not really seeing what JJJ's seeing.

Made wrote:I kinda read the original post as tinfoily myself, mostly because Eloh's post didn't seem like a role claim to me.

And having read 16 pages in one sitting, the theory against Quin is kinda lost on me. Is it because of his tinfoil theory??

He made one substantive post, which I've snipped to these pieces. His contribution has been to discount the suspicions presented by other people (my suspicion of Long Con and Elohcin's suspicion of Quin). He was vaguely critical of me here (asserting I was concerned with semantics and not alignment) which lends some support to his eventual decision to vote for me. It's a bit convenient though that his only meaningful post provided him with the rationale necessary to participate in a two-way lynch dynamic between Quin and I.

The highlighted question is a little ick at face value. In his first sentence about Quin, he acknowledged Elohcin's post, and though he didn't think she was roleclaiming this at least evidences that he was aware of that point's existence. So that should tell him that "the case against Quin" consisted of more than just the tinfoil theory.

Also, two question marks. Yikes.

Unless Made is acting the same way Epignosis did in GY!BE, that's any easy pattern to fall into as a baddie. Easy, as in you know who the civilians are and who to defend.

Quin wrote:I intend to vote between llama and Boomslang. Keen to find out who stands where on that front, because it looks like there's gonna be a few wagons at this rate.

I don't think either of those votes are fruitful, fwiw.

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:There is a huge problem with the whole "the mafia team blocked their own kill."

Did the mafia team know that the name of a protected person would show up in the host post? I sure didn't. If they didn't, then why would they even think to try something like that? The host post could have just as easily said, "No one has been killed."

Well, if you can think of that now, then why couldn't they think of that before enacting the plan?

Because hosts these days don't really reveal the target of failed nightkills.

Isn't it more likely that the mafia's kill was blocked or Boomslang was straight up protected than the mafia sacrificing a nightkill attempt after losing a teammate in a lynch?



Furthermore, why Boomslang? Why not another teammate who was actually taking heat?

Never mind Wilgy, I misread your post. I thought you GTH me as bad, but you said Long Con.

EBWOP: predicated on Jay's alignment, not mine.