The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:27 pm I can buy I misunderstood what Wilgy said. Not like...believing that's what happened 100% but there's no world where Scotty didn't make up a list because he's just a wolf.

You are an icaco

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:49 pm Wilgy didn't get the result "Plum" and Scotty didn't pick "Kumquat" off a list is what I'm saying. They both saw other players throwing out fruits and tried to fake that they had gotten the same message that some townies got. There's no reason to fake that as a townie so they're both just wolves.

This is what I saw too

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Don't worry, I'll make it painless.

I prefer mandarins tbh

Nanook is cleared

I don't think andre even saw Scotty's case based on their posting.

But my Day 1 was very townie for anyone who needs convincing, especially with hk flipping wolf

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:25 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:34 pm Why is one of my top town reads voting for me?
Sorry, this was directed at @Marmot if that wasn’t clear

I saw NAA voted there and it sounded fun

I don't have a reason though, but I'll be in the thread later tonight once I'm home and have my laptop

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:27 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:56 am Anyways mac and axe are both town, if HK is mafia then no more than one mafia in Moonwink, Marmot, DaughterOfOmega, srceenplay, Creature, MartinGG99

If HK is town probably multiple mafia in that group, so let's flip HK
good post in retrospect. i'd vote martin first then...i townread everyone heavily. maybe marmot.

@Moonwink why is martin confirmed TOWN to you--are you 100% sure? idgi.

?

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:12 am Sadly I doubt I'll have any more time for this game. So gl you all.

Like we won't see you post again all game sort of no time? Or just day 3?

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:48 am MacDougall from dead chat: how does it feel being wrong about me? ;p

My top townread and my top scumread both flipped as I expected, so this is promising.

I don't know why you scumread Mac aside from omgus, but it might not be useful to ask now.

This game just became a meme

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:44 am Just saying, you can thank me for the HK death

Thank you.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 10:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:33 am so HK you nearly died but didn't... penny for ur thoughts
I'm threadspewed town baby

Nice

Also dunya, we have no deaths thus far. This is basically Mountain Mafia II

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:49 am Poll runs till Sun Feb 27, 2022 5:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

Hmmm seems like we're still working in the same deadline.

Majority yeet is hard, but not impossible. I really feel we should try to get a poe of 4 (even 3 if you prefer) within the first 24 hours and spend the next 24hrs getting majority on one or we are going to go through some yeetless days in the beginning and the yeet is towns greatest weapon so.

I'll get to my Town Do Not Yeet List later followed by who and why I think is a good poe today.

Sorry for briefness, it's a busy work day

1.

Target any player, and choose a whole number between 36 and 48, inclusive. The following day will end after the chosen number of hours. This will not be announced until an hour before your chosen deadline. If there is no majority at deadline, your target's vote will decide the elimination.

That's the ring DOOM mentioned I assume, so we won't actually know the day ends early until T-1 hour

Post cap for real this time

Good luck!

(but also flips are good so let's flip hk)

Ok now I'm just spamming to post cap

2 more votes!

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:57 pm
Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:55 pm Pick one, stick to it, pls. I'm always going to the one with the most votes.

(This is my last post. I can only vote now.)
This is a helpful mindset for mafia ngl

The daykill is one of town's strongest assets, so I don't think it's giving much away for her to say that.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:57 pm shouldnt there be a double voter to somewhere?

Maybe, but I have no idea what's in play on Day 1.

Vanity wagons are ant-town in this setup, even if they are pretty.

Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:55 pm Pick one, stick to it, pls. I'm always going to the one with the most votes.

(This is my last post. I can only vote now.)

Same

We should all vote hk for the flips at this point.

We need 2 more for a maj yes?

I'd also kill NAA. His progression on dunya was basically: nothing, nothing, sheep Mac's scumread, strongly endorse her death.

I thought there was more insight from NAA, but it only popped up when Mac was pushing it.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:48 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:47 pm Hi I'm back, who we eliming?
not a single wagon has reached beyond 6 votes afaik

hollowkatt suddenly has 6.

I have no opinion on srceenplay, but would sheep the masses there. Same with Scotty (I say his name because DOOM nommed him for CFD.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:46 pm Can we make a crazy decision and swap to Scotty?

:hype:

I would vote for that.

I'd also vote for any of the current wagons.

I'd prefer flips over no flips, so I believe it's better to make somewhat unsure votes that result in a flip then to make more certain votes that result in no death.

Hi I'm back, who we eliming?

Spoiler: show

Moonwink scumread rising.

Heading off for dinner, but will be back prob 30 minutes before deadline.

Especially with the way the wagons are panning out currently. I guess we have to rely on players being super scummy and obvious, or mech.

Getting 51% of votes on one player in a game with a 70-postcap is going to be a nightmare. I don't like this mechanic already.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:03 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:59 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:39 pm Doom not having any votes is kinda ???

Dunia voting me is ???

Moonwink probably towny but she'll be obvious at some point

Why would DOOM have votes?
If they're town it's very surprising they don't have some votes tbh

Somewhat surprising if they're mafia too tbh, although less so

But why?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:01 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:16 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:58 pm One of my mafia is on every wagon :o

This is the kind of post that looks really townie imo, because DOOM is focused on her scumreads and what they're doing in the game.

Also, probably a good note for the future if one them does end up flipping scum.
maybe I'm starting to slightly tunnel

but I feel like this is wolf marmot seeing something, as he puts it, "looks really townie imo", and then goes on to explain why it looks really towny

without thinking that maybe we could figure that ourselves if it was so towny

5 of your last 6 posts, dating back over the last 18 hours have been about or directed at me, so yes that does qualify as a tunnel.

I would recommend focusing your attention on more than just me.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:51 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:10 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:38 pm FYI, the later a vote stays on me, the more likely it is to be from a wolf.

There 's more ego in this post than there is intent to find scum. I don't like that.
Why is that like....bad?

I mean if I have the facts straight this is being said at a time where Jack has 3-4 votes, so he's implicating a small number of people here rather than just making a generalization that cannot find scum.

It reads to me like he's threatening to scumread players who don't move their votes off of him pre-emptively.

I guess it could come from town too, that just isn't the vibe I got.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:39 pm Doom not having any votes is kinda ???

Dunia voting me is ???

Moonwink probably towny but she'll be obvious at some point

Why would DOOM have votes?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:45 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:40 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:10 pm Dunya is now trolling me because she is dead to rights outed and nobody cares, as I pointed out would be the case about 24 hours ago.
I think there might be a difference check between you two if that's any consolation
dang ur actually town lol
I'd like that post from him better if someone else didn't already use the term "difference-check" on the last page.

Very mild qualm. Dunya could still be a wolf, but I don't trust my ability to read her.
Yeah cause its such an esoteric term and one I definitely don't use most of the games I play

I don't recall ever seeing it before outside of possibly regarding a parity cop, and I suddenly saw it twice in two pages, so it does stand out to me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:40 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:10 pm Dunya is now trolling me because she is dead to rights outed and nobody cares, as I pointed out would be the case about 24 hours ago.
I think there might be a difference check between you two if that's any consolation
dang ur actually town lol

I'd like that post from him better if someone else didn't already use the term "difference-check" on the last page.

Very mild qualm. Dunya could still be a wolf, but I don't trust my ability to read her.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:38 pm Oh wait this is a majority only lynch.

Yup, I've been offering occasional reminders so we don't accidentally elim no one.

This read might be influenced by gamestate and the amount of suspicion that's already there, but Nanook's "doesn't care attitude" doesn't look like he doesn't care. His posts are short and lack the punch I'm used to seeing from him.

If he goes over and is a hit, NAA can have the credit though.

Nanook-frozen is not a read tho.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:34 pm
osieorb18 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:32 pm Mac feels like he's shading people left and right. Do not like. Would consider a CFD there.
He does it as town for the post game cred of being right. Don't worry about it. The deeper into the game we go the more substantial his scum reads become !

Damn, that is a shot.

Also, because you can't post anymore...

Spoiler: show

HK, can I get your reads on the top wagons. To be specific, we'll call the other top wagons Jack and Nanook.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:32 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:06 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:45 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:17 am
Spoiler: show
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:13 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:49 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:34 pm

wait, I'm doing the harder of the two things and you're voting me for it? or are you voting me b/c I said to scotty idc if he thinks it's lazy
You are entertaining the idea that you are doing the harder and lazy thing?

Calling almost 1/4 of the player group town is over confident and/or scumy to me.
No, YOU said it was the harder of the two things. Scotty said it was Lazy, and I said "I don't care if you think it's lazy, I think it's useful."
How many town reads is too many screenplay? Do you think I'm wrong? Do you think I have TMI? What is it?

Or are you not wanting this many people to be drawing town reads this early b/c that's what I think.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:25 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:06 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:04 pm

he hasn't tried to pocket me yet, means he's probs town
I'll be the decider of that.
the last two times he was a wolf he straight up tried to (and succeeded for a time) in pocketing me.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:33 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:11 pm @hollowkatt I need your help to develop my reads, what would you say is the most prominent/important feature of your scum game? Links with examples plox.
my most important feature is not spewing my team when I die and not picking fights.
my second most important feature is definitely knowing how to count to 1.

Beelzebub Mafia

Bluey Mafia - I did end game this one

AtLA Mafia - seanzie basically ran this show, I was along for the ride.

as to whether or not these are the kinds of examples you're looking for I have no idea.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:35 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:17 pm
osieorb18 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:12 pm

Talks about Pokemon and then in the next post complains that the game isn't progressing.
I haven’t played with creature enough- is apathy a scum trait of his?
early game apathy is creature indicative. Later in the game if the apathy remains it's probs wolf indicative.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 7:56 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:39 pm
osieorb18 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:49 pm

I could see her being town on general blase purity but I'm not entirely convinced and I'm a little surprised that you have her as one of your strongish townreads at this point.
I don’t know what her scum game looks like, but I’m agreeing with her reads right now.

I could be very wrong, which my D1 reads are wont to be, but ima stick a corncob pipe in it and call it frosty
her scum game is brutal and makes you cry. also pockets you and uses you to her own advantage. No i'm not salty why do you ask?

HK has made a number of posts like this today, which offer little insight into his thought process or what he thinks about the game.

This does not include extended back-and-forths about complaining about reading posts in this game thread.

HK has offered a couple reads.

Spoiler: show
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:24 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:06 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:04 pm

he hasn't tried to pocket me yet, means he's probs town
ok let’s try something different:

I activate my uno reverse. Who do you think looks scummy so far?
tbh I don't like your posts much. Your attempt to work yourself into the P1 joke set felt forced. I also think screen is potentially wolfy but that's more along the lines of "I think screen tried to set a trap and failed" more than it is "screen is wolfing".

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 7:56 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:51 pm I played some league and talked about white supremacy with my grandparents, now that I'm wanting to die, I have reached my peak mafia form. Time to carry
unironically going to town read this

But the srceenplay one is, dare I say, hedgey, and the DOOM one is unexplained.

I'm putting HK in the scum pile for now.
of all the cases written against me in the history of mafia this one is the most lame.

but ok, lets go through this line by line I guess.

The first post you cite is a conversation between myself and srceen. I challenge his vote on me, he explains it, and then I push back because he's trying to have it both ways. He says I do the hard thing, then he votes me for "being lazy" except that I'm not being lazy. My "lazy" comment was directed towards scotty when I said I didn't care if he thought it was lazy, I find looking for townies makes more sense and works better for me.

The second post you cite is me making a read on mac for very specific personal reasons. The last two games I've had with wolf mac he specifically pocketed me, he knows it works. So that he hasn't tried doing that thus far is town indicative for him. How is that not offering insight into how I'm thinking? I'm laying out exactly why I have that read.

My comment on creature is a conversation with scotty and again draws on my personal experience with creature. Again I'm not sure where that's not insight into how I'm thinking.

My dunya comment sure, that's a throw-away. impugn me for that I guess.

I do straight up say my srceen read is weird, that's obvs to anyone who read it.

What about the DOOM read needs explaining? I could expand on that in terms of I like the other things they're saying, but mostly it's the attitude of "putting you big person pants on and getting to work" that I don't find comes from a wolf all that often. DOOM might be a highly capable wolf (not sure I've ever seen them wolf tbh) and sure, might say something like that as a wolf, but generally the "ugh lets go fucking solve this" comes from town vastly more often than it does from town.

I don't like that you called this case lame. Rude. Also, it isn't lame. I stand by my reasoning that your contributions to that point look tepid, an that many of your posts are not making contributions to this game based on what's happening in this game.

Part of the reason I find this suspicious is that I sometimes find myself as mafia talking about other players' meta a lot, because it's easy to make a statement without offering an opinion on them based specifically on what they're doing in this game.
I think you missed the part where I'm not talking about meta at all.

Just because you didn't use the word meta doesn't mean you aren't talking about it.

Is Mac sussing me just by association for my hk vote. Shame on you Mac, I'm definitely town.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:35 pm am I shadowbanned or something? Marmot wrote up a case on me, I said it was junk with reasons, and crickets.
I know I'm not "omg it's teh HK taking over" but also I'm not like just chopped liver.

You're allowed to interact with this game in other ways than responses to responses to your response of my case.

(I feel you, it's annoying to write a wallpost and have it ignored, but also... who reads those?)

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:26 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:24 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:23 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:21 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:19 pm I don't hate you Mac. I might even vote Dunya with you.
Our first game together in forever and u want me gone just like that

[VOTE: HK] aubergine
I know you don't think this is going to work on me.
No, it was sarcasm.

You'd be doing me a favour
I'm not sure what to make of this.

Can somebody compile a list of everyone MacDougall has replied to (in order) this game? I need the PBPA for trend analysis.

No

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:23 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:18 pm [VOTE: moonwink] aubergine

had 0 votes, is sussy, wolves not voting there, sussy
I also have 0 votes.
it is more justifiable for you to have 0 votes than them given they are suspected by a large swathe of players and yet the wolves have found no cause to be trying to wagon them, you being dunya have teflon for skin
You have my blessings to murder me when I log off to sleep. Godspeed.

You have 3 more posts before you can do that.

@MacDougall you have like 9 more posts, (in case you weren't paying attention).

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