The Syndicate

Great job wolves.

Also same to town. Yes it was a sweep, but this is easily the best town performance I have seen in a game where they were swept. The outcome doesn't accurately reflect that, but that's how it goes sometimes.

Great effort. Jay, I hope you come back for another, and if you do, please let me know so I can be assured to sign up (especially since I seem to have no trouble reading you anymore).

Maybe naa would hammer himself?

I would tbh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:07 pm How long until day end again?

How long until night begin >:D

GaggedGimmyGay

^How I read that: Jay is normal.

I could flip a coin between Alison or NAA first, but I think Mac being third is fine.

Given that Alison has provided more transparent content than NAA, I think flipping her first would be more beneficial if we're wrong.

If those three don't contain the wolves, I agree Nanook/Wilgy is next in line. Dunno who I would pick from MR/Dizzy after that.

Of the NAA/Mac/Alison love triangle:


NAA doesn't appear to have a read on Mac, and is hard sheeping/defending Alison

Alison is calling Mac scum, but won't let us elim him, and NAA is alone in null-land for her

Mac appears to have a townread of Alison (though has entertained the idea that she is mafia) and townread NAA for most of the day up until a recent page.


The fact that this 3-person POE all doesn't want anyone else in it to die has me leaning towards thinking it contains at the very least 1 scum, if not more.

:thumb:

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:43 pm What if the crowd of Jay, Hally, Dizzy, C4, Marmot, and I all rank Alison, NAA, Mac in preferred order and then find the average score to decide who dies.

(In this plan Wilgy and NAA are NPCs.)

Why is NAA an npc and a poe here?

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:39 pm me when marmot dies instead of me because dizzy un-threadspewed me

Psst wolves, I scumread hally now

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:37 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:36 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:52 am I'm already volume clearing hally and mac idgaf

Never mind that was nanook

He volume cleared Mac in the same post. :/

@MacDougall Why tf would you volume clear Hally. Booo

Mac and nanook confirmed alts

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:47 pm I'm just like scolding everyones play style and how they are "doing it wrong".
Alison, get better reads Jesus.
Jimmay, write differently.
Mac, don't be a pouty poutface.

^Dizzy is confirmed town. Thank you.

What's funny is that I was thinking how townie this post was before reading your conclusion

Am I pocketed?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:52 am I'm already volume clearing hally and mac idgaf

Never mind that was nanook

He volume cleared Mac in the same post. :/

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:44 pm Why do we actually town read Hally again? I've already forgotten.

Does Jimmay always write posts that seems so academic they basically end up lacking meaning (to me?) Have I just forgotten. I feel like every statement and every read is just "quantitively this and qualitatively that but inverse it and flip it at its head over time and you'll get the sum of my concern for the nuances of.." Ok, this is totally a parody and done with a lot of love, I hope you believe me Jimmay. And it may very, very well be more on my side. I just find it hard to process what your actual point is a lot of the time.

You volume cleared them iirc

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:39 pm Anyone else notice that ISOs are a bit weird now? Quoted material within posts are collapsed into the post, and it makes it harder than it usually is to interpret. I think it's because posts are being truncated now, and they weren't in the past.

I believe there are a couple different ways to view ISOs, and the ones Scotty chose do that.

If you go to the subforum that contains this thread, and access ISOs via the postcounts from there, those ISOs aren't truncated

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Gonna take a break from the thread, will probably be around intermittently the rest of the day.

Town

Hally
JJJ
c4
Dizzy
MR

Townish to Null

DrWilgy
Nanook

POE

Alison
NAA
MacDougall



Per JJJ's earlier request, I can come up with 5 fairly solid town, but not 6.

Also, per your point Jay, I think MR being flippant/snarky is not necessarily a scumtell. I recall him being bothered and flippant for being pushed in Philo Mafia, just by the sheer fact that he was a low poster. He's probably capable of doing that as scum too, but I think it's at the very least NAI.

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Hasn't claimed gay yet. This is a serious vote.

I know you chose to sheep Alison much earlier in the day than now, so I guess voting MR is consistent with that.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:56 pm I''m surprised Marmot is so willing to kill me on a whim.

I haven't fully grasped what my read is on you, so I placed a vote while I muse on it.

There are a couple things you've done that bug me. One is that you've defended yourself a number of times this game with the statement "It's a minor technicality".

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:38 pm @NotAnAxehole why did u have c4 as outed mafia?

A minor technicality.

I thought their reaction to it was bad too.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:15 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:14 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:37 pm I jest, but those reads

The timeline is relevant when you treated my reads the same way at the time.

Maybe I did... Still minor technicality. I didn't wolf read Hally till Alison did.

This is one of those intricacies where NAA is using a speciific phrase to describe something, and has done it multiple times. I don't know why, but this sort of thing bugs me. It's like, recycling a phrase to explain something without explaining it using more words, or in this case, to lighten the severity of the topic in question.

I don't feel like I can explain this very well. I tried.


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Another thing is this sheeping of Alison on MR. I find Alison to be scummier in this game than MR, so even if we're going to treat those two players as a difference check (or dichotomy or whatever), I would rather elim Alison first.


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Also you're the only person in this game who hasn't locked me in as town.

My thoughts on c4. No one is talking about c4 at all. I realized he was a blindspot for me last night, thought about his posts, and didn't recall much he'd done in terms of reads or engaging, but remembered he'd offered a lot of fluff. I opened up his ISO and discovered that my memory was off-base, and c4 has been engaging a fair amount, and I just haven't been paying attention (sorry c4)

Anyway, I took it as townie that he had been participating more than I perceived. Are there other reasons that he is town to other people?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:45 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:44 pm [VOTE: NAA] aubergine

Don't be foolish, we can sheep Alison together.

It won't work. My vote for alison isn't sheeping.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:47 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:39 am NAA put Alison back at 5 and moved back after I did. Just keeping things straight for uncalled votes.

This is a lie

This one.

I was there, this is what happened.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:42 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:32 pm Can you talk more about why MR is scum?

Baaaaaaaaaaah

My vote wasn't in response to this, but I was looking through your ISO where you called a JJJ post a lie, and was triggered by that.

That last post is directed at NAA.

Can you talk more about why MR is scum?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:59 am So, MasterRadishes is mafia right, when are yall moving onto this wagon?

As far as I can tell, this is your first mention of him in this game.

I seem to have killed thread.

Mafia please kill me n1, it's been a lifelong dream of mine.

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:26 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:23 am Jk, I don't think it's odd that Jay moved his vote. Scum Jay could let it ride in this situation and probably not hurt from it if Alison is town

him moving his vote wasn’t wolfy but waiting til i asked to unvote is not what expect from him

but idk if it means anything

I'm falling asleep at my keyboard.

I'll try to return to this tomorrow if there aren't two thousand other posts to read between now and then.

Jk, I don't think it's odd that Jay moved his vote. Scum Jay could let it ride in this situation and probably not hurt from it if Alison is town

Is this the part where we turbo jjj?

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:17 am did alison just get hammered??

No we need 6 for maj

I'm going to bed with Alison at L-1

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:55 pm my suspects among people with posts are:

Alison
Hally
NAA

no particular order. we have a team of two. I already don't especially like a pairing of NAA with Hally or of Alison with Hally.

So an immediate POE emerges: NAA, Alison, Marmot, Wilgy

Ah yes this was a JJJ POE at one point.

What does your POE look like now Jay?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:56 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:32 am the thing is i can’t tell if he’s gimmicking here? his tone is weird but not in an obviously gimmicky way

I don't have the capacity for gimmicks rn. Getting married in a week.

My tone is probably off because I didn't read the first 10 pages and I'm struggling to really read anyone as scum. With the exception of c4, and I don't even get that one.

Congratulations!!!!!

Also wut!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:49 am okay so presuming that alison is mafia and she is in antispew/openwolfing

the fact is that her pushing MR for bad reasons would mean MR is her partner anyway

The "kill MR then kill me if it's wrong" is certainly a way to send her to F3 if that's the case.

I don't really buy that theory, but that might be because MR hasn't pinged me.

Who are the wolves Mac?

To be clear Mac, I'm talking specifically about Alison, and yes her read of you is involved, but I'm not sure if that is important to what I'm talking about.

Marmot: Alison's being openwolfy

At the same time, Mac: Alison is openwolfy when she's cornered and she's not doing that.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:37 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:32 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:40 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:37 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:30 pm Mac responded to my concern post. It was a scummy response. Mac is probably scum.

I am never voting Mac today.

wat

If we vote out Mac today and he flips town the game is lost so I don't see a reason to risk it when I can gun for his partner.

I don't remotely see how this is a good strategy, nor do I agree with the hypothetical where Mac is town.

it's pretty hard for me to think of an example where I've died as town prior to the end of n1 without a wolf dead alongside me that town went on to win

I assume you're rarely-to-never elimed as town Day 1, which helps support those stats.

My qualm is that Alison is telling us that we're going to lose if we mis-ex you Day 1. I disagree. You're a good player, but you're not the only one in this game.

Also she's literally admitting you're scummy and defending you at the same time.


I think this is an incredibly scummy post from her. The logic here doesn't make sense to me, and honestly looks like blatant open-wolfing.

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:29 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:23 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:16 am skimmed some wilgy games and honestly didn’t help other than confirming my recollection that he can be more villagery as a villager than he’s currently being, but it seems like he isn’t always

what wilgy games did you skim and how many?

trash pandas - he was a villager and gimmicked the whole game so idc about it

coffia - he was wolf and seemed sorta similar to here but not exactly

philo maf 2 - he was a villager and gimmicked D1 but then when he dropped the gimmick he was a lot more villagery than here

molly maguires - was a villager and way more villagery than here

In Coffia, Wilgy gimmicked early Day 1, but dropped it to try to damage control the heat he was getting and failed.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:29 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:23 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:22 am like how much can I actually elaborate on a read I made from skimming a guy's 9 post ISO? do you want me to break it down character by character?

I expect your read to contain more content than those 9 posts yes.

then that's ridiculous and feel free to mischop me

I was joking,

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:40 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:37 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:30 pm Mac responded to my concern post. It was a scummy response. Mac is probably scum.

I am never voting Mac today.

wat

If we vote out Mac today and he flips town the game is lost so I don't see a reason to risk it when I can gun for his partner.

I don't remotely see how this is a good strategy, nor do I agree with the hypothetical where Mac is town.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:22 am like how much can I actually elaborate on a read I made from skimming a guy's 9 post ISO? do you want me to break it down character by character?

I expect your read to contain more content than those 9 posts yes.

In Wilgy's defense, he had 3 votes on him before he had even posted. I don't know if I've ever seen that before. He mentioned he was in a shitty mood not long after entering the game, I dunno if that gamestate contributed.

I'm willing to give him a little grace for that.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:15 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:14 pm Are we talking about the same mac?

I'm not sure what you mean, but if you disagree go ahead and talk about that.

I'll don't have that ability atm (I've just been checking in on my phone every now and then), but I will later in the day