The Syndicate

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:39 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:31 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:29 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:26 pm I don't get upset in mafia games though.
Everyone has feelings, no matter how hard they try to hide them.
I do have feelings yes, those feelings don't include sadness in mafia games.
Why does everyone think you're scum?

The reason this question isn't useful is because falcon can read for himself, and also, I can't know the reasons people think this, at least not as well as they can

Anyway

I believe this is an attempt for falcon to find an excuse to vote for me since he didn't have one before, and since the Sean wagon didn't take.

Anyway, falcon does interact with Alison a bit more day 1, but we don't see a read from him on her. I see this engagement as him trying to generate some more positive thread state for her.

Sean is basically cleared after leading the elim on Alison. I was surprised to see him still alive here, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, and yet falcon started the day voting for him.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:05 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:50 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:36 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:18 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:08 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:31 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:30 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Policy Sean if they aren't a wolf.
This is a real vote by the way.
Why?
Because I think they way you've "fluffed" is more likely to come from wolf!you than town!you.
Fluffed...do you mean her post re: her upcoming activity levels?
No, her vote on me with her follow up. I am slightly wary of her excusing herself from possibly participating later in the day while dropping a rvs vote though.
I mean, sure it was a flimsy vote, but what makes it worse than Dr Wilgy's?

We then see him attempt to direct Sean's attention to wilgy (who we now know is town)

Alison's vote was a joke, falcon is defending is seriously here

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:36 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:18 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:08 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:31 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:30 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Policy Sean if they aren't a wolf.
This is a real vote by the way.
Why?
Because I think they way you've "fluffed" is more likely to come from wolf!you than town!you.
Fluffed...do you mean her post re: her upcoming activity levels?

Sean offers a serious explanation for his Alison vote, falcon does question this one, this is different treatment than the immediately preceding treatment of alison.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:46 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:16 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:49 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:27 pm In about 18 hours I will get on a plane, and my flight should take slightly more than 24 hours, after which I will likely be exhausted and collapse into bed. So I won't be around too much during that time, although I'll try to keep up on my phone using the in-flight wifi. Letting you all know in advance.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
So you're saying you've got 16 hours of solid solving in ya right now? Egg-cellent

Why Sean?
He didn't give the names of the mafia he hacked.
That's the best reason for a vote I've seen so far.

[VOTE: Sean] aubergine

Alison makes a vote, falcon follows suit immediately. Yes it was a joke by Alison and also by falcon did not question it (well he did briefly before sheeping)

Falcon gets my pick for person you should elim after me.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:39 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:31 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:29 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:26 pm I don't get upset in mafia games though.
Everyone has feelings, no matter how hard they try to hide them.
I do have feelings yes, those feelings don't include sadness in mafia games.
Why does everyone think you're scum?

You should probably ask them

Also, this isn't a useful question.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:29 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:26 pm I don't get upset in mafia games though.
Everyone has feelings, no matter how hard they try to hide them.

I do have feelings yes, those feelings don't include sadness in mafia games.

Anyway, I was trying to push discussion more than anything at the EOD yesterday. Yes it wasn't easy, but it was a quiet day and I wanted more interaction to happen.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:07 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 6:04 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:01 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:30 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:28 am They're doing lazy Nanook things, but not the sort they do as scum.

I agree with that.

How about srceenplay?
This post is why I think Marmot is a good chop today btw.
Is there context I'm missing from this? Otherwise I dont hey why it means anything for marmot
It felt less like Marmot was suspecting me or trying to work with me, and more like Marmot was trying to see whom else I could be tempted to vote. He asked me about Nanook, and his response felt like he was upset I didn't want to push there, and just kind of meh-ly agreed with me without real reason or asking for clarification.

Since the conversation started with Marmot lightly shading me for focusing on only Alison, and then I pushed him about how I wasn't doing anything at all (I was telling him I wasn't doing anything), he does he just timidly agree on something vague I said about Nook without follow-up or pressure? If he'd accept an answer as meh as mine with regard to Nook, and agree that Nook was town, why did he ask?

Also it's seeing-eye ceackhead shit.

I don't get upset in mafia games though.

I don't think mizery actually read day 1 tbh, but that's probably not important anyway

Mizery wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 2:32 pm I wanted a summary that i could reply to with "haha get got i did read d1 why are you lying to me"

Marmot confirmed ic

Marmot should probably die for pushing Alison early in the day then trying to encourage a flash wagon at eod

If Alison is a hit, this game is probably an easy win due to how many people it probably clears.

I don't really think it's a hit though

[VOTE: naa] aubergine

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 12:54 pm Is Alison one to just avoid EODs?

I don't think so, but I think she told us she wasn't even going to be around due to traveling for the last 16 or so hours

Sean is mildly irked

[VOTE: mizery] aubergine

Flash wagon anyone?

srceenplay wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 12:51 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 12:50 pm [VOTE: srceenplay] aubergine
That wasn’t what I expected

I also didn't expect you to vote Alison lol

I think falcon is town and won't vote there

Then again I don't like any of the wagons right now except maybe porscha

[VOTE: srceenplay] aubergine

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 12:34 pm Anyone who thinks Alison is not a wolf, can you point to why? I don't see it.

I tunneled and pushed her for a "bad start" in Highway Mafia, and she was yeeted and flipped town. I think this is not unlike that.

I also think that Alison has updated her approach to the thread as she felt the thread needed, which is to say, she went from fluff-posting to more proactive engaging because the thread has been quiet. I think wolf Alison would be more likely to stick to what she had committed to doing.

I also agree with many of her takes in the last 24 hours

I'd rather kill Porscha than Alison at, but I also don't like voting alongside misery, who has given us the least amount of content thus far

I do have a qualm with srceenplay, he stated Creature and falcon as his wolfreads in his first post, and has been committed to those reads ever since. I do like his early take on falcon.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:41 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:00 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:44 pm I’ve read page 1
Creature and Falcon are scum so far.
Why Falcon?
Fake questions and fake fluff.
It’s early RVS but still feels fake.
Page 3 or 4 they where also talking just to talk. Trying to fake a purpose.

Sean looks belligerently stubborn town.

Allison looks town that wanted to progress past Sean but is not feed up.

But I don't like the inflexibility, and don't know why he suspects Creature, because he hasn't talked about him at all. Can you explain that one srceenplay?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:35 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:30 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:28 am They're doing lazy Nanook things, but not the sort they do as scum.

I agree with that.

How about srceenplay?
I don't remember a single thing from screenplay.

I don't either tbh, and wonder if anyone not named falcon does.

I think that falcon is town. He is handling the pressure here differently than he did in Ducktales (where he was elim'd Day 1 as a wolf). In that game, he shaded the people who were voting for him, while in this game, he's given srceenplay a TR, and continued to have extended conversations with other players.

His reads look more performative in that game than they do in this game as well.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:28 am They're doing lazy Nanook things, but not the sort they do as scum.

I agree with that.

How about srceenplay?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:23 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:21 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:20 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:13 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:06 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 9:52 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:00 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Brief thoughts, as wifi is laggy.

- I am not impressed by Creature basically trying to shoehorn in a claim that he is unable to confidently claim town as wolf. I am also suspicious that nobody at all has shown interest in the point that he might have TMI on Nanook.

- I think people are giving Seanzie way too much credit for his aggression, when it has mostly taken the form of a one-note attack against me. This is the easiest kind of aggression to fake, and you are severely underestimating Seanzie's wolf game if you think he is incapable of faking it.

- Nanook's blatant sheeping of people is NAI, but his showing interest in shopping around rather than lazily parking a vote on me and peaceing out is kinda villagery.

- Not convinced by the falcon wagon; the man's done nothing wrong.

I agree on every note except for sean, sort of. I think the timing of his aggression being the first thing to pull us out of rvs (sort of), is mildly townie for him, but I am looking out for how reacts the rest of today and future days to get a better idea of him. He is starting to show signs of one thing I am worried about, and that is that he is focusing on nothing but you ever since his first fluff case.
Eh, How did you come up with "he'a focused on nothing but Alison" when really I just haven't posted?

Before this post, you had 65 posts in the game, 62 of them if you start at the point where you voted Alison. 55 of those posts are interactions with Alison or are about Alison being a wolf.

That's 88.7% of your posts.
And the number of posts I've made since I determined Alison is a wolf has been like 2.
I thought you'd determined that a long time ago.
Yes, exactly. Hence my confusion on you saying "I'm focused on nothing but Alison" when really I just wasn't posting at all.

When I said that, I was referring the start of the day as opposed to the end of your flurry of posts yesterday.

Anyway.

This conversation doesn't feel very useful, so I'm changing topics. What's your read on Nanook?

@DaughterOfOmega is the only one who hasn't voted. Please come vote (even if it's for me).

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:20 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:13 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:06 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 9:52 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:00 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Brief thoughts, as wifi is laggy.

- I am not impressed by Creature basically trying to shoehorn in a claim that he is unable to confidently claim town as wolf. I am also suspicious that nobody at all has shown interest in the point that he might have TMI on Nanook.

- I think people are giving Seanzie way too much credit for his aggression, when it has mostly taken the form of a one-note attack against me. This is the easiest kind of aggression to fake, and you are severely underestimating Seanzie's wolf game if you think he is incapable of faking it.

- Nanook's blatant sheeping of people is NAI, but his showing interest in shopping around rather than lazily parking a vote on me and peaceing out is kinda villagery.

- Not convinced by the falcon wagon; the man's done nothing wrong.

I agree on every note except for sean, sort of. I think the timing of his aggression being the first thing to pull us out of rvs (sort of), is mildly townie for him, but I am looking out for how reacts the rest of today and future days to get a better idea of him. He is starting to show signs of one thing I am worried about, and that is that he is focusing on nothing but you ever since his first fluff case.
Eh, How did you come up with "he'a focused on nothing but Alison" when really I just haven't posted?

Before this post, you had 65 posts in the game, 62 of them if you start at the point where you voted Alison. 55 of those posts are interactions with Alison or are about Alison being a wolf.

That's 88.7% of your posts.
And the number of posts I've made since I determined Alison is a wolf has been like 2.

I thought you'd determined that a long time ago.

Also, we have like ~2.75 hours left in the day right?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 10:06 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 9:52 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:00 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Brief thoughts, as wifi is laggy.

- I am not impressed by Creature basically trying to shoehorn in a claim that he is unable to confidently claim town as wolf. I am also suspicious that nobody at all has shown interest in the point that he might have TMI on Nanook.

- I think people are giving Seanzie way too much credit for his aggression, when it has mostly taken the form of a one-note attack against me. This is the easiest kind of aggression to fake, and you are severely underestimating Seanzie's wolf game if you think he is incapable of faking it.

- Nanook's blatant sheeping of people is NAI, but his showing interest in shopping around rather than lazily parking a vote on me and peaceing out is kinda villagery.

- Not convinced by the falcon wagon; the man's done nothing wrong.

I agree on every note except for sean, sort of. I think the timing of his aggression being the first thing to pull us out of rvs (sort of), is mildly townie for him, but I am looking out for how reacts the rest of today and future days to get a better idea of him. He is starting to show signs of one thing I am worried about, and that is that he is focusing on nothing but you ever since his first fluff case.
Eh, How did you come up with "he'a focused on nothing but Alison" when really I just haven't posted?

Before this post, you had 65 posts in the game, 62 of them if you start at the point where you voted Alison. 55 of those posts are interactions with Alison or are about Alison being a wolf.

That's 88.7% of your posts.

Oh, I wasn't even voting Alison, I was voting Mizery lol

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

I'm done voting Alison, I think she's been pretty townie.

Porscha's response to Alison's push had more indignation than I would have liked, but maybe that's normal for Porcsha idk.

My main concern is the post where Alison asked him for other names to look at, and he gave her this.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:33 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:30 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:29 pm alison there's no way you see so many worthless day 1 posts from others and think that mine are worth voting me over. doesn't make sense
Which other users have an ISO comprised entirely of worthless posts?
seriously? creature? nanook? mizery?

And after Alison asked him to vote, he voted Alison rather than exploring a name on this list of players with "worthless posts".

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 8:46 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:39 pm Townie sup
Why are you town? Can you do a thing town would normally do...maybe some of that famous Nook solvey stuff?

Cuz my tummy vibe on you says scum

Nook is famous for doing solvey stuff?

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 9:46 pm
Mizery wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 9:19 pm Creature how do you know I'm illwei
I guess anyone can deduce you're Illwei.

When you made that commen, I thought you were waving to a spec tbh. I thought about asking about it, but it didn't really feel relevant.

Anyway.

I had no idea.

Oh, one portion I do disagree with. I don't think Creature TMI'd Nanook, and I'm uncertain where you see that Alison.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:00 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Brief thoughts, as wifi is laggy.

- I am not impressed by Creature basically trying to shoehorn in a claim that he is unable to confidently claim town as wolf. I am also suspicious that nobody at all has shown interest in the point that he might have TMI on Nanook.

- I think people are giving Seanzie way too much credit for his aggression, when it has mostly taken the form of a one-note attack against me. This is the easiest kind of aggression to fake, and you are severely underestimating Seanzie's wolf game if you think he is incapable of faking it.

- Nanook's blatant sheeping of people is NAI, but his showing interest in shopping around rather than lazily parking a vote on me and peaceing out is kinda villagery.

- Not convinced by the falcon wagon; the man's done nothing wrong.

I agree on every note except for sean, sort of. I think the timing of his aggression being the first thing to pull us out of rvs (sort of), is mildly townie for him, but I am looking out for how reacts the rest of today and future days to get a better idea of him. He is starting to show signs of one thing I am worried about, and that is that he is focusing on nothing but you ever since his first fluff case.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:24 pm I hope this is an enjoyable mafia game

What would help you enjoy this game of mafia?

Damn Mizery is frozen, we should probably just kill them now.

[VOTE: mizery] aubergine for being in this game

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:19 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:17 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:14 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:05 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:59 am wouldn't it be f unny if sean got like the 3p role and it's just executioner, target: alison

But this game is mountainous.
9/10 dentists agree that you should vote Alison!!

Spoiler: show
Thanks for the reminder that I need to go to the dentist.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine I can't tell if hammers are available, but we can figure that out later
Bleh

Sorry for getting you sick

Voting nanook is generally a good choice

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:59 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:14 am I have seen seanzie distance from his teammates before on Day 1 as wolf. That said, his interactions with Alison go far beyond that, and I think it is both not w/w, and also sean looks town from them and Alison looks mildly scummy from them.

Alison did add a disclaimer about activity in her first post, but didn't seem to commit to playing fluffy until sean accused her of it.
My playstyle decision was made prerand.

Why do you read Seanzie as V and me as W off it?

I think it's possible that you committed to the "fluff" playstyle as a means of escaping suspicion sean was throwing at you, including persisting that you were "raising thread morale".

I also think Sean pushing the game out of rvs immediately is townie for him, as I believe as mafia, he would lightly shade a teammate or post nary at all for most of day 1.

But it is an early Day 1 read, so there's certainly a chance more content will arise that will change my mind.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:31 pm Marmot's commentary felt pretty fake on page 4.

No real substance but felt the need to keep posting. Comes off as forced

No real substance? What do you consider a post that has substance?

Hammers are enabled, so Alison is now at L-2 :3

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