The Syndicate

Scotty's recent posts responding to SVS give me pause on him. He says that he doesn't see eye-to-eye with SVS, but on the other hand, his responses are very conciliatory in a way that he's kind of accepting what SVS is saying, which doesn't strike me as a response I would expect from him towards a player that he doesn't see eye-to-eye with. I would expect a little more challenging of viewpoints.


It could just be Scotty attempting to have good faith discussions after SVS accused him of the opposite, but that's not my gut impression.

No u

@nutella I hope you're having a good birthday!!

@Dyslexicon I miss your cute face and hope to join you sooooon!

@Ricochet pls come post things k thx

Syn
SVS
Scotty
nutella
Thunal
Rico
falcon
Epi


I feel pretty solid about the upper half of this list. Nutella I could still see being wrong on, but I'm very content with a townread there for now.

I do like some of falcon's earlier observations and questions. He didn't seem to be rushing conclusions or have an agenda. Some of his later posts on Day 1 seem more like busy work: asking people questions and telling them to explain their reads. That's a bit less good.

"I have no opinion about this player, therefore I'll make one up right now"

Yeah falcon could very easily be a wolf.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:28 am <snip>


Thunal I don't really have an opinion on, so let's say town.




I feel Epi is more present & engaged D1 for it to be Maf Epi

Wolfy post.

The Thunal point in particular: the conclusion does not match the observation at all. No thought was given to this read, ergo wolfy.

Still feeling pretty confident on SVS town too.

I guess my towncore consists of all the S-players.

(Also Syn is fookin town. Nobody every chop him please)

Thank you so much Syn for preemptively answering my question.

I get what you're saying about Thunal, Scotty. I don't entirely agree with you, as a I think forgetting reads is a fairly common thing (it is for me anyway), particularly reads I haven't put a lot of thought/time into.

That's not to say she's town, I just think that particular part of the case is not a wolfy point.


I'm kinda curious now why Syn struggled to decide who was wolfier in the difference check he mentioned between you/Thual.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:38 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:31 am I'm mostly letting vibes inform my reads this game, and following it up with analysis if needed, and many players have passed the vibe check for me thus far. Epi and Rico have not passed it for me. Thunal and falcon have had moments. I'm still feeling good about the rest of the players. Their Day 2 vibes match their Day 1 vibes (those who have posted thus far at least) and I think that's a good sign for them: Syn and Scotty in particular.


The one thing that gives me pause about Thunal is that I know she has a fairly logical brain, and that approach does translate to mafia to some extent, and it's possible that approach is just not as obvious of a town vibe.

My main thing with Thunal is looking at her iso as a whole looks like….I dunno…crafted chapters. If that makes sense.

If you look at her iso and at each post as a separate segment it seems like surface thought is being written into each paragraph. Posts *should* have thought, right? so that in and of itself isn’t wolfy. But it’s the *way* she’s saying the thoughts that are giving off vibes of having a pulse on the game while not making any residual or spicy reads. Im not convinced she truly believes her progressions.

I just dare anyone to read her iso in succession and see if they can at least see a smidgeon of what I’m seeing. I don’t think she

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Scotty was killed, he was...

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:33 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:30 am Note to self: If there’s a deepwolf in this game, it’s Syn.

If the team is Syn/Rico, and Syn can keep Rico alive the entire game, I will eat a sock.

And then force @tutuu to follow through on her such bet from GoC 2021. I have not forgotten!!!

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:30 am Note to self: If there’s a deepwolf in this game, it’s Syn.

If the team is Syn/Rico, and Syn can keep Rico alive the entire game, I will eat a sock.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:27 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:19 am #snip
Thunal I have an easier time seeing as town, even if she isn't doing her tell.

What tell? Is this meta on her that you yourself have baked up?

She waves her hands in the air. It's a site to behold!

I'm mostly letting vibes inform my reads this game, and following it up with analysis if needed, and many players have passed the vibe check for me thus far. Epi and Rico have not passed it for me. Thunal and falcon have had moments. I'm still feeling good about the rest of the players. Their Day 2 vibes match their Day 1 vibes (those who have posted thus far at least) and I think that's a good sign for them: Syn and Scotty in particular.


The one thing that gives me pause about Thunal is that I know she has a fairly logical brain, and that approach does translate to mafia to some extent, and it's possible that approach is just not as obvious of a town vibe.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:14 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:49 am alright it's cool

epignosis seems like a fine wagon

i would also like thunal to be one

K

[VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

Nani!

I don't care for this reversal on Epi that Thunal did on Day 1. She reversed her read again later. I know Thunal has been maintaining that this sort of thing is much more likely for her to do as town, but that doesn't make it town.

I get that Epi made posts after his original vote that could lead to a reversal, but these two observations have the opposite read about the same event: Epi insta-voting.

And then after her next reversal:


She's not wrong that Epi doesn't seem to have an agenda, but his takes aren't very compelling.


Dizzy didn't even look mean. He was just a carefree bundle of joy. Also this read has now been proven wrong.

I don't think Epi cares about pushing his reads. He just has them. I want to feel compelled to believe Epi when I read his cases, even if I disagree with them, but I just don't.


Also he just sat on the sidelines when nutella and Lime Coke were going at it.

Epi and Thunal could very well be paired, but I voted Epi because I think he's more likely to be a wolf, and he doesn't care about the roof. Thunal I have an easier time seeing as town, even if she isn't doing her tell.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:05 am /in with extreme slank cover. I'm going to a wedding next weekend and will be out of town Thurs-Sun.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:39 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:49 pm /in with extreme slank cover. Me and Marmot are getting married next weekend and will be out of town Thurs-Sun.

I'm eloping to Norway it'll be lovely!!!

I thought about doing a bunch of analysis and wallposting but a naked vote sounded more fun. It was.

(Ok but for real I'm leaving for Idaho tomorrow and will be out of service the rest of the day so I have to vote tonight or not at all)

@Thunal33 how does w!Thunal play the game of mafia?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:58 pm nutella is my top pick to go today. Discuss.

Nice crosspost.

I'm about to head to an appt, but gth no.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:48 pm

Spoiler: show

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:41 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:34 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:32 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:29 pm

How long did this take you?

https://www.ranzey.com/generators/bart/index.html

Have fun my friend!

Amazing.

This controversial subject has been on my mind for soooo long:

Spoiler: show

Please tell that to my wife. Jesus.

I hear that you're town (from you). Who does town Epignosis think the woofs are?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:41 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:37 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:32 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:31 pm I'm liking Marmot's d2 so far especially that he's trying to solve Rico.

I don't think wolf Syn would just say me/Scotty was a difference check if it was a difference check and Scotty was wolf.

I don't think the IF here can be known or confirmed by v!Syn?

This post feels either like TMI or a misstatement.


If Thunal doesn't know Syn's alignment, she would not propose a scenario for Syn that was predicated on the knowledge of another player's alignment, specifically Scotty being wolf.

From Thunal's POV, Syn would not know that Scotty is a wolf, but this statement is made suggesting Syn might do a thing knowing that Scotty was a wolf.

Am I missing something here?

I was saying that IF Syn was a wolf and Scotty was also a wolf, he probably wouldn't correctly say me/Scotty was a difference check.

Ah that's the part I missed, thanks.

Carry on.


(I don't think Syn's a wolf anyway)

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:32 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:31 pm I'm liking Marmot's d2 so far especially that he's trying to solve Rico.

I don't think wolf Syn would just say me/Scotty was a difference check if it was a difference check and Scotty was wolf.

I don't think the IF here can be known or confirmed by v!Syn?

This post feels either like TMI or a misstatement.


If Thunal doesn't know Syn's alignment, she would not propose a scenario for Syn that was predicated on the knowledge of another player's alignment, specifically Scotty being wolf.

From Thunal's POV, Syn would not know that Scotty is a wolf, but this statement is made suggesting Syn might do a thing knowing that Scotty was a wolf.

Am I missing something here?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:31 pm I'm liking Marmot's d2 so far especially that he's trying to solve Rico.

I don't think wolf Syn would just say me/Scotty was a difference check if it was a difference check and Scotty was wolf.

I don't think the IF here can be known or confirmed by v!Syn?

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:26 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:25 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:24 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:10 pm the more I see thunal and scotty interact, the more I consider the idea that they are different alignments from one another instead of teamed

could not tell you who's which though

Take a wolf guess

AHAHAHAHAHAJA that was actually an autocorrect and how appetizer

Apropos*

A pro's pro

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:00 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:52 pm Thunal why did you think my flip on Scotty was a good look?

I think it's towny to make that sort of very quick turnaround. Often wolves want to keep a progression that makes sense to the thread and keep pushes open.

This feels very consistent with your defense against Scotty right now, in that you're making a similar argument for how I'm town and for how you're town. Namely that wolves like progressions and that you're saying you and I didn't do that.

It feels weird. I don't know if I can put my finger on why, it might be that I'm worried you're arguing for v!me in order to support an argument for v!Thunal (especially after I flip town), which itself is pretty wolfy.

Thunal why did you think my flip on Scotty was a good look?

I don't recall my reads between sessions of posting in the thread either. Some yes, but I often have to ISO myself to see what I previously thought (which is one of the reason I like to show my work in the thread)

I was thinking the same thing earlier when Scotty mentioned that, but I don't think it's AI.

I know that I asked you a question and you answered it, I'm just confused by your approach right now given your worldview, which seems to involve ignoring Rico until further notice.

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:06 pm I have no reason to consider rico anything other than null based off of two posts

if you know he's an "extremely solid and active" player, then why is inactivity wolfy? is there some established meta of his where if he rands wolf, he doesn't play? seems unlikely

Why are you so interested in discussing this if he's off the table for you today (pending a volume/player change)? Why does it seem unlikely to you that inactivity is an AI facet of his play?


I've already explained what about him I think is wolfy and it isn't from activity.

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:54 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:33 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:28 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:26 pm Still on board with nutella, Syn, SVS town. Falcon to a lesser extent.

Thunal is a huge blind spot to me, mainly because we've had zero live interactions, so she's a priority reread for me today when I get the chance.

Epi and Rico have moved into my basement and I'm ready to start charging rent.

Scotty I'm still wary of for the LC read, but I think in the end he's probably just town.


We only have two mischops left, so we need a correct POE of four players at this point.

K
Well
I don’t think we should ever yeet Rico today. We need to find his partner first if he is bad, and he needs to participate. If he goes and he is town…well…we might as well be throwing the baby water out with the bathtub, as they say

Ture. But if not now, then when?

I agree with the general reasoning, and I think it most applies Day 1. But it also isn't a slot I would feel comfortable hinging the game in LYLO on chopping, if the level of activity keeps up.


Also I'm not saying that we should chop him today, I'm just saying I'm now open to the possibility, whereas yesterday I wasn't.

it is unlikely an empty slot will be allowed to remain empty all the way to LYLO

this insistence by multiple players to just phone it in and chop someone who isn't even playing is really quite baffling. surely we are capable of better

That's not what I'm saying we should do today. I think Rico made a wolfy post so I'm open to it now.

I don't think we're just going to sleepwalk into a Rico chop, we're just discussing it as an option.


Do you think that he is null or better at this point?


To me, this also stems from a history of playing with Rico. He has been an extremely solid and active player for years. In one game, he even posted 100's of nothingposts just to reach 1,000 in a game. In Secret Playerlist last year, he came and participated to a great extent as a nonplayer (and even trolled a bit). Yes there is a decent chance he just forgot about this game, or has zero interest in playing mafia and signed up for raisins? but his vote at EOD looks more like a wolf in such a scenario than it does town in that scenario.

We might not chop him today, but we're not going to just ignore him either.

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:50 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:12 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:37 pm Lime Coke is nowhere to be found! Lime Coke was the Bloodsealer's Skeletal!

Dizzy also never appeared the following morning. Dizzy was the Bloodsealer!

You have 48 hours to deliberate and find who did this! End of Day will be an hour later than normal because of my own awareness issues. Poll should be good to go now. Remember votes are locked and hammer is at 5. I will only count the first vote in the thread, but please have your vote in the poll match.

Tbh, I thought Scotty was the other PR based on his reaction to Lime Coke, but that theory was wrong.

Spoiler: show

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:55 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:51 am I'm actually like 50/50 on Scotty but plenty of time to figure that one out there.

You’re acting like a hungry dude at a Costco cycling around the same free samples over and over

And your indecision makes me townread you. Congratulations.

I thought this post was Lime Coke trying to signal to Scotty that he knew what Scotty was, and Scotty's response was one coming from the The Bloodsealer acknowledging it.

But at least now I don't have to pretend like that's the case, now that this game is almost mountainous.

I don't see it tbh

It appeared to me that Lime Coke was trending toward a townread of Scotty from prior observations, so this 50/50 comment just seemed like a weird conclusion, and I thought that was what he was going for.

And Scotty's acceptance of it didn't really make sense to me either.

I think that the Bloodsealer would be looking for the Skeletal, and I think the Skeletal might want to find a way to signal that they know who the Bloodsealer is, and that's what I saw in their interactions, culminating in this post. To me it seemed like Scotty found LC here.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:28 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:26 pm Still on board with nutella, Syn, SVS town. Falcon to a lesser extent.

Thunal is a huge blind spot to me, mainly because we've had zero live interactions, so she's a priority reread for me today when I get the chance.

Epi and Rico have moved into my basement and I'm ready to start charging rent.

Scotty I'm still wary of for the LC read, but I think in the end he's probably just town.


We only have two mischops left, so we need a correct POE of four players at this point.

K
Well
I don’t think we should ever yeet Rico today. We need to find his partner first if he is bad, and he needs to participate. If he goes and he is town…well…we might as well be throwing the baby water out with the bathtub, as they say

Ture. But if not now, then when?

I agree with the general reasoning, and I think it most applies Day 1. But it also isn't a slot I would feel comfortable hinging the game in LYLO on chopping, if the level of activity keeps up.


Also I'm not saying that we should chop him today, I'm just saying I'm now open to the possibility, whereas yesterday I wasn't.

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:27 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:20 pm As for Ricochet, I'd definitely consider him for a vote today. I don't think it's a stretch to say that his vote at the deadline was uninspiring. It's one thing to make an uninformed vote, or a hasty vote, but he seemed to try to force reasoning into it when he had none to give, which is kinda wolfy.

is it? it had no effect on anything and could just be someone scrambling to make a vote before EOD

unlikely Rico would have any awareness at all about vote locking or the hullabaloo around consolidating votes

He didn't have any good reasoning to couple with his vote, I think if he was town he'd be more likely to just admit that.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:24 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:12 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:37 pm Lime Coke is nowhere to be found! Lime Coke was the Bloodsealer's Skeletal!

Dizzy also never appeared the following morning. Dizzy was the Bloodsealer!

You have 48 hours to deliberate and find who did this! End of Day will be an hour later than normal because of my own awareness issues. Poll should be good to go now. Remember votes are locked and hammer is at 5. I will only count the first vote in the thread, but please have your vote in the poll match.

Tbh, I thought Scotty was the other PR based on his reaction to Lime Coke, but that theory was wrong.

Spoiler: show

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:55 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:51 am I'm actually like 50/50 on Scotty but plenty of time to figure that one out there.

You’re acting like a hungry dude at a Costco cycling around the same free samples over and over

And your indecision makes me townread you. Congratulations.

I thought this post was Lime Coke trying to signal to Scotty that he knew what Scotty was, and Scotty's response was one coming from the The Bloodsealer acknowledging it.

But at least now I don't have to pretend like that's the case, now that this game is almost mountainous.

Actually, LC ruined everything because I was building up to softing that I was the skeleton dude and chose him as my townmark, hence me telling everyone not to vote him. But lolol

I appreciate that you are admitting your supposition that his mark was me. I think I believe you

I noticed it in my reread, hence my sudden reversal in read on you.

Dizzy might've realized it too, hence his also sudden read reversal.


Anyway, good try. I think that's a pretty good look for you.

Still on board with nutella, Syn, SVS town. Falcon to a lesser extent.

Thunal is a huge blind spot to me, mainly because we've had zero live interactions, so she's a priority reread for me today when I get the chance.

Epi and Rico have moved into my basement and I'm ready to start charging rent.

Scotty I'm still wary of for the LC read, but I think in the end he's probably just town.


We only have two mischops left, so we need a correct POE of four players at this point.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:08 pm Going back to my previous thought- mafia is paying attention. I don’t think Epi is paying attention. He could be a mafia laying low while his partner pulls the strings, but he isn’t the ring leader here. The kill last night points to at least one mafia that has been active in thread

This really only eliminates a pairing of the following: Ricochet, Epignosis, falcon. As everyone else has been pretty active (even falcon to an extent).


As for Ricochet, I'd definitely consider him for a vote today. I don't think it's a stretch to say that his vote at the deadline was uninspiring. It's one thing to make an uninformed vote, or a hasty vote, but he seemed to try to force reasoning into it when he had none to give, which is kinda wolfy.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:37 pm Lime Coke is nowhere to be found! Lime Coke was the Bloodsealer's Skeletal!

Dizzy also never appeared the following morning. Dizzy was the Bloodsealer!

You have 48 hours to deliberate and find who did this! End of Day will be an hour later than normal because of my own awareness issues. Poll should be good to go now. Remember votes are locked and hammer is at 5. I will only count the first vote in the thread, but please have your vote in the poll match.

Tbh, I thought Scotty was the other PR based on his reaction to Lime Coke, but that theory was wrong.

I thought this post was Lime Coke trying to signal to Scotty that he knew what Scotty was, and Scotty's response was one coming from the The Bloodsealer acknowledging it.

But at least now I don't have to pretend like that's the case, now that this game is almost mountainous.

If Rico flips town, we go into day 2 in very much the same state we would leave day 1 in, and that's a non-optinal situation.

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[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Spicy vote.

Syn and LC are both voting him and two of my stronger townreads, yes I'm voting another townread. This is a weird game and I'm not confident in many vote options so I'm going here.

I'm stuck in urgent care getting a minor finger injury looked at so can't stick around or wait to vote.

Glgl

(Also need to make sure LC doesn't accidentally die)

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:55 pm Why dont yall just vote Epi lol.

I was considering it, but idk, scotty made good points on him.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:14 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:09 amDizzy is carefree, yet also tunneled Marmot, and has not interacted w/ Marmot much since that I've seen, and doesn't seem interested in re-evaluating

I thought it was pretty clear that I was reevaluating Marmot. I have not interacted much with most people.

I don't think it's obvious at all tbh, you acknowledged Sean's explanation of his townread, but still listed me as your probable vote for the day in your very next post.

Also, why did you just now change your mind about me? My flip on Scotty is probably my least explained read in the thread, and you think it's townier than all of the other wolfy things I've done? I don't get it.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:14 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:49 am Svs, please do better, you seem to have settled into snarky jabs at me instead of giving any good faith arguments and you're not gonna catch wolves that way (and it'll feel worse when you're proven wrong)

I wasn’t trying to be snarky, and I’m sorry if I came across this way. I am somewhat disappointed that you seem to be resorting to low posters on Day One, a busy day one that has had a lot of discussion.

You pinged me early and nothing you’ve done since has made me feel better

I always try to do better, and I will be sorry if I’m wrong. You’re a person, not a “slot” imo, but I think what I think.

Like I said, this was not my intention, but my POE which I thought was reasonable 12 hours ago was blown to pieces after the nutella/LC discourse, and I haven't had time to piece together a new one.

I was publicly sorting where I was at in that moment, and it happened to be that falcon/Rico were left in it. It might look bad in a vacuum to you, but it's just me showing my work of where I was at. My reads don't exist in a vacuum though, they've progressed throughout this whole day.

Anyway.


I'm obviously wrong somewhere and am trying to figure out where. Or I would if I had the time and the posts for it. Also, despite my previous disinclination to not vote Epi/Thunal/Dizzy, they've fallen into my POE because they're next on my list. I'm removing falcon for now because I think his recent posts are fairly townie.


@Seanzie not really a fan of chopping a 1-poster under the circumstances. I'd rather wait for a) him to post b) him to be modkilled c) him to be replaced.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:50 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:33 am 2 out of 2 now :wowee:

You've got 9 posts left...this one hardly seems like a wise choice, given that you've said you want to be around for EOD (will be back to vote & things later), and especially as it's somewhat ambiguous




I don't want you to use a post responding to this one btw




When you're able, would you mind talking about your Sean & Syn certainty?

To put it simply, they're both kinda polarized players, and aren't in their wolf meta.

To put it more eloquently:

Sean has had a little bit of bite in his pressure (particularly on me) in this game. That's townie for him. He's made observations that look fairly believable to me. Probably the one knock on him that could be wolfy is that his signals of who he might vote seems performative, but I'm not putting much stock in that because of the locked votes mechanic in the game. Talking about votes == placing a pressure vote in this game.

Syn often plays like a background player, being overly critical of things that catches his eye, generally not engaging players in extended discourse, but rather watching stating the things as they come. He's making reads that are not necessarily consensus. These are things that are somewhat townie for players in general, as they focus more on game-solving rather than trying to appear townie. I think they're particularly true for Syn because my (probably obsolete) meta expectation of him as a wolf is that he's extremely stilted and has trouble saying things in a way that looks like he believes them. If someone has different experience with w!Syn, or one that's more recent than 2020, I would love to hear it.

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But tbh, I'm not interested in chopping anyone in that list of 4 towncore I mentioned, so I'm not really into talking about them beyond this unless they become a viable wagon.


Do you have any opinions/preferences on Dizzy/Thunal/Epi?

Svs, please do better, you seem to have settled into snarky jabs at me instead of giving any good faith arguments and you're not gonna catch wolves that way (and it'll feel worse when you're proven wrong)

That's not where I expected to be at this moment. I had LC, nutella and scotty there last night when I went to bed. LC is locktown now. Scotty is probably town. Nutella is still kinda poe but probably town as well.

I don't have time to redeliberate. But also I'm probably going to die today so it might not even matter, but it's for the best because I'll be pretty afk day 2 anyway