The Syndicate

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:If llama really is "Balls deep", he's just going to survive tomorrow's lynch too, at least by my estimate. Would it be more worth it to try and lynch him again, or pursue other options for now? I'm not too sure right now, but I'd like some more input.

And this is why night time is hiding time.

Ripiywg, Metalmarsh! I hope you'll continue to play other games here!

So yeah, I'm sticking with Llama fo sho today.

Flyin' High wrote:I voted john because I honestly wasn't getting civvie vibes from him. My vote had nothing to do with llama. I was pinged by john's Day 1 comments and still felt those pings Day 2. Being wrong is a real bitch, but unfortunately it happens in mafia.

As for llama, at this point it is definitely looking more like he does have a team that is helping him. But before I jump to 100% conclusions, I want to read through the roles to look at all of the possibilities.

A) The lynch was a tie according to DH:
The final vote tally on the poll was 3 Sorsha v. 4 llama
So for it to be a tie, someone had to put a 4th vote on Sorsha
As far as I can tell, the only extra vote available was the penis envy prize
So assuming no unwritten game secrets, whoever won that prize put it on Sorsha

B) DH broke the tie in favor of lynching llama and llama survived
No civvie roles had been assigned yet so his survival was either to do unknown unwritten game secrets or being part of a mafia team
Possible roles that could survive a lynch are:
Firing a rifle into the air while balls deep in a squealing hog: Your gunfire causes other players to leave you alone. Your beastiality causes them to leave you even further alone. You survive the first two attempts (lynch or NKs) on your life.

The taint; the grundle; the fleshy fun-bridge: You’re stuck between the dick and the asshole. No one wants to join you, so you’ll survive the first attempt on your life. Once in the game, you may pick 5 players, and force them to discuss what they call this area of the human body, making their votes worth 0, or roleblocking them if used at night. If you use it during a lynch, it cannot be used in conjunction with the one time ability of Pixelated Bukkake.

Or maybe the indy role since we have no clue what their powers may be?
The Balancer: SECRET ROLE

Occam's Razor does seem to point to llama being bad based on surviving Day 1.

C) llama had 8 votes to john's 6 votes in the Day 2 poll, but john ended up lynched
Possible explanations include:
Someone used the lynch switch Day 2
Switcher (Passive): One lynch switch. You do not get other powers until this has been used. You may not opt out of having this power. The player you switch the lynch to must have at least 1 public vote.

The person with the stacked deck happened to pick cards that john had raising the votes he started with (this is highly unlikely because they'd have to have picked 3 cards john had and chances of that seem slim to none)
Stacked Deck (Passive): You may trade in any amount of your white cards, for other white cards of your choice. If another player has the white card(s) you choose, you will get a different card, and that player or players will start the following lynch with +1 vote for every card you picked that they hold. You may get other powers while holding this card. You may opt out of having this power, allowing someone else to get it. If you are killed why you hold this card, it automatically transfers to a random player you could not have won with.

Perhaps the thief attempted to steal an awesome point from john knowing he didn't have any which made him start at +2 votes, but this would have resulted in a tie and no one has mentioned there being another tie
Thief: You may pick another player, and steal 1 Awesome Point from them. If they have no Awesome Points, they start the next lynch at +2 votes.

The midgets and the smegma targeted john Night 1 (but again, like with the thief this would have resulted in a tie, not john straight up getting lynched so I find this unlikely)
Two midgets shitting into a bucket: Each night, you may pick another player to empty your bucket of shit on to. This will put them at +1 vote in every lynch from then on. You may not pick the same player again until three other players have had your bucket dumped on them.
Smegma: Each night, you may share your... dirt with another player. This will put them at +1 vote in every lynch from then on. You may not pick the same player again until three other players have had your dirt shared with them.

The explanation I find the most likely is that the Pixelated Bukkake voted for john
Pixelated Bukkake: Once in the game, you may pick up to half of all currently living players, and force them to vote for a player of your choice. Your lynch vote is worth 2, and every player you do not have BTSC with who votes for the same player you do has .5 added to their vote total (to a maximum of 3 extra votes on the person, or 6 people voting for them). This +.5 does not occur during the lynch you force votes. Kill on even nights.

My current thinking is this: I think thellama is the Taint. (when am I ever gonna get to say that again!? ) He survived Day 1 due to his role. Day 2 the Pixelated Bukkake + llamataint voted for john. The other two teammates voted elsewhere.

The breakdown of votes against would look like this:
Player 1 (Pixelated Bukkake) vote worth 2
Player 2 (llamataint) vote worth 1
Player 3 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 4 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 5 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 6 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Total = 9 votes
That would have caused john to be lynched over llama yesterday.

If this is what happened, then llama should be vulnerable tomorrow since the taint can only survive one lynch.

With all of this in mind, a possible alternative explanation for Day 1 is that llama and two of his teammates (one of which is the Pixelated Bukkake) voted for Sorsha which caused the tie.

Flyin' High wrote:Gonna have to take another look at roles to see how that could have happened. And damn, RIP john. Sorry to have been wrong.

S~V~S wrote:Sorry to be such a fail today. I could see both sides of this John v Llama thing, or at least I could this AM. U have not had time to read and will not be home in time to do so. So I am gonna self vote, I do not feel confident in making any other vote.

Mister Rearranger wrote:I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.

DharmaHelper wrote:Your comments regarding this tie business seem a little aggressive, to me. A little manufactured as well.

thellama73 wrote:Well I don't like the looks of this one bit.

johns2jj wrote:No civ can lock into a power AFAIK without three awesome points. No one should be able to have 3 awesome points yet. To survive a lynch you have to be bad, or have hidden votes against you allowing the lynch to fall on another. If the lynch actually should of fallen on another then my vote is misplaced but I believe I am not acting in error. Only time will tell one way or the other.

Flyin' High wrote:For future reference, there is a place to click "see results without voting" (or some such phrasing) below the poll to allow you to see votes without having to vote yourself.

And as someone who tends to obsess over voting records I am in agreement with llama on this. Sure, john's behavior doesn't 100% condemn him as a baddie, but I wouldn't frame it as innocent either.

thellama73 wrote:

FZ. wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Also, if it makes you feel any better, I am much more confident that I put my vote in the right place yesterday by selecting John (I know I changed it, but that was purely self-defense.) One of the things I find most suspicious is someone deliberately trying to craft their vote record to convey as little info as possible. I expect I will be voting for him again tomorrow.

Actually, it doesn't I don't see what you're seeing in John. How exactly is he crafting his vote record to do what you're suggesting he's doing?

Civvies use vote records to track down baddies. Whenever someone deliberately avoids allowing his vote record to provide useful information, as John outright stated he was doing, it smells of baddie tactics to me. Civvies vote for those they think are bad. Baddies vote in ways that cannot be used to track them down later.

thellama73 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote: I know I'm a new face, but hey, I still find it odd that my name hasn't been thrown around at all today. Maybe it's because y'all are feeling me out as much as I'm doing to you? I also am used to playing much more aggressive players where regardless if you're new, you'll probably get pegged by someone.

Oh, and you're shifty.

Believe me, I would be perfectly happy for you to detract some attention away from me.

insertnamehere wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Day one is always a hard vote for me so I'm just going to go with my gut and vote FZ

Actually, I'm flattered, lol. I think people weren't even paying attention to me in the first two games. I don't think I ever got a vote. So I guess it means I'm not a newbie anymore

That's me right now.

Hey guy's, Metalmarsh is looking really shifty right now.

FZ. wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Day one is always a hard vote for me so I'm just going to go with my gut and vote FZ

Actually, I'm flattered, lol. I think people weren't even paying attention to me in the first two games. I don't think I ever got a vote. So I guess it means I'm not a newbie anymore

thellama73 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote: So you don't think anything of DH backing you up, or do you believe in the fairness too?

I already told you. DH and I are best friends. We will always back one another up.

thellama73 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dom wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

kneel4justice wrote:Shoot! I forgot this was a speed game and I thought we had until Wednesday to make a decision. I probably will not be able to participate much if at all before deadline, I have assignments due. I'm currently posting on my phone.
BWT caught my eye, saying he has been more fluffy but he wasn't worried because there is plenty of time. Plenty of time?? Where is this time and where can I get some? Especially if you haven't truly started yet. IGMEOY
Llama, did you see my suspicion? Are you the type to respond or ignore suspicion? Can anyone give some input on this?

Llama is flopping between this game and Game of Champs so take that into consideration.

Is there a reason why you just gave Llama an excuse?

Because fairness.

DH and I are best friends, Dom. Don't try to come between us.

Epignosis wrote:Hell, I'm not participating at all. And nobody is calling me on it?

kneel4justice wrote:
Yeah, it is hard to be aggressive here because it is not well received and it sparks no real conversation, people kind of ignore it and continue to post OT or shame it. Plus, when the majority of people are just joking around, there's nothing to be aggressive about and I won't be a broken record and nag about a lack of scum hunting every game I play here. So I am just waiting for that to pick up. As far as what has caught my eye, just the few things I have pointed out, right now the main thing would be Llama's reference to his track record. I believe it was MP who did that in WWE, probably what you're thinking of. SVS and her explanation kind of calmed my initial wonder of her excuse, but I am still wary because while she explained it more in depth my initial problem was that the explanations may be excuses/scummy reasoning rather than the best intentions.

I cannot remember but I am reading Dom and find her fluffy, and I don't remember him (?) like that but I may be thinking of later stages in the game.
Epi's absence is alarming.

DharmaHelper wrote: @Boo am I picking between those D0 ones or does everyone have to submit another card?

insertnamehere wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Do too have one, I laugh a lot and so do those who know me well~ but I have been lynched SO MANY TIMES for blowing off a question i thought was a joke, lol. For me suspicions are srs bsns, and if someone asks me a question i do them the courtesy of assuming they are serious.

The fact that you take suspicions so seriously makes me very suspicious of you.

DharmaHelper wrote:Blue. B-L-U-E 4 letters but two vowels what the fuck.

What kind of fucked up satanic twisted psycho bitch word has 50% vowels. That's demonic shit right there and I does NOT fucks with no demons.

DharmaHelper wrote:Are we allowed to be tastefully offensive without using cards? :P

Epignosis wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Try to get awesome points so you can lock into a cool role otherwise the roles switch each night. That's what I'm going with.

Is that what the kids are calling them now?

I remember they used to call them "cool points." If you did something awkward or stupid, they'd say, "Gimmie 10 cool points, bro."

Ah, the 90s.