The Syndicate

And thanks Spacedaisy, creator of said banner.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Banners are here! Thanks to Spacedaisy.

Thanks. don't mind if I do.

thellama73 wrote:I deserve the blame for this loss. I got in my own head and pushed scotty when I should have trusted going after Splints. Sorry, team.

What are you talking about? The civilians aren't a team.

Scotty wrote:Such is my luck here.

Good game baddies! Was I right in assuming Phoebe was a turncloak should she find Monty? And did Golden slip when he said Dom was Phoebe?

I have a few questions but I am at work for a while and can't formulate them right now.

I tried to protect llama last night but my save was redirected. I was supa pissed.

It's unfortunate that neither llama not Sorsha believed me earlier, but I'll take it as a learning experience.

I was completely serious that if I didn't win this I would leave. I will finish up what I have going on right now here, but this game is affecting my life too much and it's been quite fruitless. Maybe I'll be back after an extended break. I'll never truly leave, but I think I'm just burned out.

Golden absolutely slipped. I was kind of yelling at him in the chatroom when I saw that post. :P

Roxy wrote:You. people are foolish

No, I'm just dead.

thellama73 wrote:Who wants to vote first? Honestly, the last few posts have me feeling better about SPlints and worse about Roxy. I am starting to second guess myself and wonder if I am being rolled by Scotty.

I already voted.

Rezz please.

thellama73 wrote:Reminder to the gang that there are three living baddies, so don't spread the vote out or they can vote in a bloc and be tied with the civilians tomorrow after their NK.

I think llama slipped in this post. I thought Golden was his teammate, but I believe llama admitted otherwise.

Scotty wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Scotty wrote:Bye Golden!

I mean I was kind of hoping that I could see what Golden's alignment was, since it was partly influencing my decisions over llama and sorsha. Oh well.

However.

Sorsha being saved again is leading me to believe that she is very much good. No tomfoolery there.

I think both MM and llama bring up compelling points against each other. I saw Dom the lynch going towards MM today anyway, but do not want to discount llama of trying to force civ hands.

linki- well if we're trying to kill monty, you should vote for MM, @Dom.
Please explain why you think I am Monty.

I have tied for the lead in two lynches, yes, but this implies that I was not the victim in at least one of them.
Because of host error, I don't think Dom is Monty. I don't think Sorsha is, because she's survived twice. To me, that leaves you or llama. And you seemed to be the consensus vote yesterday. I'm honestly not trusting you of llama, but I don't know if Golden was bad, which is futzing with my reads. Granted, I might as well be dipping my toast in light fluid, because my reads have been crap at best this game.

And I don't know what you mean by victim. You mean civ? The first one you tied for went to another person, the second just happened. The only victim in the equation is my clarity.

I will most likely vote you, but it is on the basis of running with llama. I don't like how he's buddied up to Elo in the past day. So.. I want to vote both of you.

By victim, I mean the lynch was tied, but one person was chosen to be lynched (whether they died or not).

Scotty wrote:Bye Golden!

I mean I was kind of hoping that I could see what Golden's alignment was, since it was partly influencing my decisions over llama and sorsha. Oh well.

However.

Sorsha being saved again is leading me to believe that she is very much good. No tomfoolery there.

I think both MM and llama bring up compelling points against each other. I saw Dom the lynch going towards MM today anyway, but do not want to discount llama of trying to force civ hands.

linki- well if we're trying to kill monty, you should vote for MM, @Dom.

Please explain why you think I am Monty.

I have tied for the lead in two lynches, yes, but this implies that I was not the victim in at least one of them.

thellama73 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Reminder to the gang that there are three living baddies, so don't spread the vote out or they can vote in a bloc and be tied with the civilians tomorrow after their NK.
How are you so certain that Golden is not a baddie?
I didn't realize he had been killed by a civvie until you brought this up and I looked at the roles. You may remember me not really reading the role list from earlier.

I recall some other things you said earlier that were a result of "Oh, I'm just not really paying attention".

thellama73 wrote:Reminder to the gang that there are three living baddies, so don't spread the vote out or they can vote in a bloc and be tied with the civilians tomorrow after their NK.

How are you so certain that Golden is not a baddie?

Bye Golden. I think that was the right choice.

Linki: Reciprocated

Who set a bear loose in the ballroom?

Poll ended at Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:45 pm

Dom
0
No votes

Elohcin
2
Sorsha (5), Golden (7)
22%

Fingersplints
0
No votes

Golden
1
Scotty (4)
11%

Llama
1
Metalmarsh89 (3)
11%

MM
2
thellama73 (6), Elohcin (8)
22%

Roxy
0
No votes

Scotty
0
No votes

Sorsha
1
Roxy (9)
11%

Host/Dead/Non
2
DFaraday (1), MovingPictures07 (2)
22%

thellama73 wrote:
Roxy wrote:But do you think elo is bad?
I wouldn't agree to vote for her if I didn't.

Says the llama who voted for someone on Day 1 for reasons other than thinking that player was bad.

Scotty wrote:Pssssshaaa as an addendum to my last post, I assume that one of Dom/Sorsha/Llama is Monty. But which one is it? I mean, mafia wouldn't attack Monty at night just to prove a point, would they?

Also, if the show is any indication, Phoebe Dysquith could be someone that could be a Benedict Arnold. She is one of his love interests in a triangle of sorts, after all.

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You know what else is actually really bothering me? Golden has only 35 posts this game, and it's Day 5. Granted, it's not like there's a bevy of posts thus far, but it seems out of character.

Can anyone tell me a game in which Golden has had so few votes? Can anyone vouch for his activity when he is a baddie?

Well, you didn't it appears. You just said Phoebe could be a Benedict.

Linki: I'd already voted llama.

Scotty wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote: Dom was un-nightkilled, wasn't he?
Yes, but I just read back and don't see anywhere Dom's role revealed when the host reset the dominoes.

Nightkills aren't revealed on this site (unless it's TSM).

Where did you say that Dom was Phoebe?

Scotty wrote:
Golden wrote:Scotty, I've read your case and...

It's a good one. I can see why you find it convincing, and I might too.

But you are wrong. I'm not on a team with llama. And if you want to know what my baddie game meta is, its to not defend my teammates and leave clear trails back to them.

Take that how you will. I think there is a good chance llama is bad, but I am not.

If it was Llama and Eloh, who are viable third possibilities? MM, scotty, fingersplints. I think it is three out of that 5 in any event.

I don't think Roxy or Sorsha or Dom.

linki - because dom was revealed as being phoebe?
wait what? I missed that. Where was that revealed?

Dom was un-nightkilled, wasn't he?

I'm surprised that I am actually still leading the post count.

thellama73 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I don't know which roles are bad and which are good since there is no role list on the front page. Does this mean Greybonez was good? That is a shame, then. You guys should have listened to me about MM.
What are you talking about? There's a role list on the front page.
Oh, there is now. There wasn't the last time I looked.

There was definitely one at this point. But maybe DF doesn't like such standard hosting methods.

thellama73 wrote:I don't know which roles are bad and which are good since there is no role list on the front page. Does this mean Greybonez was good? That is a shame, then. You guys should have listened to me about MM.

What are you talking about? There's a role list on the front page.

Golden: suddenly inserted my name into a team of players with no prior suspicion or even mention of me (aside from a few questions to me).

Spoiler: show

Scotty: continues to voice suspicion of me, but with nothing to back it up. At one point, he made the comment that "MM just feels different", but nothing more than that. Like Golden, he also inserted my name into a team of players.

Spoiler: show

Scotty wrote:If I had to pick the 3rd teammate of llama and greybonez, I'd probably pick MM. Just on a hunch.

But I still do want to hear the thought process from greybonez. This may not implicate llama at all, since there were five of us with 1 vote at the time.

Scotty wrote:RIP TH. I dont really understand why people voted you.

I'm also slightly perturbed that Llama and greyboneZ only received one vote each. MM I can get behind, but I'm sticking with my opinion that if greyboneZ flips bad, so does llama. It just fits.

I don't know if Llama slipped in his wording or not, but I can assure him that my "coming after" him is definitely self motivated, since I am not on a "team" (according to his definition of a civ). I want a civ victory here and for some reason we're lynching the wrong ones.

Scotty wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Greybonez wrote:Lacey, same as last time, plus don't have a read on who's a baddie
I don't trust you.
You should have voted him.

Also if I could place another vote it would have been for MM.

Scotty wrote:
Dom wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Golden wrote:Llama could also be asquith sr.
I think this is more likely than him being Monty.

I do want MM or greyboneZ lynched next. Can we do that next time?
why
I think I've been pretty vocal about greyboneZ since day 2 (or day 1, I'm losing track of the time)

MM feels different* this game than the games I've known him as civ.

He's not as vague, for one. He really wanted that llama lynch. He didn't seem all that excited about you coming back.

I appreciate that you're asking me questions but it's been a few days since you were almost killed. Who do you find suspicious?

Scotty wrote:
Golden wrote:Greybonez/MM/Eloh would make sense to me as a team. Scotty is bothering me, though, in that his views just changed a lot from being llama to now being greybonez/eloh team. I almost wonder if it could be Greybonez/Scotty/MM and if scotty is setting up the lynch of one of his own so that he can turn it on to Eloh tomorrow. Also, from day one greybonez/llama still makes a decent amount of sense.

Anyway, putting that all together I think a greybonez vote is the way to go, I'm on board.
When new information is presented, opinions can change.

I like how you're setting up that in the case of greyboneZ flipping bad, I could possibly be his teammate. I've been on his ass since the Epi lynch. That'd be pretty ballsy of me naming my top suspect as my teammate all game.

And to be clear, llama isn't classified as good in my radar. I just think there are statistically more roles that could have stopped his death yesterday.

But I see that you have agreed with my choices of GreyboneZ/Elo and possibly MM. So apparently we're on the same page there.

What do you think of llama?

thellama73: Same deal. Has mentioned wanting to vote for me multiple times, but only backed it up with a vote once. This happened yesterday in retaliation of my vote for him.

Spoiler: show

birdwithteeth: He did vote for me yesterday, but suddenly was not interested today.

Spoiler: show

Addendum: I still think llama is bad, and Golden as well.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why do people keeping throwing my name around but not voting for me?
Do you want the attention? Do you want me to vote for you? Or do you just want someone to acknowledge your small, pathetic existence as you look back and realize you're 10+ years from accomplishing any of your life's goals and ambitions?

Do you want me to be nicer to you? Do you want some ice cream?
I'm not that far from accomplishing things...
Accomplishing what? What are these "things" you speak of? Does it encompass all of your happiness? Are you hungry? Would you like some pancakes with strawberries and cinnamon on top? How about an iced tea with it? Are you getting tired of all these questions?

Never mind.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why do people keeping throwing my name around but not voting for me?
Do you want the attention? Do you want me to vote for you? Or do you just want someone to acknowledge your small, pathetic existence as you look back and realize you're 10+ years from accomplishing any of your life's goals and ambitions?

Do you want me to be nicer to you? Do you want some ice cream?

I'm not that far from accomplishing things...

Why do people keeping throwing my name around but not voting for me?

Scotty wrote:
Dom wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Golden wrote:Llama could also be asquith sr.
I think this is more likely than him being Monty.

I do want MM or greyboneZ lynched next. Can we do that next time?
why
I think I've been pretty vocal about greyboneZ since day 2 (or day 1, I'm losing track of the time)

MM feels different* this game than the games I've known him as civ.

He's not as vague, for one. He really wanted that llama lynch. He didn't seem all that excited about you coming back.

I appreciate that you're asking me questions but it's been a few days since you were almost killed. Who do you find suspicious?

Yes, I wanted that lynch very badly. You're confusing me.

Hi, I'm here. What did I miss?

Welcome fingersplints. Good to have you in this gentleman's game.

Sorry I have been quite absent. I will try to be less quite absent.

Way to keep living on llama.

I'm voting llama today because I don't believe a word that comes out of that mustache.

My activity will take a nosedive. Classes just began today.

Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm voting TH. I don't find Roxy suspicious at all, she's just not interested. I am certainly not voting for myself today.

Linki: well I agree with you about Roxy, Spacedaisy.
But do you agree with her about me?

Would it really matter either way?

Linki: Deja Vu.

I'm voting TH. I don't find Roxy suspicious at all, she's just not interested. I am certainly not voting for myself today.

Linki: well I agree with you about Roxy, Spacedaisy.

Elohcin wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think I'm just going to hold on to my vote for now.
Don't fall asleep

Unfortunately, I am sober. Fortunately, it's not even 9:00 yet.

TH, is Sorsha's suspicion misplaced?

I think I'm just going to hold on to my vote for now.

Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Sorry guys I haven't had any time for mafia today. Going into today I expected to vote for Golden but after sleeping on it and seeing his recent posts I think his suspicion of me is genuine - and this was one of my problems with him, I didn't feel like his suspicions/opinions were genuine. I'll look into him more tomorrow and respond to some of his observations about me and talk about what some of my concerns were, but I'm tabling my suspicion of him for now.

I'm voting Metalmarsh... again, but this time it's FOR REAL. I'm okay with Elo's observation about Llama, I think it was a "slip" worth bringing up and looking into... it's Metalmarsh's harping on the slip that I take issue with. His first post towards Llama is fine, his second reiteration of the point looks like someone trying to be opportunistic about a poor choice of words. It's something I expect more from baddie Marsh than a civvie one.

I also think Greybonez's vote and explanation is suspicious as hell but I don't know him well enough to decide if it's disingenuous and I don't have time to look into it.
You need to read the fine print bub.
Yeah I read it. It only made me suspect you more because, whether you were interested in benefiting from Llama's "slip" or not, it's the only thing you've talked about toDay

I'm not interested in taking advantage of it. I was feeding llama some of his own medicine. I realize that might not be the most constructive use of my posts.

People used to ridicule me for self-voting. Now it has become strangely popular. I won't be voting Roxy though. I want to give her another chance.

Linki: I must be the only person who has talked about one thing today.

Turnip Head wrote:Sorry guys I haven't had any time for mafia today. Going into today I expected to vote for Golden but after sleeping on it and seeing his recent posts I think his suspicion of me is genuine - and this was one of my problems with him, I didn't feel like his suspicions/opinions were genuine. I'll look into him more tomorrow and respond to some of his observations about me and talk about what some of my concerns were, but I'm tabling my suspicion of him for now.

I'm voting Metalmarsh... again, but this time it's FOR REAL. I'm okay with Elo's observation about Llama, I think it was a "slip" worth bringing up and looking into... it's Metalmarsh's harping on the slip that I take issue with. His first post towards Llama is fine, his second reiteration of the point looks like someone trying to be opportunistic about a poor choice of words. It's something I expect more from baddie Marsh than a civvie one.

I also think Greybonez's vote and explanation is suspicious as hell but I don't know him well enough to decide if it's disingenuous and I don't have time to look into it.

You need to read the fine print bub.

Welcome back Dom. Way to survive that kill that you didn't survive.

Roxy wrote:I do not want to play if people are doing shit just to piss each off tbh.

I was joking because llama said he wanted to piss you off.

thellama73 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I said he's not on my team, because I don't have a team. Duh.
But you said "my team".
I said "not" on my team. Because I don't have a team. If I say "No one is one my team" that doesn't imply that I have a team, just as if I say "greybonez is not on my team" doesn't imply that. I don't believe that everyone in this game cannot understand that, so I assume there are a couple of baddies among my accusers.

But you said "my team".

I just want to piss you off.

thellama73 wrote:I said he's not on my team, because I don't have a team. Duh.

But you said "my team".

Spacedaisy wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:These players missed the vote.

Epignosis
lipsticklacey
Spacedaisy

at two of those.
Which two?

I missed it because I was entertaining an out of town guest. Sorry guys.
The two who had already posted in this game and who are pretty prompt players.
I assume one was me because I posted once then...

Emphasis on the "pretty"

I would never expect Epignosis to vote on time.

Spacedaisy wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:These players missed the vote.

Epignosis
lipsticklacey
Spacedaisy

at two of those.
Which two?

I missed it because I was entertaining an out of town guest. Sorry guys.

The two who had already posted in this game and who are pretty prompt players.

Maybe I'll start things off with a vote for TH.

DFaraday wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
DFaraday wrote:Remember, only 20 more minutes to send in PMs!
Sounds like someone hasn't sent a PM in yet.
I believe all PMs are in now. Night post upcoming.

I'm liking this new mechanic here on the Syndicate.

DFaraday wrote:Remember, only 20 more minutes to send in PMs!

Sounds like someone hasn't sent a PM in yet.

Scotty wrote:

Scotty wrote:If I had to pick the 3rd teammate of llama and greybonez, I'd probably pick MM. Just on a hunch.

But I still do want to hear the thought process from greybonez. This may not implicate llama at all, since there were five of us with 1 vote at the time.

I take responsibility for my vote. I felt my ego take a small hit when Epignosis made his retort yesterday.

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