The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oh, and Frisky Dingo (5 mafia members).

So make that 0 for 6.

The Dingo baddies would have won had they not pissed the Indies off.

But I had forgottenhowe many single mafia games we have had. Maybe because I try to avoid those games,although i still play my share.

I think the same thing happened in Harry Stephen Keeler too. :P

I didn't even look at the Speed Games. I guess there could be more cases either way, but I also didn't think there would be any instance of 5 mafia members in a 19 player game.

All of these games represent a single mafia team scenario though. So here's a look at the civilian:mafia ratio of those games.

Biblical - 25:5
Talking Heads - 26:7
Harry Stephen Keeler - 15:5
Roger Rabbit - 13:5
Syndicate Mafia - 17:7
Frisky Dingo - 12:5
X-Men - 16:7


But of course these don't account for the Indy/neutral players or teams that are also involved in such games, as those are always present.

Oh, and Frisky Dingo (5 mafia members).

So make that 0 for 6.

S~V~S wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

sig wrote:I don't see a nine person mafia team with BTSC to be a problem. I find that the larger the team is the easier it is to make links and connections. It only takes lynching one baddie to catch the rest. The larger the team the more likely it is that one will slip up. Not to mention it would be harder to plan. So I don't see an issue with a nine man BTSC team. If anything it would be harder for the mafia.

In a vanilla setup with 19 civilians and just 6 Mafia, the civilians have a 8.51% chance of winning. 19v9 is an instant win under such a setup.

I have not seen a mafia team of larger than 4 players (barring recruitment of some sort) win on this site.

How many baddie teams of more than 4 have you seen in any game on this site?

A few with a standard mafia team: Syndicate Mafia (7) Talking Heads (7), X-Men (7), Biblical (5), Harry Stephen Keeler (5). The civilians won three of these games, and an independent team the other 2 (X-Men and Syndicate). I don't know about the games before X-Men though because I wasn't around, but a look at the Hall-of-Fame shows no teams of more than 4 mafia members won a game.

But here are games with a non-standard large mafia team that did win.

• Death Note: There were seven members of mafia, but each player had a separate win condition, and the team started the game mostly without BTSC. Thus not all of the mafia won.
  The Flash: Another game with a baddie team of 6 players, but the teammates not only started without BTSC, but they didn't know who their teammates where at the start. Also, only the mafia members who survived won.
  Fight Club: I don't really know how this game worked, but it looks like a recruitment type game, and so mafia started with a single member. In the end, 10 players were on the winning mafia team.
  Recruitment IV: 5 members on the winning mafia team, but again, this was a recruitment game, so the game began with only one member on the winning faction.

So mafia teams that start with 5 or more members and BTSC are 0 for 5 in the last two years.

Epignosis wrote:

sig wrote:I don't see a nine person mafia team with BTSC to be a problem. I find that the larger the team is the easier it is to make links and connections. It only takes lynching one baddie to catch the rest. The larger the team the more likely it is that one will slip up. Not to mention it would be harder to plan. So I don't see an issue with a nine man BTSC team. If anything it would be harder for the mafia.

In a vanilla setup with 19 civilians and just 6 Mafia, the civilians have a 8.51% chance of winning. 19v9 is an instant win under such a setup.

I have not seen a mafia team of larger than 4 players (barring recruitment of some sort) win on this site.