The Syndicate

i mean i see it a lot and it bugs me each time and makes me feel like maybe i'm just bad at the game but i'm starting to think that maybe it's just you guys that have been wrong this whole time?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:38 pmEpi, my problem with Kykeis he spent more time apparently defending and helping a 3P than he did scum hunting. And I still think he trusted me very easily at the beginning of the game. But much like lapluie, with him it’s less what he did wrong and more what he didn’t do much at all.

i have an issue with this incorrect thing that people keep saying, because it's a misrepresentation of my efforts, i've spent time scumhunting, the only reason it looks like i've spent more time with turnip head is because it's what i've discussed more, because it was something i was uniquely in a position to discuss, and something i needed to convince others of, since i wanted to make sure he was dealt with in what i thought was the right way.

i've spent time figuring out how i feel about players other than turnip head. and posted my reads, they're not in paragraph form because they didn't need to be, because i pretty much always tend towards reading other players and deciding how i feel about them and how best to proceed more often than telling other people what the best thing to do is.

is anyone interested

it's time for.mm......... trustfalls I think

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] would we be informed of lylo

ok well the good news is, assuming a mafia team of 4, we're gauranteed to have lynched at least one mafia by now otherwise the game would be over.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:33 pm Is Squidward a time traveler ... ?

yeah squidward time travels once

omg he was actually telling the truth

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:02 pm You’re all wrong, tomatoes suck

They’re gross and taste like mineral water’s shitty cousin

who do you think you are

I'm sorry

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:57 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:48 pm Tomato and avocado and hard cheese with salt and pepper on the tomato and a tiny bit of mayo or something makes for a hectic toast sandwich (not a toasted sandwich, a sandwich in which the bread is toast).

Wait, you can eat things without meat in them?

tomato is basically a type of meat, you fool

with goat cheese

do you guys have any other good tomato ideas? I love tomato and basil and some balsamic obviously.

fuck dude that sounds great

so you should try one if you get a chance

tomatoes are my favorite fruit and my favorite vegetable too

i just want u to know

if I die tonight ..........

like..... irl, are you okay

[mention]Turnip Head[/mention] are you doing alright

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:09 pmI'm relaxed

My point was that you seemed to indicate believing Mac, Epi and Scotty over me but you seem to not think that, so now we are on the same page w/r/t what you believe.

on another note "oops all ____" is a very trendy way of saying things and i value trendiness over accuracy at all times with basically no exceptions.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:10 pm Oh wait, what I meant to say was FUCK YOU KYLE YOU PIECE OF GARBAGE, that was a typo

lol love you colin

I point out that turnip head's indie-ness is an unverified claim, everything else about turnip head is something I know for sure. The fact that we are masons is a definite.

the fact that I am a time mage is a definite fact that I know for certain.

"oops all doctors" and the fact that there are 3 of them should be enough for juliets to figure out on her own that
hey maybe something's weird there, along with the fact that doctors don't normally roleclaim.

everything relating to golden's claims with Scotty and spacedaisy are listed as possiblity based on Juliets rolecard that she can verify for herself.

your role claim is not related to anything or anyone else and hasn't been demonstrated in thread so it's also still ambiguous and unverified, so plz relax.

colin did you even read that fucking post lol

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:38 pmHell yes I'm only saying it because it affects me the most.

yes that's what I said you're doing

I disagree with the second paragraph in that it would not make sense for me to want to target Turnip Head specifically like that, out of everyone in the game, and especially at that juncture. I'm sure there is a tinfoilly way to make it make sense but that's ... not the case.

there's a part of me that thinks that if Luna and sig weren't mafia the real mafia are the players who've taken the strategy of "hey let's just happen to be around to counterclaim people's claims early and nothing bad will happen cus this game will be pretty short and no one would suspect it". maybe that's tinfoil, but it's why i downgraded your "is" to a "says". there's nothing backing up your claim so to state it like it's a known and proven thread fact would be inaccurate

You're on the list.

your list seems to have a low threshold then

nice

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:38 pmHell yes I'm only saying it because it affects me the most.

yes that's what I said you're doing

I disagree with the second paragraph in that it would not make sense for me to want to target Turnip Head specifically like that, out of everyone in the game, and especially at that juncture. I'm sure there is a tinfoilly way to make it make sense but that's ... not the case.

there's a part of me that thinks that if Luna and sig weren't mafia the real mafia are the players who've taken the strategy of "hey let's just happen to be around to counterclaim people's claims early and nothing bad will happen cus this game will be pretty short and no one would suspect it". maybe that's tinfoil, but it's why i downgraded your "is" to a "says". there's nothing backing up your claim so to state it like it's a known and proven thread fact would be inaccurate

You're on the list.

your list seems to have a low threshold then

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:12 pmWhat is a mixmason? And Kyle have you said what the Christmas time ghost does?

mixmasons means we're mason's but with no up front gaurantee if being the same alignment. TH claimed indie so he's not civ, so mixmasons.

Also Kyle I don't quite get the meaning of this sentence:
"scotty and spacedaisy and I think someone else are all town if you have a town role card, if you don't then who knows I guess"

You think someone else are all town? who? Or is there a word or two missing from the sentence?

scotty and spacedaisy were cleared by golden who turned into you, so if you're civ then they're probably civ as well. I think there was another player involved in that but I don't remember who.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:06 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:58 pm epignosis, scotty, and mac are oops all doctors

scotty and spacedaisy and I think someone else are all town if you have a town role card, if you don't then who knows i guess

turnip head and i are mixmasons and he's claimed an indie with a predict 2 elections win condition, it's like this whole thing. we'll hopefully resolve it tonight.

I am the christmas time ghost warlock played by, Michael Caine.

colin says he's a guy who gets an extra vote when he predicts night votes

sig and luna wree hopefully mafia but maybe they weren't and we're fucked but hopefully they were and we're doing fine but who knows

those are the main points.

Looks an awful lot like you're maybe taking advantage of whatever the prevailing narratives are in the thread and easily trusting other people for reasons unclear to me, bud

you're only saying that cus it specifically effects you the most

your claim is unverified and not actually backed up by anyone or any evidence, and i think if turnip head turns out to have been telling the truth it's a non zero possibility that you made up your role claim just to make his sound worse. "you get an extra vote if you can guess the night poll result" is as much of an absurd role as turnips' claimed role. do you disagree with that?

do you suspect me, colin

is Ebenezer Scrooge a warlock? he communes with demons but like.... it was the demons' choice. They definitely made the first move.

[mention]juliets[/mention]

epignosis, scotty, and mac are oops all doctors

scotty and spacedaisy and I think someone else are all town if you have a town role card, if you don't then who knows i guess

turnip head and i are mixmasons and he's claimed an indie with a predict 2 elections win condition, it's like this whole thing. we'll hopefully resolve it tonight.

I am the christmas time ghost warlock played by, Michael Caine.

colin says he's a guy who gets an extra vote when he predicts night votes

sig and luna wree hopefully mafia but maybe they weren't and we're fucked but hopefully they were and we're doing fine but who knows

those are the main points.

[mention]juliets[/mention] hi

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:36 am Idk how to feel about Kyle changing his tune on Turnip Head either but I don’t see why he would suddenly think it’s not a “waste of resources” to lynch him especially if he’s not even trying to coordinate to get his wincon as Kyle attested.

in that moment i was feeling really unsure about the sig lynch. turnip head seemed like a decent low damage just in case alternative. I feel a little better about how the sig lynch went now, if I'd been around to post I don't think I'd have made the same choice

did you say what your power was? the one that gets charged up by guessing election results?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:46 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:59 am i can pull people's last night actions into tonight, and make them happen now instead of then

Wait, are you saying you can do this or have done this, or both? Can I suggest using it on someone you really suspect of being bad? Because if you happen to hit a baddie carrying out the vanishing, it will be delayed and you'll know it was them when it shows up tomorrow with two vanishings instead.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:39 am scotty I think? in hopes of doctoring whoever his night 1 target was again

No wait, I think I am misunderstanding. So you can basically replicate someone's activity the following night?

my ability targets a players recent past action and makes it happen the night I targeted them from. if all my action did was make a yesternight death into a tonight death then i don't think that would be noticably represented, unless speedchuck wrote in the night post "quin has vanished again" idk I haven't actually asked. I just assumed it wouldn't work like that

is squidward on the list

wbenwzoer scworge

wbensSe acorog

it never even occurred to me that even scrooge was a time traveler until this game tbh

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:55 am Scrooge would naturally be good, I would have assumed... he is redeemed at the end.

The Doctor is obviously good. BUT - the baddies will have fake flavour claims.

I don't think the roles are gonna be obviously "good" or "bad" I kinda think speedchuck just googled a list of famous time travelers in media and picked some weird ones.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:48 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:46 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:40 am Kyle obviously if your role is town backup it's going to be hard for there to be a character that represents such a thing as directly as mine does so I am not too worried about that. In U-Pick I made Juliets a cop because she picked a cop and rolled civ but most other characters didn't have too much to do with their roles. It's not something I'll get too hung up on. I do think there is muchos benefit to character claiming if it's permitted though.

no actually mine makes a weird amount of sense. im Ebenezer Scrooge

So why the histrionics when I said that mine did?

bc turnip head's claimed role attributes don't seem to make that much sense with his character, but I'm not all that familiar with the canon

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:48 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:47 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:46 am I am surprised that you are so circumspect towards someone you have BTSC with. That's usually a pretty hard thing to manage to do.

idk what that means

In my experience people trust their BTSC partners more than they should.

my first ever btsc experience involved Black Rock teaching me how to play mafia and then her getting recruited by Reavers late game and dismantling our town block manipulating me all the way. :[ I never fully recovered

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:46 am I am surprised that you are so circumspect towards someone you have BTSC with. That's usually a pretty hard thing to manage to do.

idk what that means

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:40 am Kyle obviously if your role is town backup it's going to be hard for there to be a character that represents such a thing as directly as mine does so I am not too worried about that. In U-Pick I made Juliets a cop because she picked a cop and rolled civ but most other characters didn't have too much to do with their roles. It's not something I'll get too hung up on. I do think there is muchos benefit to character claiming if it's permitted though.

no actually mine makes a weird amount of sense. im Ebenezer Scrooge

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:41 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:38 am galaxy brain theory: mafia scheme was to use sig's power to vanish turnip head to justify his claim but now they cant

HMMMM yes but how do you explain the fact that I apparently don't give a fuck HMMMM

cuz ur turnip head and you're too cool for school

message for you in the sex cave

galaxy brain theory: mafia scheme was to use sig's power to vanish turnip head to justify his claim but now they cant

like..... directly???

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:26 am I think we should do some character claiming at this point. Speedchuck said not to do it from the start but it's night three and my character and role are totally connected so I think there is value in it.

Speedchuck do you have an issue with us doing it? Mine is already out.

your character and role are connected????????

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:20 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:18 am I can't effect the night kill directly just cus of how real life time works. speedchuck couldn't text quin tonight and be like hey guess what you didn't die after all, go ahead and post a bunch in the past during day 3 except not after that cus you're dead already

but if my targeting causes people to get unblocked or unprotected they can die or undie or i guess... hypothetically re-die?

Yeah but you said that you were told if you target a kill nothing will happen right?

We are already here in this timeline where Quin didn't post in the past but if you were able to manipulate the night kill from the previous night to occur tonight instead and we can ensure Quin's protection then the kill won't occur and Quin should return to the thread? Unless you literally cannot alter kills as a specific part of your role.

Given we are all fairly aligned with our reads we should at least try this with your role.

I wasn't told "if you target a kill nothing will happen" I was told "in the case of a kill this might not have much of an effect"

the biggest boundary to that plan is that we'd have to correctly guess last night's killer and also spend a protection in the process. it'd be a major 2 birds one stone moment if it would work/be allowed

so anyways if we give turnip head his wincon tonight and it goes horribly wrong i can move his target and undo whatever bad thing happened, i... think?