The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:31 am Game-relevant points from the Robot High Fan Fiction series:
[*]Bullzeye and Luna had negative interactions
[*]DFaraday is a no-show
[*]Dom is too
[*]Wilgy is too

Despite the entertainment value of the Fanfictions, they say basically nothing. Not a good look.

well yeah. 3 of the first 4 players on the list alphabetically were no shows and then i got tired of the format so i stopped using it and started focusing on the most immediately relevant players and events, and doing teammate analysis as it became relevant to lynch vote decisions.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:07 am I'm looking over Kyle and I'm into Day 3 without seeing anything that looks convincingly Civ. So far, he asks questions, but is really light on opinions.

I reached this post:

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:43 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:54 am My reads, from towniest to scummiest

Kylemii - my top civ read which means he's bad
why x2
I can't fathom how Kyle could possibly be TH's top Civ read. And I didn't see TH respond to Kyle's question here. If I based everything on this post, then I'd vote Turnip Head easily, because this post makes no sense to me at all.

During Day 3, Kyle gives a reasoned, meta-supported explanation of why Turnip Head's behaviour is Civ. He also calls the case on Civ-Sloonei "weird garbage".

He votes Lunalee with virtually no personal discussion of her at all. Looks like the fourth vote for her? Next post is "tie meta" so I take it he tied it up at 4-4, and the end result was 9-5 Luna-Sloonei. "also i trust her voters a lot more than i trust sloonei's, and the case makes more sense"

Dyslexicon questioned Kyle's "Why am I green on your list" style questions, and Kyle's answer makes me suspicious... why? It's too slick maybe.

nutella, in what I believe was her final day:

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:13 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:44 pmActually I haven't mentioned this yet because I otherwise townread him but the other person who looked bus-ish was Kyle. His reasons are his "tie meta" (a real thing to be fair) and "also i trust her voters a lot more than i trust sloonei's, and the case makes more sense" which sounded just a little fake to me somehow. it looked like a decision that he didn't really back up with anything and this is what he came up with. Idk, I guess it could be consistent with town kyle to just state that he agrees with whatever case more in order to pick a candidate in time after doing his reading/weighing/reasoning, but it also struck me as the kind of thing a bussing teammate would say.
I said "tie meta" as a joke. that wasn't actually an example of tie-meta, outside of the fact that my vote created a tie. the purpose of tie meta is to put two equally suspicious characters in jeopardy in the final moments forcing the mafia to scramble or else leave the results in the hands of the gods in a scenario where i don't feel like i can make a decision more effectively than the um.... the aforementioned gods. my vote for Luna was more about moving sloonei out of a lead that i didn't feel was justified than about creating a lasting tie.
I don't like it.

All right, I got up to the fanfiction stuff, and I have to go to bed. I'll try to find time to continue this, but have a look for yourselves. Maybe it gets better from that point on, with more opinions and evidence of any real analysis. So far, I'm suspicious of Kyle.

seeming light on opinions is normal for me, I prefer to explore the possibilities as much as possible first before marrying myself to one.

the reason i voted for luna actually had little to do with her and more due to the fact that I didn't like the case against sloonei was very good, and the "tie meta" comment was a joke, as explained previously, that situation wasn't actually an example of tie meta.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:28 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:18 pm also can you tell me what anime your sword lord is from
Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Zero mostly.

that was actually the least important question that I asked, but thank you. is it worth watching?

also can you tell me what anime your sword lord is from

jack tell me about LC*

: \

Jack tell me about anime

x_x

i was holding my vote off so i could counter gemini man's vote if they showed up, and ended up losing chicken with the countdown clock

the later I vote the faster my mana recharges, for casting spells

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:44 pm Kyle, are you going to vote?

yeah

we need to get rid of gemini man as soon as possible gemini man is ruining the potential for tie meta : \

catch me up, what happened in the last 4 pages

hey guys

I'm 2 pages behind, and might not have time to catch up before deadline after work, can someone tell me what the case on kness even is? I think I get the gist of the Dharma Helper stuff

okay as in you'll do it? or okay as in "whatever mom"

I think, within the confines of the jack/DH discussion I think DH looks worse tonewise. I see the trash flinging I'd expect from a town DH but I don't see it being used productively because the characters he's accusing are the same ones accusing him. meanwhile jack is gamesolving elsewise.

if DH is civ I think the best thing he could do to prove that would be to chill out for a sec and do some legwork and maybe reevaluate the idea that everyone is out to get him cus that's almost never true.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:55 pm Kylemii, come make sense of everything and make me happy, plzzz.

please be more specific

fucked up that i can't just have anything i want the moment i want it :\

I'm interested in seeing jack's response to long con's big link case

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:06 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:05 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:59 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:41 pm @DharmaHelper may I request a link to a game in which you replaced in?
You can fam but I don't remember one.
please?
I seriously don't recall a game that I subbed into. Its just not something I think about.

: (

okay maybe just like any game where you were bad and a game where you were good then?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:43 pmNobody is imprisoned today? Except Nutella?

we are all prisoners of capitalism

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:59 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:41 pm @DharmaHelper may I request a link to a game in which you replaced in?
You can fam but I don't remember one.

please?

preferrably one where you replaced in as mafia, and one where you replaced in as civ, but I know that's kind of a lot to ask

no one followed up on my sigma joke and I'm mad about it

please

[mention]DharmaHelper[/mention] may I request a link to a game in which you replaced in?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:48 amPerhaps Cossack also recruited four Robot Masters, and we've been playing a game we're not prepared for (Fuck you Secret Animal Team)

if there's a secret animal team in this game it's probably being led by Sigma...

that was my 6996th post

i'm interested in hearing speedchuck's reasoning for viewing DH as a 3rd party, he hasn't actually been around that long and i don't really see any of his actions being ones that would work positively towards an indie win condition, in general i attribute indie behavior to like.... sliding into the background and stifling a little bit, dh has been anywhere but in the background.

the article for proto-man is really long... he's in a lot of games, he's mega man's rival and older brother, sometimes a mentor(?) he does seem to be frequently anti-wily though, and more than anything is interested in maintaining his own sense of agency. though he does work with dr. wily at times

mikhail cossack created 8 new robot masters and tried to take over the world but it turns out he was actually only doing it to save his daughter who had been kidnapped by dr. wily, who did so to force cossack to work for him, after wily is defeated, and dr. cossack builds a cool robot bird for mega man, which seems like a nice thing to do

did you guys know there was a mega man kart racing video game?

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:44 pm I think Kyle or Jack is Gemini Man

They seem the most likely people.

This is in conjunction with my "gemini man is a one shot power that marmot stole" theory

i am not gemini man, i considered the same thing about jack but i don't know, other than the fact that he missed the previous vote where we didn't see gemini man action take place, i don't have any other reason to suspect him

hair-ison ford

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:21 pm Kyle and Sprityo, who are you interested in lynching tomorrow?

btw what about you? who are you looking at coming into day 7

Barber-A Walters (you have to get permission though)

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:37 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:36 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:31 pm Please help me find the worst hair salon names.
Hair and there.
Hair me out.
Hairy Potter.
You are hair.
The red hairring.
the tortoise and the hair (only works if you get a pet tortoise in the shop)

hair today gone tomorrow (only works if you don't take drop ins)
Yeah, I thought of that last one too. The first one is funny. I like it. This is my new hobby btw.

opening barbershops?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:31 pm Please help me find the worst hair salon names.
Hair and there.
Hair me out.
Hairy Potter.
You are hair.
The red hairring.

the tortoise and the hair (only works if you get a pet tortoise in the shop)

hair today gone tomorrow (only works if you don't take drop ins)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:12 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:43 pm hmmmmm..... if that's the case then it's more likely that they just used gemini man cus they had a horse in the race with marmot right?
GM doesn’t vote Simon over Marmot if they are town unless they are LC because LC was the only player who expressed that a Simon lynch was better than a Marmot lynch. Full stop.

LC has said lots of things that imply he is not GM.

Ergo there is almost surely no town GM.

(Of course, LC could be mafia GM or town someone else. He’s just not town GM.)

I still think the GM vote on Marmot was WIFOM. Though the power steal is an interesting theory.

well there's a lot of unknowns still with gemini man, we don't know if it's a limited use power or if it can be magnet manned, if it can be used nightly then there's no reason to assume that the person who has the power would want to use it, so the votes wouldn't necessarily match up at all. i think we can probably only narrow it down a little.

i agree though, if gemini man is a limited use power then at least one of the uses were done by mafia, since a townie using extra votes to contradict themselves within the space of 72 hours would be kind of a wonky choice. i wouldn't be speculating on gemini man's identity if i thought there was a significant chance that it was a town role

damnit, i passed over 6969 posts without commenting on it :\

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:21 pm Kyle and Sprityo, who are you interested in lynching tomorrow?

i'm unsure as of yet, i never actually got into the tail end of my luna interaction analysis and i only got to analyze marmot's interacts with dharmahelper, bullzeye, and you.

i think finishing that might be the best next step, or maybe doing the trustfall exercise?

hmmmmm..... if that's the case then it's more likely that they just used gemini man cus they had a horse in the race with marmot right?

day 1 - no gemini man
voted: long con, jack, dom, infected alien, novaselinever, turnip head, speedchuck
didn't: dfaraday, drwilgy, dyslexicon, k-ness, kylemii, soneji, sprityo

day 3 - no gemini man
voted: kylemii, turnip head, long con, dyslexicon, speedchuck, jackofhearts, sprityo, k-ness, infected_alien
didn't: dfaraday, dom, drwilgy, novaselinever, soneji,

day 4 - yes gemini man
voted: turnip head, kyle, jackofhearts, dyslexicon, speedchuck, long con,
didn't: dfaraday, infected alien, dom, drwilgy, k-ness, novaselinever, soneji, sprityo

day 5 - yes gemini man
voted: DharmaHelper, sprityo, kylemii, speedchuck, long con, jackofhearts, k-ness, turnip head
didn't: dfaraday, dom, wilgy, dyslexicon, novaselinever, soneji,

day 6 - no gemini man
voted: turnip head, speedchuck, k-ness, kylemii, sprityo, long con, dyselxicon, dharmahelper, drwilgy
didn't: dfaraday, dom, jackofhearts, novaselinever, soneji,

fixed

i have to start over :\

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:35 pm gemini man was active for three days? im almost positive it was only two

fuck, you're right

my main takeaway from this is that we have way too many players missing votes

day 1 - no gemini man
voted: long con, jack, dom, infected alien, novaselinever, turnip head, speedchuck
didn't: dfaraday, drwilgy, dyslexicon, k-ness, kylemii, soneji, sprityo

day 3 - yes gemini man
voted: kylemii, turnip head, long con, dyslexicon, speedchuck, jackofhearts, sprityo, k-ness, infected_alien
didn't: dfaraday, dom, drwilgy, novaselinever, soneji,

day 4 - yes gemini man
voted: turnip head, kyle, jackofhearts, dyslexicon, speedchuck, long con,
didn't: dfaraday, infected alien, dom, drwilgy, k-ness, novaselinever, soneji, sprityo

day 5 - yes gemini man
voted: DharmaHelper, sprityo, kylemii, speedchuck, long con, jackofhearts, k-ness, turnip head
didn't: dfaraday, dom, wilgy, dyslexicon, novaselinever, soneji,

day 6 - no gemini man
voted: turnip head, speedchuck, k-ness, kylemii, sprityo, long con, dyselxicon, dharmahelper, drwilgy
didn't: dfaraday, dom, jackofhearts, novaselinever, soneji,

neither addition or subtraction

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:08 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:06 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:46 am do you think it would be useful to cross reference it with other lynches gemini man was/wasn't involved in?
Actually, yeah.
Eh. Maybe.

Like, if I was GM, I'd either vote with GM near EOD and pretend I wasn't around some of the time. Or I'd vote early with GM. Assuming it's a day power, it should be pretty easy to avoid looking like GM just based on timing.

But if Epi doesn't allow players to use day powers for their scumpartners (and this is where I was going with this earlier), then we can at least rule out some of the players who have missed entire day phases.

mmmmmm either way i will do it tomorrow I am too sleepy to do addition rn

oh dfaraday voted nvm

Spoiler: show

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:54 am My question to the thread about jack missing the vote isn't phony, I feel like im downplayed the relevance of my point

jack missed the vote too??? but my math.... it was perfeft

do you think it would be useful to cross reference it with other lynches gemini man was/wasn't involved in?

dfaraday, dom, soneji, novaselinever

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:18 am Nah, that whole exchange reeked.

which exchange?

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