The Syndicate

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:48 am @fingersplints sorry I called you mean, you weren't, you were just playing the game. I was being a little crybaby and I feel really dumb now.

Oh don’t even think about it. We’ve all said things in mafia games that we wish we hadn’t. It’s tough being suspected. It’s not a big deal

What a fun team. Congrats to the winners. I think the town really suffered due to holiday busy schedules, but still a fun time. Thanks for hosting @Mongoose

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:56 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:27 pm snip for ease

I just fell asleep on my kids floor trying to get her to sleep lol I might check in some, but honestly I’m too tired for my brain to be of any use and I need to seriously rethink some of my previous town reads
awww poor thing I remember those nights all too well.
But I do feel like we are on this ledge we really need to focus as a town.

Thoughts on the poss 3p role, thoughts on baddies.

If not today - tomorrow.

I don’t know if it’s worth worrying about today, but good to have in our minds. Right now we need to just elim any baddie

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:03 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:26 pm Mech spec = Mechanics speculation?

@Roxy i think it sounds like we have a 3P.

With this ratio, an extra baddie would be kinda overpowering. An extra civvie maybe not so much, unless the role had a power, then it might be overpowering too. And really, from a hosts perspective, what’s the point of a vanilla 3P?

No extra kills, so at least it doesn’t appear to be a Serial Killer
Like a Recruiting role? If the Leader dies or elimmed they all die? Or maybe they win if elimmed?

Or maybe some sort of protector if they protect successfully a number of times or no death for a number of days they win?

Too many possibilities.

I personally do not feel that the town or baddies would be overpowered by an additional role because most are vanilla.

Where is everyone?

I just fell asleep on my kids floor trying to get her to sleep lol I might check in some, but honestly I’m too tired for my brain to be of any use and I need to seriously rethink some of my previous town reads

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 3:05 pm i did one semester of philosophy in 8h, i got an a, idk where to put this so i'll drop it in the thread cause a big weight is lifted from my shoulders

Good job! Keep working hard at school! One regret in my mid 30s is not taking schooling seriously enough when I was younger. So keep getting those As

I think my worst gift ever was my FIL gifted me this plastic apron, but then immediately took the apron and cleaned the oven with it, then left the apron absolutely disgusting lol I actually like house stuff as gifts; it was more the surprise that he immediately used it and left it in that state. But that’s family lol

Tbh I love presents but not so much the receiving as the giving is important to me. I literally plan all year making little lists so that I can get loved ones the well thought out gifts with my little money. My parents give me money every year and my mom has to literally nag me what I got myself because she knows I will spend it all on everyone else.

Buche de Noel!

I made one with my best friend for French class when I was in high school, and such fun memories.

If this is a multiple choice poll, I’m also choosing coconut cake as it’s one of the first things I ate after Jude was born, and some other cakes I enjoy that don’t have any sentimental reason for choosing.

Merry Christmas to each and every player.

I have had the most wonderful holiday. It was stressful and I was hating every moment of it… then Val said “mommy”

For those who don’t know my daughter is non verbal autistic, and I just want to cry at this moment. It’s been an hour and a half and I’m STILL crying writing this. Merry Christmas all. I love you alll

It’s on you to tell us what changed at this point

That’s a silly argument. You could just as easily say you don’t get to tell me what doesn’t count. You are the one just throwing out names without any discussion.

When you don’t mention any reason or other mention, yea it counts.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 7:24 pm Finger/Roxy/SVS/Wilgy/Sig/Lemon - who are the wolves in there if any when I flip town?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:34 pm TonyStarkPrime - Town
Neon - Town
Roxy - Town(Could be wolf with Falcon)(Not wolf with Finger)
sabie12 - Town (Possible TMI on my slot)

fingersplints - Soft Town (Not wolf with Wilgy)(Not wolf with Roxy)
Dennis - Soft Town (Not wolf with Wilgy)
Kate - Soft Town (Deep wolf potential)
Lemonfairy - Soft Town

Epignosis - Null
RondoDimBuckle - Null

Lucy - Upper POE
Quin - Upper POE(Not wolf with falcon)
falcon45ca - Upper POE(Not wolf with Quin)(could be wolf with Roxy)

Marmot - Lower POE
DrWilgy - Lower POE (Not wolf with Finger)(Not wolf with Dennis)
S~V~S - Lower POE

Wilgy should have told everyone by now that I am impossible to read and that scum reading me for no posting is a strange position for anyone to take. This is not a defence of Falcon. They should be counter wagons to each other. If Wilgy is right then Falcon needs to go. SVS and Him can potentially have been working the game from two different angles to get into the town core.

I also note that Kate/Quin/SVS the 3 I called out are all on Falcon. So I may have to adjust my reads back.
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[VOTE: Wilgy ] aubergine
Especially since he isnt on the wagon he started.

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If I die tonight beware anyone touting my reads as gospel

Marmot
Roxy
Epignosis
DrWilgy
SVS

Sig
Tsp

Lemonfairy

Neon
Kate
RondoDimBuckle

Liking sig’s content.could see quickly rising to the town read category

I don’t want a tie but also feel most comfortable in a rondo vote so not really excited to move off that

I’m home and around. Checking in sporadicly while I keep my annual Christmas Eve tradition of watching Muppets Christmas Carol before bed.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:11 pmI like ties

Tie means no death

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:07 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:58 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:20 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:11 pm Anyone who will answer: GTH who is the team?
Rondo, lemonfairy, Neon.

I keep thinking Wigly but maybe you are right, idk I have never played by putting people with their roles I just hint for baddies.

What about you?

Also today and tomorrow will be hard for me to game. I have a 2 year old granddaughter that is the most important thing rn. I will try to be in and out.
I have currently talked myself into Rondo, neon, Kate
With Neon today trying to steer the topic away from Kate as a set up, and rondo who I think was pretty likely to go over, it would be a good look for her when he came back bad as the fake check
See the problem I have here is your tying yourself into a world where you think me and Kate are W/W but what if I'm just wrong town here or alternatively I'm a wolf setting up a W/W world with Kate so you flip me into a town.

This is why I hate when people look for teams before even flipping a wolf.

I definitely am not set on that and will continue to reevaluate it if needed. But I wanted to compare answers to look for most common names. I think it’s a useful exercise.

I think Marmot vs SVS is both town

sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 3:58 pm @Epignosis @S~V~S @fingersplints

Do any of you remember Roxy’s mafia meta?

Since she’s either town or very deep wolfing. I can’t recall e if this was how she used to play.

Additionally given she’s just come back from hiatus I feel as if a mafia game would be harder for her vs town so I’m leaning town for sure.

Yes, the last game on here she was mafia. SVS also played that game.

I think she is town. Admittedly, I spent a large portion of the game thinking she was town last game too.

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:20 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:11 pm Anyone who will answer: GTH who is the team?
Rondo, lemonfairy, Neon.

I keep thinking Wigly but maybe you are right, idk I have never played by putting people with their roles I just hint for baddies.

What about you?

Also today and tomorrow will be hard for me to game. I have a 2 year old granddaughter that is the most important thing rn. I will try to be in and out.

I have currently talked myself into Rondo, neon, Kate
With Neon today trying to steer the topic away from Kate as a set up, and rondo who I think was pretty likely to go over, it would be a good look for her when he came back bad as the fake check

Anyone who will answer: GTH who is the team?

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Neon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:10 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:24 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:09 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:07 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:06 am
fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:25 am I’m very surprised by that kill. I was still suspicious of Dennis, but it seems I was wrong. Dennis, I hope you know that I think you played well. It’s just the nature of the game. People find little suspicions and it sticks sometimes. It can be very hard to be on the receiving end of it, but you did well for your first time getting lots of suspicion. We all get frustrated during mafia sometimes. It’s ok. I hope you still stick around and play more.

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:35 am The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes
Who do you think they are trying to bait us into? Kate?

I could see that especially as Marmot came in with a vote for her and rondo claimed a fake red check on her.
Of those two, I was town reading Marmot. This fake check is just fuelling my suspicion of rondo.
I think they baited us into Lucy and are now baiting us into Kate
You're telling us what "they" are doing without telling us who "they" are.

Who dey?

(With apologies to JJJ and bwt)
I think I made it pretty apparent what I'm thinking actually
No you didn't. You made three on-topic posts between this one and now. Here they are:

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:07 am
fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:25 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:09 am I now have physical proof I suck at Mafia.

I recorded all my games of mafia and my win rate is atrocious lol

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:10 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:51 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:35 am The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:36 am I wouldn't be surprised if Wilgy or even Marmot or Epi are woofin

Do you believe this, or is this more of a "my top suspect was nightkilled and now I'm lost" reaction?
I believe we are way off base and mafia is laughing in our face by killing Dennis. Yes.

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:11 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:10 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:51 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:35 am The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:36 am I wouldn't be surprised if Wilgy or even Marmot or Epi are woofin

Do you believe this, or is this more of a "my top suspect was nightkilled and now I'm lost" reaction?
I believe we are way off base and mafia is laughing in our face by killing Dennis. Yes.
Alternatively SVS is scum and they were trying to discredit Quinns solve so we never went there.
I don't see who "they" are.

The only thing you offer is S~V~S being bad, but that's "alternatively." So I don't understand why you raise an alternative theory without making your first one clear.

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine
Well you certainly didn't include all my posts that are indicative of my feelings about this game but *shrugs*

I like Epi’s accusations here and do not like Neon’s responses.
I first asked about the Kate thing, because the “they” caught my eye as well. I even offered two possible people who “they” could be, but Neon chose not to comment on that. This reads to me like a mafia move for sure. Put a small idea out there without really naming names so it doesn’t get back to you as being the originator of the accusation.

This also would mean that Neon, if bad, was trying to divert attention from a Kate elimination. While I completely agree with SVS that I don’t see Kate first choice to NK her own son, unless only to put him out of his misery quicker as maybe he really wasn’t having fun. But Kate isn’t the only mafia. Maybe she wasn’t around, as she is sick. Maybe she got outnumbered. Idk

@S~V~S

[VOTE: rondo] aubergine

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:09 am I now have physical proof I suck at Mafia.

I’m very surprised by that kill. I was still suspicious of Dennis, but it seems I was wrong. Dennis, I hope you know that I think you played well. It’s just the nature of the game. People find little suspicions and it sticks sometimes. It can be very hard to be on the receiving end of it, but you did well for your first time getting lots of suspicion. We all get frustrated during mafia sometimes. It’s ok. I hope you still stick around and play more.

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:35 am The Dennis kill to me shows the woofs aren't being pressured and that we are running way off base. Not surprising really methinks they are using night kills to bait us into easy misexes

Who do you think they are trying to bait us into? Kate?

I could see that especially as Marmot came in with a vote for her and rondo claimed a fake red check on her.
Of those two, I was town reading Marmot. This fake check is just fuelling my suspicion of rondo.

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 3:36 pm also one last thing while I am in the bathroom - I chose Tricorn for obv reasons and will be extremely put out if @fingersplints does not do the same.

Hahaha I voted tricorn before I saw this comment. Ofc I was voting that. You know I didn’t even read the options after it

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:04 pm I read a kate post I thought was wolfy

Which one?

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:17 pm @fingersplints thanks for responding to my list. Nut you came back with a soft defense of little tsp. I do not get how you can defend a player who has only 8 or 10 posts all of them one liners. But ok. I will not go after imv unless I have exhausted all my other susp. What do you make of Marmot? lucy? Wigly? Rondo?

I’m not saying don’t suspect tsp. I have no read on him yet. I was just warning you because his playstyle caused me to tunnel him pretty hard my first few games with him, and it seemed to have caught your eye too.

Slight town read on marmot. I’ve been teammates with him before; I believe once prior to my long break, and again when I returned with Fargo mafia. He feels more focused, and is volunteering more reads. It feels genuine to me.
I think Dennis is mafia, and if he is then I don’t think it looks good for Lucy.
Last day period I thought Wilgy was town. I haven’t given it much of a rethought post falcon flip but definitely would like to revisit that read. He seems way more less jokey than I am used to, so not sure what to make of that. I know I’ve played with him when he was mafia before but I can’t remember what he played like to compare.
Rondo is another I have suspicion on based on playing differently.

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 5:43 pm Okay I think I've sorted myself out a little bit.

[VOTE: Splints] aubergine is probably my number one kill. She twisted (or misinterpreted) my words. I don't think past games is weak, I think using MY first game to compare to this game. Obviously I'm going to be different, I was confused as shit. And if you say 'why didn't you say that' then you clearly aren't reading my messages. Though I interpreted her messages as condescending and mean so maybe this is a 'no u'. Yeah, my wilgy vote was bad. My neon vote wasn't any better, at all in my eyes. I have heard counterwagons are good and that they're bad so I guess this was the wrong circumstances to counterwagon, whoopsies sorry.

I’m not sure where I was mean or condescending but I’m sorry you feel that way.

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:41 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:18 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:20 pm Naturally I'm gonna play a little different this game, especially at the start. I had no clue what I was doing last game and now I have at least a basic understanding. And I was a power role so that gave me some confidence. I think that I played different last game is a weak argument, at best.
I don’t think it is weak. The questions you are asking don’t seem genuine, and it very much feels like you are much more cautious in a way I would expect from newbie mafia.

But ok, you want to get into weak reasoning.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:10 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine for counterwagon
Can you explain your vote other than “for counterwagon”?
It was better than my vote on Neon and I thought counterwagoning was good because of last game discussion.

This is a terrible explanation.

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

I like the open nights.

I think wilgy, marmot, quin, and Rox are town.
I’d like to hear more from Epi as well.
@Roxy tsp is another player who I have in the past scumread a lot based on how he plays. It’s all very normal for him so far. Doesn’t mean he is good or bad, just he is easy to miselim
Kate is probably town, but not a solid read. I think she thrived the last game as being super town with golden as the “leader” but maybe she needs to lead this time

I love that

is still : kadaj : makes me laugh to think about new players like what is that and why is it called kadaj lol

No I don’t want to be a stone actually. I want to be something like a big fluffy blanket so that my only purpose in life is to lay around and be warm and comforting.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:40 pm Mid-Day Check In - I would be a rock so I could lay around in the sunshine all day and just be a stoned.

Fuck yes. This
Lmao I couldn’t even read the rest just had to comment. Put me and Rox’s stones next to each other

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:20 pm Naturally I'm gonna play a little different this game, especially at the start. I had no clue what I was doing last game and now I have at least a basic understanding. And I was a power role so that gave me some confidence. I think that I played different last game is a weak argument, at best.

I don’t think it is weak. The questions you are asking don’t seem genuine, and it very much feels like you are much more cautious in a way I would expect from newbie mafia.

But ok, you want to get into weak reasoning.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:10 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine for counterwagon

Can you explain your vote other than “for counterwagon”?

I picked the mountains. I want quiet, away from the city, with someone to watch my kids so I can just curl up with a book I disturbed.

I hate amusement parks. When I was a child I “almost” fell off a rollercoaster. It was old and rickety and had a seatbelt to secure you. I’m almost certainly remembering it as more perilous and life threatening then it actually was, but it scared me and I’m still kind of weird about rides and don’t go on any.

I like Quin’s theory. Dennis’s play definitely feels different from last game.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:14 pm Jesus I dont have much time I have to go watch die hard

Before you go watch die hard, thoughts on falcon please?!

I am undecided on falcon. I still do find his initial reaction to Wilgy to be too defensive in a possible caught mafia way. I think I'm getting better at reading falcon, but he’s definitely still not someone I would consider myself to be good at reading.
I don’t think he is a bad vote candidate today.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:11 pm You want us to text you?

You heard the man! Text him that!

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:52 am
Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:06 am
Roxy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:31 am So far the only things stand out to me are that iRondo came in like a much duller version of himself from last game. He is not pressing anyone. He has not made multiple votes with nary a reason. He hasn't pushed not questioned anyone for any reason. Makes me wonder about what may have changed from this game to the last one.
He was a sub last game, dropped in around D3 or D4. Here he gets to make his own reads, but in the other he had to rely on ours until he got a feel. That's my guess, at least.
This makes sense, I think subbing in later does make it easier to get into it because there's more info to go on and things have gotten going by then.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:33 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:43 pm Wolf team is Kate / SVS / Quinn
So he picked the 3rd, 4th and 5th persons to post. I assumed it was a joke (although nothing he ever posts reads like a joke to me, I can't read him at all after the one game), and moved on.

When I came into the thread after Day one started, I saw he was still on that, and had voted for me.

I'm like, Is this a joke, does he mean it? After the last game I am vaguely terrified of him (only low key kidding here). He came in to the last game like a force of nature (but he subbed in and i know when I sub in I try to establish my civ credentials early), and they kept blazing the whole game. Everyone else seems to be ignoring it, but I have been waiting for him, and he hasn't come back. It's just weird to me that he picked 3, 4, 5 even if a joke. He's usually here in the AM, my time, when I'm here, and hasn't been the last 2 days. There could be civ reasons for this, or just random Rondo reasons, and not gonna let myself get derailed by fear of being derailed, if that makes sense.

So I'm gonna stop worrying about it.

So both of these quotes mention rondo and his differences from last game, and both excuse this with comments of the difference between subbing in and from the beginning. This is not normal from what I have seen from town rondo in other games where he played from the beginning. He always kind of dives in and can be quite relentless with his suspicions even early.
I will say that I can’t remember if I’ve ever played a game when he is bad

[VOTE: rondo] aubergine

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:46 pm fingersplints: town
lucy: town
Roxy: town
Neon: probably town
Sabi: mommy
SVS: maybe mafia (although the more she posts the more I trend away from this)
falcon: probably a wolf
DrWilgy: uwu
Kate: not obviously town (which I am taking to be slightly wolf-indicative based on seeing her as obv!town last game)
Lemonfairy: hi

Oh I made the top of the list!

Mongoose wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 10:20 am Morning Check-In/Optional Prompt:

I've got a Zoom book club today and we are discussing the four Amgash/Lucy Barton novels. I am so ready to discuss them! So this got me thinking: What was the last book you couldn't wait to discuss with someone?

I was so sad none of my book clubs picked up Remarkably Bright Creatures, Hurricane Girl, or The Cartographers this year, but wow did I love reading them. What about you?[/color]

When Women Were Dragons

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 6:05 pm PS, Heat Miser is the bomb...well, he's too much

I love that movie so much.

I was,in my slow and half assed way, working on a Christmas themed game, obvi with miser bros as mafia. I hosted one once upon a time with Shinny (lol for lots of reasons. IYKYK) but I left it too late this year

Guess I will have to settle for my themed av/sig

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 6:03 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:55 pm It’s really early to pull the “you should be able to read me better” IMO. It’s defensive in a way that I don’t think town has to be this early
Tell me more.

Like, is it out of character for me to make a read others don't agree with?

You make some controversial reads, that is true. It had a “tone” that didn’t sit well with me, but I would be willing to watch for now.

It’s really early to pull the “you should be able to read me better” IMO. It’s defensive in a way that I don’t think town has to be this early

I don’t like it

Has everyone except Epi and tsp checked in?

I don’t really have any suspicions yet. I do have some people I don’t want to vote for though, so I’ll give those thoughts for now.

I like SVS thoughts so far, and I find myself agreeing with her. I’m getting a little deja vu of the last game where we were t/t, so I’m giving a slight town lean for now.

I won’t vote lemonfairy. New to the site. Deserves time to adjust.

Wilgy: a perfect combination of jokesy with serious. Not seeing the same things as him but I like the perspective.

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:28 am so now i pose the question, even if i was a wolf, do you think you could have successfully caught me based off my current actions

What current actions in the thread are most likely to catch a wolf?

I don’t really like the dismissive “you were just wrong so have to be here” to a small day 1 suspicion comment. The thread has been mostly OT, someone has to get things rolling.

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