The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote:I thought the plan was the worst idea ever, but I did not want to get into a pissing match with INH or MP over it, so I just rolled over.

Thanks for hosting Llama, very interesting concepts.

triceratopzeuhl wrote:

fingersplints wrote: sorry for missing the lynch poll. I would have voted inh for the confrontational tone in his last post to me:

What is the point of that, though? I think you are totally missing the win conditions. If him being confrontational makes you think he is on a particular team, and voting for that team would benefit you & help you achieve win conditions, fine, then explain it here, if that is even how you feel.

Voting due to perceived rudeness while ignoring win conditions entirely screams of pettiness and is probably a disservice to your teammates.

triceratopzeuhl wrote:Hell, the game is literally called OBLIQUE STRATEGIES. I think a lot of people completely miss the insinuations of that

i.e. that typical mafia tactics (arguing and trying to fabricate lynch cases on random people) will accomplish nothing

insertnamehere wrote: Oh boy. Let me break this one down.

fingersplints wrote:What has already been said sabie. Voting plans rarely actually work, They usually do for me. and this one feels a lot like "cheating the system"... in the event that it actually does work. Seriously? I wouldn't underestimate Llama's intelligence. He's one smart cookie. I don't see any way that Llama didn't write the entire game around the core concept that everyone could win the game if they all work together. The roles, the rules, everything matches up too perfectly for this to be unintentional.

And "animals revealing their team" feels a lot like outing. Once again, THIS IS PART OF THE GAME. THE RULES EXPLICITLY ALLOW THIS. This is not a standard game of mafia. We can out our own team. Idkk I don't like it at all and I don't plan on following it. Is the only pro for this that INH assures us that everyone will win? Read the rules. Read the roles. It makes actual logical sense. It's not just me telling people to do random things and saying that everyone will magically win.

I play to have fun, and if I win yea that's cool too, but I'd rather enjoy doing it and be challenged. Following this voting plan and winning isn't a win for me, I'm sorry.

I'll just quote what I said about SVS.

insertnamehere wrote:
If you wanted to play a standard vanilla game of mafia, you shouldn't of signed up in the first place, and maybe you shouldn't insult the game itself for not being something that you, personally, like.

I don't see how this is not "playing" or not "fun".

Llama more or less explicitly wrote the game so that this could happen, and making it happen is such an immense challenge, that getting it to work is, in my opinion, a fun objective that requires people to "play" the game, but maybe not in the normal way that you "play" a game of mafia.

insertnamehere wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:Yessss, game!

So, from looking at the roles, it looks like there is a way for everyone to win.

What about this: We only lynch Animals. This would require that the Animals reveal their team. Blank Frank and Baby's on Fire refuse to use their NK. Then, after 6 days and nights, we are left with
6 Gals, who all instantly win, 6 Fellas, who all instantly win, and 6 dead Animals, who (due to the fact that members of their team can win while dead) instantly win also.

It's a win-win-win.

Who's with me? :

FOR FINGERSPLINTS

juliets wrote:Hi splintsy - welcome. if you're not going to read back be sure to have someone explain the plan to you, and then have one of the people who don't like the plan explain their views.