The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote:I felt so bad for you, LCs NK just took the wind right out of your sails.

It did. When I saw the post my jaw hit the desk. I was so bloody certain and then I had nothing.


I thought MM wanted to be friends. I guess not

Great game. I had a lot of fun. So LC was bad after all The world makes sense again. I didn't ever suspect MM, so you had me fooled.

First game I trusted Epignosis for no reason. I just did. I'm glad I was right.

Ok I decided on Llama for the weird not posting thing people were saying. Sorry I have to go, my house is falling apart.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

LoRab wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

LoRab wrote:Personally, mainly because I'm stubborn, I'm not putting it outside the realm of possibility that LC was bad and his team killed him to protect his identity, seeing that his lynch seemed inevitable. What that means for this new lynch, I'm not sure. But I'm not buying that LC was civ. If he was, killing him would make no sense for the baddies.

Killing him regardless makes no sense from a strategic standpoint.

I've seen it happen. And your logic of what makes sense is not necessarily the same as others' logic.

Like DD, I was om his team and never understood or agreed. As far as I was concerned it didn't help. Would LC do it? Sure he would. But why? We have discussed it extensively. I decided it was a shit move. I think he agreed with it. Taking your own numbers out is always stupid, if you ask me.

Is this a reference to another game? What's DD?

wow... I don't remember posting last night. It was my bowling banquet. I spent a lot of money at the bar. DD was DiamondDog. He was awesome. He killed himself in a game. It was stupid. It was a long time ago.

I have no idea who I am voting for. I have approximately 10 6 - 7 year old boys running around my house right now. James' is having a Bday party.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm voting for Matt.

Why?

Your need to vote for him this game is just something I don't understand.

LoRab wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

LoRab wrote:Personally, mainly because I'm stubborn, I'm not putting it outside the realm of possibility that LC was bad and his team killed him to protect his identity, seeing that his lynch seemed inevitable. What that means for this new lynch, I'm not sure. But I'm not buying that LC was civ. If he was, killing him would make no sense for the baddies.

Killing him regardless makes no sense from a strategic standpoint.

I've seen it happen. And your logic of what makes sense is not necessarily the same as others' logic.

Like DD, I was om his team and never understood or agreed. As far as I was concerned it didn't help. Would LC do it? Sure he would. But why? We have discussed it extensively. I decided it was a shit move. I think he agreed with it. Taking your own numbers out is always stupid, if you ask me.

Epignosis wrote:Well then.

ika, MetalMarsh89, and Matt are the three names at the top of my list for that.

Who would throw strategy to the sea and do something like kill Long Con on the eve of his lynch?

Beats me, I would have left him be. I just can't figure out how I read him so wrong that I was sure he was bad.

Well.... wtf.

Long Con wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Long Con wrote:Hey guys, that was a harrowing lynch, I'm glad we finally got one in Sorsha. Oh yeah, also how's about you don't lynch me because I'm not a freakin' baddie?!

I don't know what inspired people to hop on the classic old "LC is a baddie" train, but I assure you that you don't want to lynch me. I don't really know what else to say, is there a case against me, or did someone just point their finger and everyone ran where they were pointing?

Eyyyyyy lmao your wife thinks you're bad.
Case and point.

Well, I've been lynched for much less, but that doesn't change the fact that she's wrong... or the fact that there's no real case for me to even rebut.

How dare you state publicly that I am wrong. Especially when I'm not.

Do you believe MM to be the third teammate?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Checks the front page.

Yay mafia!

Get back here Matt. Weren't you the one trying to get Illy lynched?

That was me as well.



*phew* I'm glad she did flip bad. I went after it with only a few tiny things that bugged me. I was going to go after LC all the way until last night when she almost dared me to vote her and used that crappy "lazy" and "I never am like this when bad" excuse.

I have to go soon. I wanted to know.

Epignosis wrote:

Matt wrote:If Sorsha flips good, I'm inclined to vote Epi tomorrow for sucking worse then I do this game.

I don't see how I suck if Sorsha is good. I tried to lynch Long Con.

Don't worry, tomorrow we'll get LC.

I'll likely not see tomorrow but it was fun while it lasted.

Matt wrote:

Black Rock wrote:See, Matt. The baddies want another option. They tried with Illy. It scares me that LC didn't vote Sorsha. Maybe they have something in their back pocket.

What do you think of Lorab's vote for presumably cursed Long Con?

Linki - Lulz.

Well I think an LC vote is better than an Illy vote so I like her vote a lot better than yours.

Matt wrote:I never voted Sorsha cuz Epi did btw.

EPI MOVE YOUR VOTE TO ILLY GAAAAAAAAAAAAH

I going to come to your house and torture you if Illy gets lynched and flips civ.

See, Matt. The baddies want another option. They tried with Illy. It scares me that LC didn't vote Sorsha. Maybe they have something in their back pocket.

Matt wrote:Laaaame. Getting rid of a...mostly...inactive instead of she-who-is-a-proven-liar?

C'mon town, you're better then this!

Matt. I really don't think Illyria is bad. Epignosis has stated this and I trust him this game. Might be the only one ever in my life, but I do. Vote Sorsha with me. Don't give the baddies another option.

Scotty wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Well, as it stands, either Long Con or Sorsha can place their vote onto me for survival. I'm none too pleased about that.

That's pretty crappy. I'm pretty sure civvies, at least some, have voted for you and they need to change it now.

A Sorsha vote is a good bet. I will vote to save Epignosis. I'm confidant he is not bad.

If you are not confidant, like I am, about Sorsha then vote LC. I will switch my vote to him to save Epignosis.

Also Matt is a bad vote. So don't vote there. If he was bad he would have never tried to push suspicion on me.

Why are you so confident Epi is good?

I want to give LC the same grace that a bunch of you gave me when I was silent, and not vote him today.

I just am. Something about is play is screaming civvie to me. Also, if I'm right about LC and Sorsha I very much doubt Epignosis is bad. If Epig was bad, I'd be dead. He thinks I won't be lynched and therefore I would be a liability to him.

Black Rock wrote:

Epignosis wrote:On a scale of 1 to 10, would you lynch him? 10 being the highest likelihood.

Without that scale I would say not right now. I've not got a gut read on him. I want to lynch Sorsha and LC first.

He is likely to get a vote before 6 others on the list of 12 on the poll though.


Black Rock
Epignosis
Ika
Matt
Scotty
Illyria
Metalmarsh89
Lorab
thellama73
Dom
Long Con
Sorsha


Wityhout this ever being a rainbow list, this is where I stand right now. Notice there is not a colour to be found. I'm feeling very confidant about this list at the moment.

lol, this is my last night of having a drink before I lay the smack down on the new diet so any crimes against the English language doesn't count.

Epignosis wrote:On a scale of 1 to 10, would you lynch him? 10 being the highest likelihood.

Without that scale I would say not right now. I've not got a gut read on him. I want to lynch Sorsha and LC first.

He is likely to get a vote before 6 others on the list of 12 on the poll though.


Black Rock
Epignosis
Ika
Matt
Scotty
Illyria
Metalmarsh89
Lorab
thellama73
Dom
Long Con
Sorsha


Wityhout this ever being a rainbow list, this is where I stand right now. Notice there is not a colour to be found. I'm feeling very confidant about this list at the moment.

Epignosis wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Black Rock, what is your opinion of MetalMarsh?

He's been friendly to me, but his last post does not make sense. Maybe it's because my perspective should be obvious but I thought MM understood the obvious this game. It's not personal it's just not a good play if you were bad.

Do you think he's ignoring that fact out of convenience?

I think he's doing a lot of things out of convenience. But as always, I find it hard to pull the trigger on a MetalMarsh lynch.

I believe we spoke earlier about how, if you were looking to lynch MM, you really couldn't do much on the basis of his posts. For me, that's still the case. He's just...there.

I understand. I think he plans it that way. I feel he gets lynched by accident most of the time. That's why he's a good first lynch, no real reason, just day 1. He decided be my friend and not kill me night 1 if he was bad though, that's nice. Thread content? Nothing.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Well, as it stands, either Long Con or Sorsha can place their vote onto me for survival. I'm none too pleased about that.

That's pretty crappy. I'm pretty sure civvies, at least some, have voted for you and they need to change it now.

A Sorsha vote is a good bet. I will vote to save Epignosis. I'm confidant he is not bad.

If you are not confidant, like I am, about Sorsha then vote LC. I will switch my vote to him to save Epignosis.

Also Matt is a bad vote. So don't vote there. If he was bad he would have never tried to push suspicion on me.

I'll switch my vote to Long Con.

I don't understand what you are saying about Matt here. Is this a personal thing?

How do you feel about Sorsha?

Epignosis wrote:Black Rock, what is your opinion of MetalMarsh?

He's been friendly to me, but his last post does not make sense. Maybe it's because my perspective should be obvious but I thought MM understood the obvious this game. It's not personal it's just not a good play if you were bad.

Do you think he's ignoring that fact out of convenience?

Epignosis wrote:Well, as it stands, either Long Con or Sorsha can place their vote onto me for survival. I'm none too pleased about that.

That's pretty crappy. I'm pretty sure civvies, at least some, have voted for you and they need to change it now.

A Sorsha vote is a good bet. I will vote to save Epignosis. I'm confidant he is not bad.

If you are not confidant, like I am, about Sorsha then vote LC. I will switch my vote to him to save Epignosis.

Also Matt is a bad vote. So don't vote there. If he was bad he would have never tried to push suspicion on me.

Scotty wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Long Con wrote:JJ

I understand, you're right. I might be taking advantage of you.

I'll vote Sorsha.

This is the cutest thing I've ever seen.
When people get married, do they adapt a unique language?

lol indeed they do.

i kinda want to get married now so I can build upon my current known languages of Elvish, common tongue and Klingon

As long as you don't use that as a selling point, I'm sure one day you will get married.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:KK

oh no, don't feel lonely.

Long Con wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Long Con wrote:JJ

I understand, you're right. I might be taking advantage of you.

I'll vote Sorsha.

This is the cutest thing I've ever seen.
When people get married, do they adapt a unique language?

lol indeed they do.

JJ

I love you too!?

If only that's all you said in real life.

Black Rock wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Long Con wrote:JJ

I understand, you're right. I might be taking advantage of you.

I'll vote Sorsha.

This is the cutest thing I've ever seen.
When people get married, do they adapt a unique language?

lol indeed they do.

Although, I really don't know what he actually intended here or do I understand this curse.

Scotty wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Long Con wrote:JJ

I understand, you're right. I might be taking advantage of you.

I'll vote Sorsha.

This is the cutest thing I've ever seen.
When people get married, do they adapt a unique language?

lol indeed they do.

Black Rock wrote:

Long Con wrote:JJ

I understand, you're right. I might be taking advantage of you.

I'll vote Sorsha.

By taking advantage of you, it was not sexual but curse related.... this time.

Long Con wrote:JJ

I understand, you're right. I might be taking advantage of you.

I'll vote Sorsha.

Sorsha wrote:Well if you've made up your mind that I'm bad you aren't going to like anything I have to say about it, you call it an excuse but it's the truth. This is so far off from how I play when I'm bad but whatever, you think I'm bad but you aren't even voting for me?

Would you prefer I vote you before LC? I would be fine with that. I feel the same about both of you. I just don't know if anyone else would believe it enough.

I've tried that excuse before too, it never worked for me.

Sorsha wrote:I'm not LCs teammate, I'm just lazy and not finding anything very suspicious to comment on when I am around.

BR suspecting LC is good enough for me, I did have some suspicion of him earlier in the game, plus there was the "slip" that sig pointed out also *votes LC*

I don't like that excuse either. I think several others have made up that excuse for you. I also did not buy your LC vote earlier in the game. I think you jumped on this vote early because you see where the wind is blowing and are hoping for cred.

But that's just my opinion.

I voted for LC, I hope he still loves me later.

Dom wrote:lc anypme?

I am up for that. But like Epig says I'm still alive, maybe we should get his teammates first. Who do you think they would be if LC were bad.

My browser is much lame so I am going to type what I can before I have to shut it all down.

Epig, that first quote of LC's to Dom about what I said if I am right about that being the first quote in your post. Is whjat originally made me suspicious of LC. Then he kept on making it obvious he knew who I was. He normally just ignores all that shit. He creeped me out.

I also think Sorsha to be his teammate, for the little interaction they have had. Sorsha also voted for LC when no one else was. I can pull quotes after I fix this slow browser.

Matt do you still suspect me?

Shutting down the browser and cooking dinner, be back later.

Matt wrote:Damn, I should really ISO her completely before I make comments. Apparently Llama asks the same question I do...

Illyria wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Illyria wrote: I have never read BWT right, this game proves no exception.

This was posted before the lynch result. How do you know you were not reading him right, when you didn't know his alignment?

Or did you know his alignment after all?

No idea on his alignment before the lynch. I was stating I have never read him right, I was all over the place on his alignment as I read through the thread. So yeah, this game is right on track for me. Huzzah.

Also, what name did you call me?

Still, I'm gettin' the heebies from Illy really bad.

I'm gonna continue to look through her posts, any other questions I have I'll put all in one post.

What does everyone think of Black Rock?

Black Rock is a civilian.
This is why I think Matt is good.
Even though I doubt I have mentioned him before, I just came up with this opinion.

Epignosis wrote:

Dom wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I have already gone through Scotty's posts. I would consider voting there based on my analysis, although the Wilgy business gives me pause.

Thankfully no one silenced me, so I am able to examine everybody else I am considering voting. Once again, I'll take Lady Edith's advice and begin there.

Lady Edith is gravely mistaken about me, and I hope to show it to you.

And Edith implied that I'm not very good or experienced, so it would appear we both have a grievance with her ladyship.

Maybe she just considers you a civilian.

I voted Nerolunar. I obviously can't be trusted to leave decisions close to a deadline.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:I could see Sig being bad tbh. Im not that used to his meta, but so far he seems more calculated than usual. Scotty too has this manipulative/calculated vibe. They are not acting the way they did in Turf Wars at least - what do you guys think of this?

I wouldn´t lynch Ika. He is a solid townread for me, as is Epignosis.

He doesn't seem calculated at all to me. Long Con is someone who I would call calculated and that isn't unique to this game.

How would you describe their behavior in Turf Wars? What were their alignments and that game?

Interesting, you would call Long Con calculated this game. I would call him "Mr Put His Foot In Mouth" but that's just my opinion since he's said a few things that pissed me off this game.

I didn't see my name on the poll and thought I was dead. But I'm alive right? That was a bit of a scary moment, or as my three year old says "Skearey!".

I'm not sure who I'll be looking at today yet. This game is hard.

Epignosis wrote:

Long Con wrote:Black Rock is highly unlikely to be back in time to change her vote, if that's even something she might want to do. It's just very close, maybe she thinks Lorab is Civvier than SD or something. Moot point though - she's at the grocery store. :lol:

My God, man, don't you all have servants for that sort of thing?

I wish, my house would be cleaner.

Crappy lynch switch, I don't blame the switcher for choosing him though. I also wouldn't say LoRab is not the switcher. She's the type to play it safe and just say switch it. She wouldn't want to screw around with her life.

Epignosis wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Long Con, AtE = Appeal to Emotion

How long does it take for a married couple to become very alike?

Somewhere between on your wedding day and the bold eternal day?

A reference about only a dozen people on the planet will get.

I assume it's this?

Epignosis wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Where do you stand with MM Epig? I didn't really understand what your conclusion was.

If people wanted to lynch MM at this stage, they're not going to get any mileage out of his posts- there's a relatively high number of posts, but they've all been, as it were, poking from the perimeter.

That's what I'm saying.

I just didn't understand the point of that post without saying where you stood regarding MM. It seemed like you poking with a stick but nothing came of it.

I voted Sorsha, because why not? I suspect her just as much as I suspect the rest of you. I don't like the Daisy lynch. I think she's civ. She's sounding like one.

I'm honestly not convinced by any of the cases so Sorsha? Sure. Her name is right beside Daisy's, they're both ladies, I have played with them both for a long time. Almost the same. Daisy has a lot better content and sounds like she's trying to help. I haven't seen any of that from Sorsha so there is where my preference is.

I might switch my vote to something better. I'm just not going to vote for Daisy.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Scotty wrote:Why is MM still voting for himself? Like, I know why he said he is voting for himself, but why is he still drawing on himself with a sharpie in the mirror?

I'm not sure. I did it for the lulz, and I guess it's still there.

Who do you suspect?

Where do you stand with MM Epig? I didn't really understand what your conclusion was.

Alright I missed the end of the lynch and apparently a whole entire night went by. It was a beautiful weekend and I spent it working. I was going to vote and was reading over everything Saturday when I got called in early and I've only just sat down (except for sleeping last night). I was undecided when I left and I have not caught up yet.

Spacedaisy wrote:I'm at work so let me keep my explanation quick. Matt is low engagement right now, but he has not been replaced. I think a person who believes they might not have time is more likely to hang in there longer if they are a civ, because they don't have teammates they know they are letting down. Civs don't know who their teammates are so they are less likely to feel the pressure of helping their team. That was a very fast replacement and she didn't say anything about getting a replacement in her post that I recall. Most civs announce they are going to ask for one.

That is a very good point.

Epignosis. Your leading theory heading into the night was that I was bad and was LC's baddie teammate. After the night you state that I'm off the table, which I imagine is due to that post. You're still voting for LC, which you state has nothing to do with that post. Do you still believe I'm LC's teammate or do you now believe me to be civ? I now realize I might have missed this in my catch up as my daughter was talking to me and I do believe I was looking at her as I was scrolling.

To answer your question. I am currently on the fence with LC. I'm not sure if he's up to no good or I'm taking some of his statements personally. For instance the new one I quoted. Sometimes it's complicated playing with a husband. I'm not ruling out I will vote for today. Somehow he's gotten under my skin early this game, where as I usually ignore him in early game.

Long Con wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I would like to know how serious Black Rock was about lynching Long Con Day 1, and how interested she is about doing so now, if at all.

I want to know this too. Where is black rock?

She does need to get back in here and put the time in. Lynching me would be lame, but I do think she should play. As far as I know, she's been making sure to vote and use night actions (assuming she has any ) and has been keeping up, but she has also been busy.

Oh my dude. You're just something this game.